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Trollhole says

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/a-viable-realism-and-revival-doctrine/

To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market.

I doubt Russia is ever again going to trust the "world market", which means the West alone and their Swift payment system. The US has irrevocably destroyed its credibility with all countries by confiscating Russia's assets. The pant-wetting hysteria and hatred for Russia among US foreign policy establishment will never be forgotten. Russian military alliance with China is now impossible to reverse.

Right now, India is the world’s largest arms importer, as well as a strong center for technology and engineering. The American defense industry needs time to grow and recover from decades of post-Cold War mismanagement.

Ah, an indication that Ramaswamy is beholden to the US arms industry like so many other politicians.

We can use trade and tech transfer to unleash India’s tech and manufacturing might to not just arm India but other regional allies – to transform them from importer to exporter.

Isn't this the exact mistake made with China?

I will be honest with our partners abroad as I will be with our own citizens: the U.S. government’s job is exclusively to represent the interests of Americans.

I'm getting the impression that he also represents the interests of weapons makers and India.

It shows a lot of Americans, even skeptical conservatives, can be taken in by a white shoe political imposter blathering the sociopathic lies they want to hear. They won't even try to find out where these guys come from, although origins are usually fake legends, anyway.

Obama was the template for the complete Manchurian Intel manufactured fake. Biden is the template for the dead figurehead resurrected by a Intel agency masked fake puppet controlled from the shadow SES.

These two show the overweening arrogance and contempt of the populace that the Globalists now feel free to exercise openly.

Patrick says

The pant-wetting hysteria and hatred for Russia among US foreign policy establishment will never be forgotten.

Russia illegal invasion of Ukraine (and resultant death toll) is the biggest conventional war and calamity in Europe since WWII.

In what universe should Russia's invasion causing the deaths and maiming of HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS human beings not result in "hysteria" or "hatred" of Russia? Especially in Europe and the USSR's former slave colonies? What did the majority of the Poles tell you during your visit?

If Russia were to somehow miraculously "win" in the next 12 months, do you think the world will be safer or more unstable? If Russia "wins" do you think China is more or less likely to start a new war to invade Taiwan?

I think as an American and a person that wants world peace, stability and greater freedom for Americans and our European and Asian partners - it is in our interest to want to see Russia's cock-up of a war to end in failure.

If Russia wins, we are going to see the US Industrial Complex grow on steroids!

We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here. The media and warmonger narrative sounds like the same bullshit that was spouted during the Vietnam War. And the US eventuality retreated with its tail tucked. This conflict is fucking asinine and could be wound down starting with a ceasefire and diplomacy tomorrow. It's irrelevant who is "leading" in this war as both sides tech is approximately close enough to waste many more lives over the next years

mell says

We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here. The media and warmonger narrative sounds like the same bullshit that was spouted during the Vietnam War.

Right - except the US is doing no fighting and watching one of our biggest political, economic and military adversaries (who funded Marxist insurgencies around the world causing incalculable human damage) get its military severely degraded which will hopefully deter future aggression from the likes of Communist China.

Can't imagine a better ROI on our bloated military budget then sending weapons (many that were due to be destroyed) to Ukraine to use on Russian invaders.

socal2 says

get its military severely degraded

This is another fake news myth. Russia hasn't even used a fraction of its military capacity.

If anything, Russian competence in Ukraine has assured that it has customers lined up all over the world now for its military technology. Ramp up the Russian MIC! Thank you, Globalista Scum.

https://notthebee.com/article/presidential-hopeful-vivek-ramaswamy-has-been-locked-out-of-linkedin-for-hate-speech

LinkedIn has locked Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy out of his account for what they've labeled as "violence" "misinformation," and "hate speech" after several posts he made about China and climate change.

Here are the "hateful" posts:

The climate agenda is a lie: fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity.

"The CCP is playing the Biden administration like a Chinese mandolin."

"If the climate religion was really about climate change, then they'd be worried about, say, shifting oil production from the U.S. to places like Russia and China."

Oh, the horror!

If they can do it to me, they can really do it to anybody. These aren't really the actions of private companies. These are so-called privately held companies, or publicly traded private companies, that are doing the work of the government through the backdoor: silencing speech that the government would never dare to censor.

OK, Ramaswamy gets some legitimacy points because he is getting banned by Homo-Globo Incorporated now.

Ceffer says

This is another fake news myth. Russia hasn't even used a fraction of its military capacity.

If anything, Russian competence in Ukraine has assured that it has customers lined up all over the world now for its military technology. Ramp up the Russian MIC! Thank you, Globalista Scum.

Bizarro world stuff.......

Russian competence in Ukraine? In what universe?

We are to believe that Russia is purposefully holding back the majority of its military capability so it can be embarrass itself to the whole world that it can't complete its 14 day mission on their next door neighbor that is supposedly full of pro-Russians?

We are to ignore the thousands and thousands of videos showing Russians pushing out 50+ year old tanks and poorly armed prisoners and conscripts into the meat grinder?

Lots of Indians and Pakis lining up to buy Russian tanks with their cope cages?

Patrick says

OK, Ramaswamy gets some legitimacy points because he is getting banned by Homo-Globo Incorporated now.

Nobody should be posting stuff like that on LI anyway, in my view.

Patrick says

OK, Ramaswamy gets some legitimacy points because he is getting banned by Homo-Globo Incorporated now.

Nobody should be posting stuff like that on LI anyway, in my view.socal2 says

Bizarro world stuff.......

Russian competence in Ukraine? In what universe?

Where have you been? Or rather, what Ukey propaganda have you been watching?

Russia has been sitting in defensive positions for months, letting the Ukeys kill themselves in the tens of thousands against them.

Russians are using time as their primary weapon. Time that the Ukeys don't have. Seems smart to me.

Ukey tanks, not Russian:

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1696909625524666613

@VivekGRamaswamy
Parents know what is best for their kids, not the teachers unions, not U.S. Department of Education. I will shut down the U.S. Dept. of Education without apology & use its $80+ billion budget on school safety, school choice, and vocational programs, instead of foisting toxic ideologies onto kids.

https://slaynews.com/news/ramaswamy-vows-publish-epsteins-client-list-lets-see-what-crawls-out/

Ramaswamy Vows to Publish Epstein’s ‘Client List’: ‘Let’s See What Crawls Out’

Seems to be setting himself up to get assassinated by the deep state pedo crowd.

Maybe Ramaswamy is part of Deep State strategy to prevent Trump from getting into office again.

Maybe he was created specifically to say all the truths that are suppressed by the media, but once in office, he will just do the usual outsourcing to China, insourcing of illegals, and endless wars.

Patrick says

Maybe Ramaswamy is part of Deep State strategy to prevent Trump from getting into office again.

Bingo

HeadSet says

Patrick says

Maybe Ramaswamy is part of Deep State strategy to prevent Trump from getting into office again.

Bingo

Howso? He is his biggest supporter. He's a net positive for Trump so far. Not buying any of these conspiracy theories. Whereas on the left the 3rd party movement around Cornell West is gaining momentum

At the very least, we get to hear Ramaswamy say the truth to a large audience. That is valuable.

Ramawamy is going to make lot of republican question many things. Choice will be between principals vs race. Hope right choice is made or it will split the party n make dems win.

Patrick says

Maybe Ramaswamy is part of Deep State strategy to prevent Trump from getting into office again.

Maybe he was created specifically to say all the truths that are suppressed by the media, but once in office, he will just do the usual outsourcing to China, insourcing of illegals, and endless wars.

Recall Bush II. During his first campaign, he promised to end the policy of nation building and never ending wars. September 11 conveniently changed all of that and ushered in a policy of endless wars and military campaigns in the Middle East.

Another example; after the disaster of WW I, FDR's promised in his campaigns to 'never send your boys to fight in any European war.' He then manipulated Japan to attack us via his embargoes of the island nation. His response to Pearl Harbor? He pretty much ignored Japan, but immediately began America's European campaign.

The lesson? You cannot trust what most politicians say because most are controlled by the elite cabal. Trump was the only President in my lifetime that actually delivered on his campaign promises and look what the power brokers have done to him.

https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1696665431933612480

I wonder if someone will ask Ramaswamy during a press conference or interview about that pump and dump.

The fact that Vivek says nothing about the death jab convinces me that he is a Deep State plant.

https://twitter.com/ocdmamadrama/status/1728471038508314992

Vivek INTENTIONALLY copies Obama!

I like Vivek better than Pence, Haley, or What's his name.

DeSantis! I like Vivek better than Ronnie D.

Vivek smoked asshole warmongers Christie and Haley well. Love this guy. Go Vivek!

I'd love him if only he would speak up about the death jab.

But he never does.

There are tons of vaccines polio , mmr, ...
All meds have side effects, they literally say it's risk based approach.

They made vaccine, but they didn't know side effects. They also don't have time to figure out severity of covid so it must be done fast. It's chiken egg scenario. They have to give Vax to find out side effects. Even trump expedited Vax also. Since vivek was not in politics during Vax time, he doesn't speak about it.

What I hated was forced Vax though. They can offer volunteer Vax, bribe french fry etc, but don't make ppl quit jobs over it.

Given any pandemic, lockdown n Vax are only actions. What can govt do besides that?

KgK one says

There are tons of vaccines polio , mmr, ...
All meds have side effects, they literally say it's risk based approach.

They made vaccine, but they didn't know side effects. They also don't have time to figure out severity of covid so it must be done fast. It's chiken egg scenario. They have to give Vax to find out side effects. Even trump expedited Vax also. Since vivek was not in politics during Vax time, he doesn't speak about it.

What I hated was forced Vax though. They can offer volunteer Vax, bribe french fry etc, but don't make ppl quit jobs over it.

Given any pandemic, lockdown n Vax are only actions. What can govt do besides that?

What country are you from because it certainly can't be one that loves freedom. Do whatever you need to do to protect yourself. You have no right to tell anyone else what to do. Simple.

Patrick says

I'd love him if only he would speak up about the death jab.

But he never does.

It's a lose for him, and he's thinking Art of War.

If he admits it - "Har! Trump made a huge mistake!" and to amplify it, the Media will suddenly blame Trump and forget that Fauci and all the Federal Admin was pushing him on the vax hard.

It won't effect us hardcore Trump supporters, but it will leverage away a handful of independent voters, and there will be so much cheating we're going to have to MAGA 1776x.

After he wins he'll probably fix it, and pardon the J6ers.

KgK one says

Given any pandemic,

It WASN'T a pandemic. If we had an outbreak of Black Death or Ebola, then such steps would be reasonable. In this case of "Covid," forced experimental agents and lockdowns were just a dry run for fascism.

HeadSet says

If we had an outbreak of Black Death or Ebola, then such steps would be reasonable.

A REAL pandemic wouldn't need to force or scare anyone into self preservation mode. People would take all these actions on their own.

AmericanKulak says

Patrick says

I'd love him if only he would speak up about the death jab.

But he never does.

It's a lose for him, and he's thinking Art of War.

If he admits it - "Har! Trump made a huge mistake!" and to amplify it, the Media will suddenly blame Trump and forget that Fauci and all the Federal Admin was pushing him on the vax hard.

It won't effect us hardcore Trump supporters, but it will leverage away a handful of independent voters, and there will be so much cheating we're going to have to MAGA 1776x.

After he wins he'll probably fix it, and pardon the J6ers.

He did say that the mandates were wrong and that the shots were far worse than advertised/believed since free speech was suppressed. It's not a winning talking point anymore. Those of the church of pfauci have taken their 50 boosters and the patnet pure bloods are on the other side. Without mandates people don't care about toxxines

GNL says

HeadSet says

If we had an outbreak of Black Death or Ebola, then such steps would be reasonable.

A REAL pandemic wouldn't need to force or scare anyone into self preservation mode. People would take all these actions on their own.

Yeah like something out of a Steve King novel like The Stand. If it gets that bad, then society breaks down. Government collapses and fails. Everyone is on their own akin to Mad Max Road Warrior.

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Here is Vivek on DEI.
Seems to me that DEI is a long standing political program of the liberals that originally had good intentions.

Damn, Ramaswamy is good.

Idiot woke reporter asked him if he "condemns white supremacy".

On Wednesday, a Washington Post reporter ridiculously asked him to “condemn white supremacy and white nationalism” and was utterly destroyed as a result.

"I'm not — I'm not going to recite some catechism for you,” Ramaswamy began. "I'm against vicious racial discrimination in this country. So I'm not pledging allegiance to your new religion of modern wokeism which absolutely fits the test."

"I'm not going to bend the knee to your religion. I'm sorry, I'm not asking you to bend the knee to mine and I'm not going to bend the knee to yours. But do I condemn vicious racial discrimination? Yes, I do. Am I going to play your silly game of ‘Gotcha'? No, I'm not. And frankly, this is why people have lost trust [in the media]."

Ramaswamy continued, "And I know you’re going to go print the headline tomorrow. I already know this, we already know how your game works. 'Vivek Ramaswamy Refuses to Condemn Racism,' because you asked a stupid question. The reality is, I condemn vicious racial discrimination in this country, but the kind of vicious and systematic racism we see today is discrimination on the basis of race in a very different direction."

"You want to know what the best way is to end discrimination on the basis of race?" Vivek asked. "Stop discriminating on the basis of race. Do that, and we're going to move this country forward, and I don't care whether you're black or white or brown or anything in between. That's how we're going to unite this country."

Ramaswamy then went on to blast the media for intentionally using race to divide our nation.

“You people have been responsible for dividing this country to a breaking point, creating a projection of national division. I meet people from the South Side of Chicago to meetings like this one — of every shade of melanin [...] man to woman, doesn't make a difference — who are hungry for reviving unity in this country. And you, with your catechism that you try to get politicians to — whatever fake headline you're going to print on the basis of this conversation tomorrow — that's what's dividing this country to a breaking point. Shame on you. Look people in the eye and tell them what you've actually failed to tell them for the last five years. Own the accountability for your own failures as the media — that's how we rebuild trust in this country. And until then, I don't have a lot of patience to play the games."

Vivek previously went viral when an Iowa voter challenged him on LGBTQ issues. He responded by pointing out the blatant inconsistencies of the movement, namely its original claim that sexual orientation is hardwired at birth, which was a foundation of the gay rights movement, to the current belief that one's biological sex can be fluid throughout life. He also pointed out contradictions in the feminist movement, which initially embraced diverse expressions of womanhood but now suggests any deviation from traditional womanhood means that a woman is actually a man.

Also good:

Vivek Ramaswamy

@VivekGRamaswamy
·
Nov 20, 2023
It’s time to stop saying “People of Color.”

It’s meaningless to classify people by skin color. It needlessly pits “whites” against “nonwhites.”

In the USA, we are Americans. Period.

He says a lot of good things.

Round Two:

Racial division is a treasure trove of chaos. The left will never give up that ammo. And because it's in human nature to distrust those who are not "like me", it is fabulously effective. The left has and always will be sons of bitches and daughters of witches. Anyone, at this point, who advocates for diversity is either retarded or has an agenda.

Vivek says a lot of good things and he is a fantastic debater. I just wish he'd get more questions about the jab, the right to bodily autonomy and the MIC.