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https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/disorder-is-the-order-of-the-day/

... I guess our cyber-security isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. But then, neither is our war effort in Ukraine. Yes, our war effort. We own this war from tail to snout, lock, stock, and barrel, the whole shootin’ match. We started it (in 2014, when we began the preps there), we goaded the Russians into it in bad faith, and now we’re losing it. Why? Because it was a stupid venture from the get-go. Now, it’s really a matter of how psychotic our government’s reaction will be when the Russians restore order to the place.

Restore order? That’s right. I believe that’s what they’re aiming to do. Our country went into Ukraine to create disorder in that corner of the world — which has been within Russia’s sphere-of-influence for over three hundred years, you understand. ...

The mysterious “Joe Biden” regime, in its brief two-plus years of service, has proven especially adept at creating fiascos. Are they aiming for the gold ring in this Ukraine gambit, that is, nuclear war? People seriously wonder. Or is something else going on? Blogger (and ex-CIA agent) Larry Johnson says the leak was done for a specific purpose, namely to shove “Joe Biden” out of the White House. Yes, our Deep State is at it again. Why, because “Joe Biden” can no longer be trusted to even pretend he’s chief executive. (Well, maybe they shouldn’t have installed him in the first place.)

Larry also reminds us that, conveniently, an Obama-era whistleblower named Mike McCormick, who accompanied Veep Joe Biden’s delegation to Ukraine in 2014, has stepped forward to detail Biden family grifting operations there, with the help of then-aide (now National Security Advisor) Jake Sullivan. It’s like somebody is laying out a case for impeachment — or resignation. One really off-the-wall theory floating “out there” has Veep Kamala Harris being induced to take Dianne Feinstein’s senate seat (DF, 89, is very ill), and “Joe Biden” then appointing Barack Obama to be Veep — with BHO stepping back into the White House when “JB” exits (or gets exited). Note, the XXII Amendment only prohibits a person from being “elected” president more than twice. No mention of appointment. Now there’s a real Catch-22! ...

Whatever the Mike McCormick whistleblower matter means, it’s only an additional layer to the rotten onion of Biden family corruption, the millions of dollars flowing into their bank accounts from all over the planet. This treasonous business has been right in America’s face for three years. The Hunter Biden laptop alone is crammed with hard evidence of felonies that the federal justice system has willfully managed to ignore. Rep. James Comer’s House Oversight Committee sits on a raft of Biden family bank records detailing hundreds of flagged suspicious transactions. ...

In the meantime, though, we’re likely to see the collapse of the Ukraine war effort. The recriminations from that should be huge, with calls for General Milley and SecDef Austin to step down just for starters and turmoil through the Pentagon command. Imagine also the confused rage of American voters who watched over $100-billion squandered on this stupid misadventure, including the estimated $300-million that Mr. Zelensky stuffed in his pockets.

Also, in the meantime, watch the rapidly accelerating move away from the dollar in global trade settlements as many other nations lose confidence in the floundering USA. That, of course, will affect the value of the dollar. The Federal Reserve will be helpless to manage the consequences of that, and the problem will be hugely aggravated if other nations start dumping the US Treasury bonds and bills they hold. In short, at the same time the Ukraine is lost and the “Joe Biden” regime falls apart, we get a king-hell financial crisis combined with a cratering on the-ground economy. Things stop moving, including food.

Triple-also, in the meantime, the spooky question of Covid vaccine deaths rises to the previously resistant public’s attention, and they realize that they have been poisoned by their own government, now in ominous convulsion. All of this will make starkly clear that America suffers a dangerous leadership vacuum. This is not civil war. This is something else. But what?

Strange. One gets the impression that Kuntsler might regard it all as a stroke of bad luck management instead of the execution of the planned destruction of America. So, is Obama supposed to complete the task of getting us into WWIII with nukes for real? Biden has been dead for a while and Obama has become more exposed than he thought he ever would be. Will they have another fake Federal trial like Jizzlaine and Sam for a masked Biden? Only time will tell.

As far as the obvious false flag 'leak', means, motive and opportunity are still a bit up in the air. The Deep State are always acting out of preening arrogance, now, but seldom out of logic or reason. Are the corruptocrats finally getting tapped out?

An opinion cited here. Having an obvious patsy ploy does not bode well that DS isn't up to something. Maybe they want an excuse to back out of a bad situation that continues to deteriorate and this their message in a bottle, since all 'official' proclamations are obligatory lies and propaganda. Backdoor reportage?
It is interesting that Mossad is somehow fingered in the Israeli riots. Lower management making a move, or just disinfo? It's all really just more guess work until there is substantiation and things triangulate.
This is what you would call the 'pleadings' stage where the accusations are framed. The verification, proof and examination phases later.

https://t.me/riseofthenewmedia/2138

AND another opinion in the planned leak corner, with motive cited. Started with British news front that's British Intel? Always somehow winds up back with them, doesn't it?:

https://t.me/FirstAmendmentPraetorian/36771
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1646974102618480641?ref_src=patrick.net

The crash landing with respect to us foreign policy?

You mean when they finally admit that the deep state runs foreign policy under the direction and to the pleasure of the globalists Satanic cabal?

Patrick says

This is not civil war. This is something else. But what?

We haven’t heard from the kid Texiera yet. But he could be another Snowden. THe military seems to have a lot of trouble keeping classified documents secure.

Ceffer says

As far as the obvious false flag 'leak', means,

I don’t think it is obviously anything. It seems most plausible that just like with the train derailments, explosions and hazardous materials/radioactive leaks that America is full of incompetent people who can’t seem to do anything without causing a problem of some sort.

PeopleUnited says

The crash landing with respect to us foreign policy?

You mean when they finally admit that the deep state runs foreign policy under the direction and to the pleasure of the globalists Satanic cabal?

No, it's when Ukraine gets crushed, NATO has to admit defeat, and this entire war was nothing but the mass murder of many many Ukrainians, and probably about 1/6th the number of Russians.

There's no sides to support in a war. I don't understand the purpose of propaganda, it's not like the propaganda will change anything here. Our politicians do whatever they want to do, and Russians aren't going to hear US propaganda - they LAUGH at it. This is from a RUSSIAN source, because Morgan Freeman got embarrassed and removed it:


original link

The Russians OPENLY mock US propaganda now. Just like we used to mock Russian propaganda 40 years ago.

This war was just the latest string of Neocon failures, and that's all they do, is fail. Either they're legitimately a 5th column, or they are just the most incompetent assholes ever to run our State Department. They have no reverse gear, even when it's blatantly clear they fucked up, they keep fucking up, and make it as bad as possible. What did we get out of Afghanistan, or Syria? What did we get out of Libya?

You could argue we got SOMETHING out of the Ukraine / Russian war - we ended most energy shipments to Europe. We're the suppliers now. If Russia is ENTIRELY dependent on China for export of energy, China controls the price. They're going to have to make deal with India, direct deals.

https://babylonbee.com/news/ferrari-driving-zelensky-reminds-americans-of-the-importance-of-filing-your-taxes

PeopleUnited says

We haven’t heard from the kid Texiera yet. But he could be another Snowden. THe military seems to have a lot of trouble keeping classified documents secure.

Controlled leak.

21-year old Guardsmen don't get access to big picture documents. If they do, the real story is our shitty intelligence security.

This is my latest post. It's here to demonstrate a bug.

AmericanKulak says

PeopleUnited says

We haven’t heard from the kid Texiera yet. But he could be another Snowden. THe military seems to have a lot of trouble keeping classified documents secure.

Controlled leak.

21-year old Guardsmen don't get access to big picture documents. If they do, the real story is our shitty intelligence security.

He was doing maintenance on computers and stumbled across the files. It might have been a set up to get him to do it, or it might just be incompetence in security measures. But either way it seems reasonable that he made the decision on his own to leak the info.

richwicks says

No, it's when Ukraine gets crushed, NATO has to admit defeat, and this entire war was nothing but the mass murder of many many Ukrainians, and probably about 1/6th the number of Russians.

Ukraine was crushed the moment they became “independent “ of Russia and gave up their nukes. It just took a couple of decades for the chickens to come home to roost.

No doubt there are more dead Ukrainians than dead Russians in this proxy war with the US.

It would have ended in days if not for the US meddling in it. It won’t end until US stops meddling or Ukraine decides enough people have died.

RWSGFY says

You know Ukraine has already lost, right? They are fucked for decades barring massive western support that simply will never materialize given the current global economic situation. An entire generation of men lost, thousands dispersed into the diaspora most to never come back to that shit hole, and an infrastructure disaster.

What exactly does victory mean?

PeopleUnited says

Ukraine was crushed the moment they became “independent “ of Russia and gave up their nukes. It just took a couple of decades for the chickens to come home to roost.

Russia didn't care as long as they remained neutral and wouldn't host NATO weaponry.

Russia really doesn't care about the civil war in Ukraine that started in 2014, they don't care about people, but that's their excuse for this war. Ukraine should have taken away that excuse.

And you don't understand nuclear weaponry, Ukraine never controlled them. They were Russian nuclear weapons. Russia knew where all of them were located, because they placed them there, and they had the lockcodes on them, and their direction and where they impacted. Stop thinking people are stupid, they're not.

I studied Russian encryption, in some ways, it was superior in our own. It was slower, but it was more complex. Their version of DES had 4 more rounds, and was randomized based on the key. They used SBoxes just like we do, and the US bragged they reduced it to 16, but was it superior? I don't know, encryption is very difficult and I'm not a mathematician. You can say that the USSR stole our technological knowledge, but it's just as likely, we stole theirs.

PeopleUnited says

No doubt there are more dead Ukrainians than dead Russians in this proxy war with the US.

It would have ended in days if not for the US meddling in it. It won’t end until US stops meddling or Ukraine decides enough people have died.

Our government doesn't care how many die. If every single Ukrainian is killed, if it weakens Russia by 0.01%, they're fine with it. If it destroys the US economy and Europe, they're OK with that too. Psychopaths run our nation - they REALLY do, and that's the problem is people just can't believe it.

How's Palestine Ohio doing? Oh, it's not in the news, out of sight out of mind. If every East Palestinian in Ohio drops dead in 3 years, they don't give a shit, it will never show up in the "news" anyhow.

And you won't remember. Remember Dawit Kelete? Remember him? Out of sight out of mind. It's entirely true.

richwicks says

And you don't understand nuclear weaponry,

What I do know is that electronics are reprogrammable but the materials for making nuclear weapons are much harder to come by. If Ukraine was smart, they would have stripped down their nukes, reprogrammed them and made them functional while at the same time making them unavailable to anyone else. But they sacrificed liberty for “peace and safety “ in the end they got what they deserved, neither liberty nor peace.richwicks says

Stop thinking people are stupid, they're not.

Ukraine was stupid, they gave up their only bargaining chip. And after that the West made them pay for it, and now Russia is returning the favor.
richwicks says

Psychopaths run our nation

No, that is not the whole truth. Satanic globalists run the world. There are satanic globalist minions in places of power across the country and across the world. And they are skilled at manipulating everyone to do their bidding. World War II is a prime example, but they have been at work for centuries shaping the world through their control of the world banks.

@PeopleUnited

I'm too tired to write html right now:

Ukraine abandoned their liberty and peace when they allowed the United States government to enact a coup against them and allowed this to lead to a civil war. Western Ukraine abandoned democratic values.

Nuclear weapons have to be periodically refined. Even when the weapon is sitting still, the warhead degrades and produces heat and gamma radiation, it's a nuclear tip, it degrades in time, and you have to go through refinement to make it usable again. It's refinement of isotopes, and it's not trivial. We used to use gas diffusion to do this, but we have better methods now, but it's still laborious. The complexity involved is so stunning, it's surprising anybody has nuclear weapons at all.

And what is the difference between psychopaths and "Satanic globalists"? A psychopath will agree to any ideology if they believe it advantages them.

The difference is that most Americans, including those that run the courts, police, elections, etc.. are regular people, not psychopaths nor satanist.

On the other hand, the satanist globalists who run the world are coordinated: working together with other satanist globalists. These globalists are using psychopaths as wall as sane people, manipulating both to do their will and consolidate the satanist control. So it only seems like psychopaths are in control, but really the globalists manipulating the psychopaths are at war with God, His people, and the principle of liberty and justice for all. Satan wants to be worshipped in place of God, his goal is that everything and everyone who stands in the way of that must be destroyed. Satan therefore promotes everything God hates. Until you understand the hidden agenda (aka the spiritual realm and spiritual warfare) you babble on about things you haven’t even comprehended.

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-warns-that-if-debt-ceiling-isnt-raised-we-might-default-on-our-obligations-to-ukraine

Belgorod is liberated:

A Russian warplane dropped a bomb on a Russian city of more than 400,000 people late Thursday, leaving a crater 40 meters (130 feet) across, blowing a car onto a roof and damaging buildings in what state media called an “emergency release of an air ordnance.”
A Russian Su-34 aircraft, a twin-engine fighter-bomber, released the munition over the city of Belgorod, 40 kilometers (24.8 miles) north of the border with Ukraine, according to reports from state news agencies RIA Novosti and TASS.

This is some very harrowing trench war footage.

You can see the Russians just a few feet away throwing grenades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZ3mPNxF_w

RWSGFY says

Belgorod is liberated:

A Russian warplane dropped a bomb on a Russian city of more than 400,000 people late Thursday, leaving a crater 40 meters (130 feet) across, blowing a car onto a roof and damaging buildings in what state media called an “emergency release of an air ordnance.”
A Russian Su-34 aircraft, a twin-engine fighter-bomber, released the munition over the city of Belgorod, 40 kilometers (24.8 miles) north of the border with Ukraine, according to reports from state news agencies RIA Novosti and TASS.

Go easy on them, it’s not like the US never dropped a bomb on its own people while fighting a proxy war to make the world safe for democracy.

PeopleUnited says

RWSGFY says

Belgorod is liberated:

A Russian warplane dropped a bomb on a Russian city of more than 400,000 people late Thursday, leaving a crater 40 meters (130 feet) across, blowing a car onto a roof and damaging buildings in what state media called an “emergency release of an air ordnance.”
A Russian Su-34 aircraft, a twin-engine fighter-bomber, released the munition over the city of Belgorod, 40 kilometers (24.8 miles) north of the border with Ukraine, according to reports from state news agencies RIA Novosti and TASS.

Go easy on them, it’s not like the US never dropped a bomb on its own people while fighting a proxy war to make the world safe for democracy.

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/04/18/9-11-hijackers-cia-recruits/

Bombshell filing: 9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits

Fucking told you.

richwicks says

Bombshell filing: 9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits

Yeah that makes sense. Every good Muslim is just waiting to be recruited by the CIA to do a suicide mission. Allah commands all good Muslims to go to work for the CIA.

The only part that doesn’t make sense is they claim the CIA Muslims were on the plane that hit the pentagon, but I thought the plane hitting the pentagon was a farce.

I guess that’s OK, if the CIA is good enough to recruit Muslims willing to kill themselves for an American directed false flag attack then those guys are good at what they do, and can probably blow up the pentagon with whatever they want, planes, missiles, probably even a pizza delivery sedan.

PeopleUnited says

Yeah that makes sense. Every good Muslim is just waiting to be recruited by the CIA to do a suicide mission.

Who said they were good muslims?

Our CIA was involved in 9/11. Our government killed around 3,000 people to start an endless series of war, to prop up the MIC, and create the bullshit "war on terror".

PeopleUnited says

The only part that doesn’t make sense is they claim the CIA Muslims were on the plane that hit the pentagon, but I thought the plane hitting the pentagon was a farce.

A plane clearly hit the pentagon. The question is, how did a hijacked commercial airliner enter the most restricted airspace to hit the national headquarters of the department of defense?

Well, that's because it was the plan. Our government COMMONLY kills people to make martyrs.

Until the people that did 9/11 are rooted out, and executed, we remain in danger. Our government has betrayed us.

richwicks says

Who said they were good muslims?

Who else is crazy enough to kill themselves for an op?

richwicks says

Until the people that did 9/11 are rooted out, and executed,

Well most of them are dead. Though we don’t know who planted the explosives in the towers. richwicks says

we remain in danger.

We will always be in danger. But what is more dangerous than the inherent danger of living in a fallen world is the hubris to think your actions can remove the danger.

The only safety comes from knowing Jesus: 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Until the people that did 9/11 are rooted out, and executed,

Well most of them are dead. Though we don’t know who planted the explosives in the towers.

Why do you think that is? Weird I know, but our "intelligence agencies" don't know. Isn't that odd? I guess I'm some sort of super genius, or my government is run by traitors.

PeopleUnited says

The only safety comes from knowing Jesus

I envy your faith, but it's impossible for me. It's said that that the first sip from the cup of natural science makes one an atheist, but at the bottom of the cup, God awaits. I'm still drinking, but it's quite a large drink. If I finish that cup, I don't think I'll find what you believe in. I think I'll find what I believed in at 3, seriously. I think if there is a God it's innate in us, and it's perverted through organized religion. We don't have to be taught it, we're born with it.

We don't need to be taught, there's no central religious leaders, there's no way to exploit it monetarily, it's just within us all. IF there is a god.

richwicks says

A plane clearly hit the pentagon you said. Yet you know that there is no way a big lunkering airliner could pass through that airspace and at that low altitude without being diverted or shot down. The question is, how can people believe that a hijacked commercial airliner could enter the most restricted airspace to hit the national headquarters of the department of defense?

It couldn't have been a missle?
And how about the 4th plane that crashed into the forest and buried itself? lol

PeopleUnited says

It won’t end until US stops meddling or Ukraine decides enough people have died

It won’t end until US decides to end it. Ukraine doesn't have a say in the decision.

Good links to see maps/TOEs/OOBs from Ukr-Rus fight?

Please no brazenly biased sources either way.

richwicks says

I envy your faith, but it's impossible for me. It's said that that the first sip from the cup of natural science makes one an atheist, but at the bottom of the cup, God awaits. I'm still drinking, but it's quite a large drink. If I finish that cup, I don't think I'll find what you believe in. I think I'll find what I believed in at 3, seriously. I think if there is a God it's innate in us, and it's perverted through organized religion. We don't have to be taught it, we're born with it.

I wish you the best of luck.

For me, it was Neo-Spontaneous Generation and comprehending that a Cell Membrane/Wall, An energy and digestive system to power the building of it, and some kind of primitive RNA/DNA system would have to have arisen simultaneously in the exact same place and time, and the details about amino acids and chirality.

Monkeys typing out Shakespeare doesn't capture the fact that the typewriter, letters, and English language are required just to give the monkeys a chance to evolve the Complete Works.

May the eureka moment happen some way to you (this is not intended to be sarcastic or condescending)

komputodo says

It couldn't have been a missle?

It could have been a missile, but why waste a plane of victims?

komputodo says

And how about the 4th plane that crashed into the forest and buried itself? lol

I think flight 93 was headed toward WTC7.

I don't know of course, but if it ran into WTC7, that would explain that hole.

komputodo says

PeopleUnited says

It won’t end until US stops meddling or Ukraine decides enough people have died

It won’t end until US decides to end it. Ukraine doesn't have a say in the decision.

Well when they run out of bodies for the meat grinder that pretty much ends it.

richwicks says

Bombshell filing: 9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits

Either the planes flew themselves into their targets or Muslims flew them into their targets on a suicide mission.

I still would like to know why anyone believes the CIA could recruit a bunch of Muslims to carry out an American false flag attack that would clearly cause retaliation against other Muslims. What is the motive for the suicide attackers?

PeopleUnited says

Well when they run out of bodies for the meat grinder that pretty much ends it.

you mean when the usa stops funding mercs?

PeopleUnited says

Either the planes flew themselves into their targets or Muslims flew them into their targets on a suicide mission.

refresh my memory please...what proof is there that muzzies did it?

komputodo says

refresh my memory please...what proof is there that muzzies did it?

They have the hijackers on multiple cameras. There's video throughout the Muslim world celebrating.

Also the widespread celebrations. It's what made Fjordman into a Culture Warrior, he was a Norwegian Student, good Democratic Socialist, studying Arabic when massive celebrations were unleashed on the streets of Cairo and he was invited to parties with cakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOp-TiG_Nug
Bush was very concerned about anti-Muslim sentiment, and that indeed there was a private charter flight of Saudis allowed out of the USA. They originally lawyer-lied by saying "No Commercial Flights" as a deliberate half-truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rkmIAnfDVY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UucjbGmJILk

There's evidence going way on back.

My personal belief is that they knew and somebody interposed to stop any close monitoring or intervention. Also, the fib has traditionally goofed things they were supposed to be keeping tabs on, or found scapegoats, like the Egyptian Air Force Officer in WTC #1. I think there was one case after 911 where they had the Fibs watching a guy closely and the agent fell asleep eating pistachios or something and the guy made it to Midway and on the plane undetected.

Finally, @patrick put up something about the Saudi Safehouse in LA a few months back, if I recall right.