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The TDS isn't as strong this time around. The bread and butter issues are coming home to roost and even reflexive Blue State libs cooling to Xiden. Whereas elements of the Dem Base, esp. Blacks, are getting turned off by the wave of illegals stealing what they think should be their attention and taxdollars.

Rumor is some sizeable RNC Donors - not the biggest ones but many of the secondary tier donors - are royally pissed at Ronna McRomney for blowing cash on floral arrangements and limo rides.

I think some Old Fart GOP Taxcuts, Military Contracts, Cheap Labor and Money, and Give-In On Everything Else types are slowly realizing it has to be Trump, if just to make sure there aren't more leftist nutcases appointed when the Recession hits this year in full.

socal2 says

. Look at what Trump is ALREADY doing with Disney, Bud Light and saying nice things about Gavin and Hillary. He needs every donor and ally he can get.

You do know politics, right? Desantis would do the same. He licked his wounds and got out unlike Haley. Wise decision. It wasn't Desantis time right now. He saved his political future. Which is what we need. Trump is the most logical even though I know you don't like it. Cheating won't be an option this time. There will be nut head right wingers sitting there watching the ballots.

The key being they come out in urban vicinities/polling places and take action. It's going to be a fun November either way and shitty 2024 as a whole.

WookieMan says

You do know politics, right? Desantis would do the same.

But DeSantis didn't do the same thing when given the opportunity.

DeSantis stood up to Trump and the woke LGBTQ mafia when all of the country club Rinos and MAGA grifters were all saying that DeSantis was going to get walloped by Disney.

DeSantis also stood up to Trump and Fauci during the Covid debacle.

WookieMan says

Cheating won't be an option this time. There will be nut head right wingers sitting there watching the ballots.

Someone tell all the Trump supporters online and here at Patnet. Many have already been making excuses about it being impossible to win elections if/when Trump turns into a 2 time loser against Biden or whoever the Democrats run in November.

socal2 says

Someone tell all the Trump supporters online and here at Patnet. Many have already been making excuses about it being impossible to win elections if/when Trump turns into a 2 time loser against Biden or whoever the Democrats run in November.

The same cheat that would defeat Trump would be used on DeSantis. As I have mentioned before, I predict the mechanism will be to "dominion" enough actual votes for Trump/Desantis over to RFK so that Biden wins in a plurality. Even then they will have to manufacture votes for Biden to get him to 40% or so.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/tone-deaf-talking-points

you can blame fauci and birx and the NIH and CDC if you like, but in the end, the buck stopped on one desk.

teflon don.

it was his watch and he cheer led for this. he was not reluctant. he was crowing.




nor did he support “leaving it to the states.”




he is not repentant. he still claims this was a success and plays “the hero” for having sold us down the river and upended our lives and livelihoods. he brags about it. ...

there’s no question that biden made it far worse, impeded recovery, and engaged in all new manner of assaults on liberty, but like FDR after hoover, he was not the one who got the ball rolling, he just accelerated one already on the move.

these choices killed an incredible number of people.

Patrick says

he is not repentant. he still claims this was a success and plays “the hero” for having sold us down the river and upended our lives and livelihoods. he brags about it. ...

And Trump was too cowardly to debate people like DeSantis during the primaries because he knows he would have gotten his clock cleaned on the COVID debate. Same deal with Trump helping to empty our prisons creating the massive crime wave we have seen in recent years.

But never worry, the MAGA online grifters are more than happy to change their tune on COVID to defend Trump just like they all turned on a dime to defend Bud Light, Disney and Tik Tok.........

Whatever is in Trump's financial or personal interests will be the new "cause" for MAGA.

socal2 says

Whatever is in Trump's financial or personal interests will be the new "cause" for MAGA.

I don't know what Trump will do, but I know what anybody in either the establishment of the democratic or republican establishment will do, nothing for the country.


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At worst, Trump will be as bad as anybody else.

richwicks says

At worst, Trump will be as bad as anybody else.

I think DeSantis would have been much better based on the history of his actions and would not roll over (like Trump has repeatedly) on the important cultural issues.

But all the former online Liberals who are now MAGA grifters and influencers told us all that "Meatball Ron" was just another JEB! Global-homo who is bought and paid for by his big donors. So we were told we had to stick with a guy like Trump who supposedly couldn't be bought.

Well - that is clearly not the case.

Based on the actions of these two, I like DeSantis' donors much better than Trump's.

socal2 says

I think DeSantis would have been much better based on the history of his actions and would not roll over (like Trump has repeatedly) on the important cultural issues.

Trump would have steam rolled him. Vivek, some Indian American guy made him and others look like fools. He upended the entire RNC. I don't give a fuck about Disney and what Desantis supposedly did. Disney shot itself in the foot, they didn't need Ron's help doing it. So i'm confused by that logic.

To win you need national presence. Desantis is no different than Gavin Newsom. Neither could win the midwest, that's for sure. Neither could win swing states. Trump is already smashing Biden in the polling. Desantis will have his time potentially. Now is not it. Trump will win. Ron did the right thing and stepped out and saved face after Iowa. Nikki Haley was a dip shit. Her future is toast outside of being a commentator for some network.

Be happy he lost. He's not ready. Trump barely campaigned and torched everyone. Vivek is probably your biggest worry if you like Desantis.

socal2 says

richwicks says

At worst, Trump will be as bad as anybody else.

I think DeSantis would have been much better based on the history of his actions and would not roll over (like Trump has repeatedly) on the important cultural issues.

DeSantis is an ex JAG lawyer that worked at Guantanamo and helped cover up the torture program from that. No information was gained from that, it was just to set a precedent to torture Americans.

There ARE no important cultural issues. They are all fake. OK, so there's the MINOR inconvenience that you have to check a bathroom for your daughter or have your wife do it now, I bet you've never met a transgender before, I doubt your kids deal with the gay flags in the classroom either. That's the big "controversy" that's consuming the national debate. Like gay wedding cakes once did.

You see, if you turn off your FUCKING TV all this nonsense goes away. Destroy your television.

socal2 says

But all the former online Liberals who are now MAGA grifters and influencers told us all that "Meatball Ron" was just another JEB! Global-homo who is bought and paid for by his big donors.

They are most likely correct. Jeb Bush had a "humble foreign policy" BEFORE he was elected. Forget about that?


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He sounds reasonable! If he had actually done that, I would have probably not been impressed with him, but I wouldn't think the mother fucker should be hung from a lamp post, as he should be. That mother fucker put us on a 20 year course of endless war. I hope he burns in Hell.

socal2 says

So we were told we had to stick with a guy like Trump who supposedly couldn't be bought.

Well - that is clearly not the case.

Based on the actions of these two, I like DeSantis' donors much better than Trump's.

Look, at this point I'd vote for anybody on this board over any asshole the propaganda box has ever said anything nice about. There's people I STRONGLY disagree with here, but they couldn't be worse than another of the sociopathic assholes that have been made president in my adult lifetime except for Trump.

The most important thing is to change is foreign policy, that's what is destroying this country as we argue about trivial bullshit like if some asshole with balls can use the woman's bathroom, because they are like 0.001% of the population and this is worthy of your notice. You remember how you had all these Karen frauds claiming they knew LOTS OF PEOPLE that died of the Rona? They were full of shit, they were confusing what they saw on TeeeVeeee with actual life.

The REASON we have these BULLSHIT culture issues is just to get the dumb fucking cows and sheep arguing about something 99.99% of the country doesn't deal with, and really doesn't fucking care about. That was the "abortion issue". Roe v. Wade is done, what's changed about abortion? We stopped arguing about it. Doesn't matter what you THINK about it, because you don't really think about it at all, you FEEL about it and when emotion is involved, the brain leaves the door.

You know that stupid song "Won't Get Fooled Again" by the Who? I took that to heart about the Vietnam war. So far it's been Geneva, Desert Storm, Bosnia, Aghanistan, Iraq II, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and Ukraine, and it's ALWAYS been Israel, constantly Israel. Our most precious possession of unending headaches made by a mere 10 million assholes. But what about Gender Queer - the book? I have the book in electronic format, the dumb author posted it on their website page by page, and I scraped it. Want a copy? I got through a few pages, but trust me, no kid is going to read that, other than to turn to the page where you see a girl with a dildo strapped on getting a "blowjob" of her dildo.

We'll get fooled again, and again, and again, and again, and again, until the nation implodes.

WookieMan says

I don't give a fuck about Disney and what Desantis supposedly did.

Yeah - but politics is downstream from culture. If we don't have a Republican leader willing to call out the Leftist LGTBQ weirdos infesting our schools, corporations and now our military - what good are tax cuts?WookieMan says

Trump is already smashing Biden in the polling.

We are still counting on Biden being the nominee.

richwicks says

There ARE no important cultural issues. They are all fake. OK, so there's the MINOR inconvenience that you have to check a bathroom for your daughter or have your wife do it now, I bet you've never met a transgender before, I doubt your kids deal with the gay flags in the classroom either. That's the big "controversy" that's consuming the national debate. Like gay wedding cakes once did.

Wow - I personally think Cultural and Domestic issue are 1000X more important than foreign policy.

I am willing to bet that you are not married and have not raised any children. You also live in the Bay Area which is ground zero for this retardation.

My kids deal with Leftist indoctrination in their schools almost every single day. Each of my kids say they personally know at least 3 people in their grade that identify as transgender and are amazed they are allowed to use whatever bathrooms they want and allowed to compete in sports. We also let social media companies like Tik Tok totally propagandize our children into LGBTQ and Open Border Liberals and people like Trump are too busy collecting money from their big donors to even engage in this important battle.

There is nothing more important to the foundation of our civilization and CULTURE than stable marriages and 2 parent households to raise children. We let gays get "married" and continue to watch the institution of marriage get watered down where nearly 50% of new babies in the US are born to single mothers and guaranteed poverty. There is no government welfare system or afterschool program that can make up for millions of absent fathers. Yet here we are churning out new government dependents every single day because Trump and some MAGA republicans don't want to make icky Cultural criticisms.

socal2 says

Wow - I personally think Cultural and Domestic issue are 1000X more important than foreign policy.

That's the purpose of Cultural and Domestic issues. To keep you distracted on trivial issues. The actual issue is that our government is just a group of criminals that purposely create problems for the SOLE REASON that it's something you feel you have to worry about. That's why they don't enforce the border primarily, because it upsets people. That's why they promote this 2SLGBTQ+ bullshit. These are issues that they don't care about in ANY WAY, because it doesn't effect them AT ALL so they don't care if abortion is legal or not, they don't care if gay marriage happens, if a baker won't bake a cake for a gay wedding, as long as you are distracted, and you don't realize that all this shit ends if you just cut their damned heads off.

There's NO sincerity in their beliefs. Their power comes from making war. This is when they tax us, to make us poor, send it off to some god forsaken country and kill a bunch of people, and ALSO profit at the end of it so now they have an incentive to keep you distracted because they just murdered a bunch of people to make money, and you all are fighting over shit they don't even care about, and you shouldn't either.

socal2 says

I am willing to bet that you are not married and have not raised any children. You also live in the Bay Area which is ground zero for this retardation.

You're right.

socal2 says

My kids deal with Leftist indoctrination in their schools almost every single day. Each of my kids say they personally know at least 3 people in their grade that identify as transgender and are amazed they are allowed to use whatever bathrooms they want and allowed to compete in sports.

Well senators and congressmen don't send their kids to these shit school. What do your kids learn? Think, what did YOU learn in high school? The only thing I really got out of school was learning to read and write, math was also useful, but most of it wasn't. History was a joke, English was a joke. They were a complete waste of time.

All this shit will go away though once the country is bankrupt and can no longer get foreign nations to accept our toilet paper as "money" at the end of a gun.

socal2 says

There is nothing more important to the foundation of our civilization and CULTURE than stable marriages and 2 parent households to raise children. We let gays get "married"

Oh you'll get that when everybody is in poverty. Familial bonds are very strong in Mexico, Venezuela, Bosnia, Russia, Syria, Gaza... Poverty FORCES people to be interdependent on one another. You won't end up in an old age retirement home, because you won't be able to afford it, and you'll be able to die at home, that your children live in, because they could never move out.

socal2 says

and continue to watch the institution of marriage get watered down where nearly 50% of new babies in the US are born to single mothers and guaranteed poverty. There is no government welfare system or afterschool program that can make up for millions of absent fathers.

They aren't meant to help. They are meant to destroy.

What our government is doing is trying to get the public to BEG for more authoritarian rule to "stop the madness" - they are creating, except they won't.

socal2 says

Yet here we are churning out new government dependents every single day because Trump and some MAGA republicans don't want to make icky Cultural criticisms.

Look, the only time there is going to be change if it a bunch of politicians, and their "donors" are strung up from lamp posts at this point. Voting doesn't matter.

ANY power you cede to the government will be used against you. Education was. Now people are clamoring for TikTok to be censored. Isn't it weird there's no device on the market that is locked down and strictly limits your kids to only sites you approve of, or there's no organization that vets sites? Isn't it odd that although we've had email encryption for 3 decades, email is still sent in the clear? I wonder why. I wonder if the entire population isn't under surveillance and chaos is the desire.

It's trivial to make a device that is restricted to a set of websites, very easy. I can do that on any linux computer, I just remove the DNS service, and limit it to only the /etc/hosts file. I can do it in a few minutes. Easy to setup a system to be READ ONLY as well, so it can't be modified or jail broken.

socal2 says

Meanwhile, here is our presumptive nominee sounding no different than AOC or Adam Schiff and siding with the Disney pedos.

Maybe Trump knows something about DeSantis we don't?
Post was from a year ago.

socal2 says

Yeah - but politics is downstream from culture. If we don't have a Republican leader willing to call out the Leftist LGTBQ weirdos infesting our schools

Look, the government can force LGBTQ bullshit down people's throats, but companies can't. Dizzey is fucking toast.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Disney

A synonym for Pedophile or Groomer that cannot be banned on social media.
Don't be a Disney like Jeffery Epstein.

It's not companies that are pushing this shit, it's our government, and our government isn't the people we elected, it's BlackRock and Vanguard. Their president is the Federal Reserve.

Is there any candidate for president who does not openly fellate the sodomites and pedophiles for votes?

The_Deplorable says

socal2 says

"We will likely get uber-Rino chick VP's like Kristi Noem"

I am curious: Is there any strong evidence that shows Kristi Noem is a RINO?

she vetoed ban on trans in sports and schools. pretty girl, not a fighter.

i don’t believe that article patrick. it looks fake to me. i can’t verify it even. i tried, found nothing.

Patrick says

Who cares? Maybe they are competent.

I know Kamala Harris isn't, she just slept her way to the top. Rachael Levine isn't, he's just an obvious dude.

Did he hire them because they are gay or despite the fact they are gay? If you work for a company that has 20 applicants for a job, and the homosexual out of the group is clearly the most qualified and the best candidate, are you going to discriminate against him? That makes you a bad manager. Now if the gay man is the WORST candidate, that also makes you a bad manager if you hire him. DEI just kills companies, obviously.

richwicks says

Who cares? Maybe they are competent.

I know Kamala Harris isn't, she just slept her way to the top. Rachael Levine isn't, he's just an obvious dude.

Did he hire them because they are gay or despite the fact they are gay? If you work for a company that has 20 applicants for a job, and the homosexual out of the group is clearly the most qualified and the best candidate, are you going to discriminate against him? That makes you a bad manager. Now if the gay man is the WORST candidate, that also makes you a bad manager. DEI just kills companies, obviously.

Mostly agree. As long as people leave their sexual preferences at home and keep them private as heteros usually do and don't politicize them, if they're competent, hire them. I've met far more annoying straight alphabet "activists" than alphabet people.

mell says

Mostly agree. As long as people leave their sexual preferences at home and keep them private as heteros usually do and don't politicize them, if they're competent, hire them. I've met far more annoying straight alphabet "activists" than alphabet people.

The only goal we should have is to end discrimination. I also think I don't need to know what your sexuality is either. I don't need to know what fetishes you have, who you are fucking, what drugs you enjoy, what films you enjoy - not at work.

I don't much care for activism. When the goal is achieved, the activism isn't over. Some people clap their hands and say "my work is done", but many people just realize they have nothing else to do, so they work against their original goal to keep a job. That is the Reverend Al Sharpton. Gays can marry now, they can't be discriminated against in employment, mission accomplished - but bake me a cake, make a transgendered wedding cake, allow marriage between FIVE people.. BLM is the same grift.

Fraud is the biggest problem facing our society today. "White men are the most dangerous people in the United States" - fuck no they aren't. They're more dangerous than Asian, slightly. But our media promotes the lie, they promote only lies, and I am sick of people falling for the gift. I'm sick of it. What side is our media supporting? Whatever side that is, it's wrong. They want eyes and views, do you have The View, spreading complete nonsense to idiots who believe it, and you have to spend time dispelling the myth. How much time was wasted, how much money lost over this stupid pandemic?

It would all go away if people could ignore it, but people buy into it, repeat the stupidest nonsense, and even when it's pointed out to them, they continue to repeat the stupid nonsense. I put my first person on ignore a few days ago on this site, because it doesn't fucking matter what I do, he'll be a fucking moron forever repeating nonsense forever, he will never ever consider "maybe I shouldn't be spreading bullshit as if it's manure", it's not manure, it's toxic garbage.

Everybody is a fraud in the mainstream media, anybody other than a moron can recognize that, and there's a lot of morons, but when you finally figure that out and latch onto another fraud in the "independent media" and start spreading their toxic bullshit, and you can't convince them, it's just a slighter smarter moron isn't it? Won't listen to reason, won't reason, total waste of time. They finally took ONE STEP UP, and they are stuck at step #2. There's about 100 of those steps. Not certain, who knows where the top is. I know it's not at "Israel bad Palestinians gud" and it's not "Palestinians bad Israelis gud", nor is it "Republicans gud, Democrats bad".

That's EASILY 90% of the population and it's destroying me. I wouldn't mind if somebody explained to me "this is where you're wrong", they just call me stupid, crazy, paranoid, whatever - they won't address the argument. I am seriously having a problem seeing most people at sentient human beings now because I live in the fucking nightmare of propaganda, and this lucid dream isn't fun. You can control a lucid dream, well I can control this one too, but through cynical, evil, manipulation and it is evil. I have better morality than people that crow about their religion and the rapture - they are easy to control. Read the Bible, take it out of context start a megachurch. Wish I could be a sociopath.

https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/questions-for-trump-about-covid

Questions for Trump About Covid
Unfortunately, it seems no one will confront Trump on his administration's pandemic response. Yet many crucial questions remain unanswered.

I agree that Trump has major imperfections. His undying support for the vaccines is highly disappointing, but at least he's anti-vaxx-mandate and he seems to be pro-transparency in general, which is why he's so hated by the Establishment. I like DeSantis and would vote for him in a heartbeat, but Trump will be the nominee and I will hands-down vote for him assuming Biden is the opponent. I could vote for a third candidate but let's face it, that's literally throwing your vote away and we risk getting commie Xiden into office again. This is about the least of evils, and Trump is FAR LESS evil than Xiden.

mell says

richwicks says

Who cares? Maybe they are competent.

I know Kamala Harris isn't, she just slept her way to the top. Rachael Levine isn't, he's just an obvious dude.

Did he hire them because they are gay or despite the fact they are gay? If you work for a company that has 20 applicants for a job, and the homosexual out of the group is clearly the most qualified and the best candidate, are you going to discriminate against him? That makes you a bad manager. Now if the gay man is the WORST candidate, that also makes you a bad manager. DEI just kills companies, obviously.

Mostly agree. As long as people leave their sexual preferences at home and keep them private as heteros usually do and don't politicize them, if they're competent, hire them. I've met far more annoying straight alphabet "activists" than alphabet people.

It's about morality. You realize there are openly gay pastors and ministers in Christian churches now? That is what's called gaslighting or maybe there's a better word for it. But the purpose is the blur the lines of ALL THOUGHT.

GNL says

It's about morality. You realize there are openly gay pastors and ministers in Christian churches now? That is what's called gaslighting or maybe there's a better word for it. But the purpose is the blur the lines of ALL THOUGHT.

YEP!

And it's on both extremes. Many on the New Right are just SJW Identitarians, too.