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The Illinois, California Exodus


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2019 Jun 17, 10:58pm   57,227 views  303 comments

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People fleeing to Florida, Texas, South Carolina.

http://myuhaulstory.com/2019/01/02/uhaul-names-top-50-growth-states-for-2018/

Almost twice as much to leave California for Texas than Vice-Versa:
https://lightfromtheright.com/2012/11/22/latest-haul-index-shows-californians-leaving-for-texas/

When you bring a U-Haul back to California, you do the company a favor, so another Middle Class family can leave for Texas.

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110   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 14, 11:48am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/875fbe57-7651-3b2c-806f-8dafa69dcf0d/caterpillar-to-move.html

Caterpillar to move headquarters to Texas from Illinois in fresh blow to the Chicago area
111   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2022 Jun 14, 7:58pm  

Ceffer says


Ultra_FJB says


Started packing for my CA evacuation 3.5 months out.

Remember, stay humble in your new environs and don't Californicate them.



@Ceffer I grew up there. I have a LOT of friends who are looking forward to my move back much less family.

However: Understood, hell no I won't do that.

I'm more concerned about some of them already being brainwashed by the lefties - some of the facefuck posts I see these days make me think I should just keep going to Florida. Which in fact is part of the longer term plan but my parents are hitting 80s (dad at least) and so I want to be around to help out.
112   exfatguy   2022 Jun 14, 8:07pm  

When bay area houses start sitting on the market with no offers, then I'll believe this. For everyone leaving, it seems many are lined up to take their place.
113   Patrick   2022 Jun 22, 10:21am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/sunshine-state-of-mind-florida/


Florida has internalized the lesson of Texas. You can’t build something worthwhile and then surrender it to people who, although they are escaping a place that has begun to collapse, show no evidence of understanding why that collapse is happening. People move for all kinds of reasons, like weather or taxes. Not all of them realize the role they, and their votes, may have played in creating the chaos in their rearview mirrors. So far, the influx of people to Florida is indeed “voting right.” For the first time ever, registered Republicans outnumber registered Democrats in Florida, by over 100,000.

It’s impossible to highlight Florida’s renaissance without mentioning its governor. Ron DeSantis’s election was a twist of fate for the state. In 2018, he beat Democrat Andrew Gillum by a little over 32,000 votes, or 0.4 percent, and in an election Gillum was predicted to win. Two years later Gillum was found by police in a Miami hotel with two men, one an overdosing male prostitute. Pictures of Gillum naked and passed out in his own vomit soon emerged. Florida dodged quite a bullet. ...

DeSantis’s decision to traverse a different path during the pandemic has made him a star. It wasn’t just that he zigged when everyone else zagged, reopening after only a very short and quite relaxed lockdown; it’s that he took seriously the responsibility to his state to not blindly follow information that made no sense. He prioritized normalcy, especially for kids, and this was a major contributing factor for so many making the move.
114   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jun 22, 10:23am  

exfatguy says

When bay area houses start sitting on the market with no offers, then I'll believe this.

It is happening. Sudden turn of events coinciding with interest rate rise.
115   WookieMan   2022 Jun 22, 10:43am  

Patrick says

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10912339/Thousands-flock-Mexico-escaping-crippling-cost-living-Biden-Governor-Gavin-Newsom.html







I've only hit Tijuana as a kid Pacific side of Mexico, which is not real Mexico. I'd live in Mexico in a heartbeat now that I have the cash though versus CA. I love our country, but fear it's going to shit relatively quickly.

I'm a bigger guy though, and no that won't stop a cartel gunman, but I wouldn't be dabbling in that realm. So likely would be totally fine. Never have had an issue in my 10 or so visits to Mexico. Never felt unsafe. Fact is where I worked in Chicago is likely more dangerous than Mexico doing legal employment. The cartels are dangerous as fuck, but if you're not involved in their business there's little positive that's comes from killing a gringo minding their own business.

I'm a Caribbean guy at heart. The Pacific is beautiful, but it's just not my jam for some reason. I've done the coastal states (WA, OR & CA) and Costa Rica on the Pacific side. Also, as silly as it sounds, I prefer living in the Eastern/Central time zones. If you have the cash you can live down in PR, USVI, MX, etc. for pretty cheap. PR being the cheapest if you're a high income worker because of tax reasons. I want a place on St. John, USVI as a potential retirement home, PR would be fine as well. Hurricanes are my biggest beef with the Caribbean.
116   Booger   2022 Jun 23, 3:25pm  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ken-griffins-citadel-move-punch-195714878.html

Citadel Move Is 'Punch in the Gut' for Chicago

Chicago has suffered a series of corporate departures recently, but Ken Griffin leaving the city might sting the most.

The hedge fund billionaire said Thursday that he’s moving the home base of Citadel, the financial behemoth he founded in Chicago more than three decades ago, to Miami. Griffin hinted for months that he might make the move, citing the crime rate and political frustrations with leadership in Illinois.

The nation’s third-most populous city has seen a 34% rise in crime this year, with cases of thefts up 65%, according to year-to-date data on the Chicago Police Department’s website. Chicago’s Magnificent Mile and State Street shopping districts, along with many restaurants in the downtown Loop, have yet to fully recover from the pandemic. Even the National Football League’s Bears franchise is considering an exit to the suburbs.

Griffin, the richest man in the state with a net worth of more than $28 billion, has repeatedly voiced his concerns about the surge in crime throughout the pandemic in Chicago. He’s also regularly expressed frustrations with the operations and policies of the state under Democratic Governor J.B. Pritzker, a billionaire Democrat seeking re-election in November, as well as voters’ lack of trust in government.
117   Booger   2022 Jun 28, 5:55pm  

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/chevron-selling-bay-area-headquarters-17268695.php

Chevron selling Bay Area headquarters, paying for employees relocate to Houston
118   clambo   2022 Jun 28, 9:28pm  

Today I went to the Home Depot in La Paz.
In the lot I saw a 4x4 Toyota pickup with various Santa Cruz stickers on it.

I talked to the owner as he walked by; he moved to Baja California Sur Mexico from Santa Cruz full time a couple of years ago.

Another guy came down from Santa Cruz a year ago to open a little restaurant/bar downtown.

There’s a woman on YouTube who moved to Matzatlan from Santa Cruz several years ago, Janet Blazer.
CNBC interviewed her. She mentioned the impossibility of owning a place in Santa Cruz as a reason to move to Mexico.

Personally I am glad I am not a female trying to live in Mexico, it’s a man’s world there.
119   Booger   2022 Jul 24, 3:01pm  

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/your-problem-now-illinois-gov-j-b-pritzker-celebrates-rich-fleeing-his-state-for-florida/

‘Your Problem Now’: Illinois Gov J.B. Pritzker Celebrates GOP Billionaires Fleeing His State for Florida
120   Ceffer   2022 Jul 24, 3:05pm  

"You don't turn a place into an absolute cesspool and shithole and hold absolute power with a bunch of rich guys around paying taxes that have to be put into public works but can't be stolen and diverted to apparatchiks."
121   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2022 Jul 24, 7:54pm  

2 months and counting...
122   zzyzzx   2022 Jul 25, 5:31am  

Louis Rossmann is moving his company out of NY to Texas.
123   zzyzzx   2022 Aug 2, 11:18am  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/geico-closes-all-california-offices-lays-off-workers-report/ar-AA10ci55

GEICO closes all California offices, lays off workers

GEICO has reportedly closed all 38 of its agent offices in California, laid off hundreds of employees, and will no longer sell insurance through telephone agents in the state.
124   WookieMan   2022 Aug 2, 12:04pm  

Booger says

The nation’s third-most populous city has seen a 34% rise in crime this year, with cases of thefts up 65%, according to year-to-date data on the Chicago Police Department’s website.

CPD suicides too and them leaving since they're required to live in the city. So the tax base continues to get smaller. This is going to become more common across the country in even red states. There's little to no reason to live in a city anymore. A lot of the cops are coming out to the burbs, taking a paycut, but they don't have to live in the city they work in and it's lower cost of living.

Griffin's boy (mine too) didn't win the Republican primary in June. I think the crime thing is overstated, it is way up, but it's still a mostly safe city, just war zone pockets. I won't go as I just don't like it anymore. Airport or free tickets to playoffs for an actual winning team in Chicago would be the only other reason. Otherwise it's just an overpriced, congested and yes crime ridden city. I feel that way about almost all cities above 1M population that I visit.

Also not sure how much Citadel actually employed in Chicago/IL. Obviously there were employees in Chicago, but my guess is most the high earners (sales) were in CA, NY, FL and TX. Probably was mostly admin here in IL besides a few board people, accountants and lawyers.
126   zzyzzx   2022 Aug 30, 10:36am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/california-approves-bill-could-punish-155856954.html

California approves bill that could punish doctors for spreading false COVID-19 claims

Yahoo Finance's Anjalee Khemlani discusses a new California bill that could revoke medical licensing for doctors that spread COVID-19 misinformation.
127   Ceffer   2022 Aug 30, 11:35am  

zzyzzx says

California approves bill that could punish doctors for spreading false COVID-19 claims

So what happens when they get these things to court, and it is easy to demonstrate Covid has never been isolated or cultured, there are no samples available for research, and the PCR tests used to diagnose it were panned by the Nobel Prize winner who invented the technology? This is stupid because a brainwashed and bribed bureaucrat's OPINION on Covid is the standard for what is and isn't false about Covid fraud.
128   Bd6r   2022 Aug 30, 3:21pm  

zzyzzx says

California approves bill that could punish doctors for spreading false COVID-19 claims

Such as that "if you get jab, you will not get covid", "jab is safe and effective", etc???
130   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 8, 1:21pm  

They now advertise Ilinois in BART.





Trying to lure libby fucks who hate Prop 13?
131   Bd6r   2022 Sep 8, 4:46pm  

Eric Holder says

They now advertise Ilinois in BART.

They should move to Illinois. It is nice, great new laws:

133   Ceffer   2022 Sep 8, 6:13pm  

Spending two weeks in Chicago earns you an automatic Purple Heart.
135   GNL   2022 Sep 9, 5:37am  

Ceffer says

So what happens when they get these things to court, and it is easy to demonstrate Covid has never been isolated or cultured, there are no samples available for research, and the PCR tests used to diagnose it were panned by the Nobel Prize winner who invented the technology?

Uh huh, and when, exactly, are they going to get these things to court?
136   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 9, 8:18am  

Bd6r says


Eric Holder says


They now advertise Ilinois in BART.

They should move to Illinois. It is nice, great new laws:





But no free shopping sprees up to $950? That's a shame. Illinois is slipping...
137   Ceffer   2022 Sep 9, 12:50pm  

What's a middle class person to do. Plundered by the fraudulent fecal impaction Guv on top and by the deputized rabble on the bottom.
138   AmericanKulak   2022 Sep 9, 1:17pm  

Eric Holder says

Bd6r says



Eric Holder says



They now advertise Ilinois in BART.

They should move to Illinois. It is nice, great new laws:






But no free shopping sprees up to $950? That's a shame. Illinois is slipping...

Also part of destabilization campaigns: Reduce prosecution of criminals and let NON-political, violent criminals out.
139   Bd6r   2022 Sep 9, 1:24pm  

AmericanKulak says

Reduce prosecution of criminals and let NON-political, violent criminals out.

Same as early Soviet policies of 1917-1920.
143   AD   2022 Oct 6, 9:52pm  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_credit_rating

Illinois and New Jersey have same credit ratings which are near junk bond levels.

Its been downhill since 2008 (great recession) for Illinois.

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146   mell   2022 Oct 7, 3:23pm  

Have to say while likely far more dangerous, Chicago was quite much cleaner than SF. Had a decent time at the mile recently, could be a great city without pricker and lightfoot and leftoids/demonrats
147   WookieMan   2022 Oct 7, 3:55pm  

mell says

Have to say while likely far more dangerous, Chicago was quite much cleaner than SF. Had a decent time at the mile recently, could be a great city without pricker and lightfoot amd leftoids/demonrats

I LOVED the city (Chicago), but it legitimately is dangerous as fuck. Even in the tourist areas now. SF might be dirtier, but the criminal element in Chicago is no fucking joke. The decline is sad.

I've legit been on probably 60-70% of the blocks in Chicago. I would dress down and drive a shitty car in my last 3-4 years working there. Cops are killing themselves and retiring early to get out. Going on a cruise in January with two of them for a 40th birthday (bunch of those lately) so I'll get some time to pick their brains. They can leave at 48 I believe and they're out asap when that time hits. They'll do a suburban gig.

The decline of cities I think is way worse than most people realize. It's not just CA, IL, NY, NJ. It's any major citiy.
148   RC2006   2022 Oct 7, 5:20pm  

WookieMan says

The decline of cities I think is way worse than most people realize. It's not just CA, IL, NY, NJ. It's any major citiy.


The US is declining. Our large cities are just the tumors of a bigger problem.

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