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Is my perception off or is California looking more sh*tty these days?
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2023 Nov 13, 6:32am 3,939 views 55 comments
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 14, 9:32am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 14, 9:32am
Also, where have you been hiding Goran? Or did you just take me off ignore?
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:40am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:40am
NuttBoxer says
lol, I don't think I have anyone on ignore. This is my first topic or post in over a year. I've just been busy enjoying life, and sometimes posting social media, though I admit it's not something I do very much anymore. I thought about Pat.net recently because of my SF trip, and was just shocked by how terrible the city looks.
Also, where have you been hiding Goran? Or did you just take me off ignore?
lol, I don't think I have anyone on ignore. This is my first topic or post in over a year. I've just been busy enjoying life, and sometimes posting social media, though I admit it's not something I do very much anymore. I thought about Pat.net recently because of my SF trip, and was just shocked by how terrible the city looks.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:41am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:41am
Patrick says
That's a slap in the face of every business that closed down over the past 3 years because of crime, homelessness, and general filth. How Californians can continue to vote for Newsom is beyond me.
https://www.libsoftiktok.com/p/daily-briefing-nj-drag-shows-san?publication_id=824253&post_id=138820122&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz
SAN FRANCISCO STREETS MIRACULOUSLY CLEANED FOR APEC SUMMIT
The dirty streets of San Francisco, California were suddenly made spotless for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit, for which President Xi of China will be in attendance. The streets were also lined with gated fences.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1723516125487460811
That's my old workday turf.
That's a slap in the face of every business that closed down over the past 3 years because of crime, homelessness, and general filth. How Californians can continue to vote for Newsom is beyond me.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
I don't think they did. That recall was as scammy as the 2020 Presidential race results.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
WookieMan says
You might be right about the killing part lol, but definitely not something I personally would engage in at the moment. I'm getting too old, and not too far from retirement. I'll leave Civil War part 2 to the younger, stronger men.
As for Texas, sure it may become blue in the future, but Abbot won by a million votes over Beto. Also, a lot of transplants coming from California actually turn out to be conservative. Exit polls showed that Ted Cruz only stayed in office because of conservative transplants, not "home grown" Texan votes.
Now, 10-20 years in the future? Who knows? California had a Republican governor 20 years ago. But by that time, I'll more than likely be retired overseas if it gets way too bad here in the states (I already own a vacation home in Portugal), and I don't care if the Demon-Rats take over and ruin the country. They'll deserve everything they vote for at that time.
Democrats are parasites/virus. You cannot stop them. The only way is to kill them if I'm being honest. And I'm not promoting that, but I'm just calling them what they are. Texas is doomed, you just don't know it yet. Learn to live amongst the parasites and figure out how to find like minded people to get off their fucking ass and do something.
You might be right about the killing part lol, but definitely not something I personally would engage in at the moment. I'm getting too old, and not too far from retirement. I'll leave Civil War part 2 to the younger, stronger men.
As for Texas, sure it may become blue in the future, but Abbot won by a million votes over Beto. Also, a lot of transplants coming from California actually turn out to be conservative. Exit polls showed that Ted Cruz only stayed in office because of conservative transplants, not "home grown" Texan votes.
Now, 10-20 years in the future? Who knows? California had a Republican governor 20 years ago. But by that time, I'll more than likely be retired overseas if it gets way too bad here in the states (I already own a vacation home in Portugal), and I don't care if the Demon-Rats take over and ruin the country. They'll deserve everything they vote for at that time.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:53am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:53am
NuttBoxer says
Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not 100% in on the voter scamming because of the sheer amount of Demon-Rat morons who have infected all facets of life in CommieFornia. The K-12 system is basically 99% far left leaning liberals, and because of that, I do think that California public schools are producing tons of far left graduates. This slant also shows up at most of the public California colleges.
Now I do think that in closer races, say an election of 1-3 points in difference, Demon-Rats have an advantage because of ballot harvesting.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
I don't think they did. That recall was as scammy as the 2020 Presidential race results.
Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not 100% in on the voter scamming because of the sheer amount of Demon-Rat morons who have infected all facets of life in CommieFornia. The K-12 system is basically 99% far left leaning liberals, and because of that, I do think that California public schools are producing tons of far left graduates. This slant also shows up at most of the public California colleges.
Now I do think that in closer races, say an election of 1-3 points in difference, Demon-Rats have an advantage because of ballot harvesting.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 10:16am
Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 10:16am
Goran_K says
You haven't gone to the polling stations. Rotting old gomers and Chinese apparatchiks, no identification required, Dominion or their ilk voting machines. You just roll in and ask for a printed ballot to be counted on the 'convenient' machines. If you fill one out by hand, they put it in a hamper, they are never counted, and the 'results' are declared within hours by some statistical plurality manipulation. Also, you can smell the Kommie hall monitors a mile away, smiling their greasy, hypocritical smiles, as you climb onto the 'You Are Served' election UFO.
It is obvious the polling places and the voting are nothing but a hollow sham. As is the modern custom in the KommieKunt Soros Fecal Impaction appointments, they don't even try to hide the fraud any more.
At least a few years ago, they play acted at legitimacy and appearances. Now, it is all Potemkin.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
You haven't gone to the polling stations. Rotting old gomers and Chinese apparatchiks, no identification required, Dominion or their ilk voting machines. You just roll in and ask for a printed ballot to be counted on the 'convenient' machines. If you fill one out by hand, they put it in a hamper, they are never counted, and the 'results' are declared within hours by some statistical plurality manipulation. Also, you can smell the Kommie hall monitors a mile away, smiling their greasy, hypocritical smiles, as you climb onto the 'You Are Served' election UFO.
It is obvious the polling places and the voting are nothing but a hollow sham. As is the modern custom in the KommieKunt Soros Fecal Impaction appointments, they don't even try to hide the fraud any more.
At least a few years ago, they play acted at legitimacy and appearances. Now, it is all Potemkin.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 14, 1:53pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 14, 1:53pm
Goran_K says
So how did the recall happen in the first place? And that's what it was, not an election. If you can make Biden look like the most popular candidate in US history, no number is insurmountable. Change the algorithm to switch half the remove votes to keep, there's your two million.
If you don't understand how they'll keep winning every "election" post 2020, I don't know what you tell you. Wake the fuck up, they aren't tying your hands behind your back before you step into the ring, they're fucking loping them off.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
So how did the recall happen in the first place? And that's what it was, not an election. If you can make Biden look like the most popular candidate in US history, no number is insurmountable. Change the algorithm to switch half the remove votes to keep, there's your two million.
If you don't understand how they'll keep winning every "election" post 2020, I don't know what you tell you. Wake the fuck up, they aren't tying your hands behind your back before you step into the ring, they're fucking loping them off.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 2:58pm
Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 2:58pm
Peasants, Plebs, and useless eaters are being humiliated and shown their place under the boot. We'll piss on them on the way out.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 6:36am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 6:36am
NuttBoxer says
I admit there are shenanigans of more effect in certain swing states. Pennsylvania and Arizona are the top potential fraud states for me because of voting machine "malfunctions" on election day (every damn time).
But I don't buy that California is one of them because of the sheer amount of libturds that live there. I do think Democrats are winning legitimately in many California districts because there are some where the registered Republican percentage is less than 15%, especially around LA and SF.
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
Goran_K says
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
So how did the recall happen in the first place? And that's what it was, not an election. If you can make Biden look like the most popular candidate in US history, no number is insurmountable. Change the algorithm to switch half the remove votes to keep, there's your two million.
If you don't understand how they'll keep winning every "election" post 2020, I don't know what you tell you. Wake the fuck up, they aren't tying your hands behind your back before you step into the ring, they're fucking loping them off.
I admit there are shenanigans of more effect in certain swing states. Pennsylvania and Arizona are the top potential fraud states for me because of voting machine "malfunctions" on election day (every damn time).
But I don't buy that California is one of them because of the sheer amount of libturds that live there. I do think Democrats are winning legitimately in many California districts because there are some where the registered Republican percentage is less than 15%, especially around LA and SF.
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
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HeadSet
2023 Nov 15, 6:43am
HeadSet
2023 Nov 15, 6:43am
Goran_K says
They save the fraud for the statewide (Governor and President, maybe Senate) positions. Statewide fraud allows one to pick the best precincts to manipulate. Not as much opportunity with smaller district elections.
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
They save the fraud for the statewide (Governor and President, maybe Senate) positions. Statewide fraud allows one to pick the best precincts to manipulate. Not as much opportunity with smaller district elections.
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RC2006
2023 Nov 15, 6:56am
RC2006
2023 Nov 15, 6:56am
California is full of parasites. They do vote for crazy left/commie shit. I cant even count how many Ive talked to and couldnt even comprehend how stupid and illogical thier thought process worked. They live in an alternate reality and any attempt to change that causes them to rage.
If you think CA voters dont vote for insanity you havent lived there long or roamed around in the cities and talked to enough people.
If you think CA voters dont vote for insanity you havent lived there long or roamed around in the cities and talked to enough people.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:39am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:39am
HeadSet says
Okay. Let's say MAYBE I buy your point, they're only frauding on state-wide offices.
How do you explain the anemic Republican registration across the state?
Let's take LA County (the largest county by population in California).
5,608,308 TOTAL registered voters.
Democrat Registered: 3,000,541
Republican Registered: 959,894
Other (Green, Independent, etc): 1,647,873
By the stats above, even if ALL of the GOP voters, and "Other" voters, all cast ballots to get rid of Gavin Newsom during the recall (100% turnout), they still would fall 400,000 votes short of succeeding in ousting Newsom.
Only 17% of LA County is registered Republican (it's even worse in the SF Metro area), that's just a math problem that conservatives cannot overcome in California.
Now, I do think ballot harvesting, and bad voter rolls do have "some" effect on these elections, but it's not 20-30% of the vote. Even if I give you 10%, it's not enough to overcome the sheer amount of Demon-Rats registered in the state.
Goran_K says
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
They save the fraud for the statewide (Governor and President, maybe Senate) positions. Statewide fraud allows one to pick the best precincts to manipulate. Not as much opportunity with smaller district elections.
Okay. Let's say MAYBE I buy your point, they're only frauding on state-wide offices.
How do you explain the anemic Republican registration across the state?
Let's take LA County (the largest county by population in California).
5,608,308 TOTAL registered voters.
Democrat Registered: 3,000,541
Republican Registered: 959,894
Other (Green, Independent, etc): 1,647,873
By the stats above, even if ALL of the GOP voters, and "Other" voters, all cast ballots to get rid of Gavin Newsom during the recall (100% turnout), they still would fall 400,000 votes short of succeeding in ousting Newsom.
Only 17% of LA County is registered Republican (it's even worse in the SF Metro area), that's just a math problem that conservatives cannot overcome in California.
Now, I do think ballot harvesting, and bad voter rolls do have "some" effect on these elections, but it's not 20-30% of the vote. Even if I give you 10%, it's not enough to overcome the sheer amount of Demon-Rats registered in the state.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:41am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:41am
RC2006 says
Exactly my point.
I feel like some of the people here have only lived in California since Newsom took office. The entirety of the education system, all the big state unions, are 90% Democrat owned. They outspend Republican candidates literally 10 to 1 in the state. Just the fact that 4 Republicans were able to flip seats last election was a welcome minor miracle.
California is full of parasites. They do vote for crazy left/commie shit. I cant even count how many Ive talked to and couldnt even comprehend how stupid and illogical thier thought process worked. They live in an alternate reality and any attempt to change that causes them to rage.
If you think CA voters dont vote for insanity you havent lived there long or roamed around in the cities and talked to enough people.
Exactly my point.
I feel like some of the people here have only lived in California since Newsom took office. The entirety of the education system, all the big state unions, are 90% Democrat owned. They outspend Republican candidates literally 10 to 1 in the state. Just the fact that 4 Republicans were able to flip seats last election was a welcome minor miracle.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 15, 8:23am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 15, 8:23am
Goran_K says
I would refer you back to my time tested saying, there are no Republicans or Democrats, only scum.. err politicians. Did those four seats improve the situation in California for the average citizen in any meaningful way?
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
I would refer you back to my time tested saying, there are no Republicans or Democrats, only scum.. err politicians. Did those four seats improve the situation in California for the average citizen in any meaningful way?
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 9:11am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 9:11am
NuttBoxer says
I don't think anyone here actually likes politicians or thinks that they do meaningful work for the people (though I did make a lot of money during the Trump days, like doubled my net worth).
But that's besides the point. If what you're saying is true, that BLUE somehow rigs the elections in California, then why would they let RED take 4 seats, especially with how razor thin house control was in 2022? Doesn't make sense.
Just admit that California conservatives are literally outnumbered 3 to 1, then it starts to make sense. California is the deepest blue state in the country.
Goran_K says
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
I would refer you back to my time tested saying, there are no Republicans or Democrats, only scum.. err politicians. Did those four seats improve the situation in California for the average citizen in any meaningful way?
I don't think anyone here actually likes politicians or thinks that they do meaningful work for the people (though I did make a lot of money during the Trump days, like doubled my net worth).
But that's besides the point. If what you're saying is true, that BLUE somehow rigs the elections in California, then why would they let RED take 4 seats, especially with how razor thin house control was in 2022? Doesn't make sense.
Just admit that California conservatives are literally outnumbered 3 to 1, then it starts to make sense. California is the deepest blue state in the country.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 9:14am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 9:14am
Goran_K says
He will do even better and more effective. Wealth tax coming for people who sell homes over $1,000,000 in value (New Jersey already has something like this in place), and flat "exit tax". These will be reality very soon.
California is the deepest blue state in the country.
He will do even better and more effective. Wealth tax coming for people who sell homes over $1,000,000 in value (New Jersey already has something like this in place), and flat "exit tax". These will be reality very soon.
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RC2006
2023 Nov 15, 11:16am
RC2006
2023 Nov 15, 11:16am
I'm kind of surprised there isn't some sort of daconian exit fine of some sort already for people and companies.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 15, 2:45pm
Ceffer
2023 Nov 15, 2:45pm
RC2006 says
I think there are in some forms. I think Cali pensioners now have to continue to pay Cali taxes, even if they move residence, but I'm not sure about that.
I'm kind of surprised there isn't some sort of daconian exit fine of some sort already for people and companies.
I think there are in some forms. I think Cali pensioners now have to continue to pay Cali taxes, even if they move residence, but I'm not sure about that.
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RWSGFY
2023 Nov 15, 3:42pm
RWSGFY
2023 Nov 15, 3:42pm
Ceffer says
It's bullshit. As in not true.
RC2006 says
I'm kind of surprised there isn't some sort of daconian exit fine of some sort already for people and companies.
I think there are in some forms. I think Cali pensioners now have to continue to pay Cali taxes, even if they move residence, but I'm not sure about that.
It's bullshit. As in not true.
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Nov 15, 5:09pm
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Nov 15, 5:09pm
Ceffer says
No. That hasn't been true since Congress passed a law in the 90s that outlawed it.
I think there are in some forms. I think Cali pensioners now have to continue to pay Cali taxes, even if they move residence, but I'm not sure about that.
No. That hasn't been true since Congress passed a law in the 90s that outlawed it.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 15, 5:29pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 15, 5:29pm
Goran_K says
Where I lived last in East San Diego county, it was the opposite. They want company men, no wildcards. That's why most of the Dem's voted to censure Tlaib. Examine the politics of those four seats, I bet they play ball.
Just admit that California conservatives are literally outnumbered 3 to 1, then it starts to make sense. California is the deepest blue state in the country.
Where I lived last in East San Diego county, it was the opposite. They want company men, no wildcards. That's why most of the Dem's voted to censure Tlaib. Examine the politics of those four seats, I bet they play ball.
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Nov 15, 5:31pm
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Nov 15, 5:31pm
PumpingRedheads says
Ceffer says
I think there are in some forms. I think Cali pensioners now have to continue to pay Cali taxes, even if they move residence, but I'm not sure about that.
No. That hasn't been true since Congress passed a law in the 90s that outlawed it.
Didn't stop Cali from trying anyway. A lot of court cases came about.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 16, 6:36am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 16, 6:36am
RC2006 says
It's coming. That $32 billion dollar deficit is already causing problems with the special interest groups in the state. Wait until it hits triple digits.
I'm kind of surprised there isn't some sort of daconian exit fine of some sort already for people and companies.
It's coming. That $32 billion dollar deficit is already causing problems with the special interest groups in the state. Wait until it hits triple digits.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 16, 6:40am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 16, 6:40am
Ceffer says
No taxation without representation!
But exit taxes don't have the same constitutional barriers. New Jersey is already doing an exit tax "light" as the state withholds either 8.97% of the profit or 2% gross of ANY home sale when you leave the state, but it's more of a prepayment of "owed" taxes and whatever is remaining after you've paid your New Jersey cut, you should get refunded during the next tax year.
I believe Los Angeles is already experimenting with a tax percentage cut of any home sale over $5,000,000.
California will eventually do it for the whole state, mark my words.
RC2006 says
I'm kind of surprised there isn't some sort of daconian exit fine of some sort already for people and companies.
I think there are in some forms. I think Cali pensioners now have to continue to pay Cali taxes, even if they move residence, but I'm not sure about that.
No taxation without representation!
But exit taxes don't have the same constitutional barriers. New Jersey is already doing an exit tax "light" as the state withholds either 8.97% of the profit or 2% gross of ANY home sale when you leave the state, but it's more of a prepayment of "owed" taxes and whatever is remaining after you've paid your New Jersey cut, you should get refunded during the next tax year.
I believe Los Angeles is already experimenting with a tax percentage cut of any home sale over $5,000,000.
California will eventually do it for the whole state, mark my words.
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I try to avoid going back to California for any reason but because I still have family in the state, I am sometimes forced to visit the Bay Area. But there will be gaps of like 2-3 years between visits.
So in October, I land in SFO to visit my sister. My sister and her kids are still in the Burlingame area. Before I take my rental car down south, I visit a friend for dinner in SF. As I'm driving into the city on 80 and about to exit into SOMA, I begin to notice things are looking a little shabbier than I remember. We meet at a place near Market Street, and I begin to notice something weird. There are literally no retail stores open on the block. Literally all "for lease signs" and most windows are boarded up. The streets are also extremely empty. it's eerie to see. Of course you see a few buses, the odd cracked out homeless person stumbling around, but general foot traffic seems very low compared to what I remembered of SF long ago. Especially during dinner time.
Now my friend is a bit "liberal", so I try not to get too deep into political discussions. Also, I don't keep up with California politics much anymore, except whenever Gavin Newsom tries to insert himself onto national TV with some ridiculous proclamation (like banning all gas powered cars by 2035). But I had to ask him, "Why does it seem every business is closed in downtown and where is everyone?"
He replies, "Well, in the middle of the week it's basically quiet, wait until the weekend it gets very crowded."
I kinda gave him a puzzled look, "It's quiet and empty in the middle of the WORK week in a major city?" I told him it's not like that in Houston, Dallas, or Austin (I currently reside in Texas). The middle of downtown SF just seems extremely sad. Empty, closed down businesses, and lots of cracked out homeless people just laying down in the cold streets. This looks worse than some third world countries I've visited in my life.
He kinda laughs, and says it's "different" in SF, and then changes the subject.
My question to y'all who still live near a major California city, or the Bay Area, have you guys noticed a change over the past 5+ years? I swear my mind must be playing tricks on me because SF wasn't this bad in my memory.