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AmericanKulak says

I'm asking Elon Musk to ban Taylor Lorenz for "Doxing", since she doxxed LibsofTikToks' entire family, a forum operator lady who works at a WaWa in Ohio or someshit, and many "Not public figures" with a PhpBB forum

Nobody should be banned.

richwicks says

AmericanKulak says

I'm asking Elon Musk to ban Taylor Lorenz for "Doxing", since she doxxed LibsofTikToks' entire family, a forum operator lady who works at a WaWa in Ohio or someshit, and many "Not public figures" with a PhpBB forum

Nobody should be banned.

Nobody should starve to death either. If Alex Jones would join patrick.net tomorrow and the immediate threat of extending the civil damages to be partially recouped from Patrick would follow, Patrick may have to ban him. Musk already wasted 20 billions easily, do not think for a minute that the richest man is untouchable. More often than not you have to start with baby steps. Until he figures out a path to profitability or break even at least he will probably tread more carefully

richwicks says

AmericanKulak says

I'm asking Elon Musk to ban Taylor Lorenz for "Doxing", since she doxxed LibsofTikToks' entire family, a forum operator lady who works at a WaWa in Ohio or someshit, and many "Not public figures" with a PhpBB forum

Nobody should be banned.

So go vote in Elon's General Amnesty for all suspended accounts
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595473875847942146?s=20&t=H8O54eaeWoPEhYziLFaQOA

mell says

Until he figures out a path to profitability or break even at least he will probably tread more carefully

Rome wasn't destroyed in a day, and it won't be fixed in a day, a week, a month, or probably a few years.

Elon already said the deal that NGOs would get a say in return for not pressuring advertisers is over, since many advertisers told him they were leaving because those Lying, Deceitful NGOs decieved Elon, pressuring Advertisers to leave while pretending to cooperate.

mell says

Nobody should starve to death either. If Alex Jones would join patrick.net tomorrow and the immediate threat of extending the civil damages to be partially recouped from Patrick would follow, Patrick may have to ban him. Musk already wasted 20 billions easily, do not think for a minute that the richest man is untouchable. More often than not you have to start with baby steps. Until he figures out a path to profitability or break even at least he will probably tread more carefully

I can appreciate your hope with Twitter, but I know it's a headfake. In time you'll see. It's not just Alex Jones that is being banned. Journalists (real ones) are banned, anti-war advocates are banned. Twitter's job is propaganda, not information. That's how it BEGAN.

And it doesn't have to become profitable, the government will ensure it makes enough money.

AmericanKulak says

So go vote in Elon's General Amnesty for all suspended accounts
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595473875847942146?s=20&t=H8O54eaeWoPEhYziLFaQOA

I will never sign up to Twitter, or Facebook.

Musk introduces new shirt for employees

Not even a week.

Now we know why the Trans Pervs and Leftoids are the madz.

The most pissed off person this week is probably Andrew Torba.

Meet Twitter Safety Officer "Melissa". She's a guy, of course.



Followed by a fat gay professor with the standard wannabe tough guy bald head and beard.

AmericanKulak says

Meet Twitter Safety Officer "Melissa". She's a guy, of course.



Followed by a fat gay professor with the standard wannabe tough guy bald head and beard.

It's funny he believes that Twitter will become "more abusive, and more extreme" - probably he's correct. If he is, it will increase user engagement. More than 90% of the time I posted on youtube, it was to correct what I believed was an incorrect statement or sentiment. Today, I hardly post there ever, since my posts are so often deleted, sometimes edited, and the people that remain I don't believe really can be reached anyhow. There's also no subjects really worth commenting on.

How I'm feeling about Twitter:

Feelin' Groovy with Liberace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_rHSTjyWNk

Alright, everything's cooked and I'm going to bed so I can get up later and eat it all.

On that note: Sargon of Akkad aka Carl Benjamin, is back:

Today on Thanksgiving Musk PARDON TWETTER accounts.

What does Elon know that we don't?
Are affirmative Action employment practices now obsolete?
Are Racial Quotas still required, when so many companies seem to have a higher ratio of POC employees?
Are diversity officers still required to run a business?

Surely if the courts have given me as a business owner, the authority and power, to demand you take a shot of untested poison to work there, and force you to wear a surgical mask at all times. Then surely they don't have consider any of those other personal attribute work requirements, as people are not valued as human beings at all, and the employer can do and have you do as he damn well pleases. If you don't like it, then do what people have done for tens of thousands of years, tell your boss to "Take this Job and Shove it!"

The Boss doesn't have to kiss your ass, the trick is to find a Boss that doesn't expect you to kiss his ass.

I wonder all of this, because surely if Elon is ever going to recoup his 40 billion dollar investment, Twitter will have to go back to hiring on sensible people, who are competent at the job they are given. Stop running the company like an Adult daycare facility, massaging Twenty something's feelings and egos. Because if all of the stuff I I mentioned before are still forced upon entrepreneurs to hire the least capable idiots to meet mandated guidelines, then surely he will in short order be right back to where he started from. Because the new hires will all be sick twisted entitled morons as well.

Tenpoundbass says

What does Elon know that we don't?
Are affirmative Action employment practices now obsolete?
Are Racial Quotas still required, when so many companies seem to have a higher ratio of POC employees?
Are diversity officers still required to run a business?

Musk is part of the military industrial complex, and has made his money by taking it from the government. His businesses are either heavily subsidized (Tesla) or entirely subsidized (Space-X) by government.

He doesn't have the rules and restrictions that other people do.

People are, I think (time will tell!), drastically over-estimating how he will run Twitter. Twitter BEGAN as a propaganda site. It's always elevated talking heads, vacuous celebrities, and other riff-raff garbage. Who is a "twitter star"? Anybody authentic that rose up the ranks?

The "narrative" has been lost, people are more and more ignoring "authorities", Twitter needs some lipstick put on it, some added credibility, and to be streamlined.

Parler was about to kill it and take on Twitter - to prevent this, Amazon STOLE THEIR CODE (they foolishly placed it all on AWS servers), and they were shut out from payment processing. Musk is in there not to make Twitter a site for open debate, but to make it APPEAR he will. It's a trap.

richwicks says

People are, I think (time will tell!), drastically over-estimating how he will run Twitter.

Great assessment, and by the way he botched his take over, by waffling on key issues, and asking Twitter if he should do this or do that. I'm losing hope as well.
Twitter is the way it is, because all of the Twitter idiots demanding that Twitter got rid of people who call them out on their woke nonsense, and lack of critical thinking.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/a-light-in-the-darkness/

The really stunning thing about Elon Musk’s campaign to clean up the back-stage rats’ nest at Twitter is that he’s the lone authority figure in the land who dared to act against the degenerate political Left’s impudent and remorseless cancellation of everything that held together America’s consensual reality.

Think of it: all the college presidents and deans, all the corporate CEOs, all the judges, all the governors, mayors, and agency heads, all the news editors and network producers who did nothing and said nothing about the wholesale demolition of truths, values, and principles carried out by Woke-Jacobin maniacs under their watch. And what’s more appalling: they all pretended not to notice each other’s craven inaction and silence.

And now, Mr. Musk strikes a blow almost every day, and with amazing insouciance, as if his effort to re-ignite free speech is the most self-evidently natural thing anyone in-charge might seek to do. And let’s face it: whatever Twitter started out as, however seemingly trivial this Internet app for social chit-chat was conceived to be, it evolved into an essential arena for public argument — especially as the old leaders in the American news business slouched into routinely retailing every sort of lie possible about public affairs that matter. (And as that happened, Twitter became for a number of years Mainstream Media’s enabler and chief enforcer of programatized untruth.)

So far, it’s hard to fault Mr. Musk’s performance just a little short of one month after taking ownership of Twitter. He acted swiftly to find the locus of rot in the company, and swept out thousands of petty tyrannical censors competing for Woke brownie points squashing free inquiry. He explained his actions plainly, without ornament, in Twitter’s own concise format. He laid out his own doubts and quandaries about a moderation board to establish responsible limits of fairness. He put important questions of procedure, such as yesterday’s proposed general amnesty for suspended accounts, to a vote. He did all this with wry humor based on an appreciation of how absurd Twitter’s internal culture had become. ...

It’s hard to overstate how damaging Twitter’s dark years of insidiously massaging public opinion have been to this country. Open debate could have clarified the fog of deliberate disinformation surrounding everything Covid-19. It would have been much harder for public health officialdom to gaslight America over the origin of the disease, and probably impossible to conceal the nefarious operations behind the Emergency Use Authorization, the suppression of effective early treatments, and the direct ties to drug companies’ profits. The result of that has been the broad deployment of dangerous and deadly pseudo-vaccines that have killed millions and disabled many more. The absence of honest debate has turned doctors into murderers and accomplices to genocide.

The scope of this bureaucratic crime is really outside the experience of most Americans, who never imagined that their elected and appointed leaders would act against them with such rank dishonesty, cruelty, and bad faith. But there it is. And if Twitter continues to open up, the more likely that the responsible parties will be held accountable. ...

Nothing else so far has confronted the Left’s crusade to overturn American life so stoutly as Elon Musk’s reform of Twitter. It seems to be working. The Wokesters are acting like a gang on-the-run. Pretty soon they’ll be ratting out each other to save their skins. Reality is a harsh mistress when you’ve spent years insulting and mistreating her.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/musk-to-start-creating-smartphones-if-apple-google-remove-twitter-from-app-stores?spot_im_redirect_source=pitc

Twitter CEO Elon Musk said Friday that he will start to create smartphones if Apple and Google remove Twitter from their app stores, a move that would be highly damaging to the social media company.

Musk’s remarks came in response to a tweet from political commentator Liz Wheeler, who wrote: “If Apple & Google boot Twitter from their app stores, @elonmusk should produce his own smartphone.”

“Half the country would happily ditch the biased, snooping iPhone & Android,” she said. “The man builds rockets to Mars, a silly little smartphone should be easy, right?”

Musk responded, “I certainly hope it does not come to that, but, yes, if there is no other choice, I will make an alternative phone.”

Patrick says

Musk responded, “I certainly hope it does not come to that, but, yes, if there is no other choice, I will make an alternative phone.”

It would still need a carrier network though, right? Pretty Sure Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile are all woke so he would have to use StarLink if feasible.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/i/status/1596228423227420672

The leading agitators for online censorship insist it's needed to prevent hateful messages from circulating, since those incite rage and violence.

Just go check what they tweet all day. It's a never-ending flow of vicious hatred against their enemies, deliberately inciting rage.

The most-quoted person over the last 48 hours by liberal media outlets demanding more censorship on Twitter - and demanding Google and Apple remove them if they don't obey - is the trans activist @Esqueer_, one of the most relentlessly hateful people on this site. Look at this:

Caraballo is insinuating Mormons and Republicans are likely to produce non-binary mass murderers. Imagine the potential that has to incite violence toward Mormons.

But they think their hatred, their attacks and calumnies, are noble. Hateful insults by The Enlightened are sacred.
Every one of these media liberals demanding censorship to prevent "hatred" against the marginalized regularly spew vile, enraged insult at me, and against so many others. I'm fair game: I sought a public platform.

But they can't be "hateful." Only their political enemies can be.
What these people demand is a caste system: nothing more or less than that.

They demand a system where they are free to spew the most hateful, inciting attacks against whomever they deem their adversaries.

But nobody can criticize them: that's "harassment," incitement, etc.

Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
Nov 25
The establishment media is angry at @elonmusk because:
— Twitter is no longer under the control of the establishment and its activist allies
— He implemented meritocratic policies and fired their friends who “worked” at Twitter
— The public can now openly question the narrative

LOL, Torba had his predictable Tantrum over Musk. The guy who bans people for making legit criticism about site functionality, privacy, etc. of his site, bans people on a whim he doesn't like arbitrarily, and seemingly has endless funds to keep Gab open when Voat failed despite millions of investor infusions (though his parents declared bankruptcy, and the only official cash he got in Scholarships and Grants from Jesuit Colleges and Banks must be long gone).

And his useful idiots (don't even get paid!) and Fedbois and brigading for him.

AmericanKulak says

LOL, Torba had his predictable Tantrum over Musk. The guy who bans people for making legit criticism about site functionality, privacy, etc. of his site, bans people on a whim he doesn't like arbitrarily, and seemingly has endless funds to keep Gab open when Voat failed despite millions of investor infusions (though his parents declared bankruptcy, and the only official cash he got in Scholarships and Grants from Jesuit Colleges and Banks must be long gone).

And his useful idiots (don't even get paid!) and Fedbois and brigading for him.

Competition can only be good, the more the better. It's what makes capitalism successful

This is the person the WaPo, Axios, etc. quoted to justify the dangers of free speech, violent rhetoric, etc on Twitter:

Patrick says

Shouldn't it be tilted to the left?



Be cautious, as you cannot be certain that a government welfare whore, which is what Elon Musk is, will correct it. He may TALK about it, but wait and see.

The game is more difficult for the team on the lower side.

richwicks says

a government welfare whore, which is what Elon Musk is,

He did develop rockets that land themselves, he has captured most of the commercial launch market, and he has created a car company that produces hundreds of thousands of vehicles annually. He might benefit from some government hand-outs, but it doesn't seem like that is his primary business. By your standards, is there anyone who makes a lot of money who is not a welfare whore and can instead be described as a producer of wealth?

yawaraf says

He did develop rockets that land themselves,

This was done by Lockheed Martin in the 1980s - late 80s.

yawaraf says

and he has created a car company that produces hundreds of thousands of vehicles annually.

He did NOT create this. Electric vehicles are just natural gas and coal powered vehicles, and their batteries are made from 3rd world slave labor.

yawaraf says

He might benefit from some government hand-outs, but it doesn't seem like that is his primary business

Oh no, he's absolutely a welfare whore. He wouldn't exist without government subsidies. Electric cars could NEVER compete against internal combustion engines without the government. It really makes no economic sense, and in time, that will be shown. Gasoline and diesel is taxed, electricity for EVs are subsidized. I pay for some asshole to use electric vehicles, so do you.

yawaraf says

By your standards, is there anyone who makes a lot of money who is not a welfare whore and can instead be described as a producer of wealth?

I do not know at this point. I really don't. You tell me.

I am fearful that we aren't just about to be a communist nation, but we already are one.

Centralization is, just stupid. I think in the 1980's we had real people, but today? I don't know. I view Facebook to be an intelligence effort, I view Twitter as being purposeful propaganda (and I don't think Elon will fix this), I view Google as an intelligence gathering corporation.

I do not know. I live and work in Silly Con Valley, I hear rumors, can't be POSITIVE they are true, but they seem to be true. We're infested with the intelligence agencies. I think we are centrally controlled already.

I'd be curios to have more information about Lockheed Martin's rockets that land. I've never heard of them before.

Can you provide some data to support your welfare whore assertion? For example for Tesla and SpaceX, what revenue did they have in 2021 and how much of that was from the government?

yawaraf says

I'd be curios to have more information about Lockheed Martin's rockets that land. I've never heard of them before.

Can you provide some data to support your welfare whore assertion? For example for Tesla and SpaceX, what revenue did they have in 2021 and how much of that was from the government?

NO - it was over 30 years ago. I used to care about this bullshit, and now, I don't even have the energy to look it up.

Here is a wikipedia article on the technology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTVL

Nothing really amazing about it. It's been around forever.