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When Is Trump Going to Denounce the Death Jabs?
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2023 May 15, 7:13pm 1,238 views 19 comments
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richwicks
2023 May 15, 7:16pm
richwicks
2023 May 15, 7:16pm
He won't. He received nearly as much money from big pharma as Biden did.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 15, 8:31pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 15, 8:31pm
Why would a NY real estate mogul who stuffed his cabinet with Wall Street bankers ever want to go against his masters?
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RayAmerica
2023 May 16, 8:00am
RayAmerica
2023 May 16, 8:00am
After Trump secured the nomination in 2016, he met with RFK Jr. at Trump Tower in NY for a couple of hours. Kennedy gave him an overview of the information that he had on Big Pharma and the damage that their 'vaccines' were doing to children, etc. Trump told him that, if elected, he would create a vaccine commission and name Kennedy chairman. Not long after that, Trump began receiving major campaign contributions from the drug companies. Kennedy attempted to contact Trump several times, but Trump never returned text messages or phone calls. I can't imagine why, can you?
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 16, 8:21am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 16, 8:21am
He wont until the plurality of People say the Jabs were a scam. The best he can do for now, is play middle of the road.
"You don't want it, then you shouldn't have to take it, but millions of people love their jab, would take another if you offered it to them."
If he said it was a scam, or that he knew it was a scam all along, then the blame for all of it would be thrown on him. Remember the whole premise of the Scamdemic was to get rid of Trump. He was supposed to announce 15 day slow to spread lock down unilaterally, so after those 15 days. He was going to be solely responsible for any damages it would have caused. The experts would have all piped up and said there was no science or reason for him to do so.
He made Facci and Birx own it, go back and look at the first presser. Fauci and Birx were gobsmaked and blindsided that he pulled them up to do it. It ruined their plan, so they went to plan B. Keep everyone locked down, masked and develop and force jab everyone killing as many as it takes for the great reset.
Trump hijacked that as well and made it purely optional, he did not compel anyone to take the jab.
He can't back pedal now, or he will be blamed. As it stands now, the world knows who forced it upon everyone .Why would Trump step in that steaming pile of shit and get the stink all over his new suit?
I'm being serious here, if he denounced it he would be blamed for all of it. As it stands now, when Fauci, Birx and the CDC and WHO are held responsible.
Trump can then speak out and say how he protected people who knew it was a scam by taking control of the vax roll out and not making it mandatory.
Everyone not a butt hurt TDS idiot knew it was bullshit. Most people took the vax did so out of spite of the Trump supporters who kept saying it was bogus.
Trump fought like hell to not let America turn into totalitarianism like Australia and NZ was turning into.
"You don't want it, then you shouldn't have to take it, but millions of people love their jab, would take another if you offered it to them."
If he said it was a scam, or that he knew it was a scam all along, then the blame for all of it would be thrown on him. Remember the whole premise of the Scamdemic was to get rid of Trump. He was supposed to announce 15 day slow to spread lock down unilaterally, so after those 15 days. He was going to be solely responsible for any damages it would have caused. The experts would have all piped up and said there was no science or reason for him to do so.
He made Facci and Birx own it, go back and look at the first presser. Fauci and Birx were gobsmaked and blindsided that he pulled them up to do it. It ruined their plan, so they went to plan B. Keep everyone locked down, masked and develop and force jab everyone killing as many as it takes for the great reset.
Trump hijacked that as well and made it purely optional, he did not compel anyone to take the jab.
He can't back pedal now, or he will be blamed. As it stands now, the world knows who forced it upon everyone .Why would Trump step in that steaming pile of shit and get the stink all over his new suit?
I'm being serious here, if he denounced it he would be blamed for all of it. As it stands now, when Fauci, Birx and the CDC and WHO are held responsible.
Trump can then speak out and say how he protected people who knew it was a scam by taking control of the vax roll out and not making it mandatory.
Everyone not a butt hurt TDS idiot knew it was bullshit. Most people took the vax did so out of spite of the Trump supporters who kept saying it was bogus.
Trump fought like hell to not let America turn into totalitarianism like Australia and NZ was turning into.
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Patrick
2023 May 18, 11:43pm
Patrick
2023 May 18, 11:43pm
RayAmerica says
Maybe that's why Trump keeps pushing the toxxine.
Trump began receiving major campaign contributions from the drug companies.
Maybe that's why Trump keeps pushing the toxxine.
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HeadSet
2023 May 19, 8:13am
HeadSet
2023 May 19, 8:13am
Patrick says
Yes, along with the fact that if Trump takes any blame, the press and the Dems will then offload ALL the vax issues onto the "Trump Vaccine" and the "Trump Lockdowns" and the "Trump Mandates." Every vax/mask NAZI will be excused as "being misled by Trump."
Maybe that's why Trump keeps pushing the toxxine.
Yes, along with the fact that if Trump takes any blame, the press and the Dems will then offload ALL the vax issues onto the "Trump Vaccine" and the "Trump Lockdowns" and the "Trump Mandates." Every vax/mask NAZI will be excused as "being misled by Trump."
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The_Deplorable
2023 May 19, 8:22am
RayAmerica says
Trump needs to do that. The sooner the better.
"When Is Trump Going to Denounce the Death Jabs?"
Trump needs to do that. The sooner the better.
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WookieMan
2023 May 19, 9:20am
WookieMan
2023 May 19, 9:20am
He's not going to. You do understand that 98% or people are happy with their jab and think it was the right thing? If he comes out saying it was a bad decision that's fodder against him.
He's throwing Jr. at it. He uses his kids as pawns, though I think some of it is legit. DT Jr. does not hold back on the vax topic. Trump himself doesn't need to be vocal on it. Most people think the vaccine is good. We're a minority here. They can't flip the script on Trump because Biden followed up and locked down as much or more.
I don't know. I think Trump knows the long game. Between the economy, Russia/Ukraine, inflation, vaccines, Trump seems to be playing the right cards so far besides not getting back on Twitter.
He's throwing Jr. at it. He uses his kids as pawns, though I think some of it is legit. DT Jr. does not hold back on the vax topic. Trump himself doesn't need to be vocal on it. Most people think the vaccine is good. We're a minority here. They can't flip the script on Trump because Biden followed up and locked down as much or more.
I don't know. I think Trump knows the long game. Between the economy, Russia/Ukraine, inflation, vaccines, Trump seems to be playing the right cards so far besides not getting back on Twitter.
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RayAmerica
2023 Jun 6, 2:01pm
RayAmerica
2023 Jun 6, 2:01pm
Watch this short video. More baloney from Trump. Obviously, he's feeling a lot of pressure regarding his role in creating these dangerous 'vaccines.' Not one word about the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines,' but rather, "if I get back in the White House, I'll appoint a committee, blah, blah, blah" to "study this decade long problem."
Trump Vows to Address the 'Unexplained and Alarming Growth' in Chronic Disease and Big Pharma's Role
https://rumble.com/v2si2kw-trump-vows-to-address-the-unexplained-and-alarming-growth-in-chronic-diseas.html
Trump Vows to Address the 'Unexplained and Alarming Growth' in Chronic Disease and Big Pharma's Role
https://rumble.com/v2si2kw-trump-vows-to-address-the-unexplained-and-alarming-growth-in-chronic-diseas.html
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RC2006
2023 Jun 6, 2:12pm
RC2006
2023 Jun 6, 2:12pm
Only thing Trump should denounce is Biden and the left forcing people to take it or loosing thier jobs.
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The_Deplorable
2023 Jun 6, 2:49pm
RayAmerica says
Trump did not know that the vaccines were actually toxins. The vaccines were deployed in late December 2020 and he left office less than 3 weeks later.
• President Trump never forced anyone to get vaccinated.
• It was Joe Biden who forced people to get vaccinated.
"Watch this short video. More baloney from Trump. Obviously, he's feeling a lot of pressure regarding his role in creating these dangerous 'vaccines.'"
Trump did not know that the vaccines were actually toxins. The vaccines were deployed in late December 2020 and he left office less than 3 weeks later.
• President Trump never forced anyone to get vaccinated.
• It was Joe Biden who forced people to get vaccinated.
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RayAmerica
2023 Jun 6, 3:14pm
RayAmerica
2023 Jun 6, 3:14pm
The_Deplorable says
Do you think that maybe, just maybe, Trump knows now that they actually were toxins?
Don't get me wrong. I voted for Trump twice. But I don't like the fact that he seems to be in the pockets of Big Pharma, which is exactly as RFK Jr. has implied.
When it comes to politicians, I'm a complete agnostic. I never believe anything they say, I only want to see what they do. And in this case, Trump has been a big let down.
Trump did not know that the vaccines were actually toxins. The vaccines were deployed in late December 2020 and he left office less than 3 weeks later.
Do you think that maybe, just maybe, Trump knows now that they actually were toxins?
Don't get me wrong. I voted for Trump twice. But I don't like the fact that he seems to be in the pockets of Big Pharma, which is exactly as RFK Jr. has implied.
When it comes to politicians, I'm a complete agnostic. I never believe anything they say, I only want to see what they do. And in this case, Trump has been a big let down.
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The_Deplorable
2023 Jun 6, 4:21pm
RayAmerica says
Right now he knows. Back in 2020 he didn't know.
And he needs to denounce the toxin vaccines and the mandates. It is Gordian knot that needs to be cut.
"Do you think that maybe, just maybe, Trump knows now that they actually were toxins?"
Right now he knows. Back in 2020 he didn't know.
And he needs to denounce the toxin vaccines and the mandates. It is Gordian knot that needs to be cut.
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RayAmerica
2023 Jun 6, 4:30pm
RayAmerica
2023 Jun 6, 4:30pm
The_Deplorable says
I agree with you 100%.
I don't deny that this puts Trump in a potentially very precarious position ... politically. But, the seriousness of these toxines makes it mandatory that he finds a way to fess up and take some responsibility. Even if he blames the bulk of it on the "experts" like Fauci, the CDC, WHO, etc., and claims he was mislead, he needs to now, as you say "denounce the toxin vaccines and the mandates."
He needs to deal with this, and quick. I know of too many Trump supporters that are very bothered by how he has handled all of this. Claiming to push it off into the future by naming some "independent commission" just won't cut it.
Right now he knows. Back in 2020 he didn't know.
And he needs to denounce the toxin vaccines and the mandates. It is Gordian knot that needs to be cut.
I agree with you 100%.
I don't deny that this puts Trump in a potentially very precarious position ... politically. But, the seriousness of these toxines makes it mandatory that he finds a way to fess up and take some responsibility. Even if he blames the bulk of it on the "experts" like Fauci, the CDC, WHO, etc., and claims he was mislead, he needs to now, as you say "denounce the toxin vaccines and the mandates."
He needs to deal with this, and quick. I know of too many Trump supporters that are very bothered by how he has handled all of this. Claiming to push it off into the future by naming some "independent commission" just won't cut it.
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Patrick
2023 Jun 7, 11:20am
Patrick
2023 Jun 7, 11:20am
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/the-fake-news-test-wednesday-june?publication_id=463409&post_id=126639209&isFreemail=true
💉 The Trump campaign published an official statement yesterday, in which Trump vowed to investigate Big Pharma, and get to the bottom of why our kids are suffering from stunning rises in autism, autoimmune, and other chronic health problems. Trump said if elected, he would convene a committee of independent minds, minds not owned by Big Pharma, to figure out exactly what was going on so we can put a stop to it.
Trump said to believe him, he knows Big Pharma better than anybody. Among other things, he said:
> “In recent decades, there has been an unexplained and alarming growth in the prevalence of chronic illnesses and health problems especially in children. We’ve seen a stunning rise in autism, autoimmune disorders, obesity, infertility, serious allergies, and respiratory challenges. It’s time to ask what is going on.”
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1666372537284976640?ref_src=patrick.net
The too-facile take on his statement is that it’s ‘just’ a political move; it’s Trump aiming to bury his Operation Warp Speed image problem, and trying to outflank DeSantis on medical freedom. All of that is almost certainly true. But it’s not the entire story, or even the most interesting part of the story.
The first thing that fascinates me is that we now have major candidates for both parties — Trump and RFK — who are both airing the same message: vaccines are potentially dangerous for children. Captured media will do everything it can to mute that message. It won’t be easy, whereas RFK is easily ignored, the media seems to have picked Trump to be its favored candidate until after the primaries. And if Trump wins the primaries, Biden will have to run against Trump.
Captured media CAN’T ignore Trump.
The second implication of Trump’s statement is so vast it’s hard to process. An Overton Garage Door has obviously been rolled open. It used to be political suicide to talk about autism and vaccines, but apparently vaccines are now a major campaign issue in the 2024 elections. What happened to reverse the ban on anti-vaccine talk?
Hint: The pandemic and the jabs happened.
This development must seem nearly miraculous for all the parents of vaccine-injured children who have been sidelined, gaslit, dismissed, marginalized, and labeled dangerous misinformation spreaders.
To be fair, Trump has some problems with this strategy. RFK has repeatedly said that 2016’s candidate Trump asked him to lead a similar panel, but then cancelled it. Unconfirmed reports cynically suggest that Trump was swayed by a large donation from Big Pharma. Who knows. It doesn’t matter whether Trump would actually follow through or whether anything would change as a result of Trump’s policies.
What’s significant is that a majority of Republicans, including both Trump and DeSantis supporters, plus over 20% of democrats who support RFK, are sick and tired of Big Pharma and its suitcase of shots for babies. What happens when the majority of Americans believe the conspiracy theory? Is it still a conspiracy theory, or has it become something else?
Think about it like this: it’s not significant that Trump said it. It’s significant that Trump — a masterful politician — detected that it was the right thing to say right now. He didn’t invent the issue. Trump just figured out this is the right time to make the argument.
Justice will come. It IS getting there. Justice is a universal force that cannot be stopped; it is unstoppable.
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RayAmerica
2023 Jun 7, 11:39am
RayAmerica
2023 Jun 7, 11:39am
Patrick says
Who is it that will actually lead the fight for justice?
It's true that, so far, Trump & RFK Jr. are the only candidates that have addressed the whole vaccine issue. On Trump's part, it reeks of Johnny Come Lately, while RKF Jr. has a very long, well established record of waging a productive fight against the dangerous vaccines that Big Pharma has pushed upon the American people, particularly children. In fact, he has dedicated much of his life to this cause. In contrast, what has Trump done, other than continue to take credit for 'saving 100 million lives' because of his efforts via 'Warp Speed?' I found his recent statement very weak and vacillating.
The bottom line; although I voted for Trump twice, I just don't trust him on this issue. The case can certainly be made that if Big Parma is eventually found guilty of producing, and, marketing their knowingly dangerous COVID 'vaccines,' Trump is culpable as well for the part that he played. It's for that reason that Trump will never admit that these are in fact killer 'vaccines.'
Justice will come. It IS getting there.
Who is it that will actually lead the fight for justice?
It's true that, so far, Trump & RFK Jr. are the only candidates that have addressed the whole vaccine issue. On Trump's part, it reeks of Johnny Come Lately, while RKF Jr. has a very long, well established record of waging a productive fight against the dangerous vaccines that Big Pharma has pushed upon the American people, particularly children. In fact, he has dedicated much of his life to this cause. In contrast, what has Trump done, other than continue to take credit for 'saving 100 million lives' because of his efforts via 'Warp Speed?' I found his recent statement very weak and vacillating.
The bottom line; although I voted for Trump twice, I just don't trust him on this issue. The case can certainly be made that if Big Parma is eventually found guilty of producing, and, marketing their knowingly dangerous COVID 'vaccines,' Trump is culpable as well for the part that he played. It's for that reason that Trump will never admit that these are in fact killer 'vaccines.'
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Patrick
2023 Sep 29, 9:22pm
Patrick
2023 Sep 29, 9:22pm
https://palexander.substack.com/p/potus-trump-aka-45-i-consider-the
Even huge Trump fans are saying that Trump must finally admit that the toxxine kills.
POTUS Trump, aka '45', I consider the best POTUS US had bar George and Abe, and bar the fraud pandemic by the deepstate cabal used to topple him, MUST soon stand up against the lockdowns & VACCINE!
he must, for it came under him and were devastating; I never blamed him but he has to deal with the disaster it was and not praise any of it anymore! he was lied to, subverted from WITHIN the house
Even huge Trump fans are saying that Trump must finally admit that the toxxine kills.
by JD RUCKER America First Report https://jdrucker.substack.com/p/when-is-trump-going-to-denounce-the MAY 15, 2023 (full article below)
"They lied to me about Covid and the jabs from the beginning," Donald Trump says in the imaginary scenario I've concocted in my head. "Today, I officially denounce the Covid-19 vaccines and I apologize for touting them the last two-and-a-half years."
That's what I want him to say. I wish he would have said something to that effect already. The evidence is crystal clear. The powers-that-be and their minions that were placed in his administration have been lying from the start, manipulating him through his inherent desire for action against a perceived problem. Now, he has the tough choice of either going back on his claims that he saved tens or even hundreds of millions of lives or sticking to his guns with the narrative that the vaccines were good but mandates were bad.
Unfortunately, he's not alone with his Covid vaccine baggage. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, his biggest threat on the Republican side, has his own history of promoting the vaccines and lockdowns. He has tried to slowly reverse his perspectives but his history will weigh on him unless he, too, comes out with a full-throated condemnation of the jabs. He's in better position than President Trump on the issue, but not by much.
The only major candidate to unambiguously condemn the jabs has been Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He's been saying a lot of good things lately, but he comes with a completely different set of baggage. As a Democrat, he embraces policies that make supporting him untenable for most America First patriots. On the other side of the fence, some of his more Libertarian views make him a non-starter for radical progressives.
He's the oddest of candidates with extreme views that make him hard for the murky middle to swallow. Outside of those who see the jabs as the only voting consideration, I'm not sure how he could build a strong enough base to defeat a sitting president, even one as unpopular as Joe Biden.
If Biden were to fall before the primaries for whatever reason, the DNC would bring in someone more controllable like California Governor Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama. They won't embrace someone so triggering as RFK Jr any more than they would embrace someone like Bernie Sanders.
That brings us back to President Trump. I desperately want him to denounce the jabs because it would make supporting him easier. I'm seeking simplicity at this point, not perfection. It's easier for me than most people to not be so invested in presidential campaign politics because I'm a firm believer that only God can correct the disastrous course our nation is on, and only We the People can solve our problems, not politicians. With that said, I'm rooting for Trump to become the strongest possible opposition to globalism, transhumanism, and the Deep State.
Until he denounces the jabs, he cannot properly oppose globalism. He cannot oppose transhumanism. He can't even properly oppose the Deep State. All three have been reliant on the promotion of the jabs and the dissemination of Pandemic Panic Theater to achieve their goals. On top of that, the likelihood of another "Plandemic" rises every day so we need someone in the White House who is at least skeptical if not adamantly opposed to everything the medical powers-that-be put forth.
Is anyone still reading or did I run off everyone already?
Trump supporters will say he's taking a mulligan on his support of the jabs and that everything else is fine. DeSantis supporters will say he has at least been skeptical of the efficacy and safety of the jabs and therefore he's closer to the truth. RFK Jr supporters will say the jabs are the biggest issue and we should ignore his leftist policies.
Everyone's right and everyone's wrong. And therein lies my dilemma. It all becomes a lot simpler if Trump comes to his senses, fires his advisors, and admits the jabs are killing more people than they're helping.