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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   435,787 views  4,257 comments

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633   mostly reader   2022 Mar 24, 8:48pm  

AmericanKulak says
48 hour rule applies.

Could simply be a gas explosion.
You are not paying attention. I just gave you a lot more details than your media sources do.
634   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 12:23am  

mostly reader says
You are not paying attention. I just gave you a lot more details than your media sources do.





You mean some non-English Youtube Channel most people never heard of has a video on it.

"Ukraine reported" is a huge red flag. We'll see. They could have left explosives there or a thousand other things. Don't know where the missile big enough (an ATGM wouldn't do that) would have come from since the place is occupied for many miles around, but who knows. We'll see.

One thing I've learned is to let days go between easily disprovable claims, and a few months to a year go by for the biggies. Like Mask Efficacy, Vaccine Dangers, Hotel Bed Pee-Pee Allegations, Laptops full of Crack and LLC Money transfers from China are Russian Disinfo, etc.
635   Ceffer   2022 Mar 25, 12:55am  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHm7pu7Unu0&source=patrick.net

Weird. Clothes hang different, loose not fitted as always with Biden. Bottom teeth completely different. Do they even care about consistency any more?





636   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 2:26am  

Ceffer says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHm7pu7Unu0&source=patrick.net

Weird. Clothes hang different, loose not fitted as always with Biden. Bottom teeth completely different. Do they even care about consistency any more?







Does it matter if there's multiple people playing the part?

Biden is obviously a puppet. It doesn't even matter if he's a CGI deep fake.
637   Patrick   2022 Mar 25, 3:36am  

The second picture looks like one of those realistic plastic masks to me.
638   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 3:39am  

Patrick says
The second picture looks like one of those realistic plastic masks to me.


Isn't it funny we're at the point where we're pontificating if our current president is a literal actor 1/2 the time? We're not banana republic, we're banana split sundae republic!
639   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 4:20am  



original link


Take from it what you will.

I appreciate he constantly cautions that you cannot trust anything, but that you can draw a conclusion over time based on what pieces of the puzzle fit together.
640   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 9:01am  

AmericanKulak says
You mean some non-English Youtube Channel most people never heard of has a video on it.
My track record here is nearly perfect, in terms of predictions and reports. I earlier explained how to tell if your process holds water. That was apparently wasted on you.

You started this thread, right? And you meant the title in the most serious way, haven't you? The fact that it turned into a laughing stock as fast as it did should've been a hint from the universe that you should revisit yours.
641   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 9:30am  

Another general bites the dust. Yakov Ryazantsev, the commander of the 49th Combined Arms Army. Also, a "hero" of Syria.

Rest in pieces, comrade.
642   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 9:40am  

mostly reader says
AmericanKulak says
You mean some non-English Youtube Channel most people never heard of has a video on it.
My track record here is nearly perfect, in terms of predictions and reports. I earlier explained how to tell if your process holds water. That was apparently wasted on you.

You started this thread, right? And you meant the title in the most serious way, haven't you? The fact that it turned into the laughing stock as fast as it did should've been a hint from the universe that you should revisit yours.


LOL, sure Jan. Also I explained way in the beginning of the thread it was sarcastic. I'm actually surprised at the relatively tepid resistance, though I did expect Azov Battalion to resist the best as it was an all volunteer group of true believers, who typically fight hardest. My opinion is that Putin went in too soft, that the resistance was greater than he was told, but it's nowhere near the level asserted by NWO Propaganda outfits.

I think you're a Faux Skeptic, only showing up to defend Status Quo ideas with biased "Skepticism", and your position on Mask Efficacy is totally exploded.

TBH I don't often bother to read your posts for this reason.
643   mell   2022 Mar 25, 9:41am  

AmericanKulak says
"Ukraine reported" is a huge red flag.


Of course it is, pretty much everything you hear is a lie. The only thing that is a fact is that there are plenty of Russian speaking people that want to belong to Russia in the Ukraine, that's why the donbass and crimea conflicts have been smoldering for so long, too long without any serious diplomacy trying to address and fix them. But people like propaganda, gives a better sense of belonging. It's very powerful
644   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 9:51am  

mell says
The only thing that is a fact is that there are plenty of Russian speaking people that want to belong to Russia in the Ukraine,
Not "there are". "There were". The tense is past. And that's giving the biggest possible benefit of the doubt to your statement. Russkis put a lot of work into changing that during the last month. Mariupol, for example, was a predominately Russian-speaking city. Note that "was" is the proper tense here as well. People in biggest Ukrainian cities, Kyiv and Kharkiv, mostly speak Russian. Those people now hate Russkis with passion.
645   mell   2022 Mar 25, 9:54am  

Had a Skype buddy living in the Ukraine about 15 years ago to discuss a lot of medical research pertaining a specific topic, and he wanted to be part of Russia and supported the crimea/donbass movement in non-violent ways. He constantly had to change and recreate his Skype identity as they tracked him down by web location and he said his freedom if not his life was in constant danger if the Ukrainian govt found him, just for being a political opponent. Eventually he disappeared and never heard from him again
646   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 9:55am  

mostly reader says
Not "there are". "There were". The tense is past. And that's giving the biggest possible benefit of the doubt to your statement. Russkis put a lot of work into changing that during the last month. Mariupol, for example, was a predominately Russian-speaking city. Note that "was" is the proper tense here as well. People in biggest Ukrainian cities, Kyiv and Kharkiv, mostly speak Russian. Those people now hate Russkis with passion.





We already have interviews with Theater hostages who said that Azov kept them as human shields. Last Month, before the invasion, Ukrainian Soldiers - possibly Azov - murdered several Greeks:
https://www-mfa-gr.translate.goog/epikairotita/diloseis-omilies/anakoinose-upourgeiou-exoterikon-gia-ton-thanato-duo-omogenon-kai-ton-baru-traumatismo-allon-duo-sto-khorio-granitna-tes-anatolikes-oukranias-14022022.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&source=patrick.net

Right now I'm just waiting for the next round of BS Fake News, probably about White Phosphorous and "Chemical Weapons".

I simply don't believe anything that comes out, and the Snake Island Surrender, Ghost of Kiev, and photoshopped "Z" on 2014 era equipment (since both sides use largely the same family of heavy vehicles like BMP, BTR, and T-72) has made that clear.
647   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 9:58am  

AmericanKulak says
LOL, sure Jan.
Which part of my statement warrants the condescension? Or you are using it to dismiss something that you can't debate?

You know, I'm always happy to rub someone into the doo-doo that they leave behind.
648   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 10:00am  

mostly reader says
You know, I'm always happy to rub someone into the doo-doo that they leave behind.




Getting frustrated, hmmm? One suggestion would be that random twitter and esp. Non-English unknown outlets on twitter, don't really mean much to me, or anybody who is a real skeptic.
649   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 10:11am  

AmericanKulak says
Getting frustrated, hmmm?
About what? I challenged your statement, you have no answer, and I'm frustrated?
650   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 10:19am  

mostly reader says
Which part of my statement warrants the condescension?


mostly reader says
My track record here is nearly perfect, in terms of predictions and reports. I earlier explained how to tell if your process holds water. That was apparently wasted on you.


Yo, Tone Def, let's drop a new track, yo! This is why I don't take you very seriously.
651   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 10:23am  

As for being skeptical, I've learned over the years:










Guess what almost every one of those lying douchebag "Former Intel" Officials support? Tougher Action in Ukraine.
652   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 10:23am  





Slava Ukraina! Glory to the Ukraine! AFU fighters sweep Moscovites from sky!
653   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 10:55am  

AmericanKulak says


Who's Jeff Cercone? That's right - a jorno. I.e. nobody.
654   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 11:12am  

AmericanKulak says
This is why I don't take you very seriously.
Go back and find a fact that I declared that turned out inaccurate. You may go longer than 48 hours. I doubt that you can.

You don't take me seriously because then CD will make your head explode. Not because you can debate my points. You must protect that fragile psyche after all.

While you don't take me seriously, here are couple more facts I didn't yet see reported here:

- Chubais, one of the closest Putin comrades and Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Relations with International Organisations, left his office and jumped the ship. He was seen in Turkey. If you don't understand what that means you don't understand anything.

- Elvira Nabiullina, Russian head of the Central Bank, has requested to be relieved of her office. The request was denied. This is the unquestionable part. The part which is likely but for which I can't point to a public source is the following: it happened twice, and after the second time she was told that the only way she's leaving is through the penitentiary system for her and her family.
655   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 11:16am  

Minime says
Eric Holder says
Minime says
Im from Ukraine and have relatives and friends in there. I can tell you that most people dont give a shit who rules them. All they want is prosperity and peace.


According to my colleagues in Ukraine this is the type of people they call "wata" ("cotton"?) there. =)) Nobody said these types don't exist - they do, but it was great miscalculation by Putin to assume they are in the majority. Apparently they are not.

It's OK, we had fucking loyalists during American Revolutionary War too.

PS. And how's that "prosperity and peace" going on for the Putin's subjects?


There are wars worth fighting for and then there are wars for power. If you cant tell difference between those then you either young or full of shit. This war sold to young generation as for freedom. If you t...


"Great Minds Discuss Ideas. Average Minds Discuss Events. Small Minds Discuss People."

We used to have the word "you" highligted in red on this site to discourage this kind of "small mind" tilt in discussions. Patrick should probably bring it back.

PS. BTW, did your "friends and family" greet the invading mongoloid hordes as liberators? Please post some footage if they did - this thread desperately needs some.
656   Ceffer   2022 Mar 25, 11:59am  

richwicks says
Does it matter if there's multiple people playing the part?

Biden is obviously a puppet. It doesn't even matter if he's a CGI deep fake.

There are those who argue that it doesn't matter, except as a juncture where you red pill and realize the deep fakes that are going on with brand name identity capture. What is important is the 'crew' behind the corporate shills.

Imposters are nothing more than corporate logos who have achieved valuable mass recognition status, even if the underlying image is a fiction or somebody has been murdered and resurrected for convenience. Khazarian mafia have been into identity theft for many centuries. Kill the icons of wealth and politicos and replace them with controlled impersonators. Use the wealth and influence for your own ends. Some think Bill and Melinda Gates were dead around 2013 or so, and their identity logos and fortune hijacked to serve the NWO madness more directly. Melinda Gates is obviously not the same person, and even looks like a tranny. Any resemblance is strictly approximate. We also saw Justin Castro's double, who looks older, rougher and has a gap between his teeth the the real Castro doesn't have.

It matters to recognize the fake, but beyond that, addressing the conglomerate logo is the thing. Putin is reportedly on his sixth incarnation as the Russian corporate logo. Putin has a common slavic appearance, so he is probably not too difficult to substitute with new actors. The 'current' Putin isn't the original baleful KGB assassinista, but is now supposed to be a reflection of the Russian desire to go back to the days of Russian Orthodox christian heritage and national values pre-Illuminati KommieKunt.

Trump doesn't repeat it more than once, but at the debates, he clearly stated that whoever was out there was not the Joe Biden he remembered and spoke with in the past. He also stated recently that the 'current' Putin is not the fella he was friends with during his administration.

Of course, we have all of those IHLlary body doubles obviously running around. They are a lot more healthy, young and attractive than the old demon cellulite pile.
657   RC2006   2022 Mar 25, 12:11pm  



Is that cockpit from Clint Eastwood Firefox?
658   socal2   2022 Mar 25, 2:00pm  

Looks like Russia is dialing back expectations claiming Kiev and other major cities were never the goal. Looks like Russia might be pushed out of Kherson too.

"Russia had never intended to capture Kyiv, Kharkiv and other cities, the generals said - these are not setbacks in other words, it's all part of the plan. And the plan was to distract Ukrainian forces while Russia/ Donetsk/ Luhansk made territorial gains in the east."
https://twitter.com/polinaivanovva/status/1507400330140696576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1507400330140696576%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotair.com%2Fallahpundit%2F2022%2F03%2F25%2Fdid-russia-just-give-up-on-seizing-kiev-n458020&source=patrick.net
661   mell   2022 Mar 25, 4:31pm  

richwicks says
socal2 says
Onvacation says
Some folks don't like being manipulated by propaganda.


Yeah - It is tough to know what to believe.


Not really. Whatever our government is promoting is the wrong thing to support. That's pretty much been the rule for 20 years.

Were they right about any of the wars?
Were they right about bailing out the criminals on wall street in 2007 and 2008 instead of prosecuting them?
Were they right about passing the ACA that only made it illegal not to carry health insurance, and imposed a $2,000 fine on those that couldn't afford it?
Were they right about LGBTQ+ advocacy?
Were they right to overthrow Ukraine?
Were they right about abortion - up to the day of birth?
Were they right about sars-cov2-19 being a pandemic?
Were they right about the vaccines?
Were ...


Agreed. Chances are dim they're even a little bit right and not totally full of shit
662   mell   2022 Mar 25, 4:40pm  

mostly reader says
- Chubais, one of the closest Putin comrades and Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Relations with International Organisations, left his office and jumped the ship. He was seen in Turkey. If you don't understand what that means you don't understand anything.

- Elvira Nabiullina, Russian head of the Central Bank, has requested to be relieved of her office. The request was denied. This is the unquestionable part. The part which is likely but for which I can't point to a public source is the following: it happened twice, and after the second time she was told that the only way she's leaving is through the penitentiary system for her and her family.


What are you trying to prove? That putin doesn't run a sound and free govt and has many enemies? Does a bear shit in the woods? The Ukranian government is a puppet govt put in place by the US that felt the need to spy on, harass, imprison and (threaten to) kill political opponents and outlaw whole parties and censor the press. Sounds familiar? Yeah thought so. The people of both countries are paying for this shit and putin is at least as popular as zelinsky (which doesnt mean much). It's a tragedy on both sides that could have been prevented time and time again with diplomacy and sound leadership.
663   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 5:24pm  

mostly reader says
Go back and find a fact that I declared that turned out inaccurate. You may go longer than 48 hours. I doubt that you can.


Nah, I'm not aspie or bored enough to bother. This is the dullest and oldest trick out there, flip the responsibility onto me to debunk you. I saw how you tried to maintain the fiction that Masks worked on a public health level by dismissing real world empirical data and clinging to controlled laboratory experiments. In reality, we had real world experience and data on a public health, real world usage level for decades with other respiratory diseases for decades, and the outcome of COVID mask wearing followed those closely - statistically insignificant in almost every case, and even in the handful when it was barely outside the MoE, it was hardly worth the bother in terms of economic and psychological damage. The point being we knew that going into COVID. And it wasn't an excess of caution given the Smearing of Ivermectin (and HCQ), the former of which is now clearly shown to have a solid impact on COVID if dosed early.

This isn't a personal attack, but I've seen your post history and you show up when the Narrative needs to be Defended, so I'll stand in my belief that you are a Faux Skeptic, and not worth my time because you're not up for conversion
664   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 5:26pm  

mostly reader says
While you don't take me seriously, here are couple more facts I didn't yet see reported here:

- Chubais, one of the closest Putin comrades and Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Relations with International Organisations, left his office and jumped the ship. He was seen in Turkey. If you don't understand what that means you don't understand anything.

- Elvira Nabiullina, Russian head of the Central Bank, has requested to be relieved of her office. The request was denied. This is the unquestionable part. The part which is likely but for which I can't point to a public source is the following: it happened twice, and after the second time she was told that the only way she's leaving is through the penitentiary system for her and her family.


Ukraine is the 4th most corrupt country in the world. Russia is the 7th.
. Ukraine was the single largest source of big donations to the Clinton Foundation, and Hunter got a great job with Burisma, that is run by an Oligarch.

What's the point of these facts? That Russia has corruption? No shit. But Ukraine isn't some fantasy Shire of incorrupt, decentralized democracy lovey dovery happy hobbits, either. It's the most corrupt country in Europe:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine
665   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 5:32pm  

AmericanKulak says
Ukraine is the 4th most corrupt country in the world. Russia is the 7th.


By whose measure?
666   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 5:36pm  

Eric Holder says
AmericanKulak says
Ukraine is the 4th most corrupt country in the world. Russia is the 7th.


By whose measure?


Ernst and Young in 2012.

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/people-first-the-latest-in-the-watch-on-ukrainian-democracy-5-312797.html?source=patrick.net

Heard this on War Room as well, first hour I believe.
667   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 5:38pm  

AmericanKulak says
This is the dullest and oldest trick out there, flip the responsibility onto me to debunk you.
That's how arguments work: if you claim or imply something, you need to back it up. It IS your responsibility.

You dismissed my statement, I challenged you on that. With predictable result.

AmericanKulak says
I saw how you tried to maintain the fiction that Masks worked on a public health level by dismissing real world empirical data and clinging to controlled laboratory experiments.

Now you are outright lying. I remember that argument. Where did I try to maintain a fiction? Be specific. I say - your reading comprehension is not my problem.

AmericanKulak says
ou show up when the Narrative needs to be Defended

I mostly show up on 3 occasions:
- when I can be of help and I don't see that help coming from someone else
- when I must engage in a dialog to learn something
- when someone says something outrageously stupid and untrue about a cause for which I care. It has nothing to do with narrative. I just know it for a fact that those who defend this invasion are blowing the trumpet for the worst of the scum that there is.

There's one more, when someone lends advice which may cause bodily harm. This hasn't yet happened here AFAIR. One instance was somewhat close, but not close enough to pass the criteria.
668   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 5:38pm  

AmericanKulak says
Eric Holder says
AmericanKulak says
Ukraine is the 4th most corrupt country in the world. Russia is the 7th.


By whose measure?


Ernst and Young in 2012..


LOL. That's Yanukovitch times where Ukraine was practically Russia's dominion. To the point that their fucking Minister of Defense was a Russian citizen. Let this sink in.
669   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 5:40pm  



"Second military in the world"
670   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 5:50pm  

mostly reader says
That's how arguments work: if you claim or imply something, you need to back it up. It IS your responsibility.
mostly reader says
That's how arguments work: if you claim or imply something, you need to back it up. It IS your responsibility.

You dismissed my statement, I challenged you on that. With predictable result.


I'm going to continue to dismiss your statement. "Ukraine Reported" on a rando twitter account is a crap source. Most of the posts in this thread are unprovenced claims by pro-Ukraine NGOs and "Media" with mysterious funding.

mostly reader says
Now you are outright lying. I remember that argument. Where did I try to maintain a fiction? Be specific. I say - your reading comprehension is not my problem.


There's a thread on it, not too long ago, maybe a couple of weeks back. We had a discussion on YOU providing evidence that masks work in the real world, and you provided nothing but controlled experiments in labs.

mostly reader says

I mostly show up on 3 occasions:
- when I can be of help and I don't see that help coming from someone else
- when I must engage in a dialog to learn something
- when someone says something outrageously stupid and untrue about a cause for which I care. It has nothing to do with narrative. I just know it for a fact that those who defend this invasion are blowing the trumpet for the worst of the scum that there is.

There's one more, when someone lends advice which may cause bodily harm. This hasn't yet happened here AFAIR. One instance was somewhat close, but not close enough to pass the criteria.


Ain't you a hero?

This was a long predicted reaction to Neocon meddling in Ukraine. "Leading Ukraine down the Primrose Path" as Mearsheimer put it years ago in the early years of the last decade, and George Kennan warned about what has basically happened decades ago in the 90s before his death.

Nobody is cheering it, just regretting it because it was predicted.

Literally every single asshole in charge of Iraq and Afghanistan and the Obama-era ISIS turd are the some every single assholes that have been pushing Ukraine to cool it's relations with Russia.
671   mostly reader   2022 Mar 25, 6:00pm  

AmericanKulak says
There's a thread on it, not too long ago, maybe a couple of weeks back. We had a discussion on YOU providing evidence that masks work in the real world, and you provided nothing but controlled experiments in labs.
Because! That! Was! My! Initial! Statement! To which everyone in the right mind should agree - that masks work in controlled environment. It was never meant to be extended to anything other than that. Of course I didn't provide real world evidence, I never was in that conversation and I never defended that position. "I gracefully decline the invitation to join your hallucination".

AmericanKulak says
Ain't you a hero?

You made a comment - I answered. Is there a problem? Apparently there is. Sorry about shattering your little world.

But hey, look, there's a Nazi under your bed!

BTW, I used this last line under other circumstances and didn't expect that I'd have a chance to use it here.
672   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 6:02pm  

mostly reader says
Because! That! Was! My! Initial! Statement! To which everyone in the right mind should agree - that masks work in controlled environment. It was never meant to be extended to anything other than that. Of course I didn't provide real world evidence, I never was in that conversation and I never defended that position. "I gracefully decline the invitation to join your hallucination".


And my statement was Public Health. What works in a lab doesn't always translate to the real world, whether engineering or biology, as IRL is a messy place.

mostly reader says

You made a comment - I answered. Is there a problem? Apparently there is. Sorry about shattering your little world.

But hey, look, there's a Nazi under your bed!

BTW, I used this last line under other circumstances and didn't expect that I'd have a chance to use it here.


You're way too full of yourself, which is why I dismiss you.

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