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BTW, "from San Francisco to the nearly equally as expensive Lake Tahoe area" is BS - Tahoe is not anywhere nearly as expensive as SFBA.

Pay cuts, how convenient.

Eric Holder says

Tahoe is not anywhere nearly as expensive as SFBA

Have you checked out the prices of homes in Tahoe lately?

A total ripoff just like everyplace else now. Even southern Delaware is expensive to the point where I'm going to take it off the list.

zzyzzx says

Eric Holder says

Tahoe is not anywhere nearly as expensive as SFBA

Have you checked out the prices of homes in Tahoe lately?

A total ripoff just like everyplace else now.

I did. It's about 30% cheaper than comparable houses in decent areas of East Bay and 50-60% cheaper than Peninsula/South Bay. Doesn't make in a lesser rip-off, but still.

Soon Google will be paying top dollar for living in India.

Eric Holder says

I did. It's about 30% cheaper than comparable houses in decent areas of East Bay and 50-60% cheaper than Peninsula/South Bay. Doesn't make in a lesser rip-off, but still.

Either way very expensive by national standards. Perhaps you have been living in CA so long you think everyplace is expensive or otherwise "conditioned" to think housing prices should be expensive.

zzyzzx says

Either way very expensive by national standards.

Google pays shitload of money by national standards.

RWSGFY says

zzyzzx says

Either way very expensive by national standards.

Google pays shitload of money by national standards.

What's a shitload? It's definitely not in line with housing prices out there is all. I get stock options and other forms of payment, but I doubt your average or median Google employee is pulling in $200k-$250k/yr salary. They need a spouse or partner that makes similar to even live out there. Or live in a shit neighborhood with a long commute.

I know what my wife makes and she's underpaid for what she delivers in sales (different topic). Very few individual employees at google bring in $7-10m in gross revenues whether through programming or sales. It's tinkering around with a system that works already, not that I like google either. They don't just throw large sums of money at average employees.

They also 100% don't need to work from the office. They're a tech company for christ sake. Maybe have them come in quarterly. I'd quit. My wife's office is her car. I can promise she makes more than 80%+ at google in office or from home and generates more revenue individually. You'd think tech would understand this by now. They have to justify to shareholders the retarded amount of money spent on fancy office space that's going unused and costing money.

WookieMan says

What's a shitload? It's definitely not in line with housing prices out there is all. I get stock options and other forms of payment, but I doubt your average or median Google employee is pulling in $200k-$250k/yr salary. They need a spouse or partner that makes similar to even live out there. Or live in a shit neighborhood with a long commute.

I know what my wife makes and she's underpaid for what she delivers in sales (different topic). Very few individual employees (some text omitted to shorten quote...) at average employees.

They also 100% don't need to work from the office. They're a tech company for christ sake. Maybe have them come in quarterly. I'd quit. My wife's office is her car. I can promise she makes more than 80%+ at google in office or from home and generates more revenue individually. You'd think tech would understand this by now. They have to justify to shareholders the retarded amount of money spent on fancy office space that's going unused and costing money.

It is perfectly in line with the housing in SFBA. Plus a second house in Tahoe area if both husband and wife are working there (which is surprisingly common among Indians). Plus his&her Teslas. Yes, the pay is that good.

Seriously, how many expenses can Google write off with a work from home employee? + productivity increases at the office regardless of what anyone says.

beershrine says

Seriously, how many expenses can Google write off with a work from home employee? + productivity increases at the office regardless of what anyone says.

The productivity increase depends on the commute. If it's 10-20 min going to the office every day is net positive. If it's 1-1.5 hrs one way - it's not.

RWSGFY says

zzyzzx says

Either way very expensive by national standards.

Google pays shitload of money by national standards.

Sure it does.

You ready to work for a company that misinforms the country, and lies to the population?

That's the job. That is really is the job.

There was a time here where people fled a company that was acting unethically. Now worthless trannies, stupid engineers, and mid level transgendered and bisexual weirdos staff it. How long do you think that will last? Government will fund it forever practically, but it will become irrelevant. Remember Yahoo!? They were the king of the Internet until they sold out.

It's more work to take the high road, but man, taking the low road, it destroys your soul. I'd rather do work than sell out. Fucking easy to be a pawn, but you really do sell your soul to do it. I've dipped my toe into it, and the job is just horrible, there were literally many days I wanted to die rather than go to work, but I still dragged myself to work.

Google going to pay like the federal government does with locality pay for civil servants.

ad says

Google going to pay like the federal government does with locality pay for civil servants.

Most big tech and fin companies already do that.

RWSGFY says

ad says

Google going to pay like the federal government does with locality pay for civil servants.

Most big tech and fin companies already do that.

And Wells Fargo and AT&T.

Not all of them. Last two companies I worked for don't give a shit where you live. The ones that seemed to be sticklers were in the banking industry.

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