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Patrick says

The food thing makes more sense now.

If Punjab provides a lot of India's food, and Punjab becomes independent, then India has a big problem.

So I can imagine that India is illegally expropriating land in Punjab and trying to undermine any Sikh independence movement.

@Patrick
I suggest you to find a random Sikh guy, lesser the education and better it is.
Follow his trajectory of income growth and business ownership, You will see that most of them become fastest millionaires... fastest of anyone.

The reason is similar to Jewish(although skills are different) is hard work and lack of discrimination. Sikhs will be least bothered to not engage with any community and become successful quickly. Having a "open mind" is very congenial to success... Plus in most cases Sikhs are fun to work with and helps them in long run.

What worries Hindoo/Wahhabi cult is that:
1) Sikhs will become very successful soon and create headache for these exploitation based cults. Their citizens will also demand high level of living standard what Sikhs independent nation will have.
2) Hindooo has additional problem that "Hindoo cult" is generally cowards and have no ability to fight war. They will be decimated pretty quickly by China.

I think Hindoo cult can arrange food from elsewhere.
I am not in favor of religion based countries, Instead Sikhs try to finish off "Hindoo and Wahhabi" cult's hold on Bharat and deliver prosperity and justice.
I don't like that as Sikhs in past we need to migrate to USA to burden the labor markets here... It would be best to create additional engine of growth.

Patrick says

I suppose creating famine could be almost as effective as billions of injections in killing vast numbers of people for the delight of Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab.

@patrick
Its the same shit everywhere. Make commoners become dependent for "control" .
It is not easy for elites to let people control their destiny. You will see lot of your commentators over here have hard time letting people to think for themselves.. Imagine how hard it will be for politician of govt technocrat.
That's where Sikhi shines. It lets people to chose your path as long as it is righteous path.

https://reclaimthenet.org/delhi-high-court-tells-twitter-to-remove-objectionable-comments-about-hindu-deity/

Twitter is hypocritical. They say one thing and do another.

Criticism of The Toxxine Religion is censored, but criticism of Hinduism is not.

Tyrants can try hard. Sikhs will keep singing songs and making films of fighters for common man.
Hope some day other Bhartis will grow backbone to join Sikhs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNpb4gGOO64

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/08/21/india-bans-film-accused-of-glorifying-indira-gandhis-assassination/
India blocks release of film accused of glorifying Indira Gandhi’s assassination

Patrick says

https://reclaimthenet.org/delhi-high-court-tells-twitter-to-remove-objectionable-comments-about-hindu-deity/

Twitter is hypocritical. They say one thing and do another.

Criticism of The Toxxine Religion is censored, but criticism of Hinduism is not.

There are always two choices " spread hate" or "create unity" among masses.
As as a Sikh we believe in unity among common man and resistance to tyranny.

Why insult a Hindoo God, Which is in fact appropriated from Bharati culture and glorious past of good society.
Fight should only be with colonists(Whether British,Hindoo or Wahabbi).

I am not in favor of creating deliberate insult of faith of large number of people.. It simply plays in hands of tyrants and divisive forces.

I agree, deliberate insults are counterproductive. But all speech worth protecting is necessarily offensive to someone, and so to have free speech we must protect insults too.

Patrick says

I agree, deliberate insults are counterproductive. But all speech worth protecting is necessarily offensive to someone, and so to have free speech we must protect insults too.

The objectionable comments are about women deities. People talk about raping and other such degrading terms. I dont think such words are free speech.

I think they are indeed free speech as they are not threats against specific people.

We need to hold the line or we will not even be allowed to criticize the toxxine.

Patrick says

I think they are indeed free speech as they are not threats against specific people.

We need to hold the line or we will not even be allowed to criticize the toxxine.

The problem is some people may have sentiments hurt to extent that they are willing to take a punishment for violence they do against so called blasphemy guy. It still results in curtailing of free speech as you can't jail everyone before crime is committed.

Wahaabi threatens and kills people and Bhartis were tolerating it.
End result is Bharti Gods are insulted and Islamic ones are not..... It is still lopsided free speech.

DonewithDebate says

Wahaabi threatens and kills people and Bhartis were tolerating it.

Still, free speech must be protected or we lose everything.

DonewithDebate says

That's where Sikhi shines. It lets people to chose your path as long as it is righteous path.

But what if people disagree on what a righteous path is?

Patrick says

DonewithDebate says

That's where Sikhi shines. It lets people to chose your path as long as it is righteous path.

But what if people disagree on what a righteous path is?

Everybody has their own.. and it hold as long as they allow "everyone else to also have their own too".

Patrick says

DonewithDebate says

Wahaabi threatens and kills people and Bhartis were tolerating it.

Still, free speech must be protected or we lose everything.

We lose everything also when all our citizens are fighting each other and elites funding the "hate propaganda" in name of free-hateful-speech.

Hindoo cult is "Taliban" of Hindooo land.
Wahabbi cult is "Taliban" of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
They spread hatred in common people while serving elites to loot. Shameless cults!


https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/in-modi-s-india-there-s-no-more-room-for-muslim-superstars-in-bollywood-1.10342207
Opinion | In Modi's India, There's No More Room for Muslim Bollywood Superstars

DonewithDebate says

https://scroll.in/latest/1009631/as-virat-kohlis-9-month-old-daughter-gets-rape-threats-delhi-womens-panel-issues-notice-to-police
As Virat Kohli’s 9-month-old daughter gets rape threats, Delhi women’s panel issues notice to police
Kohli’s daughter was targeted after he defended pacer Mohammed Shami, who was subjected to online abuse following India’s loss to Pakistan in the T20 World Cup.

You and your bloody narrative. Kohli did not get death threats or his daughter get rape threats because he defended shami. He got them because of his bad performance. And didn't you hear rape threats are FoE.

It was paki handles who were spreading hate against Shami. Everyone else were trolled much more than Shami, but your bloody narrative wants to use muslim card.

DonewithDebate says

Hindoo cult is "Taliban" of Hindooo land.
Wahabbi cult is "Taliban" of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
They spread hatred in common people while serving elites to loot. Shameless cults!


https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/in-modi-s-india-there-s-no-more-room-for-muslim-superstars-in-bollywood-1.10342207
Opinion | In Modi's India, There's No More Room for Muslim Bollywood Superstars

Another muslim card narrative. Are you really a sikhi. It was hindus who made them superstars. Now since they went woke and started giving "knowledge" to hindus. Hindus told them to shutup and it really burns their/your behinds.

If you really want to how anti-hindu bollywood is check out gemsofbollywood twitter handle.

Same for Kholi after marrying a bollywood star he turned woke. Now he wants to teach people how to celebrate diwali. If you are in New york. Enjoy the fireworks on hudson for diwali. Nov 2nd to 4th.

indc says

You and your bloody narrative. Kohli did not get death threats or his daughter get rape threats because he defended shami. He got them because of his bad performance. And didn't you hear rape threats are FoE.

It was paki handles who were spreading hate against Shami. Everyone else were trolled much more than Shami, but your bloody narrative wants to use muslim card.

Reading comprehension problems?... Read the heading again.
Rape and Riot hate cults: Is it Wahabbi or Hindooo cultist calling for rape of infant?

In the meanwhile Hindooo cult of Islam on rampage again:
https://twitter.com/ZaidZamanHamid/status/1452949838685954048
It is the dangerous time to be a Muslim in India...
All over India Hindu RSS gangs are attacking Muslim property, lives and honour.....
In the last seven days alone hundreds of Muslims have been butchered or wounded... Thousands of shops and vehicles have been destroyed....!

indc says

Same for Kholi after marrying a bollywood star he turned woke. Now he wants to teach people how to celebrate diwali. If you are in New york. Enjoy the fireworks on hudson for diwali. Nov 2nd to 4th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF5yFZnIQ10
Need for "Tree langar" not polluting environment. Progressive Sikhs are changing fast and making their traditions environment friendly.
I want langar to go back to "leaf plates".
Not every Bharti is idiotic as Hindoo cult. Virat Kohli is smart guy .. Although He is coward to not speak for farmers, So Sikhs taunted his loss to Pakistan to nudge cricketers to grow backbone and support farmers.

We need to stop detonating dangerous firecrackers on Gurupurbs and start growing more trees.
Virat Kohli message is for everyone not just Diwali celebrators. Hindooo cult just have to spread hate as this is their Islamic DNA.

https://us.1t.org/pledge/ecosikh-pledge-of-million-trees/
Pledge by EcoSikh
EcoSikh Pledge of Million Trees
Total Trees Pledged: 1,000,000

https://ecosikh.org/guru-nanak-sacred-forest/

DonewithDebate says

It is the dangerous time to be a Muslim in India...
All over India Hindu RSS gangs are attacking Muslim property, lives and honour....

Did you share a video by a pakisthani?

How did he find out it was by RSS? did he give proof that it happened in last 1 week. I know it is a lie because there are more liberals who will share this news and we dont have to get it from a pakistani jihadi.

DonewithDebate says

Not every Bharti is idiotic as Hindoo cult. Virat Kohli is smart guy .. Although He is coward to not speak for farmers, So Sikhs taunted his loss to Pakistan to nudge cricketers to grow backbone and support farmers.

If he had backbone he would have talked about stuble burning by farmers in haryana and punjab. Instead of firecrackers by kids for few hours on diwali.

indc says

Did you share a video by a pakisthani?

How did he find out it was by RSS? did he give proof that it happened in last 1 week.

It doesn't matter. Both Hindoo and Wahabbi can only spread hate.

indc says

If he had backbone he would have talked about stuble burning by farmers in haryana and punjab. Instead of firecrackers by kids for few hours on diwali.

I know very senior scientists in Punjab agriculture. You are right that "stuble burning" is polluting, But You also have no knowledge of agriculture.
It is compulsion of farmers from economic reasons.
Sikh farmers are progressive and will chose environment friendly methods if they can support their livelihood.
Removing stuble and mices is big issue, which fires solve but for sure are polluting.

@patrick , Hindooo cult is as vile and intolerant as Wahabbi if not more.
Forget conversions, They won't even allow restaurant by Muslim to open.

https://twitter.com/MuslimMirror/status/1452868694900494341
Anand (Gujarat). #Hindu extremists opposing the opening of a restaurant owned a Muslim.They are sloughing slogans "If you want to stay in India, you will have to say Jai Sri Ram". #Hindutva.#RSS

Here's what you don't know about Indonesia. The ppl there are basically Malays, spread over the archipelago.

And if you know anything about Malay culture, they are not Arabs. In fact, they're more accepting than the Arabs over even the Arabs outside of the perimeter zones, Morocco, at the extreme end of North Africa, and Bahrain, the British protectorate (a.k.a the party zone) just outside of Saudi Arabia.

So thus, if there isn't a strong clerical influence, a lot of Malays (which also by ethnicity, includes Indonesians) will allow for other religions to exist if not prosper.

The moment that there's an Islamic Revolution where in place of let's say anti-communist secular General Suharto, you have Caliphate Abu Bakr or Khalid Ibin Waled or Timur "the Sword of Islam", then you'll see those converts executed as apostates.

In the years prior to 1979, a lot of Iranians thought the same way until the Islamic Revolution and since then, they never saw their homeland the same way again.

DonewithDebate says

While Hindooo cult is killing people for conversions, Muslims seems to have allowed conversions.
@patrick , You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.

You and your stupid narrative. No proof of killing by hindoos but keep repeating lies like goebbels. She converted because many in indonesia are converting to hinduism. They are naming their kids with hindu names and secretly practicing hindu rituals at home since they are still muslim country.

indc says

She converted because many in indonesia are converting to hinduism. They are naming their kids with hindu names and secretly practicing hindu rituals at home since they are still muslim country.

One more time, Indonesia is Malay(sia), outside of the continental clerical power.

In other words, the authentic nature of Malay culture (acceptance and unification of ppl), is happening outside of the Islamic clerical regions of Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, South Asia, and mainland Asia-Malaysia where the South Indians, Chinese, and Malays live in a type of social apartheid no thanks to Islamic clerical types.

indc says

DonewithDebate says

While Hindooo cult is killing people for conversions, Muslims seems to have allowed conversions.
@patrick , You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.

You and your stupid narrative. No proof of killing by hindoos but keep repeating lies like goebbels. She converted because many in indonesia are converting to hinduism. They are naming their kids with hindu names and secretly practicing hindu rituals at home since they are still muslim country.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24481234
Hindooo are not just show violence against conversions but also do forcible conversion using violence back to Hindooo.

Who are you kidding?
They have violent plan called “return back to Home or Hindooo”

www.firstpost.com/india/from-ghar-wapsi-to-pk-protests-hindutva-mob-violence-is-also-terrorism-2026347.html
From ghar wapsi to PK 'protests': Hindutva mob violence is also terrorism

can't really say that problems of Indonesia or India worry me too much, especially ones that have no bearing on US of A

DonewithDebate says

You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.

Her life is in great danger now.

Patrick says

DonewithDebate says

You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.

Her life is in great danger now.

Hard to know, But article restores some faith that Indonesia Muslims may not have been completely sold to dirty Wahabbi cult.

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In comments made to local media outlet Warta Ekonomi, Novel Bamukmin – part of Rizieq’s legal team and vice secretary general of a conservative Islam movement called 212 Alumni Brotherhood – said Muslims should be “thankful” that Sukmawati was now a murtad, or someone who had quit Islam.

“We [the Muslims] no longer need to be worried about her behaviour, [which was driven by] her religious uncertainty at that time,” he said.

He also bid “goodbye” to Sukmawati, praying that her decision “will be retaliated justly by Allah”.

But Abdul Mu’ti, general secretary at Muhammadiyah, the country’s second biggest Islamic group, urged Muslims “not to overreact, as it is an ordinary, personal event”.

Patrick says

DonewithDebate says

You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.

Her life is in great danger now.

Hindooo cult sure may want to create some trouble. It can help them in Bharat to spread more terror and hatred.
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In India, a right-wing Hindu nationalist media outlet OpIndia linked Sukmawati’s conversion to a centuries-old prophecy that a mystic priest called Sabdapalon would return and “restore the glory of the Hindu Javanese religion”.

Dirty Hindoo cult is trying to create "Rape & Riot" in Punjab too.

https://twitter.com/firdausingh/status/1370382734741278725
"ਪੰਜਾਬ ਗੁਰਾਂ ਦੀ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਵਸਦਾ ਹੈ।"
"Panjab thrives by the blessings of Gurus."

Khalsa Raj=Sovereignty of Purity.
This graphic depicts which areas of India have seen riots and genocides of humanity and out of all the states,

The author can also be reached on twitter:

https://twitter.com/PavSingh84/status/1455236395744825347
The heart-breaking ordeal of the #Sikh women & girls during the genocidal massacres of Nov 1984 & their struggle for justice.

A thread.

Warning of disturbing content.

Excerpts: #1984IndiasGuiltySecret
#TheyLiveHere #NeverForget1984 #1984SikhGenocide

Dirty Hindooo cult leader was justifying killing of Sikhs.

https://twitter.com/tayyabarif8632/status/1455390378732007426
Wahabbis and Hindooo dirty cults think they can use Sikhs as pawns for their proxy war.
Just too funny to watch as they don't know whats coming their way and probably forgot Sikh history.

Youngkin will win. Also while he isn't Jesus he is 1000 times better than the leftoid rot. Works for me

Patrick says

DonewithDebate says

If both candidates work for elites chance is that there may be fair election... But in that case why would we waste time voting if there is nothing for commoner?

Good point.

The degree of election theft is probably proportional to how much one of the candidates seems threatening to the oligarchy or to the credentialed class which fellates the oligarchy for a living.

May be they let some friendly Reds to win so that when they screw Trump again in 2024 , They can claim "fair process exists" ... look those scary reds won last time.

mell says

Youngkin will win.

We all thought Trump had it in the bag as well, and then the ballot dumps started arriving.

Are Sikhs being used against Pakistan somehow?

Patrick says

Are Sikhs being used against Pakistan somehow?

All the time. Sikh regiment is front force whenever China or Pakistan attacks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_Regiment

Hindooo cult wants Sikhs to be just captive soldiers and China/Pakistan wants them dead.
Let us see what happens. Hindooo cult members will end up on Chinese soldiers dinner table sooner or later.

https://www.newsncr.com/national/this-is-why-china-is-afraid-of-the-sikh-regiment-of-the-indian-army-this-secret-is-100-years-old/

I think majority of "revolutionary blood" is moving to English speaking western countries and joining their Army.
It will be fun to watch "Hindooo cult" face China or Pakistan punjabis without Sikhs.