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FuckCCP89 says

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Company: Do we fire employees or do we spend $50 each for our 1000 employees to be tested weekly?

$50? LOL. Way more then that. But employer-provided health insurance must cover testing with 0 out of pocket cost for employees due to the Fed mandate.

Or you can go to a free testing station where they exist (plenty here in the north bay) and send the result to your employer.

HeadSet says

Send an agent on site and fine the company $14,000 for every employee that cannot provide proof of vaccination.

So they'll assume all haven't taken shot right? But if company is saying "Fuck Off!", how will they collect?

mell says

Or you can go to a free testing station where they exist (plenty here in the north bay) and send the result to your employer.

But that's compliance. And gives more data on you to people you don't trust.

NuttBoxer says

mell says

Or you can go to a free testing station where they exist (plenty here in the north bay) and send the result to your employer.

But that's compliance. And gives more data on you to people you don't trust.

True. But I'm not judging people for this, similar to whether you take the agent or not this is a personal choice. Some may use it while they find a new job. Also since this is coming through osha I wonder if that only applies to offices, not for remote workers where there's no physical workplace. Osha is usually regulating workplaces.

mell says

True. But I'm not judging people for this, similar to whether you take the agent or not this is a personal choice. Some may use it while they find a new job. Also since this is coming through osha I wonder if that only applies to offices, not for remote workers where there's no physical workplace. Osha is usually regulating workplaces.

Yep, wondering same. Wouldn't be surprised if my HR tries to misconstrue this as they've already bugged me about it despite being remote.

Agreed, everyone has to make their own choices, but we should all be aware that half-measures, and compliance will take us down the Australia road. Either it stops or it gets worse, but it will not stay the same.

If you own a computer and a printer, you have a negative China Flu test.

Booger says

If you own a computer and a printer, you have a negative China Flu test.

Xactly.

It would be great if somebody had where that was linked here on pat.net

Just hand them a fresh sample from the anal swab version. "Here ya go!"

https://www106.zippyshare.com/v/YVEGE3D1/file.html

Thanks @NuttBoxer

I've been trying to be active at protests in NYC, but I'll freely admit that I'm terrified of this weekend. I want to get out there with the crowds and speak out. I need to resist with my fellows here in this city, if only to show that we aren't alone.

I also know how far the government is willing to go to get what they want. This whole thing couldn't have been better timed for the government and worst timing for me and my loved ones because of work related events.

I genuinely ask you all, am I a coward for not wanting to risk myself or my loved ones to a possible false flag or "genuine" riot this weekend?

I'm really conflicted. I've been actively non-complying with mask rules for months now but I didn't feel as though its enough. I've gone to several protests now, held signs and talked and forged connections with other protesters, still didn't feel like enough. I'm not giving up, I just know deep down something artificially awful will happen because the people I've met at the protests are far too reasonable to be violent enough to cause the police state excuse they're looking for.

I know some of you look down on New Yorkers. If something happens, remember that some of us were trying. Impotently, maybe. But we were trying.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

It would be great if somebody had where that was linked here on pat.net

Here it is:

Patrick says

This works for me: https://archive.is/ADn4U/image

But when I click "dowload zip" then I get a 404.

Instructions work: https://archive.is/zcsdl

Here's a pdf link that does work:

https://mcrh.msu.edu/resources/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf

Here's a link to it hosted on patrick.net in case the above gets censored:

https://patrick.net/uploads/2021/08/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf

DhammaStep says

I genuinely ask you all, am I a coward for not wanting to risk myself or my loved ones to a possible false flag or "genuine" riot this weekend?

I'm really conflicted. I've been actively non-complying with mask rules for months now but I didn't feel as though its enough. I've gone to several protests now, held signs and talked and forged connections with other protesters, still didn't feel like enough. I'm not giving up, I just know deep down something artificially awful will happen because the people I've met at the protests are far too reasonable to be violent enough to cause the police state excuse they're looking for.

I know some of you look down on New Yorkers. If something happens, remember that some of us were trying. Impotently, maybe. But we were trying.

I admire what you're doing @DhammaStep

If you don't want to be in a big crowd that can get blown up by an FBI false flag, be in a smaller group, or work online, emailing everyone you know.

There are lots of ways to resist, and none of it is wasted.

DhammaStep says

I know some of you look down on New Yorkers. If something happens, remember that some of us were trying. Impotently, maybe. But we were trying.

Most of us are Californians(or were), we're not really in a position to look down on anyone. If you go out, record everything. Crowds can give false flag operatives cover, but cameras can expose them.

We are insignificant people who can only do our part. But if each of us does our part, we will change the world.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Thanks @NuttBoxer

Just something I stumbled across..

NuttBoxer says

HeadSet says

Send an agent on site and fine the company $14,000 for every employee that cannot provide proof of vaccination.

So they'll assume all haven't taken shot right? But if company is saying "Fuck Off!", how will they collect?

OSHA does not ask you for permission and will fine you for non-compliance. They will just come in and ask each employee to show proof of vaccination. Also, the agent can also decide to do an inspection of your business and I guarantee you they will find violations and grant more fines. Fighting them in court is very expensive. I have experience with these guys at the Cab Company, and so does my cousin who has a very small furniture making factory in a rural area. It does not matter how much good faith effort you make, there are so many rules that total compliance is virtually impossible, and these guys have the Federal government behind them.

HeadSet says

OSHA does not ask you for permission and will fine you for non-compliance. They will just come in and ask each employee to show proof of vaccination.

What happens if most of the employees are WFH?

HeadSet says

these guys have the Federal government behind them

The most important question is how can we stall, block and undermine them to save lives from the jab.

What would bog them down the most?

Patrick says

What would bog them down the most?

Lack of manpower if we had massive non-compliance. But the large companies will give in straight away, and the first target of OSHA will any medium sized firms in Red states that resisted.

File a million OSHA complaints against those corporations for starters.

Patrick says

File a million OSHA complaints against those corporations for starters.

They will be ignored while OSHA goes after Covid insurrectionists. Just as how the FBI ignored all the Antifa and BLM criminal acts and spent their manpower traveling the nation in pursuit of the Jan 6th protestors.

But they will help tie up the corrupt system, and that's the point.

Other ideas?

HeadSet says

OSHA does not ask you for permission and will fine you for non-compliance.

You're still not applying it to this situation. A bunch business's aren't going to comply. That means no entry to the premises, immediate escort off private property. What does OSHA do then? Came back with guns? They can file fines, but if these business's refuse payment, then what? And tell me how the government handles thousands of lawsuits when they just lost 30% of their workforce because they woudn't take the shots either.

It's illegal, it's unenforceable, and it's going to implode the federal government. Their only hope is we give up and comply. Otherwise they're fucked.

HunterTits says

Yup. For the past twenty years many depts and agencies have become militarized. Dep of Education has a SWAT team for crying out loud.

So how does that play out? Americans are already outraged, then it's starts circulating that government shot their way into a private company in order to enforce jab fines. How many hours before all four million privately owned guns get put into action?

I hope they do try it, Boston Massacre Part II.

HunterTits says

Yup. For the past twenty years many depts and agencies have become militarized. Dep of Education has a SWAT team for crying out loud.

Nobody could figure out DHS's purchase of 1.6 BILLION ROUNDS of ammunition back in 2013. At the time it was said to be enough ammo to fight the equivalent of a 24 year Iraq War. I guess they were just thinking ahead.

DhammaStep says

I want to get out there with the crowds and speak out.

You gotta do it dude. We all have to show up or we're fucked.

NuttBoxer says

A bunch business's aren't going to comply.

I sincerely hope you are right. But I noticed when all those colleges forced the jab on all students, there was no mass disenrollments. Compliance was the norm.

HeadSet says

I sincerely hope you are right. But I noticed when all those colleges forced the jab on all students, there was no mass disenrollments. Compliance was the norm.

My sister's friend is looking to sue her college as she won't get the shot, and seems her credits won't all transfer.

Also, guessing the colleges where they've been chanting "Fuck Biden" before the game aren't as compliant..

NuttBoxer says

My sister's friend is looking to sue her college as she won't get the shot, and seems her credits won't all transfer.

Also, guessing the colleges where they've been chanting "Fuck Biden" before the game aren't as compliant..

I thought all the 3rd tier uni's and tertiary state colleges were already dead-men-walking. Taking on this battle can't help them.

NuttBoxer says

Also, guessing the colleges where they've been chanting "Fuck Biden" before the game aren't as compliant.

I've been wondering if almost all of these kids took the jab.

WineHorror1 says

I've been wondering if almost all of these kids took the jab.

Pretty much. Virginia Tech, a school with over 26,000 students, only had 134 students expelled/quit for not taking the jab.

https://www.wdbj7.com/2021/08/31/134-students-disenrolled-virginia-tech-noncompliance-with-covid-19-vaccinations/

HeadSet says

Pretty much. Virginia Tech, a school with over 26,000 students, only had 134 students expelled/quit for not taking the jab.

Hate to say we can't really know, but do those numbers account for students who faked their card(SUPER easy)? If it was a significant group who left, would they report it? I gotta think no since it would embolden other students to do the same. So rather than speculate on numbers, I'll go with then sentiment I hear on TV.

We don't know how many simply dropped enrollment entirely.

Anecdotally, I know two kids who aren't going back to school because of mask rules. These are commuter students.