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Russia Has The Capability To Take 95% Of The World Internet Capacity Off Line
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2022 Nov 5, 5:57am 904 views 18 comments
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WookieMan
2022 Nov 5, 7:16am
WookieMan
2022 Nov 5, 7:16am
ohomen171 says
Would being cut off from the rest of the world be that awful? Also, if you run a business you're a simple moron if you're running anything on servers across an ocean anyway if from this hemisphere. I'm talking business, a site like Patnet should probably be hosted in a different country. If shit hits the fan as a business, you can still rely on the American consumer if your servers are here.
Also, sorry about the dog. I know you don't respond often, but you've said you do read comments. Lost one this year myself. It sucks.
China and Russia, in contrast, use land-based internet cable to send most of their internet traffic. Putin has a powerful tool to threaten the west with. Policymakers in the West are going to have to find a way to defend these sensitive and vulnerable cables.
Would being cut off from the rest of the world be that awful? Also, if you run a business you're a simple moron if you're running anything on servers across an ocean anyway if from this hemisphere. I'm talking business, a site like Patnet should probably be hosted in a different country. If shit hits the fan as a business, you can still rely on the American consumer if your servers are here.
Also, sorry about the dog. I know you don't respond often, but you've said you do read comments. Lost one this year myself. It sucks.
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Michael Cooke
2022 Nov 5, 9:40am
Russia won't do that. Hacking is essential. If Russia cut the cables they would be hurting themselves.
I prefer the typical Russians attitudes on American Mortages:
"Unlike Americans who for decades have willingly taken on 30-year mortgages to buy housing, Russians have largely balked at the notion. Even when young families were offered a $10,000 credit, roughly a year's wages and the equivalent of $60,000 in the U.S., toward the down payment for a house, Zavisca said there was little interest.
"Few Russians are willing to take out mortgages because the risk of foreclosure is unacceptable, and because they view interest payments which they call overpayments as unfair". As one Russian put it: "To enter into a mortgage is to become a slave for 30 years, with the bank as your master.'"
:) :) :)
I prefer the typical Russians attitudes on American Mortages:
"Unlike Americans who for decades have willingly taken on 30-year mortgages to buy housing, Russians have largely balked at the notion. Even when young families were offered a $10,000 credit, roughly a year's wages and the equivalent of $60,000 in the U.S., toward the down payment for a house, Zavisca said there was little interest.
"Few Russians are willing to take out mortgages because the risk of foreclosure is unacceptable, and because they view interest payments which they call overpayments as unfair". As one Russian put it: "To enter into a mortgage is to become a slave for 30 years, with the bank as your master.'"
:) :) :)
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Hircus
2022 Nov 5, 2:07pm
Hircus
2022 Nov 5, 2:07pm
Back when I went into the office everyday, and frequently went out to lunch with a large variety of cowokers (most of them young techies), I was surprised at how almost none of them carried cash. But they all had credit cards, and a variety of cash apps on their phones.
I drilled some of them once, asking why they didn't carry any cash. I wasn't questioning why they may prefer to pay w/ credit or app, I was wondering why they don't carry cash. Most of the answers were just like "why would I?". I think for many, they just dont think a massive outage or catastrophe could ever occur. Nevermind a personal emergency situation where you may need to pay someone.
I usually carry a stack of mostly hundreds, and a few smaller bills for emergencies. I carry a wallet anyway, and adding some cash into it adds very little weight or thickness. I had a larger cash reserve at home for a while, but used it, and now that I think about it, need to replenish it. Odds are that if I suddenly think I need lots of cash, many other people have the same idea, and banks will run dry if they can even run at all.
I don't know when it will be, but America's next war will surely involve attacks on electronic systems. Society has been at peacetime for decades while the electronic tech revolution has rolled out, and it will hurt badly when this rug gets yanked out from under us. To me, it seems unlikely that such events wont happen over the remainder of my life.
I drilled some of them once, asking why they didn't carry any cash. I wasn't questioning why they may prefer to pay w/ credit or app, I was wondering why they don't carry cash. Most of the answers were just like "why would I?". I think for many, they just dont think a massive outage or catastrophe could ever occur. Nevermind a personal emergency situation where you may need to pay someone.
I usually carry a stack of mostly hundreds, and a few smaller bills for emergencies. I carry a wallet anyway, and adding some cash into it adds very little weight or thickness. I had a larger cash reserve at home for a while, but used it, and now that I think about it, need to replenish it. Odds are that if I suddenly think I need lots of cash, many other people have the same idea, and banks will run dry if they can even run at all.
I don't know when it will be, but America's next war will surely involve attacks on electronic systems. Society has been at peacetime for decades while the electronic tech revolution has rolled out, and it will hurt badly when this rug gets yanked out from under us. To me, it seems unlikely that such events wont happen over the remainder of my life.
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Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:45pm
Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:45pm
Hircus says
Exactly!
They haven't experienced such things, so they don't think they're possible.
It's similar to the problem with everyone getting dependent on Google, Twitter, etc. When the plandemic was unleashed, those companies went really bad, suppressing free speech on a massive scale, and a lot of the users were really unprepared for it.
The good news is that people get older and experience or hear about things like the peaceful Canadian truckers getting all their bank accounts closed, they start to think about alternatives, and the evil of being utterly dependent on centralized authorities.
I think for many, they just dont think a massive outage or catastrophe could ever occur.
Exactly!
They haven't experienced such things, so they don't think they're possible.
It's similar to the problem with everyone getting dependent on Google, Twitter, etc. When the plandemic was unleashed, those companies went really bad, suppressing free speech on a massive scale, and a lot of the users were really unprepared for it.
The good news is that people get older and experience or hear about things like the peaceful Canadian truckers getting all their bank accounts closed, they start to think about alternatives, and the evil of being utterly dependent on centralized authorities.
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Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:47pm
Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:47pm
Michael Cooke says
Wow, the Russians are more based that I expected. Good on them.
"Few Russians are willing to take out mortgages because the risk of foreclosure is unacceptable, and because they view interest payments which they call overpayments as unfair". As one Russian put it: "To enter into a mortgage is to become a slave for 30 years, with the bank as your master.'"
Wow, the Russians are more based that I expected. Good on them.
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Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:52pm
Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:52pm
WookieMan says
Right, there are arguments in both directions.
1. You do want at least back-up servers across the ocean now that the US government has proven itself little better than a 3rd world country's by engaging in massive systematic censorship via tech companies.
2. Servers across the ocean are still subject to being shut down or cut off for various reasons like those local governments and undersea cable problems. Also, latencies are noticeably higher if your servers are far away, like Iceland.
Would being cut off from the rest of the world be that awful? Also, if you run a business you're a simple moron if you're running anything on servers across an ocean anyway if from this hemisphere. I'm talking business, a site like Patnet should probably be hosted in a different country. If shit hits the fan as a business, you can still rely on the American consumer if your servers are here.
Right, there are arguments in both directions.
1. You do want at least back-up servers across the ocean now that the US government has proven itself little better than a 3rd world country's by engaging in massive systematic censorship via tech companies.
2. Servers across the ocean are still subject to being shut down or cut off for various reasons like those local governments and undersea cable problems. Also, latencies are noticeably higher if your servers are far away, like Iceland.
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Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:53pm
Patrick
2022 Nov 5, 2:53pm
BTW, I actually look forward to the responses to ohomen171 threads now because there are usually some nice photos in them.
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2022 Nov 5, 9:26pm
Patrick says
only reason i do too lol
BTW, I actually look forward to the responses to ohomen171 threads now because there are usually some nice photos in them.
only reason i do too lol
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HeadSet
2022 Nov 6, 7:13am
HeadSet
2022 Nov 6, 7:13am
Patrick says
Yes, that chicken fucker has a nice truck.
BTW, I actually look forward to the responses to ohomen171 threads now because there are usually some nice photos in them.
Yes, that chicken fucker has a nice truck.
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GNL
2022 Nov 6, 8:42am
GNL
2022 Nov 6, 8:42am
cisTits says
Ya got to stop posting this girl. She's hot!! Seriously, I did a girl like that back in high school and still think about it to this day.
Ya got to stop posting this girl. She's hot!! Seriously, I did a girl like that back in high school and still think about it to this day.
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WookieMan
2022 Nov 6, 9:05am
WookieMan
2022 Nov 6, 9:05am
GNL says
I've got to disagree. Not sure if it's sarcasm. The facial features are hideous. Fine if it was a good lay, but I'd run far from a chick that looked like that. Bodies and being in shape matter, but if I am disgusted by your face I'm out. She looks like her mom drank too much while she was pregnant... let's put it that way. Maybe a touch of heroin/meth. And no, not joking.
Ya got to stop posting this girl. She's hot!! Seriously, I did a girl like that back in high school and still think about it to this day.
I've got to disagree. Not sure if it's sarcasm. The facial features are hideous. Fine if it was a good lay, but I'd run far from a chick that looked like that. Bodies and being in shape matter, but if I am disgusted by your face I'm out. She looks like her mom drank too much while she was pregnant... let's put it that way. Maybe a touch of heroin/meth. And no, not joking.
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GNL
2022 Nov 6, 10:54am
GNL
2022 Nov 6, 10:54am
WookieMan says
Dirty looking girls turn me on. Couldn't tell you why. I'd seriously hit that.
GNL says
Ya got to stop posting this girl. She's hot!! Seriously, I did a girl like that back in high school and still think about it to this day.
I've got to disagree. Not sure if it's sarcasm. The facial features are hideous. Fine if it was a good lay, but I'd run far from a chick that looked like that. Bodies and being in shape matter, but if I am disgusted by your face I'm out. She looks like her mom drank too much while she was pregnant... let's put it that way. Maybe a touch of heroin/meth. And no, not joking.
Dirty looking girls turn me on. Couldn't tell you why. I'd seriously hit that.
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WookieMan
2022 Nov 6, 11:43am
WookieMan
2022 Nov 6, 11:43am
GNL says
Not a judgement of you. That gal is just not my jam. As long as someone isn't a pedophile or rapist, I'd say go have fun and get your kink on however you like it.
Dirty looking girls turn me on. Couldn't tell you why. I'd seriously hit that.
Not a judgement of you. That gal is just not my jam. As long as someone isn't a pedophile or rapist, I'd say go have fun and get your kink on however you like it.
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HeadSet
2022 Nov 6, 12:07pm
HeadSet
2022 Nov 6, 12:07pm
GNL says
Same here. She may not be cute faced, but she looks like fun. Besides, she has a cute bow, which is what you will be seeing as you look at the top of her head.
Couldn't tell you why. I'd seriously hit that.
Same here. She may not be cute faced, but she looks like fun. Besides, she has a cute bow, which is what you will be seeing as you look at the top of her head.
Regardless of the grief, as the old saying goes: "The show must go on." We have a couple of mysteries from the last few weeks that I want to make you aware of. Two cables providing internet services to the Shetland Islands in far north Scotland were cut. When this happened, a Russian research ship was nearby. Likewise, when the Nord Stream pipeline was blown in three areas, Russian vessels are nearby.
Each day some $10 trillion US dollars in financial transactions are sent over the internet. 95% of internet activities go through undersea cables. There are some 200 cables around the world. There are 10 choke points around the world where internet traffic could be disrupted or turned off. Russia has research ships and special nuclear submarines that act as mother ships to smaller submarines tasked to cut international internet service. We do not have a similar capability. We have not spent the money to defend these vulnerable cables.
China and Russia, in contrast, use land-based internet cable to send most of their internet traffic. Putin has a powerful tool to threaten the west with. Policymakers in the West are going to have to find a way to defend these sensitive and vulnerable cables.