patrick.net

Right off the top of my head from earlier this year:

24-year old up and comer Damar Hamlin of the Buffalo Bills collapsed, went into cardiac arrest, and was in the hospital in critical condition in January of this year:
https://apnews.com/article/damar-hamlin-collapse-buffalo-bills-cincinnati-bengals-c9f684bdaccd1e3f77bda6c77baca75e

And the media was freaking out about "Anti-Vaxxer Conspiracy Theories" over the incredibly healthy young man with absolutely zero pre-existing conditions.

Money quote from lifetime Football player and current NFL Exec Troy Vincent:

“I’ve never seen anything like it since I was playing,” NFL executive Troy Vincent, a six-time Pro Bowl cornerback during his career, said in the conference call early Tuesday. “Immediately, my player hat went on, like, how do you resume playing after seeing a traumatic event in front of you?”

(same article above)

One thing to ask your friend:
How many times have you seen an NFL player, much less a young one, go into cardiac arrest during a Game?

Why is Troy Vincent, an NFL Executive and himself a long time Player, expressing shock having never ever witnessed anything like this before, if it's as "Common" as the WaPo and NPR and other apologists insist?

Flip the pressure back on him!

@BayArea The vaxx kills about 1 in 800 of the ever-vaxxed, according to several lines of evidence:

https://patrick.net/post/1378505/2023-02-09-more-evidence-that-the-toxxine-kills

Are there more than 800 high profile members of the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL? I don't think to.

But we had a near miss (near hit?) with Damar Hamlin.

And a lot of really sus deaths and injuries among the slightly lower profile crowd:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/longtime-nfl-official-carl-madsen-dies-chiefs-titans-232001034.html
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/did-former-nfl-star-wide-receiver
https://www.theepochtimes.com/former-nfl-offensive-lineman-shane-olivea-dead-at-40_4318551.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink
https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-nfl-defensive-lineman-adrian-dingle-dead-at-45
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11039535/Tragedy-former-Denver-Broncos-offensive-linesman-Notre-Dame-star-dies-aged-just-35.html
https://www.survivethenews.com/double-vaccinated-espns-kirk-herbstreit-to-miss-2022-nfl-draft-due-to-blood-clot-video/
https://thespun.com/nfl/longtime-nfl-executive-is-tragically-dead-at-48
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/38-year-old-former-nfl-coach-adam
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/brad-william-henke-dead-orange-is-the-new-black-1235273835/ (former NFL)
https://slaynews.com/news/nfl-star-uche-nwaneri-dies-suddenly-38/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-11680389/Jessie-Lemonier-dead-25-Ex-Detroit-Lions-LA-Chargers-linebacker-news-confirmed-team.html
https://people.com/sports/former-nfl-player-chris-baker-said-he-almost-died-after-stroke/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-11754595/Ex-Detroit-Lions-player-Stanley-Wilson-Jr-died-collapsing-aged-just-40.html
https://www.westernjournal.com/nfl-star-abruptly-retires-30-issues-ominous-warning-not-take-injections-give/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/former-nfl-defensive-end-chris-smith-dies-31-rcna80179
https://www.theblaze.com/news/deion-sanders-foot-amputation-blood-clots-faith

And:

Former NFL and Arkansas quarterback, Ryan Mallett, 35, who was fit and athletic, mysteriously drowned while swimming in the placid Gulf of Mexico in Destin, Florida

Former NFL star Cedric Killings, 45, died on June 21st from pancreatic cancer. Cedric famously survived a broken neck in 2007, but his turbo cancer bested him.

And that's just from a quick search for "NFL" among comments in https://patrick.net/post/1340336/2021-07-29-thread-for-vax-deaths-maimings-and

Personally, I don't think he's entirely wrong asking that question. I still don't know of anyone who's been harmed by the jab. Ask him if he knows of anyone in his circles that have died "suddenly" or young and unexpectedly.

If you count all types of high profile people surely their are millions of them, no? Around the world? How many of those have died suddenly?

@Patrick

There are approximately 2,500 active professional athletes across those four organizations according to Google.

Those players are exerting themselves to the max. Not 1, I repeat, not 1 dead since the jab has started to be administered.

There have been players that collapsed and died prior to the Covid pandemic. You can look up Reggie Lewis as an example. He had a pre-existing heart condition.

Oh and Hamlin is a tough example to anchor around. They guy got smashed in the chest for god’s sake, a violent collision.

BayArea says

Oh and Hamlin is a tough example to anchor around. They guy got smashed in the chest for god’s sake, a violent collision.

Is he the first football player to be smashed in the chest?

Of course not. Yet lifetimers in Football never saw anything like it.

BayArea says

Oh and Hamlin is a tough example to anchor around. They guy got smashed in the chest for god’s sake, a violent collision.

Hardly. I saw the tackle, it was nothing exceptional or unusual about it. I could have taken that tackle, although I would have probably stayed down.

One example, which isn't an athlete, but a mere reporter is Lisa Shaw. There's NO question she died from the vaccination. It's in her autopsy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-58330796

Even the BBC admits it, NOW, finally. They denied it forever. I'm glad one of their own died. How many have they killed? They won't look, and they won't tell us even if they did. Some "news" organization.

Really, what's the point of trying to convince somebody? I know these vaccines have killed people, and if you or your friend refuse to believe it, what do I care?

Most times people engage in this sort of discussion is if they are trying to prove to themselves if they are correct or not. I don't need to do that. This was a disease in which practically nobody died, CERTAINLY wasn't any sort of pandemic. We didn't see bodies in the street. The videos we saw early on of Chinese people just passing out while walking down the street appear to all be fakes, our media and government lied to us repeatedly over and over again - first claiming this was a serious disease and second about mandates like masking and social distancing. They even claimed the flu disappeared for an entire year. We were in such an emergency, supposedly, the nurses were making TikTok dance videos at FUCKING WORK.

They then tried to hype up MonkeyPox, remember that? This is a government that is currently claiming extra-terrestrials are real, told us a Chinese weather balloon was a spy device, that they shut down UFO's that "they couldn't rule out being from an extra-terrestrial origin", that doesn't give a shit about Palestine Ohio, is inviting in illegal immigrants and housing them all over the country at taxpayer expense, who ran "Event 201" which just coincidentally is exactly what happened a year later, who engineered the virus apparently at Wuhan, is lying to us about the Ukraine war, lying about the coup that started that war.

At what point do people just ignore whatever the government says? The government is lying, they always lie.

With regard to are people dying as a result of the vaccines? Yeah, of course. You can't discuss it on FaceBook, you can't create groups to discuss it, you're not allowed to mention it on YouTube except under extremely controlled conditions. KIDs have had heart attacks and strokes, ever year ever heard of that bullshit before? Excess mortality rates have gone up.

If you trust this government, you're a fool. It's just naive and gullible at this point.

I don't see how people can be so comfortable with this government, or be so unaware of how fucking dishonest it is. It's clearly just a group of fucking criminals. They couldn't determine whose cocaine was in the white house. Epstein committed suicide supposedly. Ghislaine Maxwell was prosecuted for sex trafficking but none of her clients were prosecuted. Alex Acosta said straight up that he was told Epstein was intelligence.

It's such a joke.

Look at all this crap I just wrote. Everybody knows it, nobody is going to contradict me, I'm just in disbelief that people just accept this as normal. Government made up a fake fucking pandemic, they tried to inject the population with god knows what, and only they might know the long term consequences. Who knows? Maybe people will start dropping like flies next year, and our government will of course say it's some new disease. Could be the vaccines are designed to kill. People (?) will accept anything. They'll believe anything. It's disgusting but that's the way it is.

Maybe the biggest sports names got the ticker tape from Switzerland, and got only placebos for show.

They are dropping left and right like flies, but if you are willing to consider commotio cordis - which happens 1 in 100 years in non athletes - for hamlin, then nothing will convince you

mell says

They are dropping left and right like flies, but if you are willing to consider commotio cordis - which happens 1 in 100 years in non athletes - for hamlin, then nothing will convince you

Dropping like flies? Really? When you use that phrase, shouldn't it have some meaningful measure? If 1 in 800 is true, is that "dropping like flies"? Really?

BayArea says

If the vaccine is unproven, dangerous, and leads to people dropping dead, how have we not had a single high profile case of a vaccinated professional athlete dropping dead in the NFL, NBA, MLB, or NHL since the start widely distributed vaccinations ?

Does your friend understand probability? There's a number of qualifiers on their statement. One, the person has to be a professional athlete, two they have to play in the United States, and three the case has to be "high profile". Can they quantify what high profile is supposed to mean? But more importantly I would ask them why will you only accept this scenario for people dropping dead before you're willing to recognize something is wrong? Do normal people not count? For any vaccine, if there is even a single death, it's pulled from production. So you've already moved the target once by allowing anyone to die from this and saying it's ok, but now you've gone even further with your qualifiers, where will it stop? How bad does shit have to get for you to admit there's a problem, is there a cut-off, or will you always insist everything is fine? And what about the record cases of heart problems in professional athletes that have forced them to earlier retirement, only death is an acceptable indicator of something wrong to you?

The entire premise is ludicrous and shows someone in deep denial. I don't see the point in engaging.

Searched each three letter sport with died suddenly, not very hard to find:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/former-nfl-player-jessie-lemonier-dies-at-25
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/22/sport/caleb-swanigan-death-spt-intl/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/former-mets-minor-leaguer-matt-pobereyko-dies-31-heart-attack-rcna72446
https://www.si.com/nhl/2023/04/12/former-nhl-player-raymond-sawada-dies-during-game-age-38

GNL says

Personally, I don't think he's entirely wrong asking that question. I still don't know of anyone who's been harmed by the jab. Ask him if he knows of anyone in his circles that have died "suddenly" or young and unexpectedly.

Upstairs neighbor had multiple strokes, hospitalized for over a month, lost the ability to walk for months, needed a cane for months. Friend's grandfather died. Massage therapists ex-husband died. Friend had/has brain fog. Aunt died suddenly. All had one or more shots.

Myself and my family including young, fully unvaxxed kids traveled and moved in 2020, never masked, don't use anti-bacterial anything, we're all fine, and don't have to worry about that ever changing due to unknown long term health affects.

I don't know a single person who didn't take the shots and had anything happen to them, and where I live, that was most people.

BayArea says

Those players are exerting themselves to the max. Not 1, I repeat, not 1 dead since the jab has started to be administered.

@BayArea

https://www.bladeofsteel.com/NFL-player-dies-suddenly-at-25-202914

Sad news from the sporting world. Today the Detroit Lions confirmed that Jessie Lemonier had passed away at 25-years-old. Lemonier played 7 games with the Lions last year and highlighted his season by a sack on Aaron Rodgers.

Here are a few more:

https://patrick.net/post/1342984/2021-12-16-thread-for-athletes-murdered-by-pfauci

I saw a stat that the rate for athlete death is up 50x relative to before the vaxx. Trying to find it.

You might also consult https://www.amazon.com/Cause-Epidemic-Sudden-Childrens-Defense/dp/1510776397/




Has lots of good actuarial stats.

@BayArea

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jaylon-ferguson-dead-baltimore-ravens-linebacker-dies-at-26/

A shocking loss. Baltimore Ravens player Jaylon Ferguson died at the age of 26.

ESPN reported on Wednesday that authorities responded to a call in northern Baltimore at 11:25 p.m. on Tuesday, June 21. The Louisiana native was found unresponsive and pronounced dead on the scene despite receiving treatment from medics. Officers stated there were no signs of trauma or foul play, with an official cause of death still to be determined.

So that's at least two, right?

As I mentioned this is pointless. This individual has moved the goal posts so many times, their definition of what's acceptable is shot to shit.

Maybe all GNL's peeps got the placebo?

Here's a way to check:

https://howbad.info/

stereotomy says

Maybe all GNL's peeps got the placebo?

Here's a way to check:

https://howbad.info/

I have no idea why I don't know anyone that's been harmed. This includes people in the Carolinas, New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia, Seattle, Michigan, Pennsylvania, West Virginia etc.

You can check by zip code on the site as well. Go ahead, see if anyone you know zipcode-wise got a hot shot. The Danish study showed that there were three distinct classes of shot: 1) essentially placebo 2) mild symptoms 3) extreme severe symptoms. The third group was under 10% of the total number of shots,but caused over 80% of adverse reactions.

Who cares what GNL wants to think. I told my vaxxed Santa Cruz friend that my wife and I would flee as vax refugees if they tried to force us to take that poison. Shoulda seen his eyes pop wide open. I tried not to say anything to him before after he got the vax (his vaxxed son in law died at 59), his sister got extremely ill, but I don't care any more. I told him he is free to put whatever he wants into his body, but leave me out of it.

It is starting to dawn on him that I have been right, but he has trouble admitting it because he got the vax after I told him not to. The Globalists did study the psychological implications of contagion and its blinding effects on the populace very well.