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116765   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 1, 10:50am  

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2.0 out of 5 stars Important content, but book has some serious issues
Reviewed in the United States on December 9, 2014
Verified Purchase
Positives:

- This is a VERY important book. It casts an entirely different light on the circumstances surrounding Flight 182, and most notably the Sikh community and devious Indian Government -- the latter of whom was really behind the terrorist attack.

Negatives:

- The authors -- as many do on topics like this -- seem to have one bias only. And that is the bias against Sikhs. They source everything else, remain objective, and tell both sides of the story... except when it comes to Sikhs, where they more or less accept all of the bullcrap they have been fed. Note that they source nearly nothing legitimate or credible when it comes to many characterizations of the Sikhs. The authors also use racial 'code words', and go out of their way to criticize Sikhs whenever possible. The point, I can only assume, is to be above any criticism that they sided with the Sikhs and were therefore biased. So they overcorrected and in the process lost their objectivity on particular issues.

- The story is not told well. This is a second edition and I'm not sure if the first edition was better, but this one is choppy.

- There really is no conclusion.

4/10.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Great tale of the dirty deeds of the Indian government
Reviewed in the United States on June 29, 2017
This book not only covers the 1985 Air India bombing case well, it also gives, in the process, a very thorough description of the turbulent times of the mid-1980s. Because of great political upheavals in Punjab, the Canadian Sikh community went through went through lot of turbulence.
There are many aspects to the plane's bombing: terrorism, Sikhs' aspirations and troubles, the Indian government's treatment of the Sikhs in India and also in Canada, how the Canadian government handled the situation, and the sufferings of the victims of this tragedy. This book focuses on the animosity between the Sikhs and the Indian government, and also the role of the Canadian government that was caught between these two adversaries.
The two journalists are well-qualified for the subject matter and it shows in the detail they present. Another reviewer states that the authors are biased against the Sikhs. This is not the case at all. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence presented. You can make up your own conclusions by putting together the pieces. The authors are very clear about few things:
1. The Indian diplomats and their agents in Canada were continually acting to subvert the Canadian Sikh community and thus maligned the broader Sikh community when only a small number of Canadian Sikhs were possibly violently inclined in the context of the extreme violence that was going on in India at the time.
2. The key Sikhs implicated in the Air India plot were in contact with the Indian authorities.
3. The Canadian External Affairs ministry of the time acted very partial to the Indian government for business reasons.
All taken together, the reader is left with the impression that, more than the reactionary elements within the Sikh community who were reacting to the extreme violence against their homeland, the Indian government was pulling strings behind the scenes to malign the name of the Sikhs in foreign capitals.
Just as it is well-established in hindsight that Indira Gandhi's dirty tricks in Punjab got out of control and true militancy took birth, it is quite likely that something similar happened in June 1985 in Canada as well.
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116766   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 1, 10:51am  

Dirty deeds of Filthy Hindooo cult
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This book not only covers the 1985 Air India bombing case well, it also gives, in the process, a very thorough description of the turbulent times of the mid-1980s. Because of great political upheavals in Punjab, the Canadian Sikh community went through went through lot of turbulence.
There are many aspects to the plane's bombing: terrorism, Sikhs' aspirations and troubles, the Indian government's treatment of the Sikhs in India and also in Canada, how the Canadian government handled the situation, and the sufferings of the victims of this tragedy. This book focuses on the animosity between the Sikhs and the Indian government, and also the role of the Canadian government that was caught between these two adversaries.
The two journalists are well-qualified for the subject matter and it shows in the detail they present. Another reviewer states that the authors are biased against the Sikhs. This is not the case at all. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence presented. You can make up your own conclusions by putting together the pieces. The authors are very clear about few things:
1. The Indian diplomats and their agents in Canada were continually acting to subvert the Canadian Sikh community and thus maligned the broader Sikh community when only a small number of Canadian Sikhs were possibly violently inclined in the context of the extreme violence that was going on in India at the time.
2. The key Sikhs implicated in the Air India plot were in contact with the Indian authorities.
3. The Canadian External Affairs ministry of the time acted very partial to the Indian government for business reasons.
All taken together, the reader is left with the impression that, more than the reactionary elements within the Sikh community who were reacting to the extreme violence against their homeland, the Indian government was pulling strings behind the scenes to malign the name of the Sikhs in foreign capitals.
Just as it is well-established in hindsight that Indira Gandhi's dirty tricks in Punjab got out of control and true militancy took birth, it is quite likely that something similar happened in June 1985 in Canada as well.
116767   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jul 1, 10:54am  

i wonder why so much anti India government propaganda lately infiltrating America. its kind of irrelevant and odd. what is the purpose behind all this shit
116768   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 1, 10:58am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


i wonder why so much anti India government propaganda lately infiltrating America. its kind of irrelevant and odd. what is the purpose behind all this shit


Victims of genocide oppose the Genociders. Why so surprised?
Jews still oppose Nazis even when they are dead......... Hindoooo Nazi is still alive waiting to be brought to justice.
Awareness needs to be created to bring down Hindooo Nazi cult and hang them from poles to usher in freedom in Bharat.
116769   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 1, 11:00am  

https://www.siasat.com/i-support-killing-of-muslims-sikhs-canadian-hindu-extremist-ron-banerjee-2357391/
I support killing of Muslims, Sikhs: Canadian Hindu extremist Ron Banerjee
116770   Patrick   2022 Jul 1, 9:08pm  

Who is your audience for this @FarmersWon ?

I think you'd reach more people with a more moderate message.
116773   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 8:23am  

Patrick says


Who is your audience for this @FarmersWon ?

I think you'd reach more people with a more moderate message.


@patrick
I see most of people rail against globalists day and night.
I understand the frustration .. But Globalist crimes are still far less than filthy Hindoo cult of genocide DNA.

Assume Globalists burn your folks by putting burning tires in your necks, Hunted you in your own houses .. Raped your women.
How would this site look like?.. I am far restrained and only focused in stoping the repeat which dirty Hindoooo cult DNA is planning.

They are looting like no tomorrow and once the people run out of little food they can have… They will unleash the genocidal Hindoo on minorities.
116774   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 8:53am  

Are you complaining about the government of India, or all Hindus?
116775   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 9:04am  

Patrick says


Are you complaining about the government of India, or all Hindus?


Hindooo Nazi cult and its enablers.
For comparison, How much common Germans can we blame for Nazi Party Rise.
Like many Germans , Many Bhartis are supporting Hindooo Nazi cult.

So anybody who supports Hindooo cult is guilty in my book.Nazis can’t rise without tacit support from bigoted population… As by definition violent majoritarianism in inhumane.
116776   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 9:08am  

Patrick says

Are you complaining about the government of India, or all Hindus?


Not complaining , But warning that take care of Hindooo Nazis or let it get worse like in WW2 with Hitler ….loss of millions of lives for Nazi blood lust.
116777   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 9:10am  

By the way it is coming to our shores.
Don’t complain later when Sikhs deal it with themselves when pushed to wall.
Law enforcement should just send them back to their hellhole.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AudreyTruschke/status/1543200327725350913

The Hindu Right, openly calling for a New Jersey-based individual to murder a professor.

"Are we going to be cowards even in terrorism?"

#Rutgers #violence #deaththreat #Twitter #Hindutva
116778   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 9:13am  

@patrick

Look here and tell me What are Sikhs supposed to do?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1539922992976773121
Hindu Supremacist leader Ron Banerjee, the Executive Director of Hindu Conference of Canada openly demanding killing of of Muslims and Sikhs in India, saying “they deserve to die”!
116779   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 9:59am  

They downed Air India plane using agents to defame Sikhs.
Hindooo cult is dangerous never to be trusted.

Hindoo Nazis has no regard for human life, There sole purpose is genocide and enslaving Bhartis using caste system and women using God’s dick.

Once exposed they will be hanged by international courts.. But we need to do now or wait till huge loss of life.
116780   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 12:25pm  

@FarmersWon

OK, that's a really fucked up guy. I see you have a point about Hindu radicals, but I don't know a great solution.

Maybe it would indeed be best if the Sikhs had their own country. The Republic of Ireland is a pretty peaceful place now that it's independent and almost entirely Irish Catholic natives. It's only in Northern Ireland with its divided population that the violence continues.
116781   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 12:39pm  

Patrick says


@FarmersWon

OK, that's a really fucked up guy. I see you have a point about Hindu radicals, but I don't know a great solution.

Maybe it would indeed be best if the Sikhs had their own country. The Republic of Ireland is a pretty peaceful place now that it's independent and almost entirely Irish Catholic natives. It's only in Northern Ireland with its divided population that the violence continues.


@patrick
Geography and numbers(very small community) is cruel for Sikhs.
Surrounded by radical muslims(Pakistan), Hindooo cult and Communist China.. The trifecta of cruelty and Autocracy.. and no sea access..It will not work out.

I think Sikhs are spreading in world, But generally this means you lose your culture eventually.

Irish has advantage of living on island with sea access and much more mature neighbours .

But what Sikhs should definitely do is not let Hindooo cruel cult establish in west and also make there and others life miserable.. Deportations must start now.
116782   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 12:56pm  

@patrick
By the way trifecta of cruelty.. Radical Islamic cults of Hindooo and Wahabbi and communist China won’t let oasis of democracy grow in their region.. These systems don’t need competition with a country where individual has sovereignty over their lives.

You see china engulfed Hong Kong and mold it into their autocratic system .. They are not too happy with Taiwan, Japan ans Korea but love North Korea …..

US influence in Asia is fading and US citizens rightly don’t want their resources to be spend on policing the world.

Sikhs asking for Khalistan are ignoring the practical reality that only thing this cruel continent of Asia will allow is “North Korea” version of Khalistan where they can influence peddle….
Khalistan will also have nothing to offer to globalists either to protect it for natural resources .. Overall no good option for Sikhs.
116783   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 2:24pm  

https://mobile.twitter.com/OfficialSauravD/status/1542260292780175361?cxt=HHwWgsDR5ZTkmucqAAAA

Filthy Hindooo judges on Nazi court. The sole purpose of Hindooo cult is corruption and intolerance.
116784   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 2:31pm  

FarmersWon says

The sole purpose of Hindooo cult is corruption and intolerance.


I don't see them that way. I never had any personal problems with Hindus.

I don't understand the Hindu religion enough to have an opinion on it, unlike Islam. I've read the Koran and a lot of other material and think I understand it pretty well.
116785   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 2:38pm  

Patrick says


FarmersWon says


The sole purpose of Hindooo cult is corruption and intolerance.


I don't see them that way. I never had any personal problems with Hindus.

I don't understand the Hindu religion enough to have an opinion on it, unlike Islam. I've read the Koran and a lot of other material and think I understand it pretty well.



I am sure you will also not have personal problem with democrats. The evil lies at top not at common man level. Common Bhartis can be quite personable and I have 100s of friends but I see them as just brainwashed people in most cases and there is no point to have debate with them.. similar way you will avoid to lose your globalist supporting friends.
Always attack the handler not peon.

Hindooo is cult of Islam.
It was a created by Islamic invaders to keep natives in check.
Hindooo DNA by nature is colonial .
116786   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 2:59pm  

FarmersWon says

Hindooo is cult of Islam.


I don't see the connection. The Hindu religion is far older than Islam.
116787   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 2, 4:11pm  

Patrick says


FarmersWon says


Hindooo is cult of Islam.


I don't see the connection. The Hindu religion is far older than Islam.



There is no “Hindoo” word in ancient Bharti texts.
It came in being only after Islamic invaders enslaved Bharat and creating this filthy cult for oppression along with caste system and women enslavement.
Original Bhartis were worshippers of nature.

@patrick
They rarely do frontal challenge to Sikhs and when they do try to escape with this:
“Hindoooo is not religion but way of life”.

Hindooo is same like global warming crap , Its ultimate game plan is to take away sovereignty and give it to few hindooo cult owners.Hindoo will always worship powerful and spit on poor the complete opposite of a Sikh.
116788   Patrick   2022 Jul 3, 1:01am  

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-indias-caste-system-195496


The origins of the caste system in India and Nepal are not fully known, but castes seem to have originated more than 2,000 years ago. Under this system, which is associated with Hinduism, people were categorized by their occupations.


I think the caste system is much older than Islam.
116789   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 3, 8:09am  

Patrick says


https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-indias-caste-system-195496


The origins of the caste system in India and Nepal are not fully known, but castes seem to have originated more than 2,000 years ago. Under this system, which is associated with Hinduism, people were categorized by their occupations.


I think the caste system is much older than Islam.



@patrick
Social structure is universal.
But stopping the upper mobility and all the native Bhartis made “untouchables” is handiwork of dirty hindooo cult for their Islamic masters.
116790   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 3, 9:23am  

This Hindoo knows well what Hindoo cult does.. Killing own to blame minorities.
Previous his Hindoo party was doing same, Downing planes to blame/defame Sikhs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1543630473682886657

I had warned you about Pulwama in December 2018!
116791   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 3, 9:28am  

Filthy Hindooo did same to Sikhs fighting for sovereignty.
They inserted their agents to kill common hindooo and do human rights violations to defame Sikhs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1543547051501297664
People in Jammu & Kashmir nabbed two terrorists, and one of the terrorists had resigned just 2 months ago from the post of IT & Social Media in charge of the ruling Hindu Right-Wing Party, BJP. These guys call themselves nationalists & rest of the world as ISI agents!
116792   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 3, 9:31am  

Hindoo tailor was killed by Hindooo agents to start genocide of minorities.
@indc type Hindooo crying victimhood.. Now they will hide in some hole till Hindooo agents do next genocide planning.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1543166778691538946
Is Udaipur another Pulwama? The Killer, who killed a Hindu in the name of Islam, is with the leader of the Hindu Right-Wing ruling party.
116794   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 3, 10:37am  

Hidooo cult's mother is killing thousands every year on roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHeFu7Z4gC8
British backpacker attacked by cow during India trip
116795   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 3, 10:39am  

While Hindooo cult enjoys fine dining and best medical treatments in London and NY, The commoners solution for food,medicine,fuel etc. is Cow dung.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbFMYt4nnzY
Doctors warn against cow dung as COVID cure in India
59,954 views May 11, 2021 Doctors in India are warning against the practice of using cow dung in the belief it will ward off COVID-19, saying there is no scientific evidence for its effectiveness and that it risks spreading other diseases.
116797   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 5, 9:12am  

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
116800   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 5, 9:36am  

Filthy Hindoo saying freedom of religion will be crushed by Hindooo Nazis.

https://mobile.twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1543705176712048640
116801   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 5, 9:39am  

Filthy Hindoo saying they don’t believe in constitition of shithole.
https://mobile.twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1543550016241139712
116802   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 5, 9:53am  

Filthy Hindooo

https://mobile.twitter.com/HindutvaWatchIn/status/1542472959826178049

This happened in Gurgaon, Haryana.

Yesterday Hindutva organisations took out a rally and raised derogatory slogans against Prophet of Islam.

They also raised genocidal slogans like "When Muslims will be chopped off, they'll cry Ram Ram".
116803   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 5, 9:59am  

Sikhs and Christians should join hands to free Bharat from fundamentalism of Islamic cults of Hindooo and Muslim.

Sikhs(Khalsa Raj) and Christians(Western Democracy) are aligned to provide freedom of religion and speech.
They also have moral authority to hang Hindoo and Muslim Nazis to usher in era of freedom.
116804   FarmersWon   2022 Jul 5, 10:12am  

Filthy Hindoo Nazis

https://mobile.twitter.com/thecaravanindia/status/1540930354906898432

“There were around twenty Hindu Yuva Vahini men in the police station when I was taken in. They started shouting ‘Jai Shri Ram’ the moment they saw me,” Ahmad said. “I could clearly see matters slipping out of the hands of the policemen.”

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