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socal2 says

Reminder - here is a video that Hamas made PROUDLY showing how Hamas digs up water pipes that US taxpayers funded to build rockets.

That's right. And the whole time before and after the pipes were funded all you heard was "Waaaah, give us more unaccountable billions! The Zionists are keeping us thirsty!" while Gazan Women were shown to be the 3rd most obese on the planet out of 100+ countries/regions. Those Stats won't be allowed to be collected again, just like a Soros Mayor's Police don't arrest so the real crime numbers can't be known.

RWSGFY says

The only logical conclusion is that Ham Ass ARE Joos!

The Ultimate dirty Ziotrick! Aha!

Seriously, when Hamas is destroyed, all you'll hear from some people is "don't forget, Israel sponsored Hamas". No matter how many times you explain Israel supported Hamas when it was known for it's Charity and had no armed wing, to drive away support from Fatah and PFLP ... and that Iran backed Hamas for decades after it became a violent organization.

AmericanKulak says

That's right. And the whole time before and after the pipes were funded all you heard was "Waaaah, give us more unaccountable billions! The Zionists are keeping us thirsty!" while Gazan Women were shown to be the 3rd most obese on the planet.

By whom?

You're just claiming this. Show us.

Then you will get another lecture about Bush and Saddam and WMDs, which is why I just ignore. Kinda boring refuting the same charges, with links, etc. etc. OR rehearing points not in contention over and over again.

I actually can anticipate the arguments and just pop in a snark so I don't have to bother. I never give up the field to lose by default unless I'm bored beyond all exhaustion, which hasn't happened yet. Though I do take long breaks.

When you're dealing with postmodernists, they use a kind of attrition/guerilla warfare of endless pricks until they tire out their opponents.

Then there's a "Chomsky dodge."

"Well, while the MSM accuses PolPot of war crimes, and uh, I don't speak Cambodian so we have to rely on these often biased, heh, heh, heh, Press people... so let's look at the big picture in SE Asia. Laos, Prince Sukkawhattaever, Cambodia, Thailand based bombers, boo hoo. US bad here, US bad there, US bad little factoid over there. Chomsky never attempts to find reasons to why the US reacted or prepared for an action, only that it did so.

The reader/listener is wowed by Chomsky's breadth of coverage over the span of many pages and minutes, and his knowledge of any and all the US' misteps, accidents, or bad decisions that are trotted out, but the reader or listener forgets that Chomsky never refuted or advanced the original point of contention.

AmericanKulak says

Then you will get another lecture about Bush and Saddam and WMDs,

If it's connected.

Why do you just believe bullshit of our government and media still? The reason I keep going back to WMDs is to show how fucking STUPID people are to just blindly believe. You're still doing it, 20 years later. Can you learn from past mistakes? Do you just believe any bullshit of our government STILL, or the Israeli government, STILL? It appears so.

What on Earth does it take to get you to think? Is it possible? All you need to hear from somebody, you can't even tell who, something that confirms your confirmation bias, and you run with it. You don't even slightly care if it's true or not.

AmericanKulak says

I actually can anticipate the arguments and just pop in a snark so I don't have to bother.

Of course you can, this is because I'm consistent.

I really want to know if you can actually think. I only know you through a computer, and it's impossible at this point to tell if you're a propagandist, or if you really can't think.

AmericanKulak says

Well, while the MSM accuses PolPot of war crimes, and uh, I don't speak Cambodian

Look, Vietnam we went full in because our government lied about the Gulf of Tonkin Incident that never happened. We wouldn't have gone into Vietnam if they didn't lie to the public. I have no problem with a war, some wars are worth fighting, but no war where we have to be lied and tricked into supporting that war is worth fighting.

Gulf of Tonkin is 60 years ago. Have you learned nothing in your entire complete life?

AmericanKulak says

The reader/listener is wowed by Chomsky's breadth of coverage over the span of many pages and minutes

I don't care about Chomsky. I'm fascinated that even when I explain the magic trick of the propaganda, you still get fooled by it again. It's inconceivable to me. Either you genuinely can't see it, or you pretend not to see it. If it's the first case, that's severe mental debilitation to me, if it's the second case, it's severely immoral to help continue to deceive the public for the interests of a bunch of murderers. I don't see any other options.

I can write you off as just being entirely morally bankrupt. Maybe you are.

AmericanKulak says

Then you will get another lecture about Bush and Saddam and WMDs, which is why I just ignore. Kinda boring refuting the same charges, with links, etc. etc. OR rehearing points not in contention over and over again.

Bingo. Rich knows more than us and he knows all media, so even when a link is accurate, it's wrong and somehow goes back to Iraq which was a policing operation and not a war. Here's a link Rich. We lost as many cops as troops as a country over the same time in Iraq AND Afghanistan. Then throw in just Chicago citizens. https://nleomf.org/memorial/facts-figures/officer-fatality-data/officer-deaths-by-year/ Is the US at war?

Most of the deaths in both nations was self inflicted amongst islamic sects. It wasn't the US or coalition mowing Muslims down. Sunni and Shia ring a bell? I'm sure you're authentic library of bull shit has all that information. You need to get on meds my friend. Was us going there right, I actually don't know. Fun part is you actually don't know but pretend to and regurgitate the same line over and over with this now fictitious library of made up facts.

Enjoy your Monday night of bull shitting on Patnet. We're all getting used to it at this point. No one takes you seriously FYI.

WookieMan says

Bingo. Rich knows more than us and he knows all media, so even when a link is accurate

Show me a post where YOU posted a link after I asked for it.

WookieMan says

Most of the deaths in both nations was self inflicted amongst islamic sects.

Yeah, after the US destabilized it, erased the people keeping each faction at bay. SOMEHOW you think that means the US is blameless to you, even though they lied to you, and you're not at all troubled with the GOVERNMENT lies to you. That's fine.

What upsets you is when I point it out.

WookieMan says

authentic library of bull shit

Yep. That’s what those who promote the false narrative of Zionist terrorism are peddling.

PeopleUnited says

WookieMan says

authentic library of bull shit

Yep. That’s what those who promote the false narrative of Zionist terrorism are peddling.

Like the Lavon Affair? THAT false terrorism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

How about this - IDF executing two men waving flags and surrendering:


original link


You're happy in your ignorance and you're delighted to spread it on, like a disease. You're the intellectual equivalent to a bug chaser in the homosexual community.

We are at the pinnacle of information today, it's never been easier ever in all of history to know what is going on. We all have enough access to information that we can, for example, determine the United States overthrew Ukraine - we don't need to wait 30 years later to have the NYTimes pull an FOIA request to find out that we overthrew Iran in 1954, 50 years later where everybody involved is dead, nobody can possibly be held accountable, decades after we repeated the same "mistake" over and over again, which we could have avoided if we studied the coup and why it wasn't a good idea.

Just 20 years ago, that's where we were, and in order to know this information, you'd have to hear about the article, you'd have to go the library's newspaper morgue, you'd have to find it on microfiche usually, then make hard copies. It was doable, but it was real work.

30 years ago, I just thought people lacked information. They are astringently ignorant, on purpose, and they spread their ignorance, purposely. They won't do an OUNCE of thinking. I have a friend who I have explained 4 times that the US overthrew Ukraine, he still doesn't believe me.

If people just waste this tiny time, the internet is going to be censored, we already gave up any semblance of a press, and all people will know is what a few overlords will tell them, and they aren't going to tell them to the truth. If you think 1984 is some crazy dystopian society that can never happen, we're only 10 years away from it - all the technology and FAR MORE is here now.

You're not going to need a Ministry of Truth, it will just be a bunch of AIs. They aren't going to come to burn our books either, they're going to come to destroy data. We have safeguards against this, but you won't use them. I'm aberration, I'm not a natural slave like most people are.

I can understand why the ruling class has such contempt for "normal people". I'm starting to see their view and it's terrifying. They don't see you as human at all, they see you as animals to exploit.

richwicks says

I can understand why the ruling class has such contempt for "normal people". I'm starting to see their view and it's terrifying. They don't see you as human at all, they see you as animals to exploit.

You are exactly right, but that is the nature of humanity. Only a few people are leaders, the rest are natural followers. If a noob politician goes to Washington with the intend to work for the people, he soon finds that the very people he is trying to help will not back him up. Then he sees his fellow politicos get rich through bribes. Soon he himself realizes that if he tries to fix the corruption, he will be a target not just from the crooks in office but from the electorate as well. He then learns to go along to get along, including telling lies that his constituents are eager to hear. Of course, one develops contempt for the people he lies to, both for forcing him to lie and for believing these lies.

The solution is term limits and having eligible voters limited to citizens who are net tax payers.

HeadSet says

Soon he himself realizes that if he tries to fix the corruption, he will be a target not just from the crooks in office but from the electorate as well. He then learns to go along to get along, including telling lies that his constituents are eager to hear.

I know Rich will shit on this comment. Go meet them. Have a discussion with your House Rep. State or Federal. That was the purpose of the position in our government. Someone accessible. No one does it. They just bitch and whine.

People get hung up on the executive branch of government. Most change you'll ever make is with House members. Biden is a dip shit. Guess what? CA has the most house members in the country. Until you cats out there get that you are the ones fucking up the country, I'm not sure what else to say. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_representatives_from_California#:~:text=5%20References-,Current%20members,40%20Democrats%20and%2011%20Republicans.

9.2% of the house is Democrat elected officials. Nation wide. From ONLY California. You guys run the country with the help from IL and NY. If you want change, you guys need to change CA. Until then I don't want to hear or see the crocodile tears about government. No one is doing shit. I am in IL as best I can. Bitching and fixing it ain't the same thing. It is fixable.

The compassion the Zionists have for the people they didn't manage to kill on October 7th is really moving...
https://nypost.com/2024/04/16/world-news/nearly-50-attendees-of-israels-nova-festival-died-by-suicide-since-oct-7-hamas-terrorist-attack-survivor-says/

Zionists use their US bitch's to gain footholds in Africa, spreading chaos in Sudan. Trigger warning for Trump supporters...
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/us-israeli-hand-sudan-civil-war/

https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-created-new-standard-urban-warfare-why-will-no-one-admit-it-opinion-1883286

“...all available evidence shows that Israel has followed the laws of war, legal obligations, best practices in civilian harm mitigation and still found a way to reduce civilian casualties to historically low levels.”

PeopleUnited says

https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-created-new-standard-urban-warfare-why-will-no-one-admit-it-opinion-1883286

“...all available evidence shows that Israel has followed the laws of war, legal obligations, best practices in civilian harm mitigation and still found a way to reduce civilian casualties to historically low levels.”

You're reading propaganda on Newsweek.

There ARE NO JOURNALISTS in US media. It's just a fucking propagandist you are referencing. When will people stop falling for this stupid shit?

Israel was found "likely to be committing genocide" by the International Court of Justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_v.Israel(Genocide_Convention)

You will never, ever, find that in the news. Just "isn't Israel wonderful???" - no, they fucking aren't. more than 1% of the entire population of Gaza has been killed by Israel. At least 40,000 out of 2 million are dead. Israel just murdered a bunch of bunch of people from World Central Kitchen which is non profit charity that was delivering food. They didn't just hit one car, it was 3. WCK told the IDF what they were doing, got clearance from the IDF, gave them their route and plan, and went out in 3 vehicles. 1 was attacked, I think everybody survived, they contacted the IDF and asked them what the hell was going on, and moved the people from the attacked car to the remaining two, another bomb hit them, and then they all piled in, and then that vehicle was destroyed.

Everybody was killed.

If our media was at all honest, you'd know this.

I know what it's like to live in 1930's Germany where everything about me is fucking propaganda, and nobody else does. It's a nightmare. You people are convinced to support the most evil fucking shit imaginable, because you don't know. It's a responsibility to know what is going on and nobody but a handful of people do it, and it's hard to fucking deal with it. Thank god I know a FEW people who do know what is going on, but even they have trouble dealing with the load. It's so goddamned depressing. We have overlaps and deficits in knowledge, and it's just a fucking burden. We talk to one another to keep each other sane, but at times, we just withdraw. You have no idea how evil the world is and what you're tricked into supporting.

When Israel collapses, and all nations eventually do, we are going to be looked upon in the same fucking way that we currently look upon Nazi Germany. If only people would pay some fucking attention we could have avoided it, but they won't. We gave you the most powerful communication and research tool EVER made by mankind, you can talk to anybody on the planet, and you won't won't use it. Wasted my life on this shit.

Cuz you know you're on the right side when you hire undercover protestors to disrupt events and spy on people...

🚨 BREAKING: Operation Global Insight—NO MORE WORDS 🚨

👉 Join the Shirion Collective’s first undercover operation—become an agent embedded behind “enemy” lines at this weekend’s “protests”.

Marking our first global operation that combines the efforts of volunteers and our more… pic.twitter.com/DTOLCT12e1

— Shirion Collective (@ShirionOrg) February 13, 2024

richwicks says

PeopleUnited says

https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-created-new-standard-urban-warfare-why-will-no-one-admit-it-opinion-1883286

“...all available evidence shows that Israel has followed the laws of war, legal obligations, best practices in civilian harm mitigation and still found a way to reduce civilian casualties to historically low levels.”

You're reading propaganda on Newsweek.

There ARE NO JOURNALISTS in US media. It's just a fucking propagandist you are referencing. When will people stop falling for this stupid shit?

Israel was found "likely to be committing genocide" by the International Court of Justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_v.Israel(Genocide_Convention)

I don't have a disagreement with People United. This is what I talk about with you Rich. He posted a link and you then proceed to post a wiki link??? Seriously? Wiki is pure trash. Retards can edit pages and it wouldn't get checked at all.

I could change the "gorilla" page that they're niggers and it would be up there. Not defending Newsweek, but you can't get on people about links and then post a wikipedia link.

WookieMan says

Wiki is pure trash.

I don't disagree. I've vetted it. You won't read the court case, I reference Wikipedia to hope you will read the summary.

I'm telling you our nation is walking down a dark path. Israel is just like south Africa, but it's more brutal.

Our nation is inviting reciprocation, which our media will dismiss as simply terrorism. Imagine if you knew somebody killed by an occupying force, that is the position Gazans are in. You are capable of empathy.

This is a terrible error of my nation.

NuttBoxer says

Cuz you know you're on the right side when you hire undercover protestors to disrupt events and spy on people...

Yeah, because James O'Keefe hasn't been super effective pulling shit like setting up fake dates to own the Left.

NuttBoxer says

Zionists use their US bitch's to gain footholds in Africa, spreading chaos in Sudan. Trigger warning for Trump supporters...
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/us-israeli-hand-sudan-civil-war/

Perfect example of the "Indah Pedantic Journalist" cover for Foreign propaganda. On the About Us page, you'll see most of the "Journalists" affiliates of MintPress News, Mondoweiss, and other Foreign and Far Left front outfits. All of the sites they share mutual afilliations with have a narrow focus and editorial take - US BAD, Israel BAD.

You'll see almost everything on the site - go look at the articles under "The Economy", for example - feature almost nothing BUT anti-Israel stuff, except for the occasional whinge about US Foreign Policy generally.

Nothing about Taiwan-CCP negotiations, mating muttonbirds in Mongolia, the price of eggs in East Bumville.

The Ryan Christan guy brags about winning an award - symbolized by a Woman with a Pen as if carrying an shoulder strap RPG. Serena Shim was an Shi'a Muslim born in Dearborn, MI and an employee of Iranian State Media, good old PressTV. She was accused by Turkey of being a Spy while covering the Syrian Civil war, and died in a car accident just over the border in Turkey. Naturally, all the leftoids and Iranians accused Turkey of killing her and they denied it and who the fuck knows or cares. Although it seems it really was a car accident and both the other truck and Shim's driver say it was an accident.

The Award named for her was given to such luminaries as George Galloway, twice arrested, once convicted sex offender now RT-reporter Scott Ritter, Maduro's News Front Venezuela Analysis, and all the usual suspects like Moon of Alabama and so forth.
https://serenashimaward.org/laureates/

Oh, and I can hear it now. "That Scott Ritter got entrapped twice ... he's brilliant and one has nothing to do with the other. When Bush... "

Consider this: Think about how astute the analysis is, of a guy charged once - even if he dindu nothing and it was entrapment - to go BACK on sexy chat sites instead of giving them up permanently lest he 'expose' (heh) himself a second time. Really great judgement and threat analysis skills, right?

Maybe Iran or Russia has Kompromat of many more times he did so than US authorites know about - maybe worse stuff, and are compelling his cooperation, hmmm?

Nah, can't be. Mother Russia, Iran, or to be fair, any Intel Agency would never, ever hold shameful or criminal things over somebody's head. Never happens. Only the Mossad does that.

Cuz you know you're on the right side when you're training snipers on protesters...

Obviously this IDF solider is a liar, we can only believe Western media and armchair Americans who can't find Israel on a map:

New Interview with an anonymous IDF soldier who recently finished his service in Gaza.

“Do you think you witnessed war crimes taking place? “

“Probably. Probably. The grand assumption is that they are Hamas and if you go this way you’re bound to kill people who are not.”

We… pic.twitter.com/eAN9bKjmhl

— Assaf, MD (@SohiubN) April 23, 2024

https://youtu.be/Aa-VDAjL8vM

Even UN saying it's genocide..
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976

History if Zionists and Palestine started on October 7th right?

If you think the war started because of October 7, review the 17 years of siege

For 17 yrs And more:
🤔Can the people of Gaza bring in food without restrictions from Israel⁉️

🤔 Can the people of Gaza enter and leave the Strip without restrictions from Israel ⁉️ pic.twitter.com/FaoNPUY97I

— Badar Al Amri (@oman_portal) April 7, 2024

NuttBoxer says

Even UN saying

🤡

IDF targets families with the help of WhatsApp:

Whatsapp leaked Palestinians' information to the Israeli army. If a Palestinian family is at home, information is leaked to the Israeli army and they target the house where the family lives.
Its Shamefull act. pic.twitter.com/mSiu8eXdNO

— Muhammad Minhaj Abbasi (@MinhajAbbasi3) April 23, 2024

RWSGFY says

NuttBoxer says

Even UN saying

🤡

Exactly, it's that blatant that even NWO organization full of pedophiles are recognizing it, yet NeoCons continue to cry "anti-semite". Only in clown world...

If the Jews don't agree with Israel, why do you..?

“ When you grow up in Israel, the entire education system is priming you to become part of a national project of erasure and dispossession”

That’s Zionism in 15 seconds

The remarkable, Eyal Weizman pic.twitter.com/f3QP8FKXSm

— Abier (@abierkhatib) April 24, 2024

Holocaust update:

BREAKING: Israel has now killed 15,780 Palestinian children in Gaza, in just 200 days.

That’s 79 children killed per day, every single day, for nearly 7 months straight.

Read that again. pic.twitter.com/27ekYvHsj2

— sarah (@sahouraxo) April 24, 2024

Israeli analyst? More like anti-Semite, right? Isn't that what pro-Zionists do.. call Jews anti-semites?

“Mass grave at Gaza hospital” https://t.co/8oMN9AjweY

— Mairav Zonszein מרב זונשיין (@MairavZ) April 23, 2024

I have LOTS more I could post, but that's enough evidence of American's support for the holocaust for today.

NuttBoxer says

Holocaust update:

BREAKING: Israel has now killed 15,780 Palestinian children in Gaza, in just 200 days.

That’s 79 children killed per day, every single day, for nearly 7 months straight.

Read that again. pic.twitter.com/27ekYvHsj2

— sarah (sahouraxo) April 24, 2024

Great, but you missed the part about at least 5 times breeding to this numbers.

Gonna label this the ZDS thread. Behavior of the antisemites is exactly like TDS patients.

Come back to reality before it is too late!

Blue says

Great, but you missed the part about at least 5 times breeding to this numbers.

Sorry, gonna need a more complete sentence here..

Best idea of the week. America directly benefits by helping Israel here.

AmericanKulak says

Best idea of the week. America directly benefits by helping Israel here.

Ham-ass will decline.

And if Israel left the rotting corpses of the 200+ Hamas militiamen in around their bunker complex in Shifa, the exact area they've been fighting in the past week, lay in the street, ISRAHELL would be guilty of defacing the dead and endangering Gazan's health.

NuttBoxer says

RWSGFY says

NuttBoxer says

Even UN saying

🤡

Exactly, it's that blatant that even NWO organization full of pedophiles are recognizing it, yet NeoCons continue to cry "anti-semite". Only in clown world...

No, silly, the UN has been on the whole "Pali" scam for decades, milking it to the max. They'd hate for the whole thing to collapse.

Very interested in how UN is benefiting, other than the obvious child-trafficking always made easier in conflict zones.

RWSGFY says

AmericanKulak says

Best idea of the week. America directly benefits by helping Israel here.

Ham-ass will decline.

I count 1 US flag to 3 Zionist flags in that picture. Looks like Israel is once again telling America how to think. And is that Bob Dole?

NuttBoxer says

I count 1 US flag to 3 Zionist flags in that picture. Looks like Israel is once again telling America how to think. And is that Bob Dole?

I have a USVI donkey flag on my golf cart and not an American flag. Who cares?

You're way too caught up in this conflict. Both sides are awful. You're picking the lesser of two evils in your opinion which is fine. As an American I can respect your disgust with funding Israel. We have no business on that side of the planet anyway with our own issues. Neither country/territory provides a single thing for us as Americans. We shouldn't be sending aid of any kind to Israel or Gaza.

At some point this is a battle to the death. We just shouldn't be involved. This never gets resolved without one side completely killing the other side. Sad. But reality. Ain't religion and politics fun....