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AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

People are like "why won't Twitter just change???" - it won't change because people still use it. Duh.

Just like Big Media, Airlines, and Banks have been bailed out, so will Disney and Big Tech.

Yes, this will happen. We are communists now, didn't you realize?

AmericanKulak says

The GOAL of the Technocrat Oligarchs is to create a Fascist Economy where the line between Government and Public is hazy; established large corps are simply insulated from the market. It's Socialism by subverting Corporations, rather than Direct Control by Kommisars.

It will just create a system of shortages. Shortages for food, or entertainment, for toilet paper, whatever. Just like the communist system did in the USSR.

AmericanKulak says

Elon can't take over Twitter because it threatens Big Tech Regime Media.

He can't take it over because it's owned by the intelligence agencies. You don't believe us.

They are free of market forces, but they still need people paying attention to them.

The death of newspapers is ongoing (pretty much finished actually) and the death of television is following. You'd be shocked at how many people are out there just want to inform you, and are doing it out of their basement. The cost of entry is 0 now. They do this shit as a hobby. That's why there's censorship, it's not to protect corporations, its to prevent the truth from coming out, and that's surprisingly easy to do today.

richwicks says

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

People are like "why won't Twitter just change???" - it won't change because people still use it. Duh.

Just like Big Media, Airlines, and Banks have been bailed out, so will Disney and Big Tech.

Yes, this will happen. We are communists now, didn't you realize?

AmericanKulak says

The GOAL of the Technocrat Oligarchs is to create a Fascist Economy where the line between Government and Public is hazy; established large corps are simply insulated from the market. It's Socialism by subverting Corporations, rather than Direct Control by Kommisars.

It will just create a system of shortages. Shortages for food, or entertainment, for toilet paper, whatever. Just like the...

Disagree. It can still be brought down by competition, sure the agencies can fund it but it will become meaningless if it's not the main free speech site anymore. Also at any given point in time there are plenty of backstabbers and people who are not powerful enough yet who will consider switching sides just to advance, or who realize they will be facing increased animosity and poor prospects by the proles which eventually does matter (see the NV governor followed and cussed out in Vegas), the system is not rigid but dynamic, it's a constant tug-of-war, the power balance has shifted left-wards quite a bit in the past years but it could change by mid terms quickly.

I have to say, this forum may not be large but the discussions are hard hitting. Great reads.

mell says

Disagree. It can still be brought down by competition, sure the agencies can fund it but it will become meaningless if it's not the main free speech site anymore.

If it's just a few companies selling products who are subsidized by the government - through tax payer money, and "social media" is also subsidized the same way, and there's no need for advertisement, they will persist.

People won't be able to make a living making alternatives, and people won't be able to make a living selling genuine products.

I keep pointing out that at least 4.6 billion dollars was handed out to unknown corporations during the "covid bailout". That's a decent sum of money.

There are companies that can take on loans at basically 0% interest being kept alive. Compete against that when you have to pay 1% interest on a billion dollars.

Goran_K says

I have to say, this forum may not be large but the discussions are hard hitting. Great reads.

That's the irony, if it had a large readership, this place would suck. We're mostly free of trolls and spooks, and idiots.

richwicks says

mell says

Disagree. It can still be brought down by competition, sure the agencies can fund it but it will become meaningless if it's not the main free speech site anymore.

If it's just a few companies selling products who are subsidized by the government - through tax payer money, and "social media" is also subsidized the same way, and there's no need for advertisement, they will persist.

People won't be able to make a living making alternatives, and people won't be able to make a living selling genuine products.

I keep pointing out that at least 4.6 billion dollars was handed out to unknown corporations during the "covid bailout". That's a decent sum of money.

There are companies that can take on loans at basically 0% interest being kept alive. Compete against that when you have to pay 1% interest on a billion dollars.

If Musk doesn't succeed twatter will fail, slowly but surely. Alternatives will eventually take over. Once it loses influence it's not worth much to tptb

HeadSet says

Goran_K says

Elon really has backed these lefty pedos into a corner.

- They accept the sale, they get paid but lose power over the town square.
- They don't accept the sale, the stock price crashes, and Elon can buy more at cheaper and cheaper prices.
- Elon decides it's not worth it, and he dumps (worst case scenario for stock HODLers).

Now add - after Elon dumps his stock, he starts up a serious competitor. Notice Elon did not buy Ford and convert that company to making electric cars - rather, he created a new successful company from scratch.

Option 5: He breaks the Poison Pill.
Option 6: He gets friends and they play Gamestock with Twitter

mell says

If Musk doesn't succeed twatter will fail, slowly but surely. Alternatives will eventually take over. Once it loses influence it's not worth much to tptb

It doesn't have to have any influence, it just has to APPEAR to have influence.

CNN has less than 1 million viewers at any given moment. How is that being funded? They have multiple hosts that make more than $1 million a year. Ae they really getting $10 out of every viewer on a yearly basis for the commercials to pay for it?

When the government was allowed to directly send money to CORPORATIONS, that was the end of the country. Government Motors.

I remember when Lee Iacocca went to the government for a loan for Chrysler and what a huge deal that was. He got it, but he got a LOAN, and not at 0% interest, and it was public.

Everybody was asleep with covid when the government purchased our entire fucking economy. We have NO IDEA where the money went.

There's two lines of thought:

* The Executives are super stupid morons who don't realize their often trust fund baby bored Wokie Millie employees are shitting them
* The Executives know what they have to say, do/promise to stay in the Club that guarantees future employment.

I'm in the second camp. There's no way Disney Chapek and the Twitter Execs. Chapek started with Heinz and then multiple household brands with Thompson before joining Disney, he knows all about market research and knows that the people who want 50% LGBTQ Disney Characters are Full of Shit and way out of the mainstream. He also knows he's "Out of the Club" and "No longer in the Party" if he doesn't toe the line. The final proof is watching the video of the Disney Execs THEMSELVES talk about their kids in Private Leftist Schools in LA/SF saying half the kids are queer, about their Transkids, etc. etc.

richwicks says

mell says

If Musk doesn't succeed twatter will fail, slowly but surely. Alternatives will eventually take over. Once it loses influence it's not worth much to tptb

It doesn't have to have any influence, it just has to APPEAR to have influence.

CNN has less than 1 million viewers at any given moment. How is that being funded? They have multiple hosts that make more than $1 million a year. Ae they really getting $10 out of every viewer on a yearly basis for the commercials to pay for it?

When the government was allowed to directly send money to CORPORATIONS, that was the end of the country. Government Motors.

I remember when Lee Iacocca went to the government for a loan for Chrysler and what a huge deal that was. He got it, but he got a LOAN, and not at 0% interest, and it was public.

Everybody was asleep with covid when the government purchased our entire fucki...

No it does have to have influence otherwise it won't sway enough people and is useless to tptb. CNN is already circling in the toilet.

mell says

No it does have to have influence otherwise it won't sway enough people and is useless to tptb. CNN is already circling in the toilet.

Yes, Decentralization is key. We're in a race between MAGA and "Own nothing and be Happy" Human Hive.

richwicks says

I remember when Lee Iacocca went to the government for a loan for Chrysler and what a huge deal that was. He got it, but he got a LOAN, and not at 0% interest, and it was public.

Yep. Now multi billion dollar bailouts for airlines (just to name one industry) are expected at least once a decade at least.

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

I remember when Lee Iacocca went to the government for a loan for Chrysler and what a huge deal that was. He got it, but he got a LOAN, and not at 0% interest, and it was public.

Yep. Now multi billion dollar bailouts for airlines (just to name one industry) are expected at least once a decade at least.

Iacocca wasn't wrong - he paid back his loan, the government took a risk on not being paid back - that was the ONLY risk.

Today, government owns industry and there's no oversight.

AmericanKulak says

mell says

No it does have to have influence otherwise it won't sway enough people and is useless to tptb. CNN is already circling in the toilet.

Yes, Decentralization is key. We're in a race between MAGA and "Own nothing and be Happy" Human Hive.

Yes!!! Decentralization. Centralization leads to tyranny by the minority. The wealth/powerful minority. End all corporate charters. I know that is going to sound insane to many here but, just watch a documentary called "The Corporation".

Here's a link...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpQYsk-8dWg&source=patrick.net

MSNBC's Morning Joe Mika says the quiet part out loud:

"he (Elon Musk) could take over the messaging and tell people what to think... that's our job."
https://nitter.pussthecat.org/mcbenis3/status/1515067405491449864?source=patrick.net#m

Scarborough is one strange dude.

"If you like your DARPA propaganda echo chamber, you can't keep your DARPA propaganda echo chamber."

DooDahMan says

Hircus says

Stock market appears closed today.

Looks like the aftermarket stuff

Like what? Ive seen pre and aftermarket, but both are on days the stock market is open.

People should use Twitter and not let Twitter use them.

https://notthebee.com/article/libs-of-tiktok-has-been-suspended-from-twitter-again?source=patrick.net

Example of why Elon needs to buy Twitter.

Along with the banning of Alex Berenstein, Dr. Malone, Trump, and many others.

AmericanKulak says

MSNBC's Morning Joe Mika says the quiet part out loud:

"he (Elon Musk) could take over the messaging and tell people what to think... that's our job."
https://nitter.pussthecat.org/mcbenis3/status/1515067405491449864?source=patrick.net#m

Scarborough is one strange dude.

You've been had. This is a video from a few years ago. They were not talking about Elon.

Yeah, turns out it was 2017 and they were talking about Trump.

Same point though - they want to control the messaging.

Nation state as a fundamental unit of man's organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force: International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state. - Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: The Technetronic Era, 1971

Mika Brzezinski is the daughter of Zbigniew

The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.

- Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages (1976)

Today it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people. - Zbigniew Brzezinski

Great quotes, @gabbar. Thanks.

AmericanKulak says

MSNBC's Morning Joe Mika says the quiet part out loud:

"he (Elon Musk) could take over the messaging and tell people what to think... that's our job."
https://nitter.pussthecat.org/mcbenis3/status/1515067405491449864?source=patrick.net#m

Scarborough is one strange dude.

No, that's from years ago. She was talking about Trump using Twitter I believe.

If people don't recognize what our "news" is at this point, I figure fuck em. It's so obvious, that people who still believe it's information are too stupid to realize it's just propaganda.

Dont have the source of this.

We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure, one world if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” - David Rockefeller at the Bilderberger Meeting, Baden Germany, June 1991

Source: https://www.aspentimes.com/news/beware-new-world-order/?source=patrick.net

Bill was at the meeting

https://babylonbee.com/news/scientists-warn-of-rapidly-spreading-musk-derangement-syndrome?source=patrick.net

richwicks says

If people don't recognize what our "news" is at this point, I figure fuck em. It's so obvious, that people who still believe it's information are too stupid to realize it's just propaganda.

Got cable TV disconnected a decade back. Will never subscribe to cable tv again. Now our tv watching is down to 10 minutes through a $25 antenna. I can't tolerate television.

https://nitter.net/ezralevant/status/1515445620257042433?source=patrick.net#m

Ezra Levant 🍁🚛
@ezralevant
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Reports like this are why the censors want to control Twitter.

Elon Musk talks Twitter, Tesla and the future — live at TED2022

https://rumble.com/v1148id-elon-musk-talks-twitter-tesla-and-the-future-live-at-ted2022.html?source=patrick.net

That’s Musk’s dream. And Trump’s. And Putin’s. And the dream of every dictator, strongman, demagogue and modern-day robber baron on Earth. For the rest of us, it would be a brave new nightmare (free speech). - Robert Reich

SO THIS POS IS IMPLYING THAT FREE SPEECH WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE!

Reintroducing free speech values on Twitter could produce “massive, life- and globe-altering consequences for just letting people run wild on the thing.” - Katy Tur, MSNBC

23.7% is a very high number

Hircus says

Elon Musk talks Twitter, Tesla and the future — live at TED2022

https://rumble.com/v1148id-elon-musk-talks-twitter-tesla-and-the-future-live-at-ted2022.html?source=patrick.net

at t=~12:20
The host asks Elon "why make that offer? [to buy twitter]"
Elon replies "umm....I think it's very important for.... uhhh... there to be.... uh.... an inclusive arena for.... FREE SPEECH"
Before Elon finishes the last word, one can sense that leftists all around the world loudly reeeeeeeeee

Elon is using leftist strategies back against them by invoking inclusiveness. I think the pauses in his words may have been his very subtle way of emphasizing, taunting, and gloating.

He continues his strategy to use leftists arguments in his favor. For example, his emphasis that free speech is critical for democracy, as leftists have been screeching about "save our democracy from XYZ" for the past 5 years.

around t=18:00ish,
Based Elon also injected Signal when he said: "... in the same way you would update linux or signal"
Signal is an open-source, end-to-end encrypted chat app that is much preferable to using tyrannical big tech. IMO he clearly used it in his example as a way to advertise it and raise awareness of a preferable alternative.

t=21:00
"a good sign that we have free speech is when someone you dont like is allowed to say something you dont like"
This draws similarities to the many memes making fun of leftists, like "how dare you not like what I like!?!" or making fun of how they use double standards when censoring, and emphasizing that the real deciding principal is whether or not they personally like the speech.

gabbar says

23.7% is a very high number

That's incredibly positive to see such a stat. This jives with richwicks recent assertions that the tides have turned, and the people have woken up to the media's corruptions.