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COVID: Huge Exchange by Rogan & Musk challenging Hotez to debate RFK Jr.


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2023 Jun 17, 9:18pm   1,740 views  37 comments

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1   Ceffer   2023 Jun 17, 10:29pm  

Doctors, medical schools, and medical journals have done a perfect job of disgracing themselves across the board. The medical journals are trying to bury their shit by retracting their bought and paid for Covid propaganda articles.
2   AmericanKulak   2023 Jun 17, 11:28pm  

The pot rises to $860k

3   WookieMan   2023 Jun 18, 5:01am  

Ceffer says

Doctors, medical schools, and medical journals have done a perfect job of disgracing themselves across the board. The medical journals are trying to bury their shit by retracting their bought and paid for Covid propaganda articles.

Doctors generally don't make the vaccines themselves anyway. They treat. Given a list of drugs and prescribe it. 95% of doctors have no clue what the vaccine does. As with most industries they're there to cash a paycheck. You think they have time during work to research and anyone think they're doing it in their free time? Hells no.

A doctor should never debate anyone that's done different research and analysis. I don't know if this is a practicing doctor, never heard of him. But he'd be stupid to debate the topic so he's not wrong there. He's wrong on the vaccine though. It's lying by omission. He has no clue what the vaccine did or does and therefore won't debate.
4   Robert Sproul   2023 Jun 18, 6:55am  

Of various 'blocks' on Twitter, I am most proud of Hotez blocking me.
This Mad-Jabber has a vaccine injured daughter and yet cheerily promotes all 76(!) doses of vaccines on the childhood schedule as some form of 'HEALTH'.
Fucker looks like he lives under a toadstool.
5   HeadSet   2023 Jun 18, 7:59am  

Robert Sproul says

Fucker looks like he lives under a toadstool.

Maybe he was handsome before taking all those potions,
6   Karloff   2023 Jun 18, 8:24am  

That slimy little coward knows he and his needle-pushing cult would be humiliated in the debate.

This article perfectly describes it.
7   Karloff   2023 Jun 18, 8:33am  

Robert Sproul says

Fucker looks like he lives under a toadstool.

The first thought that came to my mind when I saw him was some sort of Igor-like assistant to a mad scientist.


8   AmericanKulak   2023 Jun 19, 4:41pm  

Karloff says

needle-pushing cult

NPC: needle pushing cult(-ist)?
9   richwicks   2023 Jun 19, 9:42pm  

WookieMan says


A doctor should never debate anyone that's done different research and analysis. I don't know if this is a practicing doctor, never heard of him. But he'd be stupid to debate the topic so he's not wrong there. He's wrong on the vaccine though. It's lying by omission. He has no clue what the vaccine did or does and therefore won't debate.


Peter Hotez, I think the doctor you're talking about, is the man replacing Fauci. This Peter Hotez:


original link

He's just another fucking shill for the pharmaceutical companies and a partisan whore. He was against the vaccines when Trump was president, and he's for them that he's being paid to be for them now and Joe Biden is president.

The reason he won't debate is, like Fauci, his opinions are purchased.

Don't be intimidated by a PhD - some of the STUPIDEST people I know were PhDs. They were very smart and educated about what they were TAUGHT in their field, but they rarely have general intelligence.

I don't think there should be any "debates" anyhow, they are worthless - the purpose of a debate is to "win" the argument - it's not to find out who is right or exchange information. I hate debates. The purpose of discussion is to gain more information. If two people talk, and neither is a stupid asshole, they can learn from one another - they can learn they were wrong about something, or they were right about something. In a debate, it's "winner takes all".

There's lots of shit I'm wrong about, and there's lots of shit I'm right about. The purpose of a discussion is to find out where I'm wrong, and to share information when I'm right. It's mutually beneficial. There's no shame in being wrong. We all start out in complete ignorance, the big shame is if we go out in the same way.
11   Onvacation   2023 Jun 20, 10:27am  

richwicks says

Peter Hotez

Never trust a man that wears a bow tie.
12   WookieMan   2023 Jun 20, 11:56am  

richwicks says

Don't be intimidated by a PhD - some of the STUPIDEST people I know were PhDs. They were very smart and educated about what they were TAUGHT in their field, but they rarely have general intelligence.

Yup, 100%. Most higher education is suck up bull shit. My sister was the queen of it. She's an attorney. I got my real estate license as a history major mostly dicking around the whole time. Took my sister two times to pass it... as an attorney. It's all a racket.

I remember little to nothing from college. I didn't have to. I feel like doctors do the same. It's a license to get into a club and then everything is provided for you now. Outside of surgeons and ER docs, I think retention goes out the window once they start working after school. They also don't think anymore. Covid is a perfect example. I got into arguments with medical people about it. They think they know better but as an outsider I saw the bull shit after 15 days to stop the spread. Researched it. We're either all dead or this is a cold. There's nothing we can do about it.
13   Patrick   2023 Jun 20, 8:57pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/festival-joys-tuesday-june-20-2023?publication_id=463409&post_id=129706419&isFreemail=true


💉 Bowtied wonder Peter Hotez is back in the public eye after criticizing Joe Rogan’s interview of RFK as spreading “vaccine misinformation.” Rogan responded by challenging Hotez to a debate, which led to a crowdsourced fund drive creating a $1.5M kitty to the charity of Hotez’s choice if he agrees to debate RFK on Rogan’s show.

Obviously Hotez won’t get anywhere near that debate. There’s a good reason why, too.

First of all, he’d have to explain why Forbes describes him as one of the richest scientists in America, with a $35M net worth largely derived from payments by health organizations and pharma companies.



Next, in the early pandemic, Hotez testified to Congress AGAINST coronavirus vaccines, saying that no coronavirus vaccine had ever succeeded, and that EUA approval standards were far too low to guarantee a safe vaccine for the general public. Hotez changed his tune right after Fauci appointed him to head up the NIH’s official Covid Vaccine Committee.

Here’s a twelve-minute mini-documentary on Hotez, exposing his shifting positions and other awkward connections...

In other words, he has way too much baggage and there is NO WAY Hotez is going to get on a debate stage with anyone with half a brain. It’s never going to happen. They might as well offer a billion dollars to the charity of his choice.

Peter Hotez is an unkempt gasbag decorated with a ridiculous bowtie, without which he would look remarkably like a serial killer.
14   Patrick   2023 Jun 21, 9:45am  

https://babylonbee.com/news/joe-rogan-savagely-bullies-scientist-by-inviting-him-on-podcast-to-explain-his-position


U.S. — In a brazen and shameful example of brutal cyberbullying, podcast host Joe Rogan has invited pro-vaccine health expert Doctor Peter Hotez to come on his show and explain his position to millions of listeners.

"We've seen inexcusable behavior from Rogan before, but this, frankly, is beyond the pale," said MSNBC Health Correspondent Samir Monkiypax. "The honorable Dr. Hotez is too pure to debase himself before a podcast audience by sharing his expertise regarding vaccine safety. Now he must deal with the unspeakable trauma of being invited on Joe Rogan's show. How could you, Joe Rogan?!"

Sources say Dr. Hotez has been forced into hiding due to the constant, terrifying harassment of Joe Rogan inviting him on his show. "My life is ruined," said Hotez to reporters from a secure location. "When you bully me, you're bullying science. How heartless do you have to be to bully science?"
15   Patrick   2023 Jun 21, 11:46am  

https://notthebee.com/article/the-vaccine-expert-who-refuses-to-debate-rfk-on-rogans-podcast-already-appeared-on-rogan-once-and-it-did-not-go-well-for-him


Well, I've figured out why Hotez is hesitant to debate on Joe Rogan. And it's because Rogan had him on once before and absolutely embarrassed the doctor.
16   Ceffer   2023 Jun 21, 11:52am  

You know where Hotez is coming from when he shows up to a debate wearing a Gimp outfit.
17   WookieMan   2023 Jun 21, 1:10pm  

Patrick says

https://notthebee.com/article/the-vaccine-expert-who-refuses-to-debate-rfk-on-rogans-podcast-already-appeared-on-rogan-once-and-it-did-not-go-well-for-him



Well, I've figured out why Hotez is hesitant to debate on Joe Rogan. And it's because Rogan had him on once before and absolutely embarrassed the doctor.


He was flat out lying to Joe. I don't know how we got here where Joe Rogan is one of the best interviewers on the planet. He stumbles from time to time, but owns it, Joe that is. He wasn't even trying to make the guy look like a fool, Hotez did it himself with 4th grade questions.
19   Patrick   2023 Jun 21, 4:32pm  

https://lesliemanookian.substack.com/p/my-time-with-peter-hotez


In the glorious aftermath of Robert Kennedy Jr. red-pilling Joe Rogan about vaccines; other toxic but government approved products like glyphosate, atrazine, and PFOAs; and the malfeasance of government agencies, vaccine developer Dr. Peter Hotez seriously miscalculated or suffered an unfortunate lapse of judgement when he accused Kennedy of spreading misinformation. He thus unleashed a storm of criticism he surely never expected. Rogan publicly offered Hotez $100,000 donated to the charity of his choice if he would come on the show to debate Kennedy. Other onlookers chipped in and the donation promise mounted. Last I looked, the offer stood at $2.6 million but Hotez is not taking it!

Never before has the refusal of vaccine apologists to debate vaccine critics spoken louder of their ties to big pharma, big media, big government, and big academia.

Observing the last few years, millions have not just awoken to the reality of conflicts of interest and captured media, industry, and government, but also to true authoritarian censorship. Unfortunately, while millions may be forgiven for believing this is a recent development, the reality is far different.

I’ve been smeared by media outlets like the New York Times and CBS. Congressman Adam Schiff wrote to big tech and had my movie The Greater Good and the movies and books of many others removed from big tech platforms. Those of us working on vaccine safety awareness and health freedom issues know this is nothing new and has, instead, been standard practice for decades.

And Peter Hotez has acted as a loyal foot soldier to the big pharma lobby in their condemnable battle against honest citizens who’ve witnessed vaccine injury close up. His dishonesty is now on full display for all to see – but again, it’s not new.
20   Onvacation   2023 Jun 21, 4:40pm  

Patrick says

Dr. Hotez has been forced into hiding due to the constant, terrifying harassment

21   Patrick   2023 Jun 21, 5:22pm  

Who is that woman? She's great, and pretty hot too.
22   Onvacation   2023 Jun 21, 5:52pm  

Patrick says

Who is that woman? She's great, and pretty hot too.

Some random momma bear I found on the internet.

I never link. It gives credibility to my postings.
23   Onvacation   2023 Jun 21, 5:56pm  

Eva Longoria! She's the actress that Biden tried to grope last week!
24   richwicks   2023 Jun 21, 10:20pm  

Onvacation says

Eva Longoria! She's the actress that Biden tried to grope last week!


What do you mean tried? I think that qualified as a grope.
25   Ceffer   2023 Jun 21, 10:21pm  

Fauci lied better. However, Fauci had a lot more practice over the decades. Hotez acts and looks like a blackmailed pedo squirrel caught in a cage.

https://www.brighteon.com/650f0df3-8fc1-4fdb-b06b-965777b22cec

27   stereotomy   2023 Jun 22, 3:54am  

Patrick says

https://notthebee.com/article/the-vaccine-expert-who-refuses-to-debate-rfk-on-rogans-podcast-already-appeared-on-rogan-once-and-it-did-not-go-well-for-him

Well, I've figured out why Hotez is hesitant to debate on Joe Rogan. And it's because Rogan had him on once before and absolutely embarrassed the doctor.

In the video for the NTB article, at one point Hotez mentions his autistic daughter. Karma?
30   Patrick   2023 Oct 30, 11:14am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/blundered-monday-october-30-2023


💉 Over the weekend, I covered a related story, featuring another annoying, liberal, pro-mandate millionaire: the unkempt, nutty professor Peter Hotez. Hotez recently won the Anthony Fauci Award for Courage, and no, that is not a joke. On Saturday, Hotez lit a fuse on social media by tweeting about how so many of his colleagues were dying suddenly and mysteriously lately, arrogantly wondering if the deaths were caused by “overwork,” or “exhaustion.” You know, from working so tirelessly and selflessly for the ungrateful masses during the pandemic.

Because work! Work can kill you. Suddenly and unexpectedly:




Well, even though he smartly limited comments to his twitter friends, somebody must have alerted Peter to all the attention his ill-considered tweet was getting, because Hotez deleted the tweet sometime yesterday. It’s off of twitter now. But don’t worry! I’ll keep running it.

Legally, evidence of an intent to conceal something is admissible as evidence of consciousness of guilt.

But set that fruitful vein aside for the moment. Combine Hotez’s earnest but 100% tone-deaf tweet fiasco with Professor Galloway’s request for “grace and forgiveness.” What they have in common is a race toward the bottom. Galloway is right, the pandemic was a total s-show, and it was Galloway and Hotez’s fault. It’s becoming undeniable.
32   Patrick   2024 Oct 26, 10:00am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/belief-models-saturday-october-26


Last night, right after the record-breaking interview dropped, the New York Times ran a lightning damage-control article headlined, “6 Takeaways From Donald Trump’s 3-Hour Podcast With Joe Rogan.” The face-off between the former Fear Factor and Apprentice hosts forged political history yesterday and dealt the selected candidate a crippling blow from which she may never recover.

I could not find a previous historical example of a President (or candidate) taking such a long, open-ended interview with a major media platform. I don’t believe it has ever happened.

Joe Rogan commands the world’s largest media venue, period, full stop. Nothing else even comes close, except possibly a handful of one-off events like the Superbowl. The Times reported Rogan has 14.5 million subscribers on Spotify and 17.6 million on YouTube. Rogan’s shows consistently top the charts on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Rogan signed a renewal contract with Spotify earlier this year, estimated by trade press to be worth nearly $250 million, making him the highest paid journalist in history.

Though corporate media does its best to ignore Joe Rogan, the former MMA fighter remains the lone champion of a dominant media class of his own.

The race to score the Rogan interview began twelve days ago. It was Harris’ idea. Reuters ran the story headlined, “Harris could join Joe Rogan podcast in hunt for male votes, sources say.” The Harris campaign is desperate for male voters. A YouGov poll last year found most (81%) of Rogan listeners are male, and just over half (56%) are under 35, so she badly needed the exposure.

Trump has never enjoyed a smooth relationship with Joe Rogan. Two years ago, Rogan refused to let Trump come on the show, and called Trump a “threat to democracy.” Yesterday on the show, Rogan told Trump the assassination attempt changed his mind: “Once they shot you, I was like, ‘He’s got to come in here,’” Rogan explained. “It’s all about timing.”

On Monday, the news broke of Kamala’s talks with Rogan, and it looks like the Trump campaign sprang into action and scooped the interview. Trump had at least one advantage: he could handle three hours of unscripted interview without negotiating a bunch of rules, and Kamala probably could not. So it looks like there is a behind-the-scenes story of how Trump snaked the Rogan interview out from under Kamala’s nose.

Even before the interview began, Trump had already won, by denying Kamala access to Rogan’s show. Rogan says he’d still have her on. But there’s no way she’ll take that interview now, fearing inevitable and predictably brutal comparisons between her’s and Trump’s performance. And that is the point: Trump doesn’t need independents to listen to the interview.

He just needs them to know Trump took the three-hour unscripted interview, and Kamala didn’t or couldn’t. And that may be a sufficiently compelling reason to vote for President Trump, since it really does evidence a basic presidential capability.

In the first nine hours since the podcast went live on YouTube, it has already been viewed 8.3 million times. And there are already 196,000 comments. These figures don’t even count additional listeners on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

As for the content, little will be new to existing Trump supporters. The former President confirmed his plan to end the income tax, albeit without elaborating, which is probably smart. And Trump confessed to Rogan that his biggest mistake during his first term was picking “bad, disloyal people,” showing he’s learned a lot from his first try.

But it was surprising to see how much of the world is with us. The YouTube comments section —which developed overnight— was incredibly encouraging. Foreign Trump fans from all over Planet Earth chimed in, wishing America blessings for the election. Here are just three examples in a row of very many:




The list of supportive countries continued beyond your author’s ability to scroll. While trying to imagine a scenario where any Kamala interview would draw this kind of worldwide response, ask next whether anything the Cackler has done could create this sort of wild energy...
33   WookieMan   2024 Oct 26, 10:17am  

I thought the Rogan interview was relatively bland. But that's how Rogan rolls. It's generally just two guys talking and goofing off. Didn't hurt and likely helped a touch. Nothing big. He was going to win anyway assuming he stays alive.

I figured it would have been 1-1/2 hour but when I saw 3, I was like shit, didn't see that coming. And I think that was his point of doing it. He can sit there and talk for 3 hours. Give coherent answers at a 5th grade level, which is done on purpose. Kamala talks like a 3rd grade girl and knows nothing.

I think he'll be a solid amount above 300 electoral votes. I don't see a path to Kamala winning.
34   Patrick   2024 Oct 26, 6:21pm  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/the-impact-of-the-trumprogan-interview


Trump accomplished a lot with the Rogan interview:

-He admitted to some of his mistakes and clarified why he had lunatics like John Bolton on his staff.

-He squashed the ongoing Left-wing narratives that he is Hitler, and that he is “exhausted”.

-He reached potential new voters and new demographics that he might not normally be exposed to.

-He dwarfed Kamala’s rally in Houston and is completely dominating the airwaves 10 days out from the election.

-He proved he could do a 3 hour interview off-script, and Kamala chickened out and can’t handle a 15 minute scripted interview.

-He mended some bridges with the Libertarian and independent communities, and came off as sincere.

All in all, this move from Trump is already proving to be a massive success, and the numbers are insane. He might have gotten a little lost in the weave a few times, but he addressed many concerns Rogan’s audience might have had about him, and I think he is winning over a lot of hearts who have been hesitant to support Trump.

The Trump Train is picking up steam as we head into the final stretch.
35   Patrick   2024 Oct 26, 6:37pm  

https://palexander.substack.com/p/trumps-discussion-with-rogan-was


for sure Trump is the only option based on what we face, but I tell you, after this interview, I am now more convinced Trump will not address what took place to USA (the harms and deaths of the fraud lockdowns and closures) under the failed disastrous deadly OWS and the Malone et al. mRNA vaccine…the denial of OWS etc. at the RNC, the refusal for Trump to stand up to the truth of the deadly OWS and the deadly mRNA gene based vaccine, and the clear silencing of Bobby Kennedy Jr. (usually a top vanguard against the deadly OWS etc.) on OWS and the Malone et al. gene vaccine, tells us that only WE the people, us, will have to get our accountability and punishment for the deaths and harms we face. At the ballot box, in the courts. For as long as it takes.

I think we have been snowed by all involved on COVID, all, and they took 4 years of our lives, and they think that’s it, we will accept that. WE have no power to fix it, we the people. And they can make mRNA our daily lives going forward. That is their plan.

I am glad Kennedy Jr. is on tap, hopefully he can give us something and get us some resolution and some accountability on what made him, what gave him notoriety, this being the failed OWS and Malone et al. mRNA deadly vaccine! Given his legal acumen. I trust Kennedy Jr. I very much like Rogan and hopefully he can return to his punishing form on accountability. I do not think he operated true to form in this interview and I do not understand why. This interview failed IMO.


Good point. If they did not talk about the millions of deaths from the toxxine, it was a failed interview.

The top issue for everyone should be how to hang those who mandated that poison.
36   WookieMan   2024 Oct 26, 6:56pm  

Patrick says


Good point. If they did not talk about the millions of deaths from the toxxine, it was a failed interview.

The top issue for everyone should be how to hang those who mandated that poison.

I disagree. It was obvious that covid was BS from the word go. People need to educate themselves at some point and not totally rely on government. If a virus kills all the hosts, it's done by default. It was already spreading before in September/October of 2019. Officials were months late. There was nothing they could do.

Guess what in those 3-4 months, you didn't die. Maybe a friend had a bad flu, usually an unhealthy friend or family member. I didn't know I had it 2 times without testing. It didn't move me at all. The Mexico trip it was a shitty flight and felt cold, bought a Mexican blanket at the airport. Not a single concern though for my life.

I've moved on from covid. It just solidified that I won't ever trust government for medial decisions. If I have to go to the ER so be it. But I'm not voluntarily going to the doctor to just have drugs thrown at me that they're getting paid for. My wife is in the sales game, but her job doesn't injure humans at all with roads. The medical field is trash. I'd rather die a fast death instead of a slow miserable one on pills.

No one will ever be held accountable. So I've generally moved on from this topic. And just won't listen to government for anything for the most part that doesn't make me a criminal.
37   HeadSet   2024 Oct 26, 7:45pm  

Patrick says

Good point. If they did not talk about the millions of deaths from the toxxine, it was a failed interview.

Cart before the horse. The public is not aware of the Covid hoax, so banging that drum now will turn off voters. Once elected, Trump can sic RFK Jr on Pfizer, et al, and get subpoenas and testimony to expose and charge the crooks.

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