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I don't trust one organization that would bastardize the logo of an official organization to make it appear as if the supplement was FDA and AMA approved.
Also I wont take a generalized "Supplement" that claims to cure or relieve symptoms that is not sold by the herbal name on the bottle.

I trust this about as much as I trust Alex Jones male enhancement supplements.

They even hit the "Vegetarian" flavonoids.

You mean the FDA who says GMO's are fine to eat? The one staffed by big pharma and food industry execs(like Tyson)? The one's who approved spike protein shots for kids?

And you mean the AMA co-opted by Rockefeller's in the 30's? The ones who say it's fine to deny people treatment if they haven't taken the spike jabs? The ones who say to only study treatment, not prevention?

All regulatory agencies exist to stifle competition. All of them.

It's not some random supplement, it's one that contains the specific ingredients Dr. McCullough has studied and recommended for treating spike injections. But sure, as long as it's a reputable brand, use any company that produces a supplement using this same list of ingredients.

Vegetarian capsule products are common for supplements, has nothing to do with people being vegetarian, just more natural ways of creating the pill.

The specific's recommended by McCullough to fight spike protein infection:

1. Prescription Ivermectin

2. Prescription Low-Dose Naltrexone

3. Over-the-counter Nattokinase

The last one is the pill I linked to above.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sponsored-post/headline-dr-peter-mccullough-3-things-you-need-know-about-treating-spike-post-covid

Feels like grifting to me.

No one should be making money off of this.

Just curious, have you guys taken prescription medication? If so, please explain how that's not a grift, keeping in mind AMA and the medical industry was co-opted by Rockefeller in the 30's, and all alternative, commonly practiced, forms of medicine were phased out for a treatment only approach(no prevention).

If the article, and my comment literally lists the medications/supplements/ingredients, and you can source them from anywhere, whatever company seems reputable to you, I'm not seeing the logic behind the concern. Unless your answer to prescription meds is yes, then it fits perfectly into your world outlook.

Those articles have been removed. Got a new link?

NuttBoxer says

Just curious, have you guys taken prescription medication? If so, please explain how that's not a grift, keeping in mind AMA and the medical industry was co-opted by Rockefeller in the 30's, and all alternative, commonly practiced, forms of medicine were phased out for a treatment only approach(no prevention).

You assuming I was standing up for the AMA and the process of the FDA with my comment. Which is the furthest from the truth. I only said it got my Spidey senses tingling, by the copy and the layout of the bottle. One my first Enterprise One man Shop Gigs. Was writing the software, running the Network, and managing the prepress architecture for a mail order catalog. The copy he would write and explicit use of images and placed graphics was intentionally done.

In this day and age where we want to know what we are putting in our bodies I expect a multi supplement to just list the ingredients on the bottle. They can call it what ever they want, but put in parenthesis, that it's (Vitamin C, Zinc and Ivermectin) for example. I know exactly what that is, and why I'm buying it. I don't need a company to market it as "The Golden Elixir" while not calling it what it is.

joshuatrio says

Those articles have been removed. Got a new link?

Probably because of the copy and the claims, that goes against the FDA guidelines. Where as he just made his supplement and given it a name while even providing the ingredient list. Then just publish a paper on what that combination does, without one promoting the other, he would have been fine.

I think Covid did wonders in how the supplement business should work. Let the Doctors tell us what combinations have been studied to be effective. Then the supplement makers create it, without adding any claims. Leave it up to the educated consumer to know what that supplement is for. (Provided it's an otherwise harmless combination). We need to get back to Doctors writing papers on our health, and treating our health accordingly. Pfizer and the FDA aren't making pills to cure us.

More to my point, none of the alternative Covid convalescence were approved by the FDA or AMA.

Except for Ivermectin these are similar ingredients to those recommended for CFS/PVFS/ME. Nattokinase (and serrapeptase) are long known for their potentially blood clot dissolving and anti inflammatory benefits. Naltrexone has been controversial, but helped many for sure. I would buy these separate, whichever you need, and sort of agree that it should not be a moneymaker for anybody. That being said, McCullough has put a lot on the line, so he should get rewarded for it.

mell says

That being said, McCullough has put a lot on the line, so he should get rewarded for it.

Then he should start by firing his marketer. There's not a single element on that bottle that doesn't read like a cheap Snake Oil gimmick.
It's like the bottle was over simplified so Dr. Sebastian Gorka can read it fast in a Plug. Even the name of the product. Is named in conflict of what it does. Because "Support" sounds positive. Hopefully one isn't taking it to support the Spike Proteins. You're trying to get rid of them.

Tenpoundbass says

mell says

That being said, McCullough has put a lot on the line, so he should get rewarded for it.

Then he should start by firing his marketer. There's not a single element on that bottle that doesn't read like a cheap Snake Oil gimmick.
It's like the bottle was over simplified so Dr. Sebastian Gorka can read it fast in a Plug. Even the name of the product. Is named in conflict of what it does. Because "Support" sounds positive. Hopefully one isn't taking it to support the Spike Proteins. You're trying to get rid of them.

Yeah it's poorly done. Nattokinase is great though, one of the reasons why fermented soy is ok to enjoy. I'd buy the supplements separately anyways, you usually get better quality and price

All good points, and as Mell said, don't need the links, which I didn't realize where sponsored(paid). Just go by the list I got from the second link, no gimmicks there, you know exactly what you're getting, and exactly what to look for.

I'm not a big fan of anything made in a lab, and Ivmectin was hard to get a hold of, so during the Scamdemic, I looked up natural alternatives, and that's how I found sweet wormwood. That stuff is one of the most amazing anti-inflammatory's I've ever used.

Always buy from reputable manufacturers, reputable sellers, and always verify what's in it. Doesn't matter if they call it God's nectar, as long as you follow those steps, you'll be all good.

I buy multi supplements all the time. If they are put together and the copy on the bottle is informative rather than suggestive. I would rather buy it, than buying the individual bottles of what is in the multi supplement. The big benefit to buying it in one pill, is so your liver isn't over taxed in the inert delivery ingredients. Which I understand is very bad on your liver, all pills are bad on your liver. Even if the substance, drug, or supplement is harmless. The less pills or vitamins you have to take the better for you. So yeah I'm all over a multi supplement so I don't have to take 5 or 6 individual pills..

Certain supplements also absorb better when combined with specific ingredients. And this is the biggest drawback with supplements, the amount that doesn't absorb, but instead passes straight through.