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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   190,137 views  3,372 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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3168   Onvacation   2022 Jun 3, 5:55pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?


@Heraclitusstudent Are you still with us?

The Wuhan is a killer. Hope it did not get you.
3170   Patrick   2022 Jun 9, 6:28pm  

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/sars-2-surges-only-in-the-winter?s=r


SARS-2 surges only in the winter, goes endemic after two waves, is impervious to vaccination, and has become harmless with Omicron
A brief look at the Corona pandemic in Europe from the perspective of excess mortality

A lot of the Corona data we’re fed is essentially meaningless propaganda, and it has obscured crucial patterns. Here, I want to look at the only metric that really matters, namely excess mortality, to make some basic points about what has happened to us since 2020, and what is happening now.

To date, the pandemicists have counted five or six waves of infection. If you ignore the case statistics, though, and look at nothing but European excess mortality, you see a totally different picture. Corona only has one deadly season a year, namely the winter, and no European country has seen more than two winter mortality spikes. ...

It’s definitely Omicron, and not the vaccines, that stopped the deaths. The same pattern exists in Austria, which is slightly less heavily vaccinated than Germany; and also in Hungary and Slovenia, which are substantially less vaccinated. ...

In Europe, Corona kills people for two seasons, and then it becomes a nothingburger, no worse than seasonal influenza in a bad year. You see exactly the same picture in England – two mortality waves, and then it’s over...

In most countries, the two-wave mortality surge was over by the time the vaccines were rolled out; in central Europe, it was still raging, but it was Omicron and not the vaccines that stopped the deaths.
3175   Onvacation   2022 Jun 17, 1:30pm  

Patrick says

has become harmless with Omicron

I conjecture that it was never deadly unless you were old and/or sick. I suppose it was the Omicron variant I caught. I do believe it might have been deadly if I were weak or had other comorbidities.
3176   Patrick   2022 Jun 17, 1:55pm  

Even the common cold can bump off people are are very weak.
3178   Onvacation   2022 Jun 20, 6:16am  

My mother in law (The 92 year old woman we shut the country down for) got the Wuhan. She was sick for a couple of days but is improving now.

This disease killed the old AND sick, had to be both, or just really sick. Being jabbed could also result in your demise. The rest was political theatre.

When will the pandemic officially be over?
3179   Patrick   2022 Jun 20, 6:29pm  

https://brownstone.org/articles/at-the-military-olympics-october-2019-wuhan-china-athletes-caught-covid/

This fits with everyone at my workplace getting the same "cold" on November 26th of 2019.

I remember it was very odd, with a metallic smell I had never experienced before.

Of course no one died, or even got all that sick.
3180   Patrick   2022 Jun 26, 5:56pm  

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/towards-a-general-theory-of-corona


Towards a General Theory of Corona and Why No Interventions Ever Seem to Work As Intended

Why have lockdowns and other containment measures proven so generally ineffective against SARS-2? What causes waves of infection to begin, and why do they collapse long before all the susceptible have been infected? What is the significance of asymptomatic infection? Why do the vaccines seem to boost infections for a few weeks after the first and third doses? Why did the SARS-2 spike protein begin to experience heavy selection pressure in the latter half of 2020, giving rise to variants like Alpha and Delta? How did these variants manage so completely to replace prior lineages?

Increasingly, I wonder whether all of these questions aren’t just facets of the same phenomenon – one that was first described by R. Edgar Hope Simpson in his fascinating book on The Transmission of Epidemic Influenza (New York, 1992). As I said on Twitter, Hope-Simpson is one of the only people to have attempted what might be called a zoology of viruses. That is to say, he tried to analyse and explain how influenza interacted with its human hosts more broadly, and not just how it infected cells and responded to antibodies. This is precisely where modern epidemiology and virology are most deficient, with extremely simplistic understandings of how viruses behave across the population. ...

Hope-Simpson therefore concluded that influenza transmission was a far more subtle matter, than sick people infecting the healthy.

He proposed instead a two-phase process:

1) Acute infection, lasting a week or two, during which influenza is only transmitted very rarely.

2) Latency, whereby a subset of recovered people fail to clear the virus completely, and instead become asymptomatic carriers for many months, until seasonal factors correlated with latitude cause them to become infectious once again, generally without any noticeable recurrence of illness.

Alpha might have spread faster than wild-type SARS-2, but how did it actually succeed in wiping out these wild-type strains? Hope-Simpson calls this the “disappearing act,” as it is also observed with successive strains of influenza, and is very hard to account for.

Hope-Simpson finds the beginning of an answer in old influenza A antibody experiments:

During the great influenza A epidemic of the 1950–51 season, Isaacs in London, England and independently Archetti and Horsfall in the United States made a seminal observation. Two minor variants of the A (H1N1) subtype, “Scandinavian” and “Liverpool,” were co-circulating in many parts of the world. In both laboratories it was discovered that if the Scandinavian strain were made to infect a fertilized chicken egg in the presence of Scandinavian antibody, the strain harvested a few days later would turn out to be Liverpool. Vice versa, an appropriate dose of homologous antibody induced Liverpool virus-infected eggs to yield a harvest of Scandinavian virus.

The findings have been repeated with other strains of influenza virus in many laboratories throughout the world. (p. 99)

Some influenza strains, in other words, emerge spontaneously, via mutation, as a response or solution to the antibodies generated against other strains. Thus Hope-Simpson held that selection for new influenza strains happened primarily in the latent carriers of the virus, after acute infection.

Over months, the virus that lurked in carrier tissues was able to train itself against their immune response. Various mutant strains arose, and when the carriers became infectious again, the most contagious of these mutants went on to infect other people as the new influenza strain. Because the set of optimal solutions was in every case limited, all the latent carriers infected with the prior strain ended up incubating the same set of successor strains.
3184   KgK one   2022 Jul 6, 6:30pm  

Curious if someone has done research on no of dead people due to covid and how many were dem vs republican, vs independent
3190   Onvacation   2022 Jul 15, 1:06pm  

Booster will keep you protected for 6 weeks (after a two week waiting period to build up antibodies).
3191   Onvacation   2022 Jul 15, 1:11pm  

Onvacation says

Booster will keep you protected for 6 weeks

"They're liberal, but not woke."
Leftist that don't want to wear masks anymore.
3192   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jul 15, 4:07pm  

This woman Kim Iverson is an imbecile. She confuses FDA approval with EUA. And she wrongly claims the Novavax vaccine is not based upon the spike protein, but another part of the virus. The vaccine contains a few spike proteins immobilized on a nanoparticle. The website cartoon shows three, if she wans't so lazy to investigate it. She does have some assets, and, but for the hair, would be a typical big-breasted dumb blonde. It's the ethnic minority amateur hour, folks.

3194   richwicks   2022 Jul 16, 6:51pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

The website cartoon shows three, if she wans't so lazy to investigate it.


When will people learn what a MARKETER is? She doesn't give a fuck about the facts, she cares about her paycheck.
3196   HeadSet   2022 Jul 26, 11:11am  

The criteria above for the NYC Monkeypox vaccine would deny an under 18-year-old who was a victim of multiple abusers.
3197   stereotomy   2022 Jul 26, 11:26am  

HeadSet says

The criteria above for the NYC Monkeypox vaccine would deny an under 18-year-old who was a victim of multiple abusers.

They can get doctors to cut his dick and balls off without legal repurcussions, but, yeah, let your faggy/tranny son remain a monkeypox carrier at the orgies.
3204   zzyzzx   2022 Aug 16, 6:38am  

"Covid-nerds" should be more concerned about treating their crippling mental illness than with dodging a fucking cold virus.
3205   WookieMan   2022 Aug 16, 7:42am  

It really is mental illness. I don't know, maybe it was a way to find out who the real retards in society are? I actually wouldn't mind that if I'm being honest. Weed those fuckers out. And yes, covid paranoia is retardation. Heavy word, but it's true. My own mother is one. She still smoke cigarettes... yet is afraid of covid. Hypocritical much?

I'm getting to this zen phase in life. Live it. You only have one. Enjoy it. We're all going to get sick with something. Stay as healthy as you can and that "should" help. Let go of the past, live in the present and stop trying to predict the future. I have few regrets so far in life and that's the way it should be. I could drop tomorrow and feel I lived a good if not great life.
3207   ElYorsh   2022 Aug 17, 11:57am  

I finally officially got COVID. Took 9 days to clear it out. I am un-vaxxed and the worst symptom was feeling like I had really bad hangover from days 2-6, with low grade fever. No breathing problems, just coughing here and there, runny nose, slightly sore throat. Fatigued days 3-8. That's it. FUCK THE VACCINES

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