patrick.net

https://twitter.com/chartsystems/status/1424376312139976707#m

I should have said, 'two major delta variants', there are clearly more if you look at nextstrain.

just_passing_through says

I realize you're just ignorant about all of this and not a kook but when people start straying off into the "it's not even real" territory they are heading off into kook land and will appear that way to the informed.

I grew up in Northern NY. I could buy Amish food at the grocery stores, and my parents had the Amish build their shed.

They are a population that refuses vaccination. They're a control group. They have a problem with interbreeding, but they don't have a problem with autism. It's been suspected that their refusal for vaccination is the cause, but they refuse a lot of medical care, and have different exposures to pollutants we are regularly subjected to.

There was a large drop in violent crime back in the 1990s. There were two hypotheses, one was that abortion was legalized in 1971. The other, was leaded gasoline was no longer permitted in new cars, by the mid 1970s.

https://archive.md/ThJcT

Coming Soon For The Unvaccinated: A $50 Monthly Paycheck Deduction From Your Employer

richwicks says

I grew up in Northern NY. I could buy Amish food at the grocery stores, and my parents had the Amish build their shed.

Thanks for the tip! Yeah I can shop at an Amish market.

My aunt/uncle in Nevada only eat meat that they've hunted for on their own. My uncle takes it to the Mennonites for processing. Something about they made a deal with god and won't steal the best cuts. Apparently they mix it with pork so it's not so dry.

I was just ribbing about the autism.

Booger says

richwicks says

I grew up in Northern NY. I could buy Amish food at the grocery stores, and my parents had the Amish build their shed.

Thanks for the tip! Yeah I can shop at an Amish market.

If you need a structure built, contract the Amish to do it.

Their food varies a bit. One time I got a block of cheese that tasted like a barn smelled, a dirty barn.

Booger says

https://archive.md/ThJcT

Coming Soon For The Unvaccinated: A $50 Monthly Paycheck Deduction From Your Employer

I think a nationwide strike is in order, coupled with protests.

I think there's a lot more people refusing this "vaccine" than our "news" media is telling us. Supposedly, there's a 70% vaccination rate. I believe it's closer to 30%.

https://dailystormer.su/cnn-jew-says-to-use-fear-of-job-loss-and-social-ostracization-to-manipulate-people-into-taking-the-vaxx

https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/08/08/majority-of-physicians-decline-covid-shots/

richwicks says

If you need a structure built, contract the Amish to do it.

Agreed. Some time ago I learned that the Amish often run quality businesses such as lumber mills, and building log cabins. Here's one I looked into:

https://meadowlarkloghomes.com

They have attractive pricing on log cabin kits, even if you have them deliver and/or assemble, and some of their larger designs look really impressive. I've always wanted a log cabin, and figure I'll buy an Amish kit home like one of these, let them assemble the shell and deal with the heavy logs, and I'll finish the inside myself.

This guy probably isn't a real Amish anymore, as he has lots of youtube videos and uses technology, which I think is generally shunned unless maybe he lives in a "progressive" community.

Patrick says

WineHorror1 says

just_passing_through would advocate for this to become a part of society forever. The stupid...it burns.

I don't see that he's recommending anything bad. He's not recommending the experimental jab, but instead a REAL vaccine, which I assume means the traditional kind which is bits of protein instead of bits of genetic material to hijack our bodies.

Did I misunderstand him? He is advocating a required vax at birth.

just_passing_through says

WineHorror1 says

Please state your credentials and tell us what a panel is.

I've was a molecular biologist in the 90s. Before the turn of the century I became a bioinformatics scientist (genetics scientist). In the early 2000s I worked for applied biosystems and although didn't invent PCR I worked on the RND team that brought about automated quantitative PCR which is what people have been using for the tests. Both algorithms and chemistry but not the firmware.

In 2007 I moved back to DNA sequencing which 'reads dna', and worked on the team that invented NGS DNA sequencing and they now own over 90% of the market. Around 2010 metagenomics (sequencing bugs you can't see or necessary culture) took off.

Thanks for answering. Now, please tell us why we should want humanity to add yet another vax (I've heard young children take as many as 70 vaxes now) to the vax schedule. Tell us why we should embrace this new vax tech. Science is becoming too powerful.

I definitely have a religious exemption. Man will destroy himself by playing God. As an example, what's going on with all the antibiotic resistant diseases?

Yes FB I know. But this image is real from my feed. These are the times we live. Wear a mask, vaccinated and you still get Covid. Then blame your kid. Could be a troll post, but I think it’s real based on the profile.

Holy crap!!!!

CDC NOW Admits NO 'Gold Standard' for the Isolation for ANY Virus!

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/cdc-now-admits-no-gold-standard-for-the-isolation-for-any-virus

This is damning.

WineHorror1 says

Did I misunderstand him? He is advocating a required vax at birth.

If he's saying it should be required then I am 100% opposed.

All real vaccines should be optional, and taken only after thoroughly informed consent.

Patrick says

All real vaccines should be optional, and taken only after thoroughly informed consent.

AND testing! Experimental biologic agents should not be rolled out to the public until they have been thoroughly and transparently tested.

just_passing_through says

@richwicks there are actually 2 Delta variants. The company I work for just made panels for both of them.

Are these sequences your panels test for patented?

How does a company decide which sequences to look for?

Is is possible that sequence could be found in other variations of SARS or other coronavirus like common cold?

Onvacation says

AND testing! Experimental biologic agents should not be rolled out to the public until they have been thoroughly and transparently tested.

And we need serious scientific studies of deaths from the clot shot, but these studies are blocked by Fauci, who is in control of funding.

https://youtu.be/auSox6ybZD8

Booger says

https://youtu.be/auSox6ybZD8

@Booger can you find that on Rumble, Bitchute, or Oddysee instead?

WineHorror1 says

Did I misunderstand him? He is advocating a required vax at birth.

I'm not advocating shit. That's just how things typically turn out for good reason, IF it's a good reason. HISTORICALLY. I realize we've had a BIG change lately. I wouldn't force anyone to do anything.

WineHorror1 says

Thanks for answering. Now, please tell us why we should want humanity to add yet another vax (I've heard young children take as many as 70 vaxes now) to the vax schedule. Tell us why we should embrace this new vax tech. Science is becoming too powerful.

I definitely have a religious exemption. Man will destroy himself by playing God. As an example, what's going on with all the antibiotic resistant diseases?

^-- That's a very good reason eh?

I'm not going to argue philosophy with you. If you think all vaxes are a bad idea fair enough. I don't. I haven't a clue if adding some vaccine for a future variant of covid will be a good idea or not. Just that we shouldn't be mass vaccinating people NOW with a god damn leaky vaccine.

PeopleUnited says

Are these sequences your panels test for patented?

No, of course not. You can't patent a sequence found in nature.

PeopleUnited says

How does a company decide which sequences to look for?

You're asking me to speak for companies? I don't know. The information is public so every place I've worked we pull down the public sequences and do our designs. Did you take a look at https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global ? That is one source. All ~30K letters in it's RNA genome are listed there for all 4,000 different versions of the virus we sequenced from start to end.

PeopleUnited says

Is is possible that sequence could be found in other variations of SARS or other coronavirus like common cold?

Sure. Of course. That's how evolution works. I can find virus sequences in my own genome because that's one of many ways we came to be. We have a LOT of viral DNA in the human genome. Read up on transposons if you're truly interested. I suspect you aren't and you're doing the typical Christian Science BS of trying to work an angle to argue with. The answer is hell fucking NO. We aren't mistaking this for other shit. (caveat: dna sequencing, 40 cycles of PCR we damn sure are) If I can read my 3 billion x 2 long genome with high accuracy I can certainly read a tiny ass virus.

joshuatrio says

Holy crap!!!!

@johsuatrio come on man, you're better than this!

That is way worse than q-anon shit. We've been isolating viruses since (at least) mid last century! We use them as fucking tools. Is there a standardized way to turn a wrench?

Here from the 80s, we use a virus to detect proteins:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_display

I used them quite a bit to calibrate DNA sequencing machines. We use them to transfer DNA from one organism to another - cloning. One of the covid vaccines uses a viral vector to provide the spike protein instead of mRNA:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/viralvector.html

Look @richwicks has stated on here MANY times he likes to learn when he's wrong so I pointed out a gap he has. I'm the same way. The guy is pretty brilliant I thought he'd appreciate it.

Then I get the tin foil hat attacks. I dunno what's up with winehorror I've been liking his posts forever but he's on some sort of war path. Joshua I've always liked as well. PeopleUnited. Well, I tend to not argue with Christian Scientists because they're loco in la cabeza but even with him I agree with his political posts.

Don't go full tin foil hat! When you start stating that this or other viruses don't exist you're going full tin foil hat!

@just_passing_through

I'm sure you're aware that the deployment of the variola vaccine was done under different circumstances, and very competently, because the danger of smallpox was so great. I understand the point you're making though.

If you don't mind another question though:

How do others in your field feel about the current situation of medical/scientific authoritarianism?
We know it has always been present, but now made plain. I'm curious if you've had any conversations with colleagues since the beginning.

DhammaStep says

How do others in your field feel about the current situation of medical/scientific authoritarianism?
We know it has always been present, but now made plain. I'm curious if you've had any conversations with colleagues since the beginning.

I'm not sure. I'm afraid to ask them. Everyone in my group got the vax and virtue signaled except me. We have CRT going through the company right now. I just keep my head down and do my work. I'm hoping to last 7-10 more years in this field as a cis-white-guy but I don't think I'm going to make it.

If winehorror is right and kids get 70 childhood vaccines that sounds pretty damn excessive to me. I'm not a vaccine expert. I have zero clinical experience.

just_passing_through says

PeopleUnited says

Are these sequences your panels test for patented?

No, of course not. You can't patent a sequence found in nature.


SARS CoV2 is not natural.


PeopleUnited says

How does a company decide which sequences to look for?

You're asking me to speak for companies? I don't know. The information is public so every place I've worked we pull down the public sequences and do our designs. Did you take a look at https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global ? That is one source. All ~30K letters in it's RNA genome are listed there for all 4,000 different versions of the virus we sequenced from start to end.



So is it possible that a test was created to presumably identify an infection but is actually just finding a sequence in the sample rather than an actual infection/virus? I’m not suggesting that SARS CoV2 does not exist, but rather that there may be an extremely high number of false positives. It has been suggested by Reiner Fullmich and others that there is a cabal of Uber wealthy that are manipulating governments, doctors and the public into lockdown in order to establish one world government and population reduction (aka genocide). Bogus tests is one method they might use to further their agenda.

Other people have suggested that SARS CoV2 was fully sequenced and sections of the virus were patented as vaccine candidates before 2019. That is why I asked if it is possible that a designer virus was created in the lab, with designer tests and designer “vaccines” also prepatented and ready to role out when needed. Perhaps that is not the case in this current situation but it does sound plausible that greedy and/or genocidal maniacs might seek to enact such a plan. And you have to admit we are living in a Faucian Dystopia more implausible than a dystopian movie script.


just_passing_through says

PeopleUnited... I agree with his political posts.

Thanks, even an atheist can agree that we are living in a Faucian dystopia. It is only a matter of time before you see clearly (and hopefully before your heart stops beating) that all of this and more was predicted to happen in the end times, just as the Bible said it will.

Oh for fuck's sake. Worse than I imagined.

I rest my fucking case for Christian Scientists.

edit: I will still continue to like your posts - the good ones.

just_passing_through says

Look @richwicks has stated on here MANY times he likes to learn when he's wrong so I pointed out a gap he has. I'm the same way. The guy is pretty brilliant I thought he'd appreciate it.

Then I get the tin foil hat attacks. I dunno what's up with winehorror I've been liking his posts forever but he's on some sort of war path. Joshua I've always liked as well. PeopleUnited. Well, I tend to not argue with Christian Scientists because they're loco in la cabeza but even with him I agree with his political posts.

Don't go full tin foil hat! When you start stating that this or other viruses don't exist you're going full tin foil hat!

I'm not on a war path. If I misunderstood you, I apologize. Things are getting heated in the US. Btw, both of my parents have Covid right now. Well, dad has tested positive but mom has not although she is showing symptoms. They're both 83 and at least 2 comorbidities each. My dad seems in very good spirits and was laughing and making jokes with me today. No fever and can breath easily. Mom has nausea and fatigue. Jeez, at 83, ya think? Anyway, I am at wits end as many others here are also.

You're WAY smarter than I. But Covid cannot be avoided. This I have decided to believe. I also think that intellectualism has done almost as much, if not more, harm than anything else I can think of. Maybe greed has caused more. I dunno know.

just_passing_through says

When you start stating that this or other viruses don't exist you're going full tin foil hat!

This is a serious question...can you prove Sars-Cov2 exits? Jon Rappaport has written many articles that say it does not.

just_passing_through says

If winehorror is right and kids get 70 childhood vaccines that sounds pretty damn excessive to me. I'm not a vaccine expert. I have zero clinical experience.

I made that number up. I apologize. I do believe there are so many of them now though, that they give 5-6 vaxes in one shot.

WineHorror1 says

They're both 83 and at least 2 comorbidities each.

Hey man, I feel ya. I just learned last night my dads cancer may be back so I may have to (get to with an excuse) move back to TX to help out. I'm remote already in SD from SF but whenever I go there which is several times a year I get the sneers.. Hang in there, most peeps their age get through it fine.

WineHorror1 says

You're WAY smarter than I.

Maybe not. I've just done stuff related to this for 30 years. One would hope I'd learn by then.

WineHorror1 says

I also think that intellectualism has done almost as much, if not more, harm than anything else I can think of.

Intellectuals are not scientists per se. They are blithering assholes.

Holy shit, that is scary. I am not anti-vax though.

just_passing_through says

Oh for fuck's sake. Worse than I imagined.

I rest my fucking case for Christian Scientists.

edit: I will still continue to like your posts - the good ones.

Thanks, I am a scientist and a Christian but you did not answer the questions. There is no agenda other than to get some answers from insiders.

And again, SARS CoV2 is not natural.

If “scientists” are knowingly running PCR cycles beyond the point of reason, or claiming without evidence that global warming is preventable by human intervention why is it unreasonable that people would create a virus, patent tests for said virus and variants, and then create “vaccines” that are not safe to make money and promote one world government?

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/09/vaccine-and-mask-coercion-is-a-purge-of-republican-voters-and-republicans-are-letting-it-happen/

WineHorror1 says

This is a serious question...can you prove Sars-Cov2 exits? Jon Rappaport has written many articles that say it does not.

Me personally? No. I'm not working on it though.

I've been involved in discovering other genomes and know how all of that works. It's for real. It wouldn't be published on NCBI otherwise. Usually new genomes (or in the past, I work on other stuff these days) go through UCSD then on to NCBI.

Much better but harder to understand than nextstrain is NCBI:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sars-cov-2/

mouse!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/all/?term=mouse