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cisTits says

There is a 40 percent increase in funds for countering China’s military expansion in the Pacific, and we probably do need more ships, planes, and associated gear to be ready to respond to those scenarios.

Seems silly to me to have naval ships at this point. They are so easy to take out. There's now supersonic torpedos. How do you stop that? I think in a real war with China and Russia, ever single naval ship with the exception of submarines would be destroyed in weeks if not days. It wasn't too long ago that two naval ships ran into cargo ships. It's not just a technical problem with the navy, its the incompetence of the people commanding these ships. How the fuck do you run into a cargo ship? There's clear and defined right of ways on the ocean, and we have officers so fucking incompetent they don't follow these rules of navigation.

Submarines can be tracked now too - no matter how deep they are, they leave a wake. This only tells you where they WERE not where they currently are, but it's just some math to figure out where they are given a straight course.

If we really get into the shit, I think it will quickly go nuclear. We can't fight peers. We cannot take on China or Russia directly without nuclear weapons, and that's just insanity. China and Russia ALSO can't fight peers, we're all in the same boat. I think it's likely that in a conflict China and Russia will team up and we'll team up with the EU, which we keep fucking over. The EU would be smart to team up with Russia and not the United States.

I think in order for our nation to survive, we need to stop having assholes in power that run roughshod over everybody and we have to consistently apply and enforce principles. If our nation, for example, is really against slave labor, we have to stop dealing with nations that employ it. That will end most lithium production and maybe all cobalt. We need to end our dependence on China, but I see how it lowers the chance of conflict if there's MUTUAL dependence. Is China really dependent on the United States? What do we give them? Paper certificates called "money", or digits in a bank account?

I am concerned that the rest of the world doesn't really need the US, and just fears the US. In a conflict, we're dependent on many nations, I don't think the EU or Russia, or China is really dependent on the United States. I wish we would stop being the thugs on the block, and start engaging in mutual cooperation. And BTW, I fully realize there's plenty of thugs out there, we're not the only one. I wish we'd apply principles consistently. I had dinner with a friend last night, he was defending the SECOND Iraq War over Hussein's possession of "weapons of mass destruction", and I had to keep pointing out to him, that we gave him those weapons in the Iran/Iraq war. If we didn't give him those weapons, there would have been no excuse - the US created the problem and then proposed a bad solution to the problem, and nobody ever gets fired.

I'd love for us to skip the surface vessels and build a couple of score quiet, cheap, Diesel-Electric Attack Subs instead. We could ravage the Chinese coast and shipping with a few of those.

They ain't your WW2 granddaddy's SSK's. Their endurance, stealth snorkeling, silence, digital filtered array and towed passive sonar, and weapons capacity is quantum leaps beyond anything at that time.

Nuke subs can never hide all sounds made by a reactor; but electric is as silent as the grave. And nothing can hunt a sub better than another submarine.

A half dozen SSKs would wreck absolute havoc on any Chinese Amphibious attack on Taiwan, with plenty left over to take out a shitload of oil storage and refinery plants.

richwicks says

I am concerned that the rest of the world doesn't really need the US, and just fears the US.

They fear the Chicoms and Russia. And you know that, or pretend to not know that.

They just want the USA to protect them from Russia and the Chicoms. Its ironic as now Germany is spending more for defense based on prodding from the Birdbrain Biden administration.

Remember how Germany ignored or laughed at Trump when he told them they need to spend more money on defense and be less dependent on Russian oil and gas ? Most white liberals would want that to be put down the memory hole.

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richwicks says

I think in order for our nation to survive, we need to stop having assholes in power that run roughshod over everybody and we have to consistently apply and enforce principles. If our nation, for example, is really against slave labor, we have to stop dealing with nations that employ it

I agree. Its going to be hard to bring production back to the USA or transfer it to countries that ensures human rights.

It goes back at least to Bill Clinton signing NAFTA or the trade agreement with China. I am noticing more American made products at Lowes and Home Depot.

And I read Vietnam and India are among the countries taking manufacturing jobs from China.

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cisTits says

Neocon Deep State Fucks Get $1Trillion Budget

There are no "conservatives" including neoconservatives calling the shots in the Birdbrain Biden regime. There is a left wing kleptocracy like Susan Rice and Anthony Blinken.

Ron Klain got shitcanned cause they needed an even more sinister Chief of Staff.

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They fear the Chicoms and Russia. And you know that, or pretend to not know that.

No, I don't. Why should they? China and Russia isn't all over the world with bases bombing 7 nations over total bullshit. I'm sure other nations fear China and Russia economically, but I don't see why militarily. Even Taiwan doesn't have to care, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO, is continue to say "one nation, two systems" - that's it.

Remember Tibet as in "Free Tibet" when that was fashionable? Tibet isn't all it was cracked up to be. Steal a potato and you'd have a limb cut off. It was a pretty rough society, but it's not my society, I won't judge it. China DOES however have an argument "we're doing this for humanitarian reasons" - although I don't believe them. No country attacks another society for humanitarian reasons, that's ALWAYS a lie.

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They just want the USA to protect them from Russia and the Chicoms.

It's claimed that Henry Kissinger once said “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” Just ask our ally Saddam Hussein that carried out an 8 year bloody war on our behalf to try to retake Iran after Iran kicked out the TRAITOR that was installed by the CIA in Operation Ajax. He was a traitor to his people. That's who ruled Iran with an IRON FIST from 1953 to 1979.

When Hussein failed to recapture Iran, the US attacked him. What was Operation Desert Storm really over? The US doesn't care if a nation kills their citizens. Libya is doing it now and the US bombed that, supposedly, "to prevent a humanitarian crisis". What is Ukraine? The US started that mess.

The US just blew up the Nordstream pipelines (well, several of them), that was an act of war against not only Russia, but Germany and the EU in general - our "allies". The US creates the refugees that are flowing into Europe, our "allies".

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It goes back at least to Bill Clinton signing NAFTA or the trade agreement with China. I am noticing more American made products at Lowes and Home Depot.

Well good! I hope this is true that there is more American manufacturing. I hope you're correct. I strongly support American manufacturing and blue collar work. The idea of a "service economy" is just stupid. I have a GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT for blue collar workers. I used to think they were stupid and easily replaceable - what incredible arrogance I had at one point. Glad I'm not so fucking stupid now. What an asshole I once was. These are people I depend one, and who do not depend on me. I'm grateful for them.

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And I read Vietnam and India are among the countries taking manufacturing jobs from China.

I hope you're right about this as well. I find China to be a repressive society that makes use of slave labor. We should have NEVER traded with them.

Clinton either fucked up, or purposely betrayed this nation. I don't think he fucked up. Hillary Clinton was on the BOD of Walmart in the 1990's and that's when China "opened up". I think we have very real domestic enemies in this nation, and that includes the presidency, and has for a long time.

We should have good relations with every nation, but not dependence. I know that dependence lessens the possibility of war, which I think is good because I think war is a waste of resources and serves no long term purpose, but at the same time, my nation my first. EVERY nation, first, for themselves. I believe strongly in self determination, even if I disagree with the nation's morals and ethics.

If Afghanistan wants to be controlled by religious people, fine. I wouldn't want that in the United States, but Afghanistan isn't my nation and the culture is foreign to me. You can argue about women's rights there, certainly, but you think this woman is happy?



Our government actively turns our population, insane.

I'm educated enough, really experienced enough - that's the REAL education, at this point, to recognize and accept my own ignorance. I wish I had a better understanding of the world at 20 than I did.