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Trollhole says

Believe it or not, but France is doing ok because of extensive pro-natalist policies they have had for a few decades. Same for Sweden and New Zealand.

This is surprisingly true. Rural Catholics in France approach 3 kids/woman.

pudil says

The whole argument about who caused what is moot. Either start having babies or else everyone in your country will be dead in 80 years and the Muslims will just walk in.

Elect whoever you want. If USA citizens don’t start having 3+ kids per married couple this will be us in 20 years.

Follow Japan policy. Visitors get just temp visa including children.

Trollhole says

US is actually doing better. Boomers had the Millennials while most of Europe, Australia and definitely Japan and China did not.

Believe it or not, but France is doing ok because of extensive pro-natalist policies they have had for a few decades. Same for Sweden and New Zealand.

None are at 2.whatever birth rates tho. Some US red states are.

France is at 1.8 kids per woman. And that’s including the the 4+ kids a Muslim woman living there will have. I’d like to see a breakout of the number for a native French woman.

It’s not doing great and the USA is only 20 years behind. The millennials are middle aged now and they aren’t going to save us.

The West needs to decide if it wants to continue to exist. My fear is that we have already made the decision.

USA finally got roe overturned and RED states rushed to enshrine abortion in their constitution. USA is below replacement and I don’t see anyone even talking about making the policy changes it would require to turn that around.

To turn birth rates around here you’d need to:
1. Ban or severely limit abortion. Think like a federal fetal heartbeat bill minimum.
2. End no fault divorce so men have a reason to get married.
3. Cultural celebration of heterosexual marriage and ending the celebration of sodomy. Something like 20% of gen z girl’s identity as queer. Not a lot of babies coming from that cohort.
4. Support for people with kids. If we’re going to insist that everyone work to max out our GDP, then we need to allocate some of that increase to pay for the insane costs of having and raising children. Publicly funded daycare, healthcare coverage the cost of having a baby, tax breaks for families to encourage more children, etc

I see none of these policies happening, so I don’t see us pulling out of this nosedive. The demographics over the next 80 years are going to be interesting. I predict a standoff between a Hispanic catholic Americas vs Muslim Europe / Asia. Africa could go either way, depends on how good of a job the Muslims there do at killing Christians, seems like they are off to a good start.

Nice overview. Perhaps to be a bit more succinct, let's not forget China; albeit you did mention Asia. A standoff between your mentioned followers could be moderated by them. Then again, they may empower Papal following Latinos or the other group.

You want to fix the United States?

Ban television.

That would do it.

Things are happening fast!
https://nypost.com/2023/07/08/dutch-government-collapses-over-immigration-policy/
Dutch government collapses over immigration policy

pudil says

France is at 1.8 kids per woman. And that’s including the the 4+ kids a Muslim woman living there will have. I’d like to see a breakout of the number for a native French woman.

It’s not doing great and the USA is only 20 years behind. The millennials are middle aged now and they aren’t going to save us.

Yes, the Millennials will. As they age more they will provide money to fuel investment just like the Boomers have done for 15 years (but are no longer).

It is way better than the rest of Europe and Asia, which are undergoing or soon will undergo catastrophic demographic collapse.

Patrick says

Well, everybody hates white people is wrong. This emotion is being stoked by the uniparty to create division, imo

Rubicon says

Having lived in Europe the US is a fucking dream. The streets, bars, gyms are filled with Muslims in Europe (arabs, Turks whatever).

What part of Europe did you live in? When?

Last time I was in Paris, before Notre Dame burned, I didn't notice too many Turks. Though when we visited the philharmonic and music museum in Parc de la Villette the Muslims did seem to be the majority.

Rubicon says

Under Angela Merkel, Germany welcomed over 1.2M refugees / asylum seekers at the height of the Syria crisis.

Europe is infested by Muslim immigrants like a stage 4 cancer. There is no cure. Just a process of decay.

This is suicidal. Why would Merkel do this? Would any person welcome a poisonous snake into their home?

Rubicon says

If you are disconnected with reality I could see you doing something like this. Merkel’s fine and her family will be fine nomatter how many million refugees she let in. In private schools they don’t accept refugees and you generally won’t find trash Muslims there. Same with housing secured by private security and walls. It’s kinda like Pelosi saying we need to shut down barbers and hair dressers. Of course that didn’t apply to her when she needed her hair done. Same with newscum who shut down restaurants that re-opened just for him when he wanted to celebrate something with his buddies.

Unless bad impacts the rich and powerful, there won't be any change.

gabbar says

Rubicon says

Under Angela Merkel, Germany welcomed over 1.2M refugees / asylum seekers at the height of the Syria crisis.

Europe is infested by Muslim immigrants like a stage 4 cancer. There is no cure. Just a process of decay.

This is suicidal. Why would Merkel do this? Would any person welcome a poisonous snake into their home?

Watch Bezmenov's lectures on how KGB is working to undermine the West.

Merkel has been on Stasi/KGB/FSB hook since her days in the Young Communists League and all her actions fall into what Bezmenov has revealed.

Rubicon says

Under Angela Merkel, Germany welcomed over 1.2M refugees / asylum seekers at the height of the Syria crisis.

This is why it's important to know what is going on in geopolitics.

There was no Syrian crisis. The US needed an excuse to attack it because Genie Energy made an agreement with Israel to mine oil resources in the Golan Heights as early as 2011. Obama then started making noise that if "Assad uses chemical weapons" the US would go to war. The Ghouta chemical attack happened in August 2013, and the war was on. The Ghota chemical attack probably happened and was staged by "moderate rebels" - i.e. terrorists on the CIA's payroll.

The Douma chemical attack did NOT happen.

Basically, the US fucked up the country, and Europe is run by a bunch of CIA bitches, they brought in the refugees to destabilize their countries.

The US is behind EVERY SINGLE WAR in the Middle East of the last 20 years. They even put the Taleban in power.

gabbar says

Unless bad impacts the rich and powerful, there won't be any change.

white liberals thrive behind the gates of their gated communities

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RWSGFY says

Watch Bezmenov's lectures on how KGB is working to undermine the West.

Merkel has been on Stasi/KGB/FSB hook since her days in the Young Communists League and all her actions fall into what Bezmenov has revealed.

What have the Ruskie's invaded our school system, overthrown our election for Biden, promoted LGBTQIA+ nonsense everywhere? Is the DOJ run by Russian agents that refuse to prosecute serious financial crimes, did they fund Sam Bankman Fried, are they funding Vanguard and Blackrock?

OR are our companies and intelligence agencies doing this? The West is committing suicide, it's not being killed.

We have domestic enemies, not external ones.

40 years ago, Joe Biden would have been impeached, Hillary Clinton would be removed, our media would actually inform us at least SOMEWHAT. We have a completely corrupt and criminal government.

So according to the Frenchman I'm talking to somewhere in France, but not Paris, the rioting and violence is over-blown and quite localized.

And I think that's about true, since I remember the unrest they had in the, was it 80, with French Algeria.

PeopleUnited says

"Europe is already gone. They could not defend themselves if they had to."

No, because Europe has borders. The USA does not.

"The globalists have targeted America for destruction. They cannot implement the new world order with a population that has the knowledge and capabilities of resistance."

What knowledge? The Globalists stole the 2020 Presidential election. So, where is this knowledge?

The_Deplorable says

No, because Europe has borders. The USA does not.

Europe doesn't have borders. I'm not European, but I think that basically ended with the EU. Travel between nations I don't think even needs a passport now.

richwicks says

Europe doesn't have borders. I'm not European, but I think that basically ended with the EU. Travel between nations I don't think even needs a passport now.

They use Euro passes (for travel across borders) but the Brits can't do that anymore due to Brexiting the EU.

just_passing_through says

richwicks says

Europe doesn't have borders. I'm not European, but I think that basically ended with the EU. Travel between nations I don't think even needs a passport now.

They use Euro passes (for travel across borders) but the Brits can't do that anymore due to Brexiting the EU.

When driving on highway you won't notice when you are already in different country.

REpro says

When driving on highway you won't notice when you are already in different country.

I've heard it's pretty obvious crossing from France to Germany. You go from cars up on blocks to nicely manicured areas.

The Europass thing I've only experienced while traveling by air though...

just_passing_through says

I've heard it's pretty obvious crossing from France to Germany. You go from cars up on blocks to nicely manicured areas.

The Europass thing I've only experienced while traveling by air though...

40-50 years ago, when I traveled through Europe every country had character; different food, clothes, buildings, landscaping, cleanness, friendness.
Now, all pretty much same, boring, except of old, tourist attracting, architecture.
Same names on stores, same looking highways, same fast-food chains, people dress alike, same gas stations, newer buildings look same, same looking registration plates on cars, same chain hotels, same products in stores. Everyone look into same phones, reading same news. Much, much less excitement.

REpro says

40-50 years ago

25 years ago you different parts of the US stocked different food items. For instance every gas station East of San Antonio had Tony Chacheres Creole seasoning but that was the cutoff. It was over a decade in California before I noticed it stocked in the bay area.

Now food aside from home cooking or non-chain restaurants is the same.

Different from what you describe for sure but quite noticeable.

just_passing_through says

25 years ago you different parts of the US stocked different food items. For instance every gas station East of San Antonio had Tony Chacheres Creole seasoning but that was the cutoff. It was over a decade in California before I noticed it stocked in the bay area.

Still true - ever had this?

https://www.amazon.com/Cento-Hoagie-Spread-Hot-12/dp/B07L5X9G8B/crid=188TNG1OSH4DR

That's SUPER COMMON on the East Coast. I worked at a little mom and pop place that would literally get that by the gallon.

Every mom and pop hoagie/grinder/sub shop uses it, it's just about impossible to find in the Bay Area. Nobody knows what a "grinder" is probably - it's just another name for a submarine sandwich or a hoagie which is another name for a sandwich. Now it's the thing that Yoel Roth wants little kids to be able to access. Fucking pedophile fuck.

ad says

white liberals thrive behind the gates of their gated communities

And white conservatives are not in this boat?

gabbar says

ad says

white liberals thrive behind the gates of their gated communities

And white conservatives are not in this boat?

They don't try to destroy other communities by encouraging policies that will destroy them.

Look at how "sancturay cities" and communities cried out when they had to deal with the policies they encouraged and supported. I don't agree with the right on many things, but they aren't open hypocrites, at least currently. They called for war against Iraq 20 years ago, but most didn't want to sign up for it. None of the Neocon scum in the state department were US veterans.

gabbar says

ad says

white liberals thrive behind the gates of their gated communities

And white conservatives are not in this boat?

in ca they are.
out here they are on the farms, no fences

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

in ca they are.
out here they are on the farms, no fences

True in Ohio too. Major cities like Columbus, Cleveland are liberal. Areas 50 miles outside major cities tend to be conservation. People live on farms, no fences. Who is good for the country is all that matters but apparently the uniparty businesses are only interested is being in power and serving its funders.

richwicks says

They don't try to destroy other communities by encouraging policies that will destroy them.

They are not opposing wokeism, money printing, wars, outsourcing, illegal and legal immigration either as much as they should. McConnel, that turd Lindsey Graham, Kevin McCarthy etc. Silence is approval. Why don't they oppose? Becoz they agree with Democrats on this (even sanctuary cities)

When I was in Paris several years ago, I was taken back and how prevalent Muslims were there.

BayArea says

When I was in Paris several years ago, I was taken back and how prevalent Muslims were there.

French probably surrendered out of traditional reasons.

Rubicon says

Richwicks, you could put that to the test.

Travel to Turkey and when someone asks where you are from, Just tell the Turks you are part of the indigenous community (a Kurd).

Alternatively, go to Istanbul and open a Bible in the middle of the day and pretend you read it.

Disclaimer: pls don’t actually try any of these things.

Do not confuse Turkey with Saudi Arabia. I was in Antolia in the 90s and Turkey had topless women on the beaches and pools, no mandatory call to prayer, woman walking around just like in any Western country, and you could read whatever you liked in public.

gabbar says

richwicks says

They don't try to destroy other communities by encouraging policies that will destroy them.

They are not opposing wokeism, money printing, wars, outsourcing, illegal and legal immigration either as much as they should. McConnel, that turd Lindsey Graham, Kevin McCarthy etc. Silence is approval. Why don't they oppose? Becoz they agree with Democrats on this (even sanctuary cities)

This is what people mean by "RINOS".

There's two sets of both parties. The Democrats and the democrats, as well as The Republicans, and the republicans.

The Republicans and Democrats, they're the same. they are Neocons. The people who are presented as being in power, aren't. This is why they are above the law. Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, Dennis Hastert - there's a long list. They don't represent anybody, they are representatives of the criminal syndicates that run this nation.

I thought for CERTAIN that it would be "the democrats" that woke up first. Absolutely certain. They realized that George w. Bush lied us into Iraq, properly protested it while "the republicans" were screaming dumb shit like "are you a coward", "Hussein lover", and other stupid shit suitable for retards. But the Obama got elected, bombed 5 more nations all with silly trite and stupid excuses and I realized most of the democrats, were fucking stupid. Few weren't.

The republicans however, they were fed up. Jeb Bush got wiped off the stage, the republicans realized that an orange clown couldn't be worse than a fucking war criminal. They cheered when Trump said we were lied into the Iraq War because WE WERE.

I think DeSantis is likely a Republican. A Neocon.

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford says the whole thing was punishment because Macron intimated that France might leave NATO, so NWO/WEF/Swiss Octagon decided to punish him and show him how quickly they could mount a revolution against him. It wasn't a muslim immigrant insurrection, it was a 'Project Gladio' type operation with organized mercenary insurgents disguised as an immigrant revolt.
However, it is difficult to imagine that Macron would ever go rogue on his masters in any way, so it is also hard to imagine why the Gladio thing would have been necessary.

Ceffer says

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford says the whole thing was punishment because Macron intimated that France might leave NATO, so NWO/WEF/Swiss Octagon decided to punish him and show him how quickly they could mount a revolution against him. It wasn't a muslim immigrant insurrection, it was a 'Project Gladio' type operation with organized mercenary insurgents disguised as an immigrant revolt.
However, it is difficult to imagine that Macron would ever go rogue on his masters in any way, so it is also hard to imagine why the Gladio thing would have been necessary.

I liked this just for the Project Gladio Reference. PatNet - the most informed group of declassified document readers. PUREBLOODS!!

Rubicon says

I know their fucked up culture very well. Richwicks said something like the Turks in Turkey are welcoming

No, I didn't.

I pointed out HISTORICALLY, and I mean over a 1000 years, they are a LOT less violent than Christians but they can be extremely violent.

There was no holocaust of Jews by them, and in fact, the Jews that were driven out in the 1940's into Israel was instigated by agent provocateurs. Iranian Jews hate Israel.

I wouldn't even say the holocaust was a major thing in ACTUAL history, but the Inquisition was. There wasn't a program to systematically kill Jews in Nazi Germany, but there was a systemic goal of removing them from society.

Rubicon says

They hate Christian’s and they hate, hate, hate the Kurds. None of that has anything to do with topless women at the beach and none of that has anything to do with arabs.

The United States calls the PKK a terrorist group.

Those are "our allies" in Syria..

There's no real values or principles at the top. One day the Mujaheddin are our good friends and allies against the Soviets, a decade later, they are the evil Taliban that did 9/11. No principles at all. It's just propaganda. 99% of people don't even recognize that the Mujaheddin and Taliban have to be the same group.

The reason that the countries we bomb, their politics are "so complicated" is that it's not complicated. We prop up terrorists and then we attack the terrorists. We rename them constantly and our government constantly lies about what the factions are. The factions don't change that quickly.

We gave a foreign policy that guarantees war. That's the real policy.

richwicks says

I wouldn't even say the holocaust was a major thing in ACTUAL history, but the Inquisition was. There wasn't a program to systematically kill Jews in Nazi Germany, but there was a systemic goal of removing them from society.

What about the +5 million Jews who died in Nazi concentration and forced labor camps ? Yes, an equal amount of non Jewish people died in those camps also.

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ad says

What about the +5 million Jews who died in Nazi concentration and forced labor camps ?

It was nowhere close to 5 million.

Plenty were killed, those that died, most of them died from complications of starvation due to the Allies cutting off supply lines. Also, I don't know why they were called forced labor camps - they were slave labor camps. We don't know how many people died, but 5 million would have wiped all nearly all Jews of Europe at that time.

ad says

Yes, an equal amount of non Jewish people died in those camps also.

I don't think there is any way of saying honestly. WWII was brutal, all war is. War is stupid and nonproductive, that's why we need to be lied into wars every time. It has its place, but extremely rarely. The only war the US has been involved in that was worth fighting was the revolutionary war, and then we had presidents betray us. We should be enemies with England, and allies with Europe and Russia.