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WookieMan says

Think I might need hip and shoulder surgery.

Getting old sucks. It wasn't in the brochure.

stfu says

WookieMan says

Think I might need hip and shoulder surgery.

Getting old sucks. It wasn't in the brochure.

Would you prefer to get old or die young? Not everyone gets to live to old age you know.

WookieMan says

Think I might need hip and shoulder surgery.

Stretching regularly works for me. I have friends who have back and tennis elbow pains. I suggested to them to stretch and the pains gradually went away.

With the back pain, try teeter hang up. It’s for sale at Costco for a few hundred dollars. He said he felt light headed at first, but got used to it after a few days. It worked for him.

Eman says

Would you prefer to get old or die young? Not everyone gets to live to old age you know.

Well that's pretty dark for what I considered an off the cuff remark.

I guess I would prefer to die before chronic pain set in. A pain without relief nor hope of relief which registers a minimum of 7 on a scale to 10. A pain that interrupts sleep.

Eman says

With the back pain, try teeter hang up. It’s for sale at Costco for a few hundred dollars. He said he felt light headed at first, but got used to it after a few days. It worked for him.

Lol, I'm a taller and not fat heavy guy, but 220-230lbs. Think Brian Urlacher if you're at all into football, Chicago Bears. My buddy has one out in Montana and I used after snowboarding in early February. His model was older from when I was in high school hanging at his parents house. I almost did a teeter topple on the damn thing. Guys trip so drinking was involved. I used it for two days and maybe not enough, but it didn't feel better.

Done stretches and the theragun massager thing or whatever that's called. Wife runs so she gets hip pain. I think something is torn in both. It's been about 45 days since it happened. I've be doing stuff but still trying to rest. Shoulder was last fall '22 playing volleyball. I try to man it up through pain. I can't bend over and say pick up a toy without cringing pain in the shoulder and hip. Getting to my knee now because I walk weird.

I don't trust the medical field is all I'll say. I'll go in for a first first visit and maybe an X-ray, and they'll throw pain pills at me. I don't take them. Then it will be an MRI. Then we have to do exploratory surgery and potentially repair it. $50-100k later it's still not better. Doctors are fucks.

I'm gonna probably go the physical therapy route. I honestly think they're more qualified to know what the issue is. If it's serious they'll let me know and actually be honest. My .2¢, but I could be wrong. I'm thoroughly uncomfortable though that's for sure. Shitty chairs and bleachers piss me off now too. I have a tight ass, but it's boney. So bleacher are a bitch for kids events.

I know women tend to like taller men, but as one it kind of sucks. Getting kneed in the back at a fuck basketball game or band concert is the worst. I barely fit. Everyone is touching you. It fucking annoying. Sorry for the rant, but fuck bleachers. Whoever invented them and didn't think about comfort can eat a dick. Someone woke up one day and invented that. Maybe it's a good idea to put a crowd in a room and have everyone touching each other on the worst surface possible... Though no one.

stfu says

Eman says

Would you prefer to get old or die young? Not everyone gets to live to old age you know.

Well that's pretty dark for what I considered an off the cuff remark.

I guess I would prefer to die before chronic pain set in. A pain without relief nor hope of relief which registers a minimum of 7 on a scale to 10. A pain that interrupts sleep.

If doing a random patnet poll. Young. I'd rather live like a rock star (I don't) than live to be 90 and need people to bath my old wrinkly ass. I'd rather be Tom Petty versus Keith Richards. You know that guy has 5 gallon weekly calendar buckets of pills to stay alive likely.

I just don't want to be a damn numb zombie. Once you hit 70-80 that's what it is. Look at our fucking POTUS. Dude can't even walk stairs. Besides his Covid response, Trump's age is a negative. If I had to pull the plug based off my boomer friends, it would be 65-70. My best man in my wedding, his dad is 74 I believe. Bikes, keeps himself in shape. He look miserable. I golf with him 4-5 times a year. It doesn't look fun. Barely hits the ball 200 yards off the tee. Looks like it hurts.

Maybe that's the benchmark for me. If I can't hit a ball 300 yards maybe it's time to hang up on life... lol. That's a joke, but it's okay since I've experience suicide multiple times. Sorry if that offends anyone. Humor is coping.

stfu says

Eman says

Would you prefer to get old or die young? Not everyone gets to live to old age you know.

Well that's pretty dark for what I considered an off the cuff remark.

I guess I would prefer to die before chronic pain set in. A pain without relief nor hope of relief which registers a minimum of 7 on a scale to 10. A pain that interrupts sleep.

Sorry if it came across dark. I have friends whose kids passed away between months old to 18 years old. I just couldn’t bare the thought of being that parent.

Getting can suck, but we’re not putting our parents through the pain of burying us if we die young. I completely agree that the moment we have unbearable pains or can’t walk, it’s time to go. No reason to hang around on this earth.

WookieMan says

Eman says

With the back pain, try teeter hang up. It’s for sale at Costco for a few hundred dollars. He said he felt light headed at first, but got used to it after a few days. It worked for him.

Lol, I'm a taller and not fat heavy guy, but 220-230lbs. Think Brian Urlacher if you're at all into football, Chicago Bears. My buddy has one out in Montana and I used after snowboarding in early February. His model was older from when I was in high school hanging at his parents house. I almost did a teeter topple on the damn thing. Guys trip so drinking was involved. I used it for two days and maybe not enough, but it didn't feel better.

Done stretches and the theragun massager thing or whatever that's called. Wife runs so she gets hip pain. I think something is torn in both. It's been about 45 days since it happened. I've be doing stuff but still trying to rest. Shoulder was ...

Sorry to hear man. I play tennis, run and does some weightlifting. Fortunately, whatever pains I have encountered, I’ve been able to stretch them away while I have people around me who are in constant pain. It seems like it moves from one muscle/joint to the next for them while others have to go through surgery every few years.

Hitting 50 later this year without being on any medications and pain is a blessing and I intend to keep it like this for as long as possible.

With respect to your wife’s hip pain, maybe wear shoes that have more cushions in addition to running on less hard surface? Maybe slowdown and jog to lessen the impact on the hips? I’m not an expert in this arena, but whenever I need to learn something, YouTube has been really helpful.

With respect to teeter hang-up, I have a big, overweight friend….like 260 lbs, who had constant back pain. He swore up and down it works and got rid of his back pain. Just have to do it consistently for at least a month.

Eman says

With respect to your wife’s hip pain, maybe wear shoes that have more cushions in addition to running on less hard surface? Maybe slowdown and jog to lessen the impact on the hips? I’m not an expert in this arena, but whenever I need to learn something, YouTube has been really helpful.

With respect to teeter hang-up, I have a big, overweight friend….like 260 lbs, who had constant back pain. He swore up and down it works and got rid of his back pain. Just have to do it consistently for at least a month.

Wife just runs too much in my opinion. Keeps her looking good for a 40 year old, but she does it too much and too many miles, again in my opinion. She drops maybe $400-500 per year on professionally fitted shoes. Tracks mileage and throws them out.

My issues are injury related. As gay as this will sound it was carrying a 47lb snowboard bag and 47 golf bag, backpack and roller bag at the airport in AZ. Strained the hip walking half a mile through Sky Harbor with this shit to check it from the garage. Wasn't a pop, but I knew I fucked the hip up. Then proceeded to snowboard black diamonds with a big heavy and long snowboard so I didn't sink into the packed powder. Nightmare as a snowboarder in the cat trails and flats. Should have used my smaller board for conditions but it had been a while and didn't want to switch bindings.

Reality is I've lived an active life and I'm just getting old. Lived an extremely active life in my younger years. All state athlete twice. Not bragging, it just took a lot of work and physical pain. Got hooked on OTC pain killers to the tune of 3-4 Alieve pills before practice. Had my gall bladder removed and they did do a liver biopsy at the time, and fortunately I didn't fuck that up during that time, so healthy enough internally.

I'm too competitive, so if I'm a car I don't tap the brakes. I'm worried at some point I wreck the car. Knock on wood, fortunately nothing with my back yet. My physical existence isn't pleasant currently is all. I'll fix this bitch up. I'll do volleyball, swimming, golf and silly yard games until 50. Then it's probably golf and going on walks. Got 10 years to get the kids into snowboarding/skiing. My buddy got me into it when I was 14 and now that I can go to places like CO, AZ, MT to board is fucking amazing... sometimes scary. Yet to board CA. All our trips with the guys pick CO every time. We cheap out, stay at their houses and fucking deal with the I-70 traffic. I'll usually go on a weekday.

If anyone is a skier/boarder, Bridger Bowl in MT is ridiculously empty generally. And cheap. If you have an avalanche transponder you can do some chair lift backcountry style runs. If there's fresh powder the entire mountain is a blast. My anxiety is high. I'm going on rants a lot lately. Sorry.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/mother-jones-finally-gives-the-real/comment/13510801

I really hope one day that the bulk of people who are pro-vax....but anti covid vax, spend a bit of time thinking about how and why big pharma...all of a sudden...went rogue? Overnight.

Until 2021 they were angelic...and the hordes of jabs pushed into children from birth are all about health and wellness.

Autism and allergies and debilitating illness are on an exponential rise...as is the pushing of lifelong medication starting in grade school. But it is all good.

Putting children on antidepressants and puberty blockers is good medical practice. Ignoring diet and excercise...but pushing safe jabs is for our best health.

Big pharma is our friend...they love us...they just made a small error with the covid vaccine. Once that is fixed we can, and should all look forward to many more vaccines...for our health.

500 are in the WHO lineup. That is so awesome.

What the hell is wrong with our thinking?

The FDA, CDC, GAVI, WHO, WEF, DoD, CIA etc....were all really good, solid outfits until 2021.?

Then something bad happened to all of them at once?

Once we fix the very small covid 19 error...all will be well again.

Thank God our troubles are so managable.

Eman says

Would you prefer to get old or die young? Not everyone gets to live to old age you know.

Honestly, knowing many people who were old, and got REALLY old, I don't know if I want to get really old. In fact, I'm pretty certain I do not.

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/sids

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/polio-vaccine-gates-funded/

7 Children Paralyzed by Polio Virus Derived From New Gates-Funded Polio Vaccine

Seven children were paralyzed by vaccine-derived polio linked to the new nOPV2 polio vaccine developed by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, according to health officials in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Burundi and the Global Polio Eradication Initiative (GPEI), which on Thursday announced the news.

Gates seems to experiment with his toxxines in Africa.

There is also a theory that AIDS entered the human population in Africa via a polio vaccine grown in monkey kidney cells, where the monkey was infected with the simian form of AIDS.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/24-vaccines-in-1983-on-the-vaccine

24 vaccines in 1983 on the vaccine schedule birth to 18 & now in 2023, it is 72 and it rises to 76 if vaccines for pregnant women added...76...are you comfortable with that number? did you know this?

https://palexander.substack.com/p/24-vaccines-in-1983-on-the-vaccine/comment/13923925

Karen Bracken
Writes Karen Bracken
7 min ago
Japan proved back in the 90's that MMR caused SIDS but of course the US totally ignores this. Japan today has the lowest infant mortality rate of any other country while the US doesn't even make the top 20 list. Japan stopped using MMR and suggest delaying childhood vaccination until 2 years of age. Since they stopped using MMR their SIDS rate has plummeted. A healthy baby does not die in their crib for no reason. Because parents refuse to challenge this legally the problem continues.

Well, now that we fully recognize the Rockefeller/Medicine/Pharma democide scams, forensic analysis of past lesser outbreak depravities is in order. I'm sure more will be revealed. Since everything HAD to be a Satanic lie, reversing the accepted publicity is a start.

One of my wife's oldest friends' child died of SIDS. Friend donated a memorial bench to the child over at Kaiser.

I thanked Karen for the comment and she replied:

https://palexander.substack.com/p/24-vaccines-in-1983-on-the-vaccine/comment/13924315

You are most welcome. I have done a lot of research in the work done in Japan and anyone can look up the infant mortality rate by country. Japan had a very high SIDS death rate and there was a suspicion that it was the MMR vaccine. And they were right.

https://notthebee.com/article/autism-rates-in-the-us-are-skyrocketing-according-to-cdc-data




Could be all the vaxxes they give kids now (76 of them, iirc) or maybe autism is just becoming a fashionable diagnosis. That happens in waves, where various medical services realize they can get money if they just make the right diagnosis.

Patrick says

In summary, the COVID-19 mass vaccination program has backfired and eroded confidence in the routine childhood vaccine schedule and fueled resistance to school vaccine mandates. As more safety data emerge on COVID-19 vaccines, this giant shift towards vaccine choice can be expected to intensify. Where there is any risk, there must be choice.

It needs to intensify and we now have the data (vaccine deaths and injuries) to prove it.

a. The only thing that connects victims of Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (SADS) in different states, different countries and different continents is the vaccine.

b. At this point we are now forced to look at Sudden Infant death syndrome (SIDS). Again the only thing common between infants in different states, different countries and different continents is the vaccine. What else is there?

c. The proliferation of Autism the last 20, 30 years is another such case. The only thing common between autistic children in different states, different countries and different continents are the vaccines.

d. Finally the early vaccine data against infectious deceases need to be re-examined because they clearly show that these Infectious Diseases were declining long before the arrival of the vaccines.



The_Deplorable

The_Deplorable says

" c. The proliferation of Autism the last 20, 30 years is another such case. The only thing common between autistic children in different states, different countries and different continents are the vaccines."

The latest: According to the CDC Autism in the USA Is Increasing. I guess more vaccinations means more autistic children.

" Autism rates in US children have jumped from one in 150 in 2002 to one in 36 in 2020, or 2.8%, according to a new study published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). "

See https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/autism-rise-cdc-data

The_Deplorable

Inject aluminum into a child and hope it doesn't cause brain damage.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21568886/

Experimental research, however, clearly shows that aluminum adjuvants have a potential to induce serious immunological disorders in humans. In particular, aluminum in adjuvant form carries a risk for autoimmunity, long-term brain inflammation and associated neurological complications and may thus have profound and widespread adverse health consequences.

Sometimes it seems like they are trying to kill us.

https://darbyshaw.substack.com/p/are-pet-vaccines-safe-and-effective/comment/14036495

KC
Writes KC’s COVID Facts

"Of all reported SIDS cases post-vaccination, 75 % occurred within 7 days (p < 0.00001)."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214750021001268

Here are more you may be interested in:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/research_category/sids/

"According to VAERS, 17% of all infant deaths occur the day of vaccination. And 78% within a week"

https://covidmythbuster.substack.com/p/have-public-health-authorities-been

"As best as I can tell from all the data that has been collected, is that the vaccines (especially DTP) cause microstrokes in the brain in the region that controls automatic respiration, so infants start having interrupted breath cycles, and unless they are at an ICU or somewhere else where they are monitored and can be resuscitated, once the breathing stops it is fatal."

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/a-century-of-evidence-has-accumulated

https://twitter.com/catsscareme2021/status/1655175706375081988?ref_src=patrick.net

Jessica Rojas 🇺🇸💪
@catsscareme2021
💔👣 Annabelle Lee died 10 hours after receiving the MMR, DTaP, varicella and half of a Flu shot.
Her mother took her shopping afterwards and said she was grouchy.When they returned home she laid her down to relax for the night and watch cartoons.

Her mother’s words...

She was quiet, she was asleep. No sounds except the low sound of the cartoons. No cries, no whines, no groans, no screams, nothing. Nothing.

It was 11 something, I felt in her packnplay at her diaper, it was wet. I picked her up, she was facedown. It all went so wrong so fast. I screamed for her dad.

I don’t recall any color even being gone from her face, she didn’t look dead. I called 911, we gave her cpr. We caused vomit to come up, it was all over us. It was all over me, I still taste it. I will never ever get that taste out of my mouth. I ran outside. Her dad kept giving her cpr. I just laid outside in my driveway and screamed. A cop was trying to get me up, I couldn’t move.

I saw her rushed from the house into an ambulance. She was missing a sock. I was missing a sock. I refuse to think that was just coincidence. We both lost our socks in the commotion.

I remember asking a cop that was at my door while we were waiting on my inlaws to pick us up to go to the hospital if it was bad. If hed ever seen any baby survive.
“It’s bad.”
Shuffled us into this room at childrens, I just pushed myself up against a dresser. The nurse that came in was pregnant, and I was furious. It took forever. It might have only been 5 mins but it took forever for some doctor to come in. They tried to start her heart a few times, with adrenaline I think. It didn’t work. She was gone. Their was nothing they could do.

The first question I asked.
Could shots have killed her? She just got shots not even been 10 hours since she got the shots, did the shots kill her? What happened!?
That doctor lied to my face. Any doctor knows that vaccines can kill people. She didn’t know what had happened in her body, she just said no. She reassured me it wasn’t the shots. Again and again. To be honest, she made me feel stupid for even questioning the shots. Just like many doctors do. Thats the right thing to do, vaccines. The greater good, nothing bad happens, the risk is minimal. Lies, it’s all just a lie.

I didn’t want to see her, I regret it sometimes, but most of the time I know it was right. She was gone, and I didn’t want to remember her like that. I didn’t let anyone else go see her either, I didn’t want ANYONE to see her like that, to have those images. I told my mom she didn’t want to see what I saw. I’ll never really know if my parents went back to see her, I left before they did.

The doctor said her fever was 114 degrees. So within 30 mins she went from normal temperature, alive, to dead with a 114 degree temperature. That’s not Sids.

SUDC
Sudden Unexplained Death in Childhood is what they call it. SIDS for 12mo +. It’s a crapshoot, it’s a catchall. Truthfully, it’s lazy. That is what the coroner told me it was ruled as of that night. So I asked him. Was it the shots? He said, “It’s very suspicious she got shots and died so soon after, but I will not know anything until lab reports and tox screens come back”. He doesn’t recall saying that, but I recall him saying that, perfectly to me.
And she was gone.

This little Angel did not need any shots.

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-dirty-secret-of-the-dtp-vaccines

Now, compare the amounts of toxoids given to babies versus adults. Babies get twice the tetanus toxoid as an adult that might weight 10-20 times more from the GSK vaccines for diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus. Babies get 10 times the diphtheria toxoid dose as adults in the GSK shots. Babies get 3 times the pertussis toxoid, the FHA (filamentous hemaglutinin) and the pertactin as adults from the GSK shots. ...

Would adults tolerate the large doses we give to babies? Would someone please explain these dosing choices?

And how could I forget? The DTP vaccines recommended by CDC during every single pregnancy were never approved by FDA for pregnancy.

Because we now know what wins when there is a choice between health and profits,

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-may-23-2023

Betrayal

I think all children remember the original betrayal of vaccination. The parent, who is supposed to protect them, turns them over to a stranger who uses sharp metal objects to inject poisons into their body. This grotesque ritual disconnects children from their own bodies, their parents, the wisdom of nature, and divine source.

Falsifiability

Falsifiability: the capacity for some proposition, theory, or hypothesis to be proven wrong.

The enormous problem that we face with The Cult of Vaccine is that their ideology has become non-falsifiable. No amount of evidence will convince the cultists that vaccines are unsafe.

As Karl Popper pointed out in 1935, falsifiability is the hallmark of science. If a claim is not falsifiable, you are not doing science. Theology is non-falsifiable. When it comes to vaccines, the CDC, FDA, and NIH are not doing science, they are engaged in Molochian theology.

Patrick says

I think all children remember the original betrayal of vaccination. The parent, who is supposed to protect them, turns them over to a stranger who uses sharp metal objects to inject poisons into their body. This grotesque ritual disconnects children from their own bodies, their parents, the wisdom of nature, and divine source.

I don't blame parents.

They trust the wrong people.

You have any idea what it's like to be the ONE person with the idea EVERYBODY rejects? I do, I've had several of these and despite being proven right over time. It's a real burden. It's very hard to go against the flow of everybody.

I just recently realized I have a Cassandra Complex except my curse isn't knowing the future and having nobody believe me - it's knowing the present and having nobody believe me.

People will forgive you for being wrong, but they will never forgive you for being correct. I've experienced this countless times, and FINALLY I just own it. I'm never going to go along to get along again. I'm fed up with it. No more of "I forgive you for thinking and saying I was insane and nuts, even though I never got an apology from you, even though I was right and you know I was right", it's "fuck you for being an asshole to me, and a moron that still can't admit even now I was correct X years ago, even though you shit all over me" from here on now. I can't deal with these people anymore. The sheep are running off a fucking cliff and I don't want to be around them anymore.

Patrick says

https://notthebee.com/article/autism-rates-in-the-us-are-skyrocketing-according-to-cdc-data

Could be all the vaxxes they give kids now (76 of them, iirc) or maybe autism is just becoming a fashionable diagnosis. That happens in waves, where various medical services realize they can get money if they just make the right diagnosis.

Age of the woman Patrick. I'm convinced of this. I'm gonna go Iwog on this and I believe he was right. Women/girls should have kids 16-25 when their bodies are the healthiest and at reproductive peak.

Because we need two income households women put it off until 30+. Vaccines could be the cause I suppose, but I think there's more to it. Dudes can plant their seed any time, I'd advise as early as possible with 2 kids. But women should not be having kids over the age of 30 in my opinion. The lifetime of their reproductive organs is literally halfway over by that time if not 60% done. Women go through menopause in their 40's sometimes. What's the outcome of that baby 5 year prior? Issues.

To put it in guy terms, do you trust the 3k mile car more or the 200k mile car more? Things go wrong with age. Birth rates have been declining but population overall is growing because we live longer. I think women specifically are like, oh I'll be able to have a kid at some point. Having a bull dog of a wife (not looks) she wanted kids so we had them. I think most women are weak today, at least 45 and under. Afraid to have kids.

Covid vaccine is bull shit. I'll agree on that. Other things like clean water and sewer systems have been a massive help and maybe the other vaccines are not needed any more or we know how to treat disease. I just think autism and mental issues have more to do with age and/or drug/alcohol usage. That includes prescription meds.

Kid from my class had an autistic son. Died two years ago. Most people don't realize what people are on. His wife was doing meth and you wouldn't have known unless you've seen it or can spot the signals. Just like when I'm 10 beers deep on vacation you'd have zero clue I've been drinking. Throw in some pills and no wonder the kid comes out autistic. We have a pill problem in this country. I don't think tested, decades old vaccines are the issue. As with Vax injuries/deaths, we have no idea if it was a mixture of other stuff they were taking. This takes at least a decade to figure out.

This is not clear cut. Womyn, esp. with a healthy lifestyle and advancement in medicine have pushed the limits well into 40s, 50s (rarely even 60s). While for many the 40s mean it's over, most of my friends and family was born to womyn around or just before 40 and they are all healthy kids. A lot of it is genetics, but the increase in risk of health issues for the kids of older parents is far less than what people think, for both men and womyn, as long as they are able to conceive and give birth. The main reason to have kids earlier (besides being a younger parent) is that you have more energy imo, but usually also less money. It's a gamble for a man who really wants at least one kid to go with a woman over 35, but their chances, given they have access to fertility treatments over the years of 35 and into her 40s are fairly high if they try for a few years. Now best is to look at family history and go with a fertile and healthy one if she is already "older", or get with a womyn around or below 30. But if she has fertility issues by way of genetics, she can be 25 or 30 and never have kids, or only with a lot of effort and medical intervention. Genetics is the most important factor.

https://rumble.com/v10m6zb-peer-reviewed-ten-year-study-are-vaccinated-kids-healthier-than-the-unvacci.html


original link

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/whats-the-point-of-developing-new

What's the point of developing new drugs?

This question is not rhetorical. A new treatment to lower harm from a minor respiratory virus in infants instead is associated with MORE baby deaths, clinical trials show. Yet no one seems to care. ...

In the most important trial, of healthy near-full-term and full-term infants, three out of 994 infants given nirsevimab died within a year. None of the 496 infants who received a placebo shot died.

Patrick says

This question is not rhetorical. A new treatment to lower harm from a minor respiratory virus in infants instead is associated with MORE baby deaths, clinical trials show. Yet no one seems to care. ...

I have a question for you @Patrick - have you changed your mind about vaccines? I think you were once "a liberal", as was I. You cannot be on the side of a "party", if you want the truth.

I'm quite a bit suspicious about general vaccines now, and if you talked to me 5 years ago about this, pushed against vaccination with me then, I would have flat out said you were nuts - but there seems to be a lot of evidence I was wrong.

I used to laugh at the actual "anti-vaxxers", I'm not laughing now, just like I don't laugh at the "bible beaters" warning that gay marriage was a slippery slope. It's a struggle to climb out of the hole.

I still think the "bible beaters" are wrong about much, however, they weren't wrong about gay marriage.

@richwicks Yes, I changed my mind about vaccines.

I used to think that "everyone knows" vaccines are always good. Now I'm pretty sure that vaccines are a scam, causing more harm than good, for the profits of criminal organizations like Pfizer.

I also used to think that some gay men were "born that way". Then I actually worked at gay.com on a contract, met a lot of them, and decided no, they are lying about that to cover up and excuse the sexual abuse they suffered as boys. The whole culture was revoltingly self-indulgent, lots of drugs as well. Anything that contradicts their self-indulgence is called bigotry.

Another one, just from today: the breakfast cereal companies make a lot of money and used that to push the outright lie that "breakfast is the most important meal of the day". It's not. You'd actually be way better off skipping breakfast entirely:

https://patrick.net/post/1339310/2021-05-20-weight-loss?start=41#comment-1965485

Patrick says

Another one, just from today: the breakfast cereal companies make a lot of money and used that to push the outright lie that "breakfast is the most important meal of the day". It's not. You'd actually be way better off skipping breakfast entirely:

I'm pretty much in agreement with what you said, especially about "breakfast". Garbage that pigs wouldn't eat sold as cereal.

Not all gay men are what you think they are. I'm an aberration myself, but I'm not gay, but my cousin is, he's an aberration himself. We're both perplexed on society's acceptance of what we just went though. He can see his homosexuality as a mental disease, which he doesn't want to cure. He doesn't see it as harming him, and honestly, I don't either.

I've just concluded that 1 out of 10 people are human, and 9 out of 10 are not. If the government said sticking your finger up your asshole, and hoping around on 1 foot would prevent you from dying, at least 60% of the population would do it. 30% would refuse to do it because "the wrong party" is president. Most of the population are cattle, to one party or the other, only 10% are actually independent and simply don't blindly follow orders or blindly refuse to.

Patrick says

Another one, just from today: the breakfast cereal companies make a lot of money and used that to push the outright lie that "breakfast is the most important meal of the day". It's not. You'd actually be way better off skipping breakfast entirely:

The biggest lie is that cereal was the all-American breakfast. It's a late 19th Century Health Weirdo breakfast, with added sugar.

Until Kellogg the Health Freak Nutjob spent money to convince people otherwise, Americans ate oatmeal, pancakes or johnny cakes, scrapple ( a kind of corned beef hash, the Amish still eat it today), or yesterday's leftover pottage (whatever veggies and meats they had, simmering in the cauldron) with bread and perhaps seasonal fruit or salted beef they had, with hard cider or small beer.

WookieMan says

Age of the woman Patrick. I'm convinced of this. I'm gonna go Iwog on this and I believe he was right. Women/girls should have kids 16-25 when their bodies are the healthiest and at reproductive peak.

Because we need two income households women put it off until 30+. Vaccines could be the cause I suppose, but I think there's more to it. Dudes can plant their seed any time, I'd advise as early as possible with 2 kids. But women should not be having kids over the age of 30 in my opinion. The lifetime of their reproductive organs is literally halfway over by that time if not 60% done. Women go through menopause in their 40's sometimes. What's the outcome of that baby 5 year prior? Issues.

It's the age of the eggs that matter most, I agree. Sperm, not so much although they try to make a false equivalence; men produce spermatoa unto death and not much difference between 20 or 50 spermwise, other than a few with bad genetics. For women, there's a massive difference between 20 year old eggs and 40 year old eggs, even between 20 and 30 year old's eggs.

One clue is that idiot savants/elfin syndrome were once connected with the youngest child, that would be the one a woman might have well into her 30s.

Patrick says

You'd actually be way better off skipping breakfast entirely

I never have any appetite until almost noon.

AmericanKulak says

It's the age of the eggs that matter most, I agree. Sperm, not so much although they try to make a false equivalence; men produce spermatoa unto death and not much difference between 20 or 50 spermwise, other than a few with bad genetics. For women, there's a massive difference between 20 year old eggs and 40 year old eggs, even between 20 and 30 year old's eggs.

One clue is that idiot savants/elfin syndrome were once connected with the youngest child, that would be the one a woman might have well into her 30s.

Alright! I'm going to argue against this!

Lab mice have reproduction at a very young age, and as a result their telomeres elongated. Telomeres are a fail safe to prevent cancer - cancer is nothing more than an uncontrolled reproduction of cells. Telomeres are useless parts of DNA at the end of chromosomes that don't code for anything, but when a cell divides and duplicates, it cuts off a small portion of the telomere. When there is no telomeres left, you cells can't reproduce. Young animals have very long telomeres, older ones, not as long.

The advantage of having abnormally long telomeres is that cells can fix just about anything, any poison, any shock, but at the cost of leading to cancer at some point. So lab mice are abnormally resistant to shocks to their systems. They are mutants, but they die young due to cancer.

What happened is lab mice developed these extremely long telomeres because they all had children at a very young age, and the mice seemed to be immortal, BUT they all would develop cancer at some point as a result. There was no evolutionary pressure NOT to develop cancer, because ALL the mice stopped reproducing at a young age, so there was no limit imposed by evolution the telomere length.

Bret Weinstein argued this, and I suspect it doesn't just effect lab mice, but farm animals as well. I tried to contact him, but no response - so screw him.

Basically having habitual reproduction at a young age guarantees cancer, and later terms of pregnancy, guarantees faults in the genome but doing it at a later age will, in time, MIGHT increase longevity of the progeny just through evolutionary pressure.

SO if you want to increase the lifespan of people, don't have kids until AT LEAST 30. A good portion of them will die before they get to 30, but SOME will make it, then move up to 40, and 50, and 60 and so on.