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Same thing that always happens in war. Innocent people die, sociopaths gain power.

Zelenski just called for more patriot missle. Every time we send him some, all Ukraine has to show for it, is their own bombed out Ethnic Russian villages and apartment buildings. I mean if Russia was just indiscriminately bombing Ukey villages, they why wouldn't they just blitz Kiev?

Tenpoundbass says

Zelenski just called for more patriot missle. Every time we send him some

I'm not sure we're actually sending weapons.

I suspect that we send money, with which they place "orders" for weapons, while keeping 25% for themselves. The 75% comes back to the US and is used to pay off the people who voted to send the money, with 10% for the big guy, of course.

A huge money laundering scheme, like Assange said and went to jail for.

Pukin took Kyiv in 72 hours as predicted by our venerable "intelligence communitay" and is running an elaborate CGI campaign to dupe patnet into thinking that there is a "war" going on. Thankfully Gonzalo Lira has blown the cover from that hoax (and was slain by the SBU for doing it).

I don't have a pony in this race. But first who cares? We waste plenty of money on worse things people don't even know about. Two, if estimates are accurate both countries are fucked for a couple generations demographically. Ukraine can farm when this is all done regardless of who wins. Russia needs Western assistance to operate its natural gas and oil extraction industry. They've all left because of sanctions.

I think Ukraine ultimately loses, but Russia will 100% be the economic loser. The biggest winner is likely the middle east gas and oil producers as Russian output is slowed or they can't export because they don't have the surplus.

Either way two corrupt nations fighting it out over a tiny strip of land is kind of comical outside of the death. There was zero reason to go to war over this. So along with the economic issues and the reason to go to war, Russia is the loser already even if they "win" militarily and kill off a generation of young men.

WookieMan says

if estimates are accurate both countries are fucked for a couple generations demographically.

They aren't..hard to understand why anyone would believe any stats or numbers put out by the gov and MSM.WookieMan says

Russia needs Western assistance to operate its natural gas and oil extraction industry. They've all left because of sanctions.

Only the west knows how to extract oil and gas?WookieMan says

Either way two corrupt nations fighting it out over a tiny strip of land is kind of comical outside of the death.

Do you mean the usa and russia?WookieMan says

Russia is the loser already even if they "win" militarily and kill off a generation of young men.

a thousand or so MERCs is a generation of young men?

The Russians have surrendered to Zelensky, and Putin is in prison in Kiev awaiting trial for war crimes.

Moscow has become a NATO protectorate, with Rockefellers granted the oil and gas Russian franchises.

The ruble is worthless, because Putin had to surrender all gold reserves as a condition of peace.

Patrick says

with 10% for the big guy, of course.

Of course. That’s the biggest benefit of the war, for the big Guy who won’t put an end to the war. This is Bidets war.

komputodo says

They aren't..hard to understand why anyone would believe any stats or numbers put out by the gov and MSM.

I don't know? A more neutral source I suppose: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/ukraine-war-likely-to-stretch-past-2023-purported-us-documents#:~:text=Ukraine%20has%20suffered%20124%2C500%20to,Assessed%20Combat%20Sustainability%20and%20Attrition%E2%80%9D.

komputodo says

Only the west knows how to extract oil and gas?

Russia uses 3rd party Western contractors to run their rigs. They won't have the ability to bring them back online if they shut them down: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-puts-rosneft-deutschland-under-trusteeship-2022-09-16/

komputodo says

Do you mean the usa and russia?

Every government is corrupt. Not sure your point. No one said the US isn't. They're actually being blatantly obvious about what is going on: https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2022

komputodo says

a thousand or so MERCs is a generation of young men?

It's far more than 10,000 deaths. You think Russians and Ukrainians are going to tell the truth? You ever meet one? Work with one? Do business with one? I'm also not just talking military losses. They're fleeing the country: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/where-have-russians-been-fleeing-since-mobilisation-began-2022-10-06/

Believe any spin you want, but Russia in the end loses this war on paper. It doesn't matter if they get the land they want. It will have caused generational issues over a strip of land. They already had a bridge to Crimea. Sea lanes to Crimea. This is a war between two drunks and we put a wager on one.

Ceffer says

The Russians have surrendered to Zelensky, and Putin is in prison in Kiev awaiting trial for war crimes.

Moscow has become a NATO protectorate, with Rockefellers granted the oil and gas Russian franchises.

The ruble is worthless, because Putin had to surrender all gold reserves as a condition of peace.

You forgot the part where ethnic Russians have to leave Ukraine, Transnistria, East Prussia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and the parts of Finland that Russia still occupies, Georgia (the country, not the US state), and Kazakhstan, and Russia has to accept them. Japan also get a few disputed islands back. Poland can take the newly vacated East Prussia or let them and Lithuania divide it as they see fit.

Ceffer says

The Russians have surrendered to Zelensky, and Putin is in prison in Kiev awaiting trial for war crimes.

Moscow has become a NATO protectorate, with Rockefellers granted the oil and gas Russian franchises.

The ruble is worthless, because Putin had to surrender all gold reserves as a condition of peace.

And Xi is begging biden to leave China in peace.

WookieMan says

Every government is corrupt. Not sure your point. No one said the US isn't. They're actually being blatantly obvious about what is going on:

I wasn't making a point. I was curious what 2 nations you were referring to.

This happened.

Seems the Cameraman thought it was a nuke for a few seconds as he ducks down. That's a lot of solid rocket fuel exploding all at once.

https://twitter.com/Whatfinger1/status/1653458384283406336?ref_src=patrick.net

AmericanKulak says

This happened.

Seems the Cameraman thought it was a nuke for a few seconds as he ducks down. That's a lot of solid rocket fuel exploding all at once.

https://twitter.com/Whatfinger1/status/1653458384283406336?ref_src=patrick.net

If you look around, there has been some pretty cool videos explosions of ammo dumps and mines stacked up.

Patrick says

I suspect that we send money, with which they place "orders" for weapons, while keeping 25% for themselves. The 75% comes back to the US and is used to pay off the people who voted to send the money, with 10% for the big guy, of course.

I think that we are giving them credit to use at mostly US defense contractors, and sometimes we are paying other people in (Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, etc.) to repair things like tanks, and for ammunition that works in Soviet era artillery. As to how exactly Biden is skimming his cut is unclear, but I'm sure it's happening.

zzyzzx says

If you look around, there has been some pretty cool videos explosions of ammo dumps and mines stacked up.

That's what's strange, the explosions are often beautiful and I feel guilty thinking that is the case.

Ceffer says

zzyzzx says

If you look around, there has been some pretty cool videos explosions of ammo dumps and mines stacked up.

That's what's strange, the explosions are often beautiful and I feel guilty thinking that is the case.

GOD is watching you.

zzyzzx says

As to how exactly Biden is skimming his cut is unclear, but I'm sure it's happening.

As if the common folk could ever know how he is skimming.

komputodo says

GOD is watching you.

I'm too boring for GOD or the FBI. It does seem DARPA posts regular honey pot 'friend' bait to my vestigial Facebook account, but they may do that to everybody.

komputodo says

As if the common folk could ever know how he is skimming.

I read that Arkansas family court system is requiring Hunter Biden to provide his income and savings information in regards to his child support case. This is not public data but it at least puts some exposure on the Biden Crime Family.

There is Joe Biden's brother Jim who also is part of the racket. Perhaps some of Jim Biden's LLCs get money from direct benefactors of Ukraine aid via shell companies and middle men.

I don't see the Biden Crime Family reaching the same level of success as the Clintons and the Obamas.

We'll see how well Joe Biden lives after he retires.

Lets see if Biden buys a large house that rivals the Obamas mansion on Marthas Vineyards and if he is invited to any +$150,000 speaking events, or gets a very lucrative book deal.

Between now and Joe Biden's retirement, Hunter has a lot of his art to sell.

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