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just_passing_through says

This is true I had a giant ass refund and they wouldn't give it to me until I did the face scan. Fuckers.

Didn't have any problem getting my refund check mailed to me.

NuttBoxer says

Didn't have any problem getting my refund check mailed to me.

Maybe your refund was not giant-assed enough. Might be they want a face scan for above $25k or so.

I think it's about online stuff. I always fill out paper tax forms and mail them. WTF would I make it easier for the IRS? They want my money, they'll have to spend the resources to obtain it - no robots, real people need to read and key input the paper info.

stereotomy says

I think it's about online stuff. I always fill out paper tax forms and mail them. WTF would I make it easier for the IRS? They want my money, they'll have to spend the resources to obtain it - no robots, real people need to read and key input the paper info.

Same

https://notthebee.com/article/its-here-a-mom-was-just-kicked-out-of-madison-square-garden-because-facial-recognition-identified-her-as-an-employee-of-a-company-suing-the-gardens-parent-company

Protip: Don't do it, and just wait for it to be declared unconstitutional and or the practice discontinued.
Get your IRS payment plus the interest. With Biden inflation that interest might get pretty big by then.

NuttBoxer says

Grow a beard, sunglasses, hats, car visors, only go to places with cameras at night, live someplace with no cameras. The list is endless. If you want privacy you can achieve it, most people just aren't willing to put in the work, so they prefer the cop-out that it's not achievable.

I've heard that the technology is getting to the point that they can ID you from the way you walk. I have no idea if that's true. I've personally conceded that they can probably recreate most of my life from cameras and digital footprint at this point.

stereotomy says

I think it's about online stuff. I always fill out paper tax forms and mail them. WTF would I make it easier for the IRS? They want my money, they'll have to spend the resources to obtain it - no robots, real people need to read and key input the paper info.

I doubt they do that manually anymore: OCR software is pretty capable nowadays. So you are not making their life that much harder, if at all.

Eric Holder says

stereotomy says

I think it's about online stuff. I always fill out paper tax forms and mail them. WTF would I make it easier for the IRS? They want my money, they'll have to spend the resources to obtain it - no robots, real people need to read and key input the paper info.

I doubt they do that manually anymore: OCR software is pretty capable nowadays. So you are not making their life that much harder, if at all.

I'm making it as hard on them as physically possible, with the exception of filing amended returns every year, which definitely are hand-reviewed. If, as you baselessly claim, that paper forms are no big deal, then yes, I will now file amended returns so that I can burn the eyeballs of IRS goons before they can get my money.

DhammaStep says

NuttBoxer says

Grow a beard, sunglasses, hats, car visors, only go to places with cameras at night, live someplace with no cameras. The list is endless. If you want privacy you can achieve it, most people just aren't willing to put in the work, so they prefer the cop-out that it's not achievable.

I've heard that the technology is getting to the point that they can ID you from the way you walk. I have no idea if that's true. I've personally conceded that they can probably recreate most of my life from cameras and digital footprint at this point.

Yes, it's true. And they will soon be able to track your cash purchases unless it's peer to peer. So even cash at a super market will be traceable if you pulled it from an ATM. ATM's of big banks already track the numbers on the bills that get dispensed. They'll then scan the bills with the armored truck company and know where you purchased stuff.

I don't think people realize how they can't avoid this. Vegas casinos have had facial recognition for almost 2 decades. It was a playground to test privacy since it was a vice, cash as well. Government now has better tech than you can imagine. We have missiles that can be launched from under water and land within 3 feet of a target. Camera and facial/movement recognition are already happening.

If you have a job/file taxes, SS#, registered vehicle and a drivers license you're done from the word go. Privacy be damned. Almost everyone has this stuff.

stereotomy says

Eric Holder says

stereotomy says

I think it's about online stuff. I always fill out paper tax forms and mail them. WTF would I make it easier for the IRS? They want my money, they'll have to spend the resources to obtain it - no robots, real people need to read and key input the paper info.

I doubt they do that manually anymore: OCR software is pretty capable nowadays. So you are not making their life that much harder, if at all.

I'm making it as hard on them as physically possible, with the exception of filing amended returns every year, which definitely are hand-reviewed. If, as you baselessly claim, that paper forms are no big deal, then yes, I will now file amended returns so that I can burn the eyeballs of IRS goons before they can get my money.

They may be hand-reviewed at some point, but not by pouring over your hand-filled forms: the shit gets OCRd and pulled into the system. Maybe if it's flagged for some reason somebody might look at the actual paper, but I doubt it happens often. You'll probably have to drag them to court to force them to do that.

But there is nothing wrong with believing that there is a dedicated IRS agent wearing protective sleeves and green visor squinting at your chicken scratch, popping Aspirins and grunting in agony if it makes paying taxes more bearable. =))

stereotomy says

I doubt they do that manually anymore: OCR software is pretty capable nowadays. So you are not making their life that much harder, if at all.

I'm making it as hard on them as physically possible, with the exception of filing amended returns every year, which definitely are hand-reviewed. If, as you baselessly claim, that paper forms are no big deal, then yes, I will now file amended returns so that I can burn the eyeballs of IRS goons before they can get my money.

Eric Holder is correct. It's all scanned and digitized even if hand written. If it's not legible you're just going to have to do your taxes a 2nd or 3rd time depending on how long you want to play. Not saying I think the process is right, I just don't want my home liened by the IRS or go to jail over something that is pretty easy for 70% of people. Get one of the services that lock your SS# if that's the concern.

Mind you I don't think the IRS should exist. But it does. I prefer having my personal time and not worrying about it. All you're doing by making their job harder is bleeding yourself and other tax payers when they hire more people to handle tax filings. You lose time having to clarify or redo taxes. That's a lose lose proposition. No change will occur and if anything you'll be flagged and audited in the future.

Again, I don't like it, but sometimes you just play the game.

Eric Holder says

stereotomy says

Eric Holder says

stereotomy says

I think it's about online stuff. I always fill out paper tax forms and mail them. WTF would I make it easier for the IRS? They want my money, they'll have to spend the resources to obtain it - no robots, real people need to read and key input the paper info.

I doubt they do that manually anymore: OCR software is pretty capable nowadays. So you are not making their life that much harder, if at all.

I'm making it as hard on them as physically possible, with the exception of filing amended returns every year, which definitely are hand-reviewed. If, as you baselessly claim, that paper forms are no big deal, then yes, I will now fi...

As late as 2020, I had a hand-written and reviewed amended return submitted back to me - in ballpoint pen. Believe what you like, but I personally observed the reality, whether you like it or not. Perhaps in 2023, I'll have IRS agents with outlawed assault weapons interview me at my doorstep. It's about as unlikely as what you have so far baselessly claimed. Stick to your Ukraine propaganda.

DhammaStep says

I've heard that the technology is getting to the point that they can ID you from the way you walk. I have no idea if that's true. I've personally conceded that they can probably recreate most of my life from cameras and digital footprint at this point.

For sure. But I've never heard of that getting employed outside of terrorists and bank robbers.

WookieMan says

If you have a job/file taxes, SS#, registered vehicle and a drivers license you're done from the word go. Privacy be damned. Almost everyone has this stuff.

You guys know I live in a small town. I didn't realize they had put up a new no parking sign and got ticketed. In retaliation I took down the sign. But not before CHP almost caught me. So sheriff comes to the complex, but all they know is the person who did it owns my car. It's registered in Arizona. So they hang out in the parking lot for half hour asking people and end up leaving with their dicks in their hands.

I have all the stuff you listed, but it all ties to different locations, and NONE of it ties to where I actually live. You have as much privacy as you want, there's always a choice.

I always file for payment in check, trying to owe, but still ended up getting just under $200 this year. Check came within a few weeks of filing. Fuck facial recognition, you don't even have to give them your bank info.

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/3-items-of-interest

But never for voting or dropping off mass amounts of mail-in ballots.

OpenAI guy just pushed a global ID/coin that requires biometrics. Stop building the bars before they finish the lock and seal us all in.

stereotomy says

As late as 2020, I had a hand-written and reviewed amended return submitted back to me - in ballpoint pen.

Prove it.

personal

Soo, was anyone here forced to scan their face by IRS the summer before last summer? Or last summer? Yes? No?