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114019   Onvacation   2021 Jul 21, 7:53am  

Fallopia says

Trump was deeply unpopular towards the end of his term, and is even more unpopular now, outside of his shrinking base. Doubling down on a loser will simply lead to more losses.

Then how did he, Trump, get 10 million more votes in 2020 than 2016? Not expecting a cogent answer.

No "conservative" would ever vote for Biden so your story sounds fishy.
114020   Onvacation   2021 Jul 21, 7:56am  

Donald says
Arizona has voter ID yet that is the most audited state in the country right now. Why? I thought voter ID guarantees the election is legitimate. Republicans can't have it both ways.

So all of those mail in votes had their drivers license?

One person, one vote, one day. It's not that hard.

you can't have it both ways.
114021   mell   2021 Jul 21, 7:59am  

Donald says
Arizona has voter ID yet that is the most audited state in the country right now. Why? I thought voter ID guarantees the election is legitimate. Republicans can't have it both ways.


The iD is a precondition to check for fraud and successfully detect it, it doesn't make the election secure by magic but it equips you with the tools to detect it swiftly and accurately.
114022   WookieMan   2021 Jul 21, 8:17am  

Donald says
Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.

What was he supposed to do? Look like a dictator and bring in the military. He did what he could at the Federal level as much as he could. The states and cities that had issues failed epically. There's a reason we have state government. Government 101 type stuff. sheesh.
114023   mell   2021 Jul 21, 8:18am  

Donald says
Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.


I didn't like that he gave into the fauxci flu bs fear porn and started promoting the experimental biological agents, but still light-years better than any other candidate. So I did have leadership concerns but in the other direction. He should have dismissed all the fear porn and banned all (they're unconstitutional) lockdowns and mask mandates from the get go.
114024   WookieMan   2021 Jul 21, 8:26am  

I'd agree with mell too. Trump failed in that he gave a career political doctor most of the control for Covid. One that fucked up AIDS. Then Fauci flip flopped on everything and has recently been lying to Congressional committees. He will ultimately end up in jail in my opinion. Covid is unraveling so now there's the "Delta variant."

And this isn't conspiracy. This is what happened. Biden is mundane as fuck, but both Trump and Biden have/had utterly failed in not firing this clown. There's scientific evidence masks don't work. This whole thing has been botched and is still being botched. The vaccines are not totally effective and we have no evidence of long term outcomes for those vax'd.

I did pretty well under Trump. I'm now dealing with massive inflation on all fronts. Great. I know he doesn't do everything, but the optics so far with Biden are a failure out the gate. And just because I'll make more this year, doesn't mean that I net more. Inflation is a bitch.
114025   mell   2021 Jul 21, 8:29am  

Donald says
If the 2020 election was fraudulent, then how do we know the 2016 election was legitimate? How do we really know Trump won? Not a single state was audited.


In 2016 there were no irregularities to begin with, such as highest voter turnout for a vegetable, 3 am votes dump after telling everybody at 10 pm votes won't be counted until 7 am, massive mail in ballot (fraud) which didn't exist in 2016 since people couldn't just send in random ballots. Easy.

Fallopia says
Donald says
Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.


Trump's base like his leadership style. They like rancor and divisiveness. They think good leadership is "owning the libs".

Most Americans don't like this and turned away from Trump. Furthermore, Trump's base is a shrinking fraction of the classical Republican base, and most old-school Conservatives such as myself were horrified by his schismatic actions, fiscal recklessness, and utter lack of principle.


While most of this is touchy feely unimportant stuff I agree to a certain extent on the fiscal recklessness, but that's just what every one did before him and is now being done times 10 by xiden, so no reason to change the vote, unless you want 10 times the recklessness.
114026   RWSGFY   2021 Jul 21, 8:30am  

Fallopia says
Why not audit Tennessee and Alabama?


Go ahead, what's holding you back?
114027   Michael Cooke   2021 Jul 21, 8:34am  

Pure MSM propaganda.

I was watching the election results between 2:00-3:00am. I watched as Biden surged ahead in 5 key states. Nearly every vote was counted for Biden. What are the statistical 'gambling odds' of this occurring in 1 battleground state, let alone 5? Probably similar to winning 1 million dollars in 5 different casinos on the same night. Or pulling 5 slot machine jackpots in a row. It's beyond obvious any such gambler has cheated.
114028   clambo   2021 Jul 21, 8:35am  

Trump did a great job but I guess he’s supposed to walk on water.

Trump organized the vaccine development, among other things that were going on at the same time as the bullshit pandemic.

Firing Fauci would not have accomplished anything, he would have gained martyr status and still be on TV.

Ignoring him was a better strategy, which I think Trump did.

The vast voter fraud happened, it’s not imaginary. Biden lost.
114029   mell   2021 Jul 21, 8:37am  

Fallopia says
mell says
I didn't like that he gave into the fauxci flu bs fear porn


Trump himself was infected by COVID, and became so ill that he was airlifted by helicopter to the hospital. While hospitalized he received a level of care that no ordinary American could have received, including special access to experimental treatments including Regeneron's monoclonal antibody treatment, Remdesivir, and a course of dexamethasone in conjunction with supplemental oxygen. This heroic treatment regimen almost certainly saved his life, whereas an ordinary Joe such as myself would have died.

After this experience he continued to put politics ahead of a national health crisis. This did not go unnoticed by the American electorate.


Every president gets airlifted immediately at onset of symptoms for which regular joe schmoe would be sent home by their MDs and told to chill with a pill. Remdesivir does jack shit (failed drug), even regeneron's stuff is just mildly effective, dexamethasone is widely availabe to everyone. He didn't get great care. The real issue is that simple effective meds like HCQ, Zinc + ionophore, Vit. D and most importantly Ivermectin existed long ago but have been purposely discredited or banned by the despotic charlatans to make the public suffer. There was no health crisis to begin with until leftoids outlawed the only effective treatments. Trump should have pushed back hard on this. Nothing to do with his brief covid stint.
114030   Bd6r   2021 Jul 21, 8:38am  

FuckCCP89 says
Go ahead, what's holding you back?

victim mentality
114031   mell   2021 Jul 21, 8:39am  

Michael Cooke says
Pure MSM propaganda.

I was watching the election results between 2:00-3:00am. I watched as Biden surged ahead in 5 key states. Nearly every vote was counted for Biden. What are the statistical 'gambling odds' of this occurring in 1 battleground state, let alone 5? Probably similar to winning 1 million dollars in 5 different casinos on the same night. Or pulling 5 slot machine jackpots in a row. It's beyond obvious any such gambler has cheated.


Yep, math just is. It doesn't lie. Everybody with basic knowledge of university grade statistics knows this, unfortunately not many do.
114032   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jul 21, 8:58am  

LOL Fallopia sounds like Joy Reid wishing things were like how she wishes shit would do.
114033   porkchopXpress   2021 Jul 21, 9:06am  

Fallopia says
porkchopexpress says
No you don't. Your post is gay.


My post is "gay"?

Not sure what to do with that. Could you elaborate?
It means your posts suck dick and take it up the ass.
114034   Onvacation   2021 Jul 21, 9:08am  

Fallopia says
most old-school Conservatives such as myself

Other than TDS, is there any reason you voted for Biden?
114035   Onvacation   2021 Jul 21, 9:09am  

WookieMan says
Then Fauci flip flopped on everything and has recently been lying to Congressional committees. He will ultimately end up in jail in my opinion.

The day after Hillary?
114036   WookieMan   2021 Jul 21, 9:37am  

Donald says
Well, Eisenhower sent in the military to de-segregate a high school and nobody thinks of him as a dictator today.

He shouldn't have. And yes it was a bad move. Simple things like taking away infrastructure funds for not raising the drinking age to 21 worked pretty effectively. All states still abide by it. Even though the Fed doesn't actually pull people over for drinking and driving.

Take away the states education funding and boom, segregation goes away. Military should have never been involved.

At the end of the day we need less government. If I don't like Indians or Asians, I should be allowed to stay with my like kind. Besides Europe, that's literally what the rest of the world is. Hell that's even the US. Every ethnicity has its own damn neighborhood. Slavery was bad, awful and disgusting. Hanging with people that look like you is pretty standard across the globe. I'll converse and be friendly with a black woman, but even if she has an attractive body/face I wouldn't have sex with her. It's a preference. I should be allowed to have that. At the pace we're going I'll be forced to have intercourse with her because I'm white.
114037   WookieMan   2021 Jul 21, 9:43am  

porkchopexpress says
Fallopia says
porkchopexpress says
No you don't. Your post is gay.


My post is "gay"?

Not sure what to do with that. Could you elaborate?
It means your posts suck dick and take it up the ass.

Lol, pork chop, your comments here remind me of my neighbor and make me think you are him. You'll be his doppelgänger if you use AIDS as an adjective. Like "Joe Biden is AIDS"
114039   fdhfoiehfeoi   2021 Jul 21, 9:53am  

Fallopia says
We have over 330,000,000 people in the US. In an election that large, there will always be "irregularities".


You mean cheating right? Because it is widely accepted, by just about everyone that a certain amount of cheating happens in every election. The difference this time is how blatant it was. The election commissions for several states failed to follow their state guidelines, and should have been disqualified, meaning throw out all the votes, or have a 3rd party audit the results.
114040   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jul 21, 9:54am  

That moment when you realize, Rand Paul is Agent Smith, and he's not going to let your crimes against humanity go unanswered.



114045   Patrick   2021 Jul 21, 9:57am  

Ah, so Fallopia is indeed a paid troll who was hired to cast doubt on the overwhelming and obvious evidence of election fraud.

I guessed right!

You can troll for a while @Fallopia, but not for very long. Sorry, it's my site, and your deliberate distortion of reality out of TDS is not worthy of respect by anyone.
114046   WookieMan   2021 Jul 21, 9:58am  

There are tells for when people are lying. Defiance is one of them. Paul has stayed calm in all his interactions. Fauci not so much. I think most here know it, but I don't think the average person knows Paul has a medical background. He's one of the few qualified to even talk to Fauci. Probably the reason Fauci gets so pissed when being questioned by him. Tells me he's a liar. Confidence and truth don't result in anger and outburst(y) type reactions.
114049   fdhfoiehfeoi   2021 Jul 21, 10:05am  

This is really simple. The state election commissions violated the voting laws of their states, which invalidates the results. If that's not addressed, who's to stop Trump from putting his people on the commissions next election, and rigging it for himself? What's to stop anyone with enough money and power from doing what was done in this election?

I don't give a fuck who won, because it doesn't matter. Nothing has, or will change because your false paradigm leader wins. But when cheating becomes this rampant, I get concerned, because of where such actions, unchecked, will logically lead us(dictatorship). And not the flimsy bullshit ones you anti-Trumpers and anti-Biden's want to whine about. Real, Chinese or Russian style dictatorships where they haul you away in the middle of the night.
114050   WookieMan   2021 Jul 21, 10:11am  

NuttBoxer says
Fallopia says
We have over 330,000,000 people in the US. In an election that large, there will always be "irregularities".


You mean cheating right? Because it is widely accepted, by just about everyone that a certain amount of cheating happens in every election. The difference this time is how blatant it was. The election commissions for several states failed to follow their state guidelines, and should have been disqualified, meaning throw out all the votes, or have a 3rd party audit the results.

Good luck. What is obvious to some is not to others.

I actually don't think anyone here has stated the election results should be overturned even if fraud is found. Could be wrong. Everyone is kind of accepting. The fact we get shit on by the occasional user though for questioning what's occurring is probably the most scary thing. It's as simple as questioning why your bank account has $9,789 in it after depositing $10,000. But hey, we're crazy right wing nut bags. Don't question that missing money.
114051   Onvacation   2021 Jul 21, 10:51am  

Patrick says
You can troll for a while @Fallopia, but not for very long. Sorry, it's my site, and your deliberate distortion of reality out of TDS is not worthy of respect by anyone.

It was kind of obvious when he said,
Fallopia says
As a lifelong Conservative who voted for Trump in 2016 and Biden in 2020
114052   HeadSet   2021 Jul 21, 11:26am  

WookieMan says
You'll be his doppelgänger if you use AIDS as an adjective. Like "Joe Biden is AIDS"

Actually, in that example, "Joe Biden is AIDS," the word AIDS is not an adjective. It is a noun. Gotta comply with the Patnet Style Guide.
114053   WookieMan   2021 Jul 21, 11:32am  

HeadSet says
WookieMan says
You'll be his doppelgänger if you use AIDS as an adjective. Like "Joe Biden is AIDS"

Actually, in that example, "Joe Biden is AIDS," the word AIDS is not an adjective. It is a noun. Gotta comply with the Patnet Style Guide.

You're right. I can write adequately, but I don't remember the terms all the time. Grammar is not my strong suite ;)
114054   Patrick   2021 Jul 21, 11:46am  

https://notthebee.com/article/disney-moves-more-than-2000-jobs-out-of-california-and-to-florida-citing-floridas-pro-business-policies

Disney Moves More Than 2,000 Jobs OUT Of California And TO Florida Citing Florida's Pro-Business Policies
114055   Bd6r   2021 Jul 21, 12:01pm  

Donald says
First, in the middle of the night, an appellate court reinstated the CDC''s ban on cruise ships that DeSantis recently got overturned in court.


The schedules have not changed: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/cruise-schedule

DeSantis continues WINNING!
114056   HeadSet   2021 Jul 21, 12:01pm  

Hey, just got a third "ignore" today.
114057   Patrick   2021 Jul 21, 12:04pm  

WookieMan says
Grammar is not my strong suite


Lol, nor spelling, but we are glad you are here. You make a lot of good points.
114058   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jul 21, 12:30pm  

Soros is a moron, China printed money and built Ghost Metropolitan Cities that could house 3 million people, and let them sit vacant and rot away.
This was going on, while the world was having the global financial collapse. Obama nor the Fed chiefs at the time, never said a word about it.
China has to keep building something, anything, it's the only way they can print money to appear solvent. The minute they run out of projects, and money to print for them. They will contract back to the Stone Ages.

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