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This topic pisses me off, so I post too much on it and mostly redundant comments, sorry. If you're healthy and not popping pills for ailments and not fat, covid statistically cannot and won't kill you. Even at age 70. So there's ZERO point in taking this shit if you check those boxes.

I continue successfully to keep the wife back from taking it. She runs at least 20 miles a week and works out. I tell her, Covid can't kill you. It literally cannot kill you. We're under 40 and healthy. We'd be a massive statistical anomaly to pass from Covid. We'd win the big boy lottery games first before dying from Covid. I'll pass on the vax.

I dont care much if someone gets vaxxed or not. Your body, your choice.

As for me, I feel better after getting the J&J.....I hate getting sick (the flu etc.) Getting Covid doesnt sound fun either. Covid wouldnt kill me but I like to believe the vaccine will mitigate covid symptoms if I catch it or I wont catch it at all. I had severe side effects the night after getting the vaccine. Since then I am fine. Not even herpes. No dementia either.

Just mail me the vaccine and vaccination passport like a ballot, Trust me, I'll take it. Now you don't trust me? WTF.

https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

is a rich entrepreneur, scientific mind, and founder of the Covid Early Treatment Fund (CETF). He's pro-vaxx and had the Moderna vaccine a while back. Here's an article he wrote that's quite detailed about the current vaccines, which he now says people shouldn't get, and the prospects of future vaccines.

Bitcoin says

I dont care much if someone gets vaxxed or not. Your body, your choice.

Agreed.

Bitcoin says

As for me, I feel better after getting the J&J

Bitcoin says

I had severe side effects the night after getting the vaccine.

Don't know your age, but you likely would have had no symptoms or the minor ones like no smell and sinus infection if you got covid if you're under 50. If you trust the vaccine, that assumes trust in government. Our own government doesn't trust any of the vaccines via the FDA which is flawed itself. You're free to take it, but I won't agree it was the right decision.

You're free to do what you want. Heroin makes you feel good, go ahead and do it. It can also kill you. We have almost zero scientific evidence that these vaccines do shit. People could start dropping dead a year from now. You don't know, no one does. It hasn't been researched enough.

ThreeBays says

Rightists love spreading FUD about vaccines mainly because they don't want to see a success from what they've been opposing for over a year. It's OK, millions of patriots have already had their jabs so the economy will get back to normal soon. You're welcome.

It has been normal where I'm at since May of '20. And multiple places I've visited. Not sure what you're talking about.

I know about more severe side effect from the vaccine from people I know, then bad side effects from Covid itself from the 30+ I know that got it. But that doesn't matter supposedly. Just anecdotal. Keep reading the script. This movie won't get better though until you stop believing the lie.

WookieMan says

It can also kill you. We have almost zero scientific evidence that these vaccines do shit. People could start dropping dead a year from now. You don't know, no one does.

yep, i have no idea. I only know i didnt even get herpes yet. But I will continue to report out if something changes. If I stop posting for a long time its either i died from the J&J shot or that Bitcoin and my shitcoins went to zero.

ThreeBays says

Normal all the time? WTF? We're still 7+ million employed short than pre-pandemic. That's what I'm talking about.

Because people don't want to work and Biden AND Trump made that possible on shit advice from piece of shit Fauci and Birx at the time. And when I say normal, no mask, restaurants open, etc. I don't know a single person laid off from covid. Not one. So pretty normal in my world.

ThreeBays says

What severe side effects do you know about worse than a temporary fever / weakness?

Severe versus none from covid itself. Severe could be what you're talking about. Fever and weakness. All but one I know of just lost their smell/tastes and didn't even know they had it. A fever and weakness from a vaccine is worse than the actual virus it's supposed to protect against.

Mind you I'm younger and all the people I know were 25-50ish. Anyone tested positive had no symptoms besides smell and maybe a minor sinus infection worst case. One guy felt it was rough enough to go to urgent care and was told to rest and hydrate after being found positive, he was also a heavy pot smoker and withdrawal is now a thing with pot and higher THC levels.

You're being sold a lie. I know too many people and there's no benefit to me by making shit up. You don't have to believe it. But everyone I know has been down for 3-4 days after taking the vax, including my own sister. We have two friends that have legit ghosted us since taking it over a month now and we'd usually hang out every weekend. This vax isn't a joke. You can take it, but I won't. And I won't be restricted by movement about because I don't want to take it. You'll be met with a lawsuit right away.

WookieMan says

And I won't be restricted by movement about because I don't want to take it. You'll be met with a lawsuit right away.

I think lawsuits are the right way to go with this stuff.

ThreeBays says

Normal all the time? WTF? We're still 7+ million employed short than pre-pandemic. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah but that wasn't covids fault.

mell says

ThreeBays says

Normal all the time? WTF? We're still 7+ million employed short than pre-pandemic. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah but that wasn't covids fault.

Yeah, mostly certain states. If people don't leave the basement they'd never know that flyover country has been living normal during most of this. No mask mandates and places like restaurants open. My kids did baseball last summer. Basketball over winter. Not much changed here outside of the first month or two. Some mask wearing "guidelines" no one followed, but pretty normal outside of that. Just a bunch of fear mongering over the common cold basically.

The only odd ball thing for us was remote learning. Otherwise 85-90% normal. Back to 100% normal in my community at this point.

WookieMan says

Back to 100% normal in my community at this point.

Saying anything is 'back to normal' would be a stretch in California even without Covid.

https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/06/california-health-department-admits-mrna-covid-19-injections-cause-serious-heart-conditions

California Health Department admits mRNA COVID-19 injections cause serious heart conditions

ThreeBays says

Normal all the time? WTF? We're still 7+ million employed short than pre-pandemic. That's what I'm talking about.

Why did you vote for Biden?

Before the globalists in the name of democratic socialism defrauded the world with the Fauci flu fraud America, and thus the world, was doing well.

Glad to see the jab didn't kill you yet.

Ceffer says

WookieMan says

Back to 100% normal in my community at this point.

Saying anything is 'back to normal' would be a stretch in California even without Covid.

California has been the cure to normal for centuries!

joshuatrio says

Thanks for bringing that to the forum. I have seen that as well and often wondered the same thing.

Who is Deagal though????

SUPPOSEDLY a respected military site of some sort.

Or it's just CIA bullshit propaganda. That's just as possible.

I just find it interesting, and look at everything with a grain of salt. I first saw it mentioned on www.lewrockwell.com some time back, and I pretty much read everything, put it into my box of "that's an interesting conspiracy theory!" and find out later if it was correct or not.

The government, INCLUDING THE MILITARY, absolutely cannot be trusted but it would sure be funny if they were telling the truth for once. We'll find out in 4 years.

The most likely scenario to me is that IF the government were to intentionally kill off a large section of the population, they would release an actually deadly pathogen that has an effective vaccine, that would confer immunity. In the last 20 years, they are definitely trying to create more sheep than they are independent skeptical thinkers.

Still, it's "the sheep" which are the "useless eaters".

https://reclaimthenet.org/twitter-censors-and-locks-out-mrna-expert/

Twitter censors and locks out mRNA expert

Twitter's battle against "misinformation" is making constant mistakes. ...

Twitter deleted a tweet by a pioneer of mRNA technology about viral shedding, a concept referring to the process of the body releasing viral particles due to a vaccine and potentially causing a risk of infection to others. The platform did not provide a reason for deleting the tweet and restricting the mRNA technology expert. ...

Twitter’s move to delete his tweet is bold and another example of how social media companies are getting it wrong in the fight against misinformation, especially on debated science.

Luigi did appeal Twitter’s decision. But until Twitter reviews the appeal, he will remain locked out of his account. In his appeal he pointed out that he was “the inventor of the technology on which Moderna was founded,” suggesting he knows the science.

Patrick says

https://reclaimthenet.org/twitter-censors-and-locks-out-mrna-expert/

Twitter censors and locks out mRNA expert

Twitter's battle against "misinformation" is making constant mistakes. ...

Oh Patrick, you know as well as I do they aren't making "mistakes".

The reason these companies were created is that if people knew just how absolutely criminal their rulers were, there'd be a revolution the next day. These megalith companies were created specifically to prevent that revolution or at least stave it off for a bit.

FROM BROKE TO MULTI-MILLIONAIREI N JUST 7 YEARS BY PETER SPANN


Peter Spann is (was) a famous Australian film maker, property investor and writer.

He was boasting about getting his first jab on Twitter.

"Well for better or worse I got my first jab today!"

Shortly later he was complaining about health issues.

"Headache and fever today - got worse this afternoon. It's so annoying - I almost never get headaches. Can't think straight."

And now he's dead.

Onvacation says

Peter Spann is (was) a famous Australian film maker, property investor and writer.

Rags to riches to vaccine road kill. Karma is a bitch.

Onvacation says

FROM BROKE TO MULTI-MILLIONAIREI N JUST 7 YEARS BY PETER SPANN


Peter Spann is (was) a famous Australian film maker, property investor and writer.

He was boasting about getting his first jab on Twitter.

"Well for better or worse I got my first jab today!"

Shortly later he was complaining about health issues.

"Headache and fever today - got worse this afternoon. It's so annoying - I almost never get headaches. Can't think straight."

And now he's dead.

Here's a question - how many famous (and semi-famous) people died of sars-cov2-19?

I know of just 1 - Herman Cain, and he had stage 4 colon cancer, in 2006. We hear about a lot of people dying just after a vaccine - but you have to be careful - this is anecdotal evidence. However, our "news" media has been promoting the dangers of this disease and underplaying the dangers of the vaccination - seemingly.

I think most young people are not in immediate danger from these "vaccines", but I can't predict their long term health.

Sure is entertaining though. I'm sick of being angry about people's gullibility and obliviousness. The time for revolt was at least 2 decades ago. We should have collectively strung up George W. Bush and most of his administration for lying us into a fucking war who had a grandfather that was doing banking for the goddamned Nazis.

If that had been done, we wouldn't have had Obama. The more we allow these fucks get away with shit, the more shit they do.

I'm satisfied with being an observer. If I was alive during the French revolution, I would have kept a low profile and giggled from before and after it.

richwicks says

Here's a question - how many famous (and semi-famous) people died of sars-cov2-19?

Hmm, the Oracle VP and Peter Spann and Willie Mays (OK, he was old, but maybe the "vaccine" bumped him off the edge).

How many famous and semi-famous people died of the vaccine? I bet it's a lot more than died of Fauci Flu.

ThreeBays says

It depends if you've read the Fauci emails, or the Faux news interpretation.

Are you ever going to tell us why you voted for Biden?

Did anyone notice who live in Santa Clara county that the employer is required to collect and notify county about every employee vaccinated status.

From what I've read, Fauci was pushing back on Trump rushing these vaccines. What if the TPTB knew the vaccines would be a disaster and let Trump (knowing he always wants to win) rush them through while knowing they'd ultimately kill a significant portion of the population? This will reflect poorly on Trump and the MAGA effort. To this day, Trump is pushing these vaccines.

Hard to parse the smokes screens of motivation and marching orders. Maybe the Globalists didn't even know day to day how to handle their cluster fuck.

Vaccine stuff is further muddied by the already existing 'anti-vax and holostic medicine' lobbies who jumped in with both feet to fan the flames of anti vaccination fervor and paranoia. I am not 'anti vax' on principle. I am anti-terrorism under cover of medical nazi-ism.

Trump's position is also hard to fathom. He is not a medical person, but it seems that he was at least as concerned about quenching the 'epidemic of fear' once it had been established successfully, since he knew from the outset that the whole Covid thing was a psyops. Beyond a certain point, calling it a psyops just wasn't going to work any more.

I think he prioritized giving people an anti-fear totem/antidote to counter all of the propagandized lies, disinformation and fake statistics and testing around Covid. If there was a 'vaccine', the Faucis and Globalists would have trouble continuing to promulgate into perpetuity the theme that political oppression would be ongoing for years around Covid.

I don't think the "vaccine" were rushed at all, as it was in development to be the "antidote" to the virus from beginning. I think the virus was created to sell the "vaccine".

Thus the "vaccine" looks like it was developed quickly, but in reality was there from the beginning - even though it doesn't work very well and kills more people than it saves.

I do worry that Trump was in on the whole scam somehow, after it "escaped" from the lab - but not before. Maybe he didn't know all the details, but I'd bet that Fauci did.

And now that I hear that the PENTAGON was also funding Fauci's boy Peter Daszak in Wuhan, I think that basically the whole US and CCP governments are implicated in creating the virus. Now how the fuck is that going to play out? Is the Pentagon going to incriminate itself? I don't think so.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9653363/Dr-Peter-Daszak-spotted-outside-million-dollar-home-upstate-New-York.html

Federal data seen reveals the Pentagon gave $39 million to EcoHealth Alliance between 2013 and 2020

It wasn't the 'vaccine for Covid' that mattered to the Globalists. It was getting the population passively accustomed to frequent biologic invasions with any agents that the authoritarian regimes wished to inflict on their bodies under color of beneficent medicine. That, of course, would be more advanced eugenics, genetic experimentation, monitoring swarms, population control etc. etc. that would have nothing to do with reducing disease. More like 'human reduction' rather than 'disease reduction'.

Sometimes I feel like Cipher and want to take the blue pill :/

Patrick says

I don't think the "vaccine" were rushed at all, as it was in development to be the "antidote" to the virus from beginning. I think the virus was created to sell the "vaccine".

Thus the "vaccine" looks like it was developed quickly, but in reality was there from the beginning - even though it doesn't work very well and kills more people than it saves.

I do worry that Trump was in on the whole scam somehow, after it "escaped" from the lab - but not before. Maybe he didn't know all the details, but I'd bet that Fauci did.

And now that I hear that the PENTAGON was also funding Fauci's boy Peter Daszak in Wuhan, I think that basically the whole US and CCP governments are implicated in creating the virus. Now how the fuck is that going to play out? Is the Pentagon going to incriminate itself? I don't think so.

And we thought 9/11 was a blockbuster. :)

Patrick says

I don't think the "vaccine" were rushed at all, as it was in development to be the "antidote" to the virus from beginning. I think the virus was created to sell the "vaccine".

Thus the "vaccine" looks like it was developed quickly, but in reality was there from the beginning - even though it doesn't work very well and kills more people than it saves.

I do worry that Trump was in on the whole scam somehow, after it "escaped" from the lab - but not before. Maybe he didn't know all the details, but I'd bet that Fauci did.

And now that I hear that the PENTAGON was also funding Fauci's boy Peter Daszak in Wuhan, I think that basically the whole US and CCP governments are implicated in creating the virus. Now how the fuck is that going to play out? Is the Pentagon going to incriminate itself? I don't think so.

Agreed, don't forget, Moderna, a previous utter failure since inception, suddenly making hay. 9 don't think the vaccines are hard-core killer machines, but harmful enough to cause all the immediate issues and deaths we have seen so far, and more issues down the road for many. This basically rescued some failed pharma cos, made a lot of globalist billionaires and many richer, and is free experimentation on the masses that would otherwise never have been granted.

DOCTOR CERTIFIES 'VACCINE' INJURY, CONFIRMS SERIOUS DIAGNOSIS AFTER JAB

Why do people feel compelled to take an experimental biologic agent?

Oh yeah, they want to go back to normal.

porkchopexpress says

Sometimes I feel like Cipher and want to take the blue pill :/

Take the White Pill. Be Cynical of Cynicism.

In C.S. Lewis' book "The Pilgrim's Regress", the main character is instantly whitepilled when he realizes the Spirit of the Age, and its many servants, are all lying to him, trying to convince him that milk and urine are basically the same thing: that both are just liquid secretions of a cow. But using reason, he replies "You lie. You do not distinguish between what nature has meant for nourishment and what nature has meant for garbage." And the spell of moral relativism and nihilism is broken.

Magnetic Personalities

Onvacation says

Why do people feel compelled to take an experimental biologic agent?

My neighbor is a teacher for "special needs kids" - she took it because it was a requirement to continue work.

She spent 1/2 hour complaining to me she feels queasy after he 2nd injection, 2 weeks ago.

I think that the "vaccines" are LARGELY placebos, but dangerous ones at that, that will do nothing, and in some cases kill their receiver.

It would be intensely interesting if they are actually deadly, and this is just an intelligence test. I know that it would be monstrous if the vaccines wipe out the receivers, but it would be interesting because I always assumed if there was to be a targeted kill-off, it would be the paranoids suspecting a targeted kill off, it would be a mindfuck if if it was the opposite, and we were living in a world where the most paranoid and suspicious were selected to survive.

It really would be the Marching Morons.

https://archive.org/details/01-the-marching-morons-13-feb-1999-3

Not that any of you will listen to that.

It would be devastating to me to see my extended family killed off - because they've all been vaccinated, but I will still have to laugh about it. I've whined and moaned that the US became a fascist society 20 years ago - would be funny if they are actually improving the race and they are nothing more than the ruthless, amoral, good guys.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Take the White Pill.

Thanks, I didn't know this term:

white pill
The complete opposite of the black pill. Whereas taking the black pill means that you have a pessimistic view about life and you feel like it's meaningless and it all leads to suffering, taking the white pill means that you start to actually see the world for what it is.

Yeah, there is a lot of suffering, yeah bad stuff will happen, but that's just a part of life. Taking the white pill means accepting these things and understanding that there is more to life than bad stuff.

richwicks says

It would be devastating to me to see my extended family killed off - because they've all been vaccinated, but I will still have to laugh about it. I've whined and moaned that the US became a fascist society 20 years ago - would be funny if they are actually improving the race and they are nothing more than the ruthless, amoral, good guys.

I feel the same way. I'm really worried about relatives that took the jab.

But It would be funny if it turns out that the intolerant leftists all basically killed themselves off with this to spite Trump.