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ThreeBays says

porkchopexpress says

Is that the bullshit relative risk reduction statistic, or absolute risk reduction?

Relative risk

Figures

This is scary:
https://needtoknow.news/2021/04/document-shows-pfizer-anticipated-that-those-injected-with-mrna-might-transmit-infection-to-those-who-are-non-injected/

A document published by Pfizer during trials of their COVID-19 mRNA shots appears to warn participants against contact with those who are not part of the trial, including pregnant women. It defines SAE (Serious Adverse Event) as an adverse event in someone who received the shot, had skin contact with the contents of the shot, inhaled it, or someone who was exposed to someone who received the mRNA shot. The document lists ‘abnormal pregnancy outcomes’ such as ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion, intrauterine fetal demise, neonatal death, and congenital anomaly as SAEs. It then says that exposure during breastfeeding can occur through inhalation or skin contact. The paper instructs investigators to “report exposure during breastfeeding to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of the investigator’s awareness, irrespective of whether an SAE has occurred.” -GEG
CORRECTION: We previously referred to SAE as a ‘Secondary Adverse Event’, but Pfizer’s Vaccine Protocol paper defines is as a ‘Serious Adverse Event’. The document still shows that Pfizer knew that direct exposure through the vaccine, called ‘intervention’, exposure of the skin to the contents of the injection, inhalation of the contents, and even contact with a person who received the injection could lead to adverse events, which is significant.

From my understanding the potential of shedding is near zero but if you wanted it to be practically zero you'd want to avoid close contact with a freshly vaccinated person for 24-72 hours. Just don't get vaccinated and don't have your wife/husband/gf/bf or real doll get vaccinated.

ThreeBays says

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an inflammatory dis-information

That makes sense.

Onvacation says

ThreeBays says

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an inflammatory dis-information

That makes sense.

ThreeBays says

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an inflammatory dis-information piece!

Is it? Do you have a source?

porkchopexpress says

Is it? Do you have a source?

Probably not.

The reality is I don't trust my government in the first place. The fact it's not even FDA approved allows me to deny getting vaccinated. And even then I'd wait another year or two after or if it even gets approved. I'll take my risk with getting Covid over a super new vaccine at my age and health.

The funny part is when the FDA doesn't approve the original formulas for the major vaccines for Covid. I could totally see that happening. I don't care if anyone got it, just don't think it was a good decision. There's a reason these things take years and not months. Factor in the time of when it "escaped" and the host country barely had anyone die, with a super high smoking rate seems like complete BS.

China has the 2nd number of domestic flights (traveling within China). No chance it didn't spread to other major Chinese cities. Yet somehow NY has more death than a country of 1.4B people. If that's not odd to you, you're not thinking. Wuhan is the size of NYC let alone the state. The math most certainly doesn't add up with all this.

WookieMan says

The math most certainly doesn't add up with all this.

Right, it never did add up.

"Soon, there will be only 99.7% of us left." as the cartoon says.

And yet there are 50 new "vaccine" billionaires, per Forbes.

And Ivermectin works even better than HCQ, but you're not allowed to have it because then you might cut into vaccine profits.

Patrick says

And yet there are 50 new "vaccine" billionaires, per Forbes.

Their vaccines don't even work. You can still spread it and can still get covid and potentially die from it. You can die from the vaccine itself. What is the net benefit? They keep saying it's 99% effective, but you are 99% unlikely to die if you get Covid. There's no point in getting these vaccines that aren't FDA approved and nobody on the planet understands any possible long term effects 2-5+ years down the road.

The data is provided, the media reports the complete opposite and people just eat the shit up. Why? What's wrong with saying Covid is a joke and we massively overreacted as a society. Shit the entire world. This is indisputable. IL is for the most part is back to full open besides Chicago, though I just saw clips of a recent Cubs game looking pretty packed.

This was all a joke and con to get Trump out. Pretty much 100% convinced at this point. People will argue why the whole world shut down. They were in on it. Maybe a dozen foreign leaders liked Trump. The world wanted him gone because they knew an America first position would fuck their GDP long term. So they took a short term hit to get an American globalist back in office.

WookieMan says

nobody on the planet understands any possible long term effects 2-5+ years down the road

I do.

Let me start w/ the following ...

Autoimmune disorder
Pulmonary dysfunction
Heart disease
Renal problems
etc

And yes, as a net result, the death toll will be a thousand percent of the death tolls due to Covid from 2020 to 2021.

WookieMan says

This was all a joke and con to get Trump out. Pretty much 100% convinced at this point.

I think we're going to find out that Covid is simply a small part of a long plan/game.

Rin says

And yes, as a net result, the death toll will be a thousand percent of the death tolls due to Covid from 2020 to 2021.

It depends on how you count them.

After all, they were going to die anyway.

Rin says

the death toll will be a thousand percent of the death tolls due to Covid from 2020 to 2021.

That would only be 5 million. I fear you underestimate the damage this experimental biologic agent will do.

Rin says

And yes, as a net result, the death toll will be a thousand percent of the death tolls due to Covid from 2020 to 2021.

Could be. I just don't understand if you're healthy and under 50 the purpose of taking it. For me it's more about the mindset of the people that take it. That bothers me the most. They just don't question anything because they're told to trust it. It's fucking weird. Cases and deaths are publicly available to view. 2/3rds of the population won't die from covid without a serious comorbidity or more at all, 0%. Yet there is a chance they could die from the vax or have complications. It's not logical.

Rin says

WookieMan says

nobody on the planet understands any possible long term effects 2-5+ years down the road

I do.

Let me start w/ the following ...

Autoimmune disorder
Pulmonary dysfunction
Heart disease
Renal problems
etc

And yes, as a net result, the death toll will be a thousand percent of the death tolls due to Covid from 2020 to 2021.

3.5 million have died of Covid...supposedly. You're saying 35 million will die of the Vax? IF so, that 35 million will be easily hidden from view/knowledge.

Onvacation says

I fear you underestimate the damage this experimental biologic agent will do.

I suspect that you're right.

WookieMan says

They just don't question anything because they're told to trust it. It's fucking weird. Cases and deaths are publicly available to view. 2/3rds of the population won't die from covid without a serious comorbidity or more at all, 0%. Yet there is a chance they could die from the vax or have complications. It's not logical.

In a word ... Society's Bitch!

When "Society" says jump, their response is "How High?"

When the WineHorror1 says

You're saying 35 million will die of the Vax? IF so, that 35 million will be easily hidden from view/knowledge.

It will be blamed on a new variant.

They were going to die anyway.

WookieMan says

This was all a joke and con to get Trump out.

It was certainly a con to get Trump out, but also a very profitable con for certain people (though devastating for the middle class, especially small shop and restaurant owners).

Win-win, from the point of view of Gates and Bezos. Got Trump out so the half-trillion in annual Chinese imports is unimpeded, and they got much much richer too!

Someday the people are going to hang them for this. But Fauci should go first, as the actual funder and inventor of the virus.

Great interview with Dr. McCullough on how he went from pro-covid-vaxx to anti.

https://thehighwire.com/videos/pro-vax-doc-i-can-no-longer-recommend-the-vaccine-to-any-individual/

One of my doofus brother in laws got vaxxed. Whole family told him not to, but his doctor pressured him into it. He couldn't get out of bed for three days after the first jab. He said all muscles and joints hurt, hurt, hurt. We'll see if he becomes road kill, or is even as foolish as to the second jab.

Ceffer says

One of my doofus brother in laws got vaxxed. Whole family told him not to, but his doctor pressured him into it. He couldn't get out of bed for three days after the first jab. He said all muscles and joints hurt, hurt, hurt. We'll see if he becomes road kill, or is even as foolish as to the second jab.

It's sad but sometimes it takes making life-altering mistakes to learn a life-altering lesson, which is doing our own objective analysis and thinking for ourselves.

https://welovetrump.com/2021/06/01/17-year-old-left-gasping-for-air-and-sent-to-the-hospital-with-myocarditis-after-2nd-dose-of-pfizer-experimental-jab/

Leftoids who made these murderers and vaxxine sheisters their gods are so gullible. There was a recently recorded dateline where some sinus doc with "highest credentials" never examined his patients and did needless surgery on most of them, missing and not caring about life threatening illnesses those patients had and instead made their lives worse. He effectively killed a few and eventually got off with a few years in prison. If you think just because somebody works as an MD or in the government that they are always looking out for you need a serious reality check.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/west-virginia-giving-away-custom-guns-1-million-as-covid-19-vaccination-incentives_3839481.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

West Virginia Giving Away Custom Guns, $1 Million as Fauci-Virus Vaccination Incentives

I noticed something interesting - the Biden administration has several times stated they are targeting a 70% vaccination rate.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/70-covid-vaccination-rate-may-be-in-reach-new-u-s-poll-suggests/

And Deagal, bizarrely, has been predicting a US population of 100 million people by 2025.

https://archive.is/khZon

And the (current) population of the United States is about 330 million people:

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

So, if 70% of the population is vaccinated that means 30% won't be. The works out to 0.3 * 330 = 100 million people that are expected not to be vaccinated in the United States.

Interesting coincidence.

Hmmm.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1399848692866236419#m

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
Jun 1
Meanwhile, the evidence that the mRNA vaccines cause myocarditis keeps piling up. Israel reported today that the risk is 1 in 3000 to 1 in 6000 for young men. By way of comparison, the death risk of #Covid for healthy people under 25 is essentially too low to measure accurately.
10:01 PM · Jun 1, 2021

richwicks says

I noticed something interesting - the Biden administration has several times stated they are targeting a 70% vaccination rate.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/70-covid-vaccination-rate-may-be-in-reach-new-u-s-poll-suggests/

And Deagal, bizarrely, has been predicting a US population of 100 million people by 2025.

https://archive.is/khZon

And the (current) population of the United States is about 330 million people:

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

So, if 70% of the population is vaccinated that means 30% won't be. The works out to 0.3 * 330 = 100 million people that ...

Then I should wait to buy the retirement home, since it should be much cheaper then!

richwicks says

I noticed something interesting - the Biden administration has several times stated they are targeting a 70% vaccination rate.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/70-covid-vaccination-rate-may-be-in-reach-new-u-s-poll-suggests/

And Deagal, bizarrely, has been predicting a US population of 100 million people by 2025.

https://archive.is/khZon

And the (current) population of the United States is about 330 million people:

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

So, if 70% of the population is vaccinated that means 30% won't be. The works out to 0.3 * 330 = 100 million people that ...

Thanks for bringing that to the forum. I have seen that as well and often wondered the same thing.

Who is Deagal though????

This topic pisses me off, so I post too much on it and mostly redundant comments, sorry. If you're healthy and not popping pills for ailments and not fat, covid statistically cannot and won't kill you. Even at age 70. So there's ZERO point in taking this shit if you check those boxes.

I continue successfully to keep the wife back from taking it. She runs at least 20 miles a week and works out. I tell her, Covid can't kill you. It literally cannot kill you. We're under 40 and healthy. We'd be a massive statistical anomaly to pass from Covid. We'd win the big boy lottery games first before dying from Covid. I'll pass on the vax.

I dont care much if someone gets vaxxed or not. Your body, your choice.

As for me, I feel better after getting the J&J.....I hate getting sick (the flu etc.) Getting Covid doesnt sound fun either. Covid wouldnt kill me but I like to believe the vaccine will mitigate covid symptoms if I catch it or I wont catch it at all. I had severe side effects the night after getting the vaccine. Since then I am fine. Not even herpes. No dementia either.

Just mail me the vaccine and vaccination passport like a ballot, Trust me, I'll take it. Now you don't trust me? WTF.

https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

is a rich entrepreneur, scientific mind, and founder of the Covid Early Treatment Fund (CETF). He's pro-vaxx and had the Moderna vaccine a while back. Here's an article he wrote that's quite detailed about the current vaccines, which he now says people shouldn't get, and the prospects of future vaccines.

Bitcoin says

I dont care much if someone gets vaxxed or not. Your body, your choice.

Agreed.

Bitcoin says

As for me, I feel better after getting the J&J

Bitcoin says

I had severe side effects the night after getting the vaccine.

Don't know your age, but you likely would have had no symptoms or the minor ones like no smell and sinus infection if you got covid if you're under 50. If you trust the vaccine, that assumes trust in government. Our own government doesn't trust any of the vaccines via the FDA which is flawed itself. You're free to take it, but I won't agree it was the right decision.

You're free to do what you want. Heroin makes you feel good, go ahead and do it. It can also kill you. We have almost zero scientific evidence that these vaccines do shit. People could start dropping dead a year from now. You don't know, no one does. It hasn't been researched enough.

ThreeBays says

Rightists love spreading FUD about vaccines mainly because they don't want to see a success from what they've been opposing for over a year. It's OK, millions of patriots have already had their jabs so the economy will get back to normal soon. You're welcome.

It has been normal where I'm at since May of '20. And multiple places I've visited. Not sure what you're talking about.

I know about more severe side effect from the vaccine from people I know, then bad side effects from Covid itself from the 30+ I know that got it. But that doesn't matter supposedly. Just anecdotal. Keep reading the script. This movie won't get better though until you stop believing the lie.

WookieMan says

It can also kill you. We have almost zero scientific evidence that these vaccines do shit. People could start dropping dead a year from now. You don't know, no one does.

yep, i have no idea. I only know i didnt even get herpes yet. But I will continue to report out if something changes. If I stop posting for a long time its either i died from the J&J shot or that Bitcoin and my shitcoins went to zero.

ThreeBays says

Normal all the time? WTF? We're still 7+ million employed short than pre-pandemic. That's what I'm talking about.

Because people don't want to work and Biden AND Trump made that possible on shit advice from piece of shit Fauci and Birx at the time. And when I say normal, no mask, restaurants open, etc. I don't know a single person laid off from covid. Not one. So pretty normal in my world.

ThreeBays says

What severe side effects do you know about worse than a temporary fever / weakness?

Severe versus none from covid itself. Severe could be what you're talking about. Fever and weakness. All but one I know of just lost their smell/tastes and didn't even know they had it. A fever and weakness from a vaccine is worse than the actual virus it's supposed to protect against.

Mind you I'm younger and all the people I know were 25-50ish. Anyone tested positive had no symptoms besides smell and maybe a minor sinus infection worst case. One guy felt it was rough enough to go to urgent care and was told to rest and hydrate after being found positive, he was also a heavy pot smoker and withdrawal is now a thing with pot and higher THC levels.

You're being sold a lie. I know too many people and there's no benefit to me by making shit up. You don't have to believe it. But everyone I know has been down for 3-4 days after taking the vax, including my own sister. We have two friends that have legit ghosted us since taking it over a month now and we'd usually hang out every weekend. This vax isn't a joke. You can take it, but I won't. And I won't be restricted by movement about because I don't want to take it. You'll be met with a lawsuit right away.

WookieMan says

And I won't be restricted by movement about because I don't want to take it. You'll be met with a lawsuit right away.

I think lawsuits are the right way to go with this stuff.

ThreeBays says

Normal all the time? WTF? We're still 7+ million employed short than pre-pandemic. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah but that wasn't covids fault.

mell says

ThreeBays says

Normal all the time? WTF? We're still 7+ million employed short than pre-pandemic. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah but that wasn't covids fault.

Yeah, mostly certain states. If people don't leave the basement they'd never know that flyover country has been living normal during most of this. No mask mandates and places like restaurants open. My kids did baseball last summer. Basketball over winter. Not much changed here outside of the first month or two. Some mask wearing "guidelines" no one followed, but pretty normal outside of that. Just a bunch of fear mongering over the common cold basically.