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Wolfman at WolfStreet website has been showing used car prices have steadily been decreasing over last 12 to 18 months.
That was true for a while but the past couple of months or so used car prices have been going back up again:
I've owned numerous Toyota and Lexus vehicles over the past 35 years; currently a Lexus LS 460 and a new GX with the last of the V-8's. Both are bullet proof. My one rule is to only buy a Lexus built in a Japanese factory - they seem to make the best product
My one rule is to only buy a Lexus built in a Japanese factory - they seem to make the best product
desertguy says
My one rule is to only buy a Lexus built in a Japanese factory - they seem to make the best product
How can you tell where it was built? I assume some website + VIN?
GNL says
desertguy says
My one rule is to only buy a Lexus built in a Japanese factory - they seem to make the best product
How can you tell where it was built? I assume some website + VIN?
Japan-built cars have VINs starting with J. US-built - 1.
Japan-built cars have VINs starting with J. US-built - 1.
Everyone I know with Chevy, Nissan, Kia, and Hamdani all at some point in their two to three year lease, have to take their car to the dealer to get repaired. Ranging from serious, to just minor stuff, but none the less, I have not had one experience.
B.A.C.A.H. says
Japan-built cars have VINs starting with J. US-built - 1.
I got a 20 year old rusty but reliable Toyota Corolla with VIN starting with J. However, are Subarus, Mazdas made in Japan are not as reliable? Why?
My experiences with the US-built Toyotas suggest to me that the quality and reliability problems with US models is not due to the workers on the factory floors. It's the engineering, whose imperatives come from the management. Kind of like Boeing with its 737 MAX.
desertguy says
a new GX with the last of the V-8's
When did they build the last of the V-8's?
GNL says
desertguy says
My one rule is to only buy a Lexus built in a Japanese factory - they seem to make the best product
How can you tell where it was built? I assume some website + VIN?
Japan-built cars have VINs starting with J. US-built - 1.
If they are leasing new cars wouldn't the issues mentioned all be under warranty?
gabbar says
desertguy says
a new GX with the last of the V-8's
When did they build the last of the V-8's?
The LX has already transitioned to a twin turbo V6, same with the LS. For the GX, 2023 is last year of the production run with a V8, which started in 2009, which is one of the reasons the 2022 and 23 are so bullet proof. Next year complete redesign.
zzyzzx says
If they are leasing new cars wouldn't the issues mentioned all be under warranty?
Of course, but I expect a new car to not have a single issue where a mechanic is involved, for at least 4 years.
Aside from maintenance, or damaged caused by an accident.
desertguy says
gabbar says
desertguy says
a new GX with the last of the V-8's
When did they build the last of the V-8's?
The LX has already transitioned to a twin turbo V6, same with the LS. For the GX, 2023 is last year of the production run with a V8, which started in 2009, which is one of the reasons the 2022 and 23 are so bullet proof. Next year complete redesign.
The GX had a V8 in the 03-09 model years too.
4.7L timing belt equipped V8
However, I’ve had too many 200k+ mile cars on original timing belts to consider paying $2k service for a $6-7k car.
Nope
I’ve had water pumps go after 50k on some cars and never go on others. When they go I replace them. Sure, it could happen at an inopportune time but again, I’ll take that risk.
My current Lexus is 22yrs old and has 166k miles on the original timing belt and water pump.
If you are replacing a timing belt, you’d be crazy not to do the water pump at the same time.
Also, I’ve seen 200k timing belts that appeared to have no visible wear that I could detect by eye.
Supposedly C8 Corvettes have dropped to MSRP as of this month
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I can confirm that without question, used car prices are dropping. Cars are sitting on the market longer, dealers are more willing to negotiate, and buyer pools are decreasing compared to just 6mo ago.
We haven’t even scratched the surface of the repos coming in CY23 from the volume of people who took out big loans over the last two years at near 0 prime rate who are now underwater.
Also, the chip industry is catching up to the shortage that existed in the pandemic which is further flooding the market.
2023 will be a great time to buy a used car.