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Putin is the NATO salesman of the year.


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2022 Mar 23, 3:14pm   16,833 views  122 comments

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New polls suggest more support for Finland joining Nato

A Helsingin Sanomat poll showed 54 percent support for Nato membership while three-quarters of Chambers of Commerce members said yes to joining the military alliance.

Yle News
23.3. 07:08
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Updated 23.3. 07:48

Helsingin Sanomat's (HS) most recent (siirryt toiseen palveluun) poll about Finland's possible Nato membership suggests that a slight majority of people in the country are in favour of joining the military alliance, with about 54 percent of respondents saying they would back such a move.

The proportion of a similar poll the paper carried out in early March (siirryt toiseen palveluun) was 48 percent in favour of joining.

About one-in-five of the poll's 1,062 respondents said they were against joining while one in four said they were unable to express an opinion on the matter.

The paper's poll further showed that men were more likely to support the move with 64 percent being in favour of membership compared to 45 percent of women.

Age group-wise, it was those aged between 60 and 69 that were most eager for Finland to join the military alliance. In contrast, just under half of respondents aged between 31 and 39 supported membership.
Three in four business managers say yes to membership

Nearly 75 percent of businesses belonging to Finland's Chamber of Commerce answered the burning membership question with a "yes."

Meanwhile out of the nearly 2,000 member companies just seven percent were against Nato membership and nearly 20 percent opted for 'cannot say.'


https://yle.fi/news/3-12372296?source=patrick.net

Swedish Top Politicians at Cold Response: Important Signal about Defense Cooperation

On 14 March, the Norwegian-led military exercise Cold Response 2022 started. It goes on in Norway, with main emphasis in the North, and takes place every other year, having participation from allied and partner countries.

This year, some 30,000 soldiers from a total of 27 countries are participating. These are NATO countries along with Sweden and Finland. This is the largest Norwegian-led exercise in Norway since the Cold War.

The exercise is to last until 1 April, according to the Joint Operations Headquarters, and has in recent days taken place in Nordland and Troms counties. The program also includes a series of visits from political and military leaders from the participating countries, such as the Swedish top politicians, as well as NATO leaders.

The Swedish forces’ brigade headquarters near Bjerkvik just outside Narvik were the destination of Swedish PM Magdalena Andersson (Social democrats) and opposition leader Ulf Kristersson (Moderates). The Swedish forces are localized together with Finnish forces in Skoglund Camp.

“This visit was very important. This exercise has been planned for a long time. It is important that we, based on the current security situation, send an important signal about there being interaction, cooperation and preparedness to defend our territories, the PM said at a joint press conference, according to Swedish daily Aftonbladet.

Sweden has some 1,600 soldiers involved, both land forces and fighter plane forces, according to the Swedish Armed Forces. These come a.o from the North Bothnia regiment, the country’s northernmost county. The Finnish battle group of 680 soldiers operates as a part of a Swedish brigade, according to the Finnish Armed Forces.
The NATO question

The PM and opposition leader’s joint visit to the military exercise took place at the behest of the former. Such an invitation across political borders was well received by the Moderates’ leader.

“When there is a war in Europe, we do all we can to cooperate”, Kristersson said during the visit, according to Aftonbladet.

Last Friday, he stated that if the Moderate Party wins the upcoming fall elections, Sweden will apply for NATO membership. Kristersson argues that he would prefer for the Swedish application to be submitted as early as this spring, along with a Finnish application, referring to both Swedish and Finnish debate about the NATO issue in light of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The Center Party, the Liberals and the Christian Democrats are also positive to Swedish membership in the Alliance. The Swedish Democrats do not rule out quick support of this line if the security situation so requires, according to Swedish radio.


https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/swedish-top-politicians-cold-response-important-signal-about-defense-cooperation?source=patrick.net

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89   Bd6r   2022 Jun 30, 3:33am  

richwicks says


From institutions that actually are still able to trade the currency. They don't care about politics or propaganda, they care about $$$$, only.

Now you are contradicting yourself. I gave you data about inflation originating from Russian sources, which show that a rouble buys less food etc, and you show me how much dollars can be bought with rouble, after saying that

richwicks says


Russia isn't experiencing any inflation in food, electricity, gasoline, anything. The US is.

richwicks says


When will you realize you're a useful idiot?

If I am a useful idiot, then I dont know who you are. You contradict yourself in space of 2 comments. That is not a show of high, or for that matter of any intelligence.
92   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 1, 6:17pm  

I'm all for NATO, as long as the US ain't in it.

It'll create an interesting situation for German and other European "No Nuke" states. Dependence on Britain and France, too. Might create a balance against Ger Money.
93   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 1, 6:20pm  

Trump was RIGHT.

94   richwicks   2022 Jul 1, 6:24pm  

Bd6r says


richwicks says


From institutions that actually are still able to trade the currency. They don't care about politics or propaganda, they care about $$$$, only.

Now you are contradicting yourself. I gave you data about inflation originating from Russian sources, which show that a rouble buys less food etc, and you show me how much dollars can be bought with rouble, after saying that



Well, I agree with Mises, that inflation is how much money exists. If Russia hasn't created more currency, it will drag down prices through competition. But yes, I was wrong about the common interpretation of inflation. The fact is though, the Ruble is extremely stable, for now - because Putin did something that hasn't been done in 5 decades, placed a floor on gold. He's tied the currency to a commodity - at least temporarily.

Bd6r says


richwicks says

richwicks says


Russia isn't experiencing any inflation in food, electricity, gasoline, anything. The US is.

richwicks says


When will you realize you're a useful idiot?

If I am a useful idiot, then I dont know who you are. You contradict yourself in space of 2 comments. That is not a show of high, or ...



Look, when was the last time the US government has been honest about Russia or in any war, or about anything?

They lied about the Iraq War, they lied about the Libyan war, Syrian war, they don't even mention Yemen or Somalia, they lied about the Afghanistan war.

They lied about the pandemic, they lied about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines, and the danger of the disease itself, they lied about Russian Collusion, and Russian hacking.

What have they told the truth about in the last 2 decades?

Well, the Ukraine war apparently.

I make errors certainly, but I don't lie, and I recognize patterns. Why can't you do this?

Our intelligence agencies have been caught now, recently, setting up false flags, and engaging in entrapment. Russia isn't a threat to us, our threats are domestic. Why can't you see that?

Russia wouldn't be in Ukraine, if the United States wasn't in Ukraine. When has US involvement ANYWHERE been beneficial to either the country they were involved with, the United States itself, or the people of this nation? US involvement in Ukraine is just going to get a few million people killed, that's it.

Could be wrong about that. Russia will minimize the number of causalities just as the US does. We'll never get an accurate number of the slaughter. How does this advantage the United States? Well, a few psychopaths are probably jerking off thinking about the carnage they caused, and a lot of Offence Contractors are sure to make money.

Of course the US is lying about the Ukraine/Russian conflict, they ONLY lie. I'm tired of it.

This is your honest, trustworthy, government:


original link

It's just a criminal syndicate. All they do is lie to us, blatantly, why do YOU take it? They think you're stupid, I'm certain you're not. You're not, why do you defend these assholes? Why do you think they are telling you the truth about Ukraine? This mother fucker's crackhead slut son "worked" at Burisma to funnel bribery money. This war in Ukraine would have NEVER happened if these mother fuckers were in jail, or executed, as they ought to be.

Somewhere, there's some poor kid, whose mother is a stripper, whose father is a crackhead, and whose grandfather is the president of the United States. How low are we going to go?
96   tomtomtom   2022 Aug 28, 7:44pm  

Now they need to build a new nightclub to accommodate Sanna and roll a train of cocaine a day. This is not a good deal for Nato.
98   Bd6r   2022 Sep 30, 1:47pm  

Note that transfer of 90% of troops from NATO-encircled Koenigsberg to Ukraine shows that it is not NATO putler is afraid of

99   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 30, 1:55pm  

Bd6r says


Note that transfer of 90% of troops from NATO-encircled Koenigsberg to Ukraine shows that it is not NATO putler is afraid of




Not only Koenigsberg, other places on the border with NATO too:

Since Russia first launched its invasion of Ukraine, Moscow has been peeling military forces away from its bases in Northern Europe to plug gaps in its forces suffering high losses and battlefield setbacks against Ukrainian troops.

Of an original estimated 30,000 Russian troops that once faced the Baltic countries and southern Finland, as many as 80 percent of them have been diverted to Ukraine, according to three senior European defense officials in the region, leaving Russia with only a skeleton crew in what was once its densest concentration of military force facing NATO territory.

“The drawdown we’ve seen from this region in the past seven months is very significant,” said one senior Nordic defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military matters. “Russia had this ground force posture facing us for decades that is now effectively just gone.”

...Russia is moving other high-end military hardware, including antiaircraft systems and missiles, away from the region to Ukraine alongside its troops. Russia appeared to remove some S-300 antiaircraft systems from a protective ring around St. Petersburg, one of Russia’s largest cities that is near Finland’s border, according to satellite imagery obtained by Finnish media outlet Yle this month. One missile basing area in the region, manned by Russia’s 500th Antiaircraft Missile Regiment, appeared to be abandoned entirely, according to the satellite imagery.


https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/28/russia-ukraine-war-nato-eastern-flank-military-kaliningrad-baltic-finland/

The obvious consclusion from all this is the sooner Ukraine is accepted to NATO the sooner Ruscia will feel safe and willing to remove their war criminals from Ukrainian territory (and even borders).
100   Bd6r   2022 Sep 30, 1:59pm  

Eric Holder says


Koenigsberg,

Kroliewiec, Karalauci, or Twangste after referendum for joining Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth
101   RWSGFY   2022 Oct 5, 9:10am  

Bd6r says

Eric Holder says



Koenigsberg,

Kroliewiec, Karalauci, or Twangste after referendum for joining Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth






102   RWSGFY   2022 Oct 5, 10:16am  



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577635915996008454

Poland’s president Andrzej Duda has revealed that Poland has entered into negotiations with the U.S. to enter the NATO nuclear sharing program.

American nukes are currently stored in Germany, Italy, Turkey, Belgium and the Netherlands within the program.


This won't have happened if Pukin didn't launch his SCHMO.
105   RWSGFY   2022 Oct 22, 11:02am  

BY BARTOSZ BRZEZINSKI
OCTOBER 22, 2022 2:50 PM

Hungary’s government supports the NATO membership of Sweden and Finland and has submitted the ratification documents to the National Assembly, Minister Gergely Gulyás told reporters at a briefing on Saturday.

Gulyás, chief of staff to Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, said the expansion of NATO to include the two Nordic countries would be ratified by mid-December at the latest, according to media reports.

Asked by a reporter if NATO would be getting stronger with Finland and Sweden joining, Gulyás replied that he hoped so.
106   RWSGFY   2023 Mar 30, 4:52pm  

BRUSSELS — Turkey’s parliament has voted to approve Finland’s NATO membership bid, paving the way for the Nordic country to join the security alliance.
..
Thursday’s vote was the last hurdle in Finland’s quest to join the military organization. Its eventual accession would remake European security, doubling NATO’s land border with Russia and bringing the full force of the alliance to Europe’s far north.
Turkey was the last holdout among NATO member countries, who need to approve new members unanimously. Once it notifies the United States that it has approved Finland’s bid, Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general of the alliance, will formally invite Finland to accede to the Washington Treaty, according to NATO.
109   HeadSet   2023 Apr 4, 11:17am  

ad says

Anyone see this about food inflation in Germany? it is 22% from March 2022 to March 2023 ...

Yep, driven by increased energy costs. And the recent slight decline in energy costs may be reversed by Saudis now cutting back on oil production.
110   socal2   2023 Apr 4, 12:13pm  

ad says

Anyone see this about food inflation in Germany? it is 22% from March 2022 to March 2023 ...

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-inflation-eases-less-than-expected-march-2023-03-30/#:~:text=Food%20prices%20continued%20to%20rise,costs%20for%20oil%20and%20gas.


I thought they were all supposed to freeze and/or starve to death this winter?
111   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 6, 6:10am  

A 'slight' departure from Zelensky's promise that the liberation of Crimea is something that cannot be negotiated.

I guess this means things aren't going so well for Ukraine and the New World Order Globalists?

Ukraine 'Ready' To Give Up Crimea, Says Zelensky Advisor

There has been much talk and reporting of the coming Spring counteroffensive by Ukraine forces, but with the fight for Bakhmut not going so well for Kiev, there's also been talk of the need for compromise, at a moment Ukrainian casualties in the east are believed to be high.

Last week we reported on President Volodymyr Zelensky's voicing rare doubts concerning Bakhmut - as if preparing his people for news of a devastating defeat. And now, on Wednesday, the Financial Times is reporting the single most important development to come out of the conflict in a long time: Zelensky's office says he's ready to compromise on the future of the Crimean peninsula.

Naturally, the Ukrainians present themselves as speaking from a position of having the upper hand, which is the general tone of the remarks that Andriy Sybiha, who is deputy head of Zelensky’s office, gave to FT. Per the publication, "Kyiv is willing to discuss the future of Crimea with Moscow if its forces reach the border of the Russian-occupied peninsula" - which marks the "most explicit statement of Ukraine’s interest in negotiations since it cut off peace talks with the Kremlin last April."
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-ready-give-crimea-says-zelensky-advisor
112   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 23, 10:50am  

Sweden's NATO Accession Protocol was signed by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and sent to the Turkish Grand National Assembly.


https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716458239858999398

Congrats to the Cretin of Kremlin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXBJRz_33Y8
113   socal2   2023 Oct 23, 10:54am  

New NATO members next door to Russia was Putin's plan all along!
114   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 23, 1:11pm  

The UN General Assembly has been called for an emergency meeting to approve renaming of Baltic Sea into more appropiate Lake NATO.
115   richwicks   2023 Oct 23, 6:36pm  

socal2 says

I thought they were all supposed to freeze and/or starve to death this winter?


They might.

The cavalier attitude of Americans creating another fucking war, is just grating. People like you have allowed our government to get away with making another fucking war. Fuck you.
116   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Oct 23, 6:47pm  

richwicks says

socal2 says


I thought they were all supposed to freeze and/or starve to death this winter?


They might.

The cavalier attitude of Americans creating another fucking war, is just grating. People like you have allowed our government to get away with making another fucking war. Fuck you.


it’s because we have no say or representation. none of us want war, government does what elites want. they don’t give fucks about us.

its not just americans, think russians or ukrainians have a say? fuck no they don’t, same as us here.
117   richwicks   2023 Oct 23, 6:55pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

it’s because we have no say or representation. none of us want war, government does what elites want. they don’t give fucks about us.

its not just americans, think russians or ukrainians have a say? fuck no they don’t, same as us here.


People only have power because people allow them to wield it.

Trudeau was acting like a complete dick in Canada (and still does), and when a FEW truckers got fed up with that shit, it ended. We could end all these wars TODAY is people just took a small amount of action.

I remember how the USSR fell. Basically, everybody just fucking had nothing to lose and they just stood up to their government, and that was it. I think there were protests for something like 6 months, and something like 500 people were killed during it, but when people just got fed up, it was over, in a DAY.

The reason Trudeau does DICK moves all the time, is to say "I have absolute power, fuck you, see, I can make you do this, or that, etc" - but he doesn't. It's a mind game.

The fight is pointing out that you can win against these people, easily.
118   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Oct 23, 7:18pm  

few truckers were funded and organized, trudeau froze that woman’s bank account t so she stopped protesting.

i don’t got that kind of money or clout.
119   Ceffer   2023 Oct 23, 7:27pm  

Eric Holder says

The UN General Assembly has been called for an emergency meeting to approve renaming of Baltic Sea into more appropiate Lake NATO.

Hold off on that thought. It might wind up being Lake Radioactive Steam, instead.
120   HeadSet   2023 Oct 23, 8:25pm  

Eric Holder says

The UN General Assembly has been called for an emergency meeting to approve renaming of Baltic Sea into more appropiate Lake NATO.

That is absurd, you KNOW that will never happen. "Lakes" are fresh water, they would have to name it NATO Sea.
121   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 23, 8:31pm  

HeadSet says


Eric Holder says


The UN General Assembly has been called for an emergency meeting to approve renaming of Baltic Sea into more appropiate Lake NATO.

That is absurd, you KNOW that will never happen. "Lakes" are fresh water, they would have to name it NATO Sea.



Don't worry, it's all taken
care of: they plan to dyke it up and de-salinize it in situ using solar, wind and unicorn farts energy. Just to rub it in.
122   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 23, 10:22pm  

Ceffer says

Eric Holder says


The UN General Assembly has been called for an emergency meeting to approve renaming of Baltic Sea into more appropiate Lake NATO.

Hold off on that thought. It might wind up being Lake Radioactive Steam, instead.


Sure. Just don't hold your breath. We'd miss you.

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