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116627   mell   2022 Jun 5, 7:09pm  

DooDahMan says

mell says
which makes the 2021 demand even worse


The demand is going up which is just the opposite of what you stated that demand was down

No the demand has been going down since the xidenflation accelerating 2021. 2020 (with many businesses getting covid loans) is obviously not a valid comparison with ground and air travel mostly grounded
116628   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 5, 8:39pm  

Looks like Arabs told filthy Modi to target Sikhs instead of Muslims for political milage.

Muslim monarchs reminded Modi that Sikhs have no country who will defend them so He can start by killing Hindooos and blaming Sikhs to satisfy filthy DNA Hindooo blood lust.

Sikh Genocide 2.0 preparation in full swing.
Too much noise form Filthy Hindoo has started.. Killings will start in few weeks…..

Expect them to kill hindooo in targeted attacks to prepare Hindooo for rioting .. Then they will blow up some planes etc. to shape international opinion.. After that Genocide will start.
116629   RWSGFY   2022 Jun 5, 8:40pm  

DooDahMan says

RWSGFY says
A simple glance at the list of countries which were at different times our enemies and our friends shows that being our friends is definitely a much better deal.


No doubt you have just such a list handy ? I will check back tomorrow or in a few months - maybe you will have that list by then.


Everybody has such a list handy.

Start with Germany and Japan - both are much better off as our friends then our enemies.

Or take Koreas: the one which is our friend not only didn't die from it but is in much better shape than the one which is our enemy.
116630   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 5, 9:40pm  

I noticed my MPG fluctuating as between 22 and 28, mentioned it to my mechanic after an inspection, nothing he saw in the vehicle seemed related. Starting charting my MPG after each fill up at the different gas stations in my small town. Chevron scored 3 MPG worse than the rest. So I say good for Chevron, don't open any refineries. Because like BP(Arco), I will never buy gas from you again.
116631   1337irr   2022 Jun 5, 10:00pm  

*Cough*cough*... there is a Permian refinery being built. I think it will be done in two years or less...

https://meridianenergygroupinc.com/green-refiner-touts-bakken-permian-projects/

Natural gas is going to $40 a BTU from $8.5. A LOT OF ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE WAS BUILT WITH THE ASSUMPTION OF CHEAP NATURAL GAS. Load up on CHV, SJT and a good solar company perhaps. Oil & gas companies are going to have to adjust their reserves as they increase in value because they become more valuable due to GAAP accounting rules.

I stand by Ken Luskin analysis as I have made some money on his investment picks (UNFI, SVU and AMD) and I have some knowledge of the oil and gas industry. So read the medium article and contemplate buying me lunch in the future if you act on his advice. Also, know when to sell...
https://medium.com/@kenluskin1/u-s-natural-gas-in-storage-will-not-have-a-sufficient-cushion-for-next-winter-the-price-will-acc1a950cab6

For your reference on how expensive natural gas will get...
https://www.amsenergy.com/fuel-cost-calculator/
116632   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 5, 10:29pm  

Hindooo dirty money launderers are getting worried that Arab may cut their money supply.
No such worry for oppressing Sikhs as they have no country of their own.

Sikhs have right people just doesn't have numbers like fast breeding Hindooo cult.
Normal Hindooo lives $ one a day or less, But still breeds with no control... Quantity over quality... But it does give them oppressive power especially in democracy without legal protections of republic or bill of rights..
This cult must be isolated in their own cesspool to protect minorities.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sikh/comments/q3z97p/the_need_for_sikh_sovereignty_bharpur_singh_balvir/

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/qatar-kuwait-iran-protest-over-controversial-remarks-against-prophet-mohammad-by-bjp-party-functionaries-envoy-blames-fringe-elements/articleshow/92024965.cms
116633   Hircus   2022 Jun 6, 5:22am  

DooDahMan says

(redacted)


@patrick clicking this link triggered my anti virus. It should be edited out IMO.
116634   Tenpoundbass   2022 Jun 6, 6:13am  

DooDahMan says
The ship's long-range land-attack projectile guided shells cost roughly $800,000 each — about the same price as a cruise missile. The munitions were eventually canceled, considered too pricey to merit producing.


I bet the top brass decided they needed to money to help Congress and the Deep State get rid of the sitting President.

Since when did the Pentagon ever get cold feet about expensive over priced hardware grift?

It's not like America has a Sedition budget.
116635   WookieMan   2022 Jun 6, 6:37am  

DooDahMan says

@Hircus - would it be better if I just put the 1-800 number down for ACBHS ? Easy enough to do and then no false antivirus claims that way

Dude, chill with the passive aggressiveness. Maybe one of you is not up to date on the software? Could be a multitude of reasons. No need to start saying people are throwing around false claims. And yes, government websites do get hacked.

Hircus has always seemed to be a straight shooter. Not sure why he/she would lie about something so trivial (sorry, don't want to presume gender with our awesome modern gender issues).
116636   Tenpoundbass   2022 Jun 6, 7:11am  

DooDahMan says
Just this morning I was pondering things over and I said to myself, self - I bet the damn deep state is behind all of these cost over runs etc. in a concentrated effort to get 45 out of office and replace him with a bumbling senile old fool and a bimbo who could screw up a wet dream.



Well cheer up, they don't have to anymore for the short term anyway. They got $40 Billion in new fresh clandestine funding. Remember the Ukraine vs Russia war we heard so much about, but after Congress approved giving them $40Bln the media went dark on the subject, and it turns out Ukraine is getting a fetid mudhole stomped in their ass, and Kissinger is now saying. "Perhaps, Zelinski should give it a rest already? Now that we got the Check!"
116637   WookieMan   2022 Jun 6, 8:37am  

DooDahMan says
I keep telling you and you keep forgetting I have followed this site for years - I know how the shit works here and you yourself have accused me (without proof) of being a former poster on the site.


Lol. Proof. Don't be offended. Your style is no different than your previous user names. You haven't just "followed" the site, you've participated. Any long time user here knows it too.

I'm also not sure where I said you're a liar. Didn't see that word in my comments. You copy and paste links with the content of the article. Been doing it for almost a decade on and off.

DooDahMan says
But it is okay for some people to do it though


Yes. It's the internet.

Not sure how it got here. I said Hircus seemed like a straight shooter. I've not always agreed with his takes.

As much as some users want to claim this is some echo chamber, I highly disagree. It's a good place for discussion if you're willing to discuss. Seems you're not and want to push your agenda which is fine. Just know people will push back when they don't agree. Has nothing to do with you dude. I think most here lean libertarian which means our square peg doesn't fit in the round hole you want it to. Most everyone is cordial as they have no interest in controlling you or influencing you.
116638   Tenpoundbass   2022 Jun 6, 8:48am  

Tenpoundbass says
They got $40 Billion in new fresh clandestine funding.


Remember the resolution to amend the resolution to include Auditing and Accounting for every cent spent out of the $40 billion was shot down by both parties.

They don't want anyone to know most of that $40 billion will go to buying mail in ballots from the great Citizens of the Shithole Detroit.
116639   RC2006   2022 Jun 6, 8:50am  

Tenpoundbass says

Tenpoundbass says
They got $40 Billion in new fresh clandestine funding.


Remember the resolution to amend the resolution to include Auditing and Accounting for every cent spent out of the $40 billion was shot down by both parties.

They don't want anyone to know most of that $40 billion will go to buying mail in ballots from the great Citizens of the Shithole Detroit.

Let's hope it went to secret moon base or star wars program maintenance instead.
116640   RWSGFY   2022 Jun 6, 9:05am  

The only sure way to not fail is to not try doing anything new.

On the second thought there is this thing:




Far from new or cutting edge but still failing miserably.
116641   RWSGFY   2022 Jun 6, 9:11am  

DooDahMan says

RWSGFY says
Everybody has such a list handy.


Three countries is not a list


One is more than enough to defeat the premise. Three puts a giant wooden stake in its rotten heart.

As I said, Kissinger is a stupid cunt, making stipid, albeit catchy, statements.
116642   Malcolm   2022 Jun 6, 9:36am  

Best quote I have heard is Joe Biden claiming the white house doesn't have some control knob that sets gasoline prices. I find that ironic, since he and Obama specifically set out to make gasoline unaffordable to save us from climate change. Not only does the white house have the control knob, they turned it a little too far and now are going to suffer some consequences.
116643   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 6, 9:41am  

New refineries and expanding capacity at existing refineries are two different things.
116644   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 6, 10:04am  

I'd like more details on exactly what failed and why. I have a suspicion that it's either new stuff that wasn't tested under real world conditions or something that was supposed to save fuel that broke.
116645   Patrick   2022 Jun 6, 10:06am  

WookieMan says
Dude, chill with the passive aggressiveness.


@DooDahMan You are absolutely passive-aggressive, in a huge way.

Most of your comments seem to be designed to provoke anger and disrupt, not to constructively add to any discussion.

I suspect you are a previous user who was banned for exactly the same behavior before. I'm going to run all your comments through moderation for a while.
116646   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 6, 12:22pm  

Yes, they are all Standard Oil at the end of the day. But you may have noticed Arco stations do not put the BP in their logos anymore. There's a reason.

The driving doesn't vary because the gas stations are all in my town, and I'm not a door-to-door saleseman, or courier. Chevron gas is for shit.
116647   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 6, 7:55pm  

Starve the poor Muslim or lower caste/untochable beef eaters of Hindooo land and especially kill their leather industry...
But sell your "mom" everywhere to make money by same upper caste Hindooo cultists... Pathetic inhumane Hindooo cult.

... The contempt they have for regular folks is unbearable.

https://sabrangindia.in/article/who-making-millions-india-out-beef-export-muslims-think-again
Whenever there is any talk of slaughter of animals it is commonly assumed that only Muslims who love meat are engaged in this business. However, you will be surprised to know that the biggest modern slaughter houses in India which export beef have little to do with the followers of Islam. In fact, the big players are from the Hindu community.
116648   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 6, 8:04pm  

Hindooo's mother treating her cultist kids for letting it go stray on road.!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPq6aLFmCiQ
116649   Patrick   2022 Jun 6, 9:18pm  

http://jpfo.org/articles-2022/israel-schools-armed.htm


Protecting Schools the Israeli Way

The widest circles belong to law enforcement and society, doing their best to track and forestall potential threats, and more effectively treat mental illness. We’ve now learned of multiple catastrophic failures at every level of social and political prevention in the Parkland shooting.

If society and law enforcement failed this badly, the idea that guns should be taken out of the hands of law-abiding citizens is folly.

The security circles that we can do something about begin at any school’s entrance, says Goldstein. America wants action. This is action that can be taken right now. "There should only be one entrance and exit into any school property. Fences, security cameras, and a constant check that these areas have not been compromised is essential. At that one entrance, a guard must know exactly who it is that is entering the school property at all times. The guard should have the right to search all vehicles and bags.”

Guards at movie studios check ID and are permitted to search vehicles entering the lot. After 9/11, they even used mirrors to look underneath cars. How can we protect movie studios, yet not give our children the same protection?

“There should be a minimum of two guards on every campus, providing a contingency in case one of them is disabled,” Goldstein adds.“Who are these guards? There are thousands of proud veterans who would gladly step up and use their training to protect our nation's children, as well as be grateful for the employment.”
116650   WookieMan   2022 Jun 7, 6:27am  

DooDahMan says

The Saudi's just jacked up export oil prices again in the last 48 hours (not for the U.S. temporarily at least) which in turn has caused an even bigger spike in world oil prices. Goldman now is calling for $130 a bbl oil based on global demand. At the current trend $150 a bbl is looking more and more like a sure thing until there is a "Global" demand destruction event or series of events.

We've had oil prices at or above $130 before and outside of a few cities gas prices didn't hit $5/gal during the Bush years. What we're witnessing is insane. Closest I've been to a $100 fill up was maybe $75 two years ago, otherwise always less. I've breached $115 per fill up now and we're near one of the midwests largest refineries.

There's less demand. Even with summer travel. The economics don't make sense. Congress or the White House can do something, they just don't or won't. Biden can do stuff, but we get fixated on party politics and "green" energy or you won't get elected. Things like pipelines are very safe and either way we're pulling this shit from the ground anyway.

Fact is urban city dewellers lean left and consume substantially more energy than rural people. I buy a cow from the local farmer, he doesn't have to load dozens in a trailer and haul them somewhere in a semi spitting out deisel fumes. I grow the veggies we use most of the time that last 6-12 months if prepped well. No urban heat sink where I have to run A/C high all summer. A 2/2 Condo in say Chicago at 800sq ft, consumes way more energy than I do when you factor everything being shipped in. Idleing on a highway for hours in a semi.

Even if no new refineries are being built as you claimed, we just had pandemic where it's okay to WFH and supposedly millions of people died. Oil consumption is down. Or the free handouts made people less likely to work. It's a combination of a lot of things and Biden and Congress could fix this with policy. This is on D's and R's too, not just picking on one side.
116651   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 9:15am  

WookieMan says

We've had oil prices at or above $130 before and outside of a few cities gas prices didn't hit $5/gal during the Bush years.

Perhaps refining is now more expensive because of Bidenflation.
DooDahMan says

Regardless of political party whoever is in the White House/Congress can do very little now

Build more pipelines, allow drilling on Fed land, stop vilifying oil companies who behave in exactly the same way or even better than so-called renewable energy companies (who suck on taxpayer teat more than oil and make inefficient and not necessarily environmentally efficient product).

About lack of refineries being the only reason behind higher gas prices - I don't buy that. Assuming that gas price is A+B+C+D, where A is oil price which accounts for about 60% of gas price, refining which is about 20% (B), and the rest is transportation, marketing (C), and taxes (D), the higher oil price is gotta have an oversized influence on gas prices. Oil price can be influenced by gubbermint and so can the taxes. It goes without saying that oil companies will try to maximize profits, and it is easier for them to do it at times when we have gyrations in oil price (when it goes up, jack prices up fast; when it goes down, lower slowly), but I think it is not correct to say that gov't has no influence.
116652   RC2006   2022 Jun 7, 10:00am  

You don't understand CA. It's population it has been importing over the last 40 years is ok with the way things are. Most the people that would be against what's going on have bailed or are sheltered. Most under thirty have been indoctrinated.
116653   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 10:43am  

RC2006 says

You don't understand CA. It's population it has been importing over the last 40 years is ok with the way things are. Most the people that would be against what's going on have bailed or are sheltered. Most under thirty have been indoctrinated.


I have to only chuckle.
There are tons of parents and normal people in California who don't like crime.
Some areas every state have crime.. Is Houston completely crime free?
116654   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 11:27am  

FarmersWon says

Is Houston completely crime free

no, because they vote D, just like in CA
116655   RC2006   2022 Jun 7, 11:30am  

Bd6r says

FarmersWon says


Is Houston completely crime free

no, because they vote D, just like in CA


Because a bunch of CA libs moved there.
116656   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 12:29pm  

Bd6r says

FarmersWon says


Is Houston completely crime free

no, because they vote D, just like in CA


West Virgina is blue state as per your logic.

West Virginia is currently represented in the Senate by Democrat Joe Manchin (serving since 2010) and Republican Shelley Moore Capito (serving since 2015), making it one of seven states to have a split United States Senate delegation.
116657   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 1:43pm  

FarmersWon says


West Virgina is blue state as per your logic.

Relates more to D local judges and District Attorneys, who let perps go. Doubt that in WV they are D's; in Houston/Harris county, they are.
116658   Hircus   2022 Jun 7, 2:00pm  

This past week I read some articles about the potential new LA mayor - was recently a republican who did an republican > independent > democrat switcheroo over the past few years, and is now leading the LA mayor race by platforming on fixing democrat failures in taxes, crime, and homelessness. The dems are scurred because hes very popular, and have been trying to focus fire on him but supposedly nothing is working and sticking to him.

I hope he wins, but he seems like an infiltrator, and I suspect he may go down soon if he's surrounded by viscous angry libs in all the other govt positions, seething in anger that hes rocking the boat and infiltrating their precious fortified stronghold of LA. He'll need to watch his six lest he catches a dagger from an npc.

I must say I LOVE the last minute registration as a dem trick. It really flings the whole "change what you identify as" turd right back in their fayce.
116659   EBGuy   2022 Jun 7, 2:41pm  

What happened in our municipality is that many local quality of life ordinances were suspended in the name of compassion. Overnight camping and impromptu RV parks sprung up around town, along with the attendant bad behavior. I did a several mile walk this past weekend and many of the trouble spots have been cleaned up, but a lot of shenanigans still going on off the main thorough fares.

As a democrat-> independent, I think Shellenberger has the best chance to make a run for the governorship...
116661   Patrick   2022 Jun 7, 4:04pm  



116662   EBGuy   2022 Jun 7, 4:29pm  

Booger says


At what point do I sell off, or at least start selling covered calls on my oil stocks?



A lot may depend on President BIden's trip to The Kingdom. All bets are off if MBS brings out the Orb of Covfefe...
116663   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 5:23pm  

Sikhs giving needed respect to Hindooo butchers.
116664   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 7:56pm  

DooDahMan says



tressing that even if the submarine should spring a leak, she was prepared to go down with the ship.


I think it's more like, "When you have sold your soul to the devil (Globalists, Chinese, whoever), the devil never lets you rest."
You notice all the crumbles who stay in power forever. About the age of 60 or so, most people just want to relax, travel, spend time with their kids, read, etc.

These politicians have been burnished as criminal emplacements, and they got rich doing it.

However, the criminal code is that once you stop producing, you are then nothing but a potential State's witness, or a smarmy deathbed confession waiting to happen. Plus, you are an investment as a brand name and a figurehead.

These guys may have to stay on the job to stay alive. They have to show up to the makeup and dressing wagon every morning for their coupla hours of primping while reading the ticker tapes from Switzerland for their day's performance. I don't think they have a say in their retirement as much as most people think they do.

They got the dough, but can't relax to enjoy it as long as they have a breath to impose their fuckaciousness. Devil's bargain.
116665   richwicks   2022 Jun 7, 8:30pm  

Well, with some hope he is!

I've seen many companies in Silly Con Valley go under because some immigrant asshole who controlled the company was a bigot. They'd hire only from a select group not based on competence, and as a result, they were outcompeted.

Wouldn't mind seeing Google go under. I hope he's racist as fuck.

Google is a poison and the sooner they go down, the better. I welcome their destruction. They are traitors to our Constitution. Fuck them.
116666   WookieMan   2022 Jun 7, 8:39pm  

DooDahMan says

Oil company executives would rather find ways to boost their share price than increase production

It's a volume business, you do understand that, right? Oil will always make money. They can pump and refine more oil and make the same profits at $60 or $130 per barrel. They just sell fewer barrels at $130 and the margins are higher.

This is my wife's business. I'm going to have a fantastic year because people are not all that intelligent about the market for crude.

We can shoot the shit here talking about oil, but if you haven't worked in the industry and sold it you're kind of talking out your ass.

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