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Little Chernobyl Happening in East Palestine, Ohio Right Now


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2023 Feb 13, 8:25am   46,576 views  313 comments

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Spoke with my sister who lives in western Michigan yesterday, told her to be careful. This is completely fucked:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ohios-apocalyptic-chemical-disaster-rages



Toxic train wreck.

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209   AmericanKulak   2023 Feb 24, 6:57am  

Note no large companies are offering any help or concern. Not Walmart, Cabella's, etc.

That's because Trump Voters are the Enemy, and "Real Americans" are anybody BUT White, Working Class People.
210   NuttBoxer   2023 Feb 24, 8:21am  

Just counting aquatic animals and fish, Ohio officials estimate death toll over 43,000.
https://people.com/pets/ohio-train-derailment-leaves-over-43000-aquatic-animals-dead/
211   GreaterNYCDude   2023 Feb 24, 12:53pm  

Is anyone doing a toxicology report on the fish to see what was in their system?
212   AD   2023 Feb 24, 2:20pm  

GreaterNYCDude says

Is anyone doing a toxicology report on the fish to see what was in their system?


That is what I was thinking about comprehensive testing including medical forensics when they were reporting also about chickens dying.

They also need to be monitoring groundwater for at least the next 5 years.

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214   richwicks   2023 Feb 24, 5:01pm  

NuttBoxer says

Just counting aquatic animals and fish, Ohio officials estimate death toll over 43,000.
https://people.com/pets/ohio-train-derailment-leaves-over-43000-aquatic-animals-dead/


Pfft, I think that's a major underestimation. It's a number that's high enough that people will take notice, but not so high that it would be alarming. I'm sure the real number is alarming.

But who knows, however, I am familiar with how the government downplays anything that can be associated with one of their gross errors.
215   GreaterNYCDude   2023 Feb 24, 5:22pm  

There are multiple pathways for the contamination to diffuse into the environment. Looking at the broad pathways, Air Soil and Water.

Anything in the air (including what they burned) will dissipate quickest but it depends on windspeed, direction, altitude, etc. There are tools to do air dispersion modeling, in fact they are often used by air permitng boards when reviewing permit applications for industrial facilities.

Anything that seeps into the soils SHOULD be fairly contained. Although there was the potential for large volume of liquids to be dispersed (Given the amount of volume a railcar can hold, generally 35,000 Gallo s or less) The radius if impact should be small and it will take time for the contaminants to diffuse into the soil. Spill berms, etc. If properly deployed, can help minimize the impact. There will still be local contamination that needs to be addressed sooner rather than later, but it's not like this is an old industrial facility where for decades chemicals were split with little regard for the impact. Depending on the soil properties it will take time for the contamination to migrate down to the water table. Local wells will need to be monitored routinely, but if they get after this quick enough the damage can be mimizes. As with most things, speed helps.

That brings us to the dead fish. My guess is it was surface contamination. A heavy rain would wash the chemicals downstream (espeicaly if the perimiter wasnt secured with spill berms, etc. quick enough) and into the local warerhshed. They will dilute as the flow downstream, but it dosen't take much to have an adverse impact, as we've seen.

I cant imagine that somone (the RR, the town, the EPA) didn't have an emergency action plan on file. The seeming lack of foresight combined with the haphazard response (Sorry, bad pun) is sad indeed.

In a 1st world country we should, and can, do better.
217   AmericanKulak   2023 Feb 24, 10:50pm  

GreaterNYCDude says


Is anyone doing a toxicology report on the fish to see what was in their system?

Maybe that was the job of the EPA guys that died in the plane crash

https://nypost.com/2023/02/22/5-killed-in-little-rock-plane-crash/
220   Karloff   2023 Feb 25, 11:44am  

Little Chernobyl on the Prairie


222   RayAmerica   2023 Feb 25, 8:29pm  

Video – Erin Brockovich Speech to Residents of East Palestine, Ohio

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/25/video-erin-brockovich-speech-to-residents-of-east-palestine-ohio/

"Don't trust the Government. Don't trust what they are telling you."
223   NuttBoxer   2023 Feb 25, 9:44pm  

AmericanKulak says

Maybe that was the job of the EPA guys that died in the plane crash


So they weren't traveling to East Palistine, but they did work for the same company in charge of the testing for the train crash. I wonder where they were headed after Bedford...
226   AD   2023 Feb 26, 9:01pm  

RayAmerica says


Video – Erin Brockovich Speech to Residents of East Palestine, Ohio

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/25/video-erin-brockovich-speech-to-residents-of-east-palestine-ohio/

"Don't trust the Government. Don't trust what they are telling you."


yeah they fucked up in California with PG&E and she saw that firsthand as far as not accounting for soil contamination and seepage to groundwater

norfolk southern has to pay for testing of each private well over the next 5 to 10 years and also testing of the soil

this is like the deepwater horizon spill with the coast guard ensuring british petroleum funding to continue actively monitor the gulf of mexico

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229   Patrick   2023 Feb 27, 7:34pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/east-palestine-residents-update-toxic-train-wreck-dying-slowly/


East Palestine Residents Give Grim Update after Toxic Train Wreck: ‘We’re Dying Slowly’

... Many of them are facing health issues from the chemical fire as well as the psychic toll of their town becoming, in the words of a scientist visiting the area Thursday, the new “Love Canal” — a reference to the Niagara Falls, NY, neighborhood that became a hotbed issue in 1978 because people were getting sick from living above a contaminated waste dump.

Many residents are also complaining of mystery rashes and sore throats after returning home following the lifting of evacuation orders on February 8.

“Yesterday was the first day in probably three or four days that I could smell anything,” said Shelby Walker, who lives a few yards from the epicenter of the crash and explosion.

“I lost my smell and my sense of taste.

“I had an eye infection in both eyes.

“I was having respiratory issues like I was just out of breath.
232   Ceffer   2023 Feb 27, 10:11pm  

One of the Telegram conspiracy theorists stated that the group of toxicologists killed at IHLlary Airport weren't really going to analyze, they were a group sent not as analysts, but as cover up artists, they have done it before. That certainly seems plausible, but the question is, who did it?
233   NuttBoxer   2023 Feb 28, 9:30am  

They weren't headed to East Palistine. They were on their way to investigate a fire at a metal factory in Buford Ohio. But they did work for the same company charged with investigating the train wreck. Definitely seems like there's a conspiracy here, but one a little less complicated than actors.
234   Ceffer   2023 Feb 28, 10:19am  

"INTEL - 'Possible Proof of a 1st Strike Retaliation by White Hats' by Patrick Bouvier Kennedy @ Telegram"
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=218158

So, the toxicology experts who died in the plane crash after leaving Clinton airport appear to be a Deep State cleanup crew.

They’ve helped cover-up many toxic spills and ecological disasters as far back as 2005.

If this is true, we may be witnessing the first publicly visible strike by “white hats” against the Deep State."

CIA: "Hey, boys, we need another fake cover up commission in Ohio. You know, like 9/11 and the Warren Report."

237   RayAmerica   2023 Feb 28, 3:41pm  

EPA Administrator Admits He Wouldn’t Allow His Own Kid Anywhere Near East Palestine Streams Over “Accident”

“Would you allow your kids anywhere close to these streams right now,” Sortor asked.

“I would not,” Regan, replied. “I’m a father of a nine-year-old. I think we have to all agree that we wish this accident didn’t occur. But the accident occurred and as a result, some of our creeks and our streams have pollution in them.”
https://thelibertydaily.com/epa-administrator-admits-he-wouldnt-allow-his-own-kid-anywhere-near-east-palestine-streams-over-accident/
238   RayAmerica   2023 Feb 28, 3:43pm  

Nothing at all to be concerned about ... and don't forget to drink the water, it's perfectly safe.

45,000 Animal Deaths in East Palestine, Says Ohio Dept. of Natural Resources:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/benbartee/2023/02/28/45000-animal-deaths-in-east-palestine-says-ohio-dept-of-natural-resources-n1674396
239   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 1, 12:29pm  

It just has to be another coincidence ...

First East Palestine, then Bedford, Ohio (just outside of Cleveland) and now this?

ANOTHER Disaster in Northeast Ohio as Several Explosion Hit Cleveland Warehouse — 50 Firefighters Respond
https://thelibertydaily.com/another-disaster-in-northeast-ohio-as-several-explosion-hit-cleveland-warehouse-50-firefighters-respond/
240   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 2, 9:59am  

Maybe they'll feel better if they drink a big glass of East Palestine water ... which the EPA claims is 'perfectly safe to drink?'

Workers Cleaning Up Toxic Ohio Train Derailment Are Getting Sick, Rail Union Leader Warns

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rail-union-leader-warns-workers-cleaning-ohio-derailment-getting-sick
241   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 3, 9:07am  

Isn't it comforting to know that we have a Government that tells us when the air is safe to breathe and the water safe to drink?

Scientific report shows that East Palestine air has “higher than normal” concentrations of NINE toxic chemicals

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-03-02-east-palestine-air-high-concentrations-toxic-chemicals.html
242   Patrick   2023 Mar 3, 2:10pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/the-transportation-minister-in-greece-just-resigned-in-disgrace-after-a-major-train-wreck-what-a-novel-idea


The transportation minister of Greece just resigned in disgrace after a major train wreck ... what a novel idea

Rescuers delved Wednesday through flattened, burned-out carriages for survivors and bodies after a passenger train and a freight train crashed head-on in central Greece overnight, killing at least 36 people and injuring scores.

Transport Minister Kostas Karamanlis resigned Wednesday, saying he felt it was his "duty" to step down "as a basic indication of respect for the memory of the people who died so unfairly."

What a novel idea. Showing humility and resigning after a major disaster under your watch.

Almost like you have dignity and don't want to make excuses. ...

But in a country where no one got in trouble for the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal and everyone just wants to blame others for their problems, it's not a surprise that Mayor Pete takes no responsibility for the cascade of transportation disasters over the last two years that's continuing to this day.
243   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 4, 3:16pm  

Gas Tankers Keep Crashing and Blowing Up — Latest Hits Maryland Neighborhood With Multiple Homes Now Burning
https://thelibertydaily.com/gas-tankers-keep-crashing-and-blowing-up-latest-hits-maryland-neighborhood-with-multiple-homes-now-burning/
244   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 4, 3:17pm  

What in the World Is Going on in Ohio? FOURTH Massive Industrial Fire Hits State Since East Palestine Derailment

https://thelibertydaily.com/what-in-the-world-is-going-on-in-ohio-fourth-massive-industrial-fire-hits-state-since-east-palestine-derailment/
245   Onvacation   2023 Mar 4, 4:23pm  

Patrick says

it's not a surprise that Mayor Pete takes no responsibility for the cascade of transportation disasters over the last two years that's continuing to this day.

What happened two years ago? TRUMP! it's his fault. During his four years in office he undid what it took Biden, and the other career politicians, many decades to create.
246   NuttBoxer   2023 Mar 4, 4:24pm  

Watched Ryan Cristian the other day. That guy goes deep on stuff, if you wanted to know anything about spike protein shots, he's your guy. Now he's getting into Ohio...

Apparently EPA is finally going to test for Dioxin, a month AFTER creating the largest amount in world history. People in East Palestine are being diagnosed as having been poisoned when they come into the doctor for breathing problems, rashes, etc.

Where are the I Stand with Ohio signs and slogans? Where is the mountain of cash for these people who can't afford to relocate? Where are the environmental protestors? The always-maskers? All those who invoked their right over our health decisions?

If you are, or were a part of any of these groups, this-is-you-wake-up-call. They don't care about Ukraine, they only care about money laundering. They don't care about the environment, they only care about control and enslaving you. They don't care about anyone's health, THEY WANT YOU DEAD.

Wake the fuck up, before they kill or enslave us all. You are being played.
247   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 4, 8:29pm  

ANOTHER Train Has Derailed in Ohio — Hazmat Crews on Scene
https://thelibertydaily.com/another-train-has-derailed-in-ohio-hazmat-en-route/
248   richwicks   2023 Mar 9, 1:00am  

Here's 3 questions NOBODY has asked, and nobody is answering:

1) Who produced the vinyl chloride?
2) Who was buying the vinyl chloride?
3) What was the vinyl chloride going to be used for?

I bring this up, because there's been some suspicion this was being shipped to make chemical weapons, and if you think the US doesn't make chemical weapons, you're incorrect in that. Everybody still does. As a weapon it can be covertly delivered and deployed, and it's difficult to determine when it was brought to the target area, and who brought it there.

The hypothesis is that it was being used to make phosgene gas.

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