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komputodo says

Tenpoundbass says

Now if you can pinch an inch you're obese.

Now if you can pinch an inch you're OVERWEIGHT. If you can pinch an inch 3 inches, you are obese.

I really don't think most people realize how fat they are. I'm for sure overweight to a minor degree. I was down over the summer to lean/normal weight. 190 for 6'3". Back up to 210. Fuck. Whatever. You wouldn't call me fat if you saw me.

The people in the meme above are fat fucks. Obese to the 10th degree. You should have a neck. Your arms shouldn't be larger than my thighs. You shouldn't be red. Again, you should have a neck.

WookieMan says

I really don't think most people realize how fat they are.

I'm sure they don't because in 2023, fat is thin...normal is too skinny....and skinny is the eating disorder zone.

komputodo says

WookieMan says

I really don't think most people realize how fat they are.

I'm sure they don't because in 2023, fat is thin...normal is too skinny....and skinny is the eating disorder zone.

Random question after reading this comment. Who do you hang out with? Anyone, not just you komputodo. I find that all my friends are normal weight and slightly overweight. To be blunt I don't hang out with fat people. Anyone else do the same? I have one obese friend, but he's cut it back recently. I don't hang out with fat people. Fat chicks, even though I'm married are a no no. Never trust a fat chick.

https://twitter.com/MostlyPeacefull/status/1643422132448395264

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/calorie

Fundamental Flaw in the Calorie Concept: The narrative begins by challenging the food industry's claim that managing weight is simply about balancing calories - calories in versus calories out. This idea leads to a chain of assumptions: obesity is due to gluttony and sloth; it's the individual's fault; diet and exercise are the sole solutions; and any calorie can fit into a balanced diet. Lustig criticizes this viewpoint as overly simplistic and misleading, arguing that it shifts responsibility onto the consumer while absolving the food industry.

The Big Lie in Medicine: Lustig, with a background from Brooklyn, New York, vehemently argues that the equivalence of all calories is the biggest lie in medicine. This lie, he says, benefits the food industry as it diverts attention from the quality of calories to their quantity.

Evidence Against the Calorie Myth: Lustig offers evidence to debunk this myth by examining four different food items - almonds, protein, fats, and sugars (fructose and glucose).

Almonds: When one consumes 160 calories of almonds, only 130 are absorbed due to the fiber content. The fiber in almonds forms a barrier in the intestines, preventing the absorption of certain calories and sugars, thereby protecting the liver and reducing insulin response. The unabsorbed calories benefit the gut microbiome rather than the individual.

Protein: Protein, when not needed for muscle building, is metabolized by the liver. This process of converting protein to energy is inefficient compared to carbohydrates, resulting in fewer ATPs (energy molecules) produced per calorie.

Fats: The speaker contrasts omega-3 fatty acids (beneficial) with trans fats (harmful), both containing nine calories per gram. This stark difference in their health impacts illustrates that not all calories have the same effect on the body.

Fructose and Glucose: These two sugars, both with four calories per gram, have vastly different effects on the body. Glucose is described as essential, while fructose is labeled a toxin.

Implications for the Food Industry: Lustig suggests that acknowledging the truth about calories - that their source and nature matter - would significantly impact the food industry. It would challenge the industry's narrative and potentially lead to legal consequences.

Impact of Fiber on Sugar Absorption: The fiber in almonds, both soluble and insoluble, creates a barrier in the duodenum, which is the first part of the small intestine. This barrier inhibits the absorption of simple sugars like glucose, fructose, and sucrose. This process helps in maintaining liver health and preventing the liver from turning excess sugar into fat.

Gut Microbiome and Calorie Utilization: The unabsorbed calories from almonds, owing to their fiber content, pass further down the intestine to the jejunum, where they become available to the gut microbiome. The gut bacteria then utilize these calories for their own purposes. Lustig emphasizes that the human gut is home to a vast number of bacteria, which play a crucial role in overall health.

Fiber's Role in Metabolic Health: By influencing the absorption of calories and sugars, fiber plays a significant role in maintaining metabolic health. It prevents excessive insulin response by reducing serum glucose response, thus keeping insulin, which can drive chronic metabolic diseases, at lower levels.

The Misleading Nature of Calorie Counting: Lustig argues that the focus on calorie counting is misleading because it ignores the critical aspect of how different foods and their components, like fiber, are processed by the body. He emphasizes that it’s not just about the number of calories consumed but also about what the body does with these calories.

Calories in minus calories out still holds true,none of the above is contradicting this. It just means some foods have lesser net calories than others, similar to net carbs, depending on the absorption/work needed to absorb. Still you can intake glucose and fructose mainly all day and lose weight as long as you burn more calories than you took in. It's basic math and thermodynamics

Patrick says

Fundamental Flaw in the Calorie Concept: The narrative begins by challenging the food industry's claim that managing weight is simply about balancing calories - calories in versus calories out. This idea leads to a chain of assumptions: obesity is due to gluttony and sloth; it's the individual's fault; diet and exercise are the sole solutions; and any calorie can fit into a balanced diet. Lustig criticizes this viewpoint as overly simplistic and misleading, arguing that it shifts responsibility onto the consumer while absolving the food industry.

Really? Sounds to me like Lustig (ironic name) is looking to shift personal responsibility for one's weight from the fat guy to the food industry.

Perhaps as we get older, and eat a lot less, our gut microbiomes suffer, with attendant general health issues. All I know is that my body and my gut respond to fatty grass-fed beef. Whatever is in non-feedlot red meat works well with me.

Winter is hard up in the northeast, since we can't grill for almost 6 months of the year. Red meat consumption, as well as vitamin D from sunlight, decreases substantially. Perhaps increased consumption of nuts and tubers can pick up the slack and keep the gut well fed.

Fat Con in Seattle this weekend.

https://notthebee.com/article/this-lady-is-very-excited-for-the-body-positive-fat-con-in-seattle-this-weekend

https://babylonbee.com/news/chris-christie-suspends-campaign-to-spend-more-time-with-family-sized-12-piece-chicken-meal-from-kfc

Chris Christie Suspends Campaign To Spend More Time With Family-Sized 12-Piece Chicken Meal From KFC

stereotomy says

All I know is that my body and my gut respond to fatty grass-fed beef.

how does a steer get fatty by eating grass?

komputodo says

ow does a steer get fatty by eating grass?

Mice and bunnies that live in the grass.

"Even though the bulk of their diets is plant matter, herbivores like cattle will eat insects and raid nests for baby rabbits, birds, and rodents they find on the ground. They will also scavenge for meat and bones from predator kills for variety of reasons if the oppertunity [sic] presents itself."

I've read that cattle consume a lot of insects in the grass as well.

komputodo says

stereotomy says

All I know is that my body and my gut respond to fatty grass-fed beef.

how does a steer get fatty by eating grass?

A Cow, unlike a human, has four stomachs, the first two are devoted to fermentation of vegetable matter by symbiotic bacteria. The latter stomachs consume the bacteria. Bacteria, being animals, not plants, contain protein and fats.

You surely can't be as ignorant as your troll post, can you?

stereotomy says

You surely can't be as ignorant as your troll post, can you?

I guess I must be.

He's a Marine Biologist

Sometimes we spout off about something that's leagues out of our wheelhouses. I was being a dick, and I apologize, but why did you feel the need to troll with what you either knew was wrong, or have no clue?

mell says

He's a Marine Biologist

I specialize in big "fish" like whales😊

stereotomy says

You surely can't be as ignorant as your troll post, can you?

My mistake. I was under the impression that the term GRASS FED BEEF was really grass fed beef...then after a little research I found out that in the usa, grass fed beef means only that the first part of a steer's life they eat only grass and then during the last part, they load them up with fat inducing grains, corn and feed which creates the fat and marbling that people want.
True grass beef is very lean with almost no marbling. I have eaten real grass fed beef....It's not fatty and not marbled and not tender at all.
And I didn't even need to insult you.

Booger says

She's around 25. She'll be dead in around 15 years plus you can tell she's fully vaccinated.

Patrick says

Bingo. You need to let fat people know they’re fat. Sure suicide is a risk by doing that but they’re already doing that to themselves. Get your shit together or your gonna die early either way.

https://dailycaller.com/2024/02/07/finnish-airline-finnair-will-weigh-passengers-before-board-plane/

Finnish Airline Will Weigh Passengers Before Boarding Plane

Patrick says

Yup. It's not even diet. People eat too much even if it's "healthy" on paper. 200 years ago, the people that created us, didn't eat all day. The breakfast, lunch and dinner thing is bull shit. No one needs breakfast or lunch. "Oh I'll have a healthy salad for lunch." Get fucked. Get your work done and pound the food at the end of the day like our ancestors did.

I have had many conversations with a good friend, who is unarguably the fittest guy (my age) that I know, about the personal responsibility issue with 'fat fuckers' as he calls them. Of course you have to shove those calories in your mouth but I maintain that the food stocks of America are poisoned. It is a process that has accelerated throughout my lifetime. People didn't 'get weak' in 1980 and lose control of their consumption. The destruction of our health and vitality has been an extremely profitable process, sell them the chemical laden hyper-palatable 'food' and then charge them for a lifetime of 'health care'.

Lilly to build manufacturing capacity at risk to prepare for next-gen oral obesity drug.

https://endpts.com/in-bid-to-reassure-investors-lilly-says-it-will-build-manufacturing-capacity-at-risk-for-next-gen-obesity-drug/

Patrick says

This pisses me off more than anything. I buy swimwear and other clothing for the wife. 41 but still hot. I don't want to see bikinis and outfits on a land whale. I'll leave that site immediately.

I convert everyone on this topic once I explain it. I'm faithful, but I want to see something I'd fuck that my wife can wear. No interest in a land whale. This is the only genera that I boycott. Being fat is awful. I will close my tab immediately if you have a fucking heifer model posing in something. If you under 6' and not under 140lbs as a women you should just give up. I think that's what most do obviously.

80/20 rule. Most women are fat now. If you're single you're playing fat roulette. Also, always look at the mom. I've been direct with my wife that keep it in shape or you'll look like your mom. She's not awful, but out of shape for 65ish. Working out isn't hard.

Word.

mell says

Calories in minus calories out still holds true,none of the above is contradicting this. It just means some foods have lesser net calories than others, similar to net carbs, depending on the absorption/work needed to absorb. Still you can intake glucose and fructose mainly all day and lose weight as long as you burn more calories than you took in. It's basic math and thermodynamics

The error people make is why they are hungry. You can eat ice cream and drink soda all day, do this for a few days, and you'll find yourself starving for food. You know why? Because you don't have any nutrition. People are hungry because they aren't eating food, they are eating junkfood.

It's trivial to lose weight, just stop going out, don't buy anything in a box (except maybe noodles), and anything from the frozen section is just vegetables. Don't buy frozen patties, or french fries or whatever. If you want to MAKE them, go ahead. Any "quick meal" is just garbage, stop eating that shit.