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Public confidence in American universities has eroded because of liberal bias


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2018 Mar 17, 12:35pm   2,588 views  13 comments

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Public confidence in American universities has eroded in recent years, and campus administrators have taken notice, blaming not only the high cost of a 4-year degree but the impact of liberal bias in the academy, a new survey of college presidents finds.

“Asked to assess which of several factors were most responsible for declining public support, 98 percent of college and university presidents cited ‘concerns about college affordability and student debt’, 95 percent said ‘concerns over whether higher education prepares students for careers,’ and 86 percent cited the perception of liberal political bias,” reports an extensive new poll from Inside Higher Ed, an independent media company and industry source which tracks higher education.

“About a third of campus leaders agree with the statement that ‘the perception of colleges as places that are intolerant of conservative views is accurate.’ And 51 percent agree the 2016 election ‘exposed that academe is disconnected from much of American society’,” the poll analysis said.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/14/86-of-university-presidents-cite-negative-effects-/

It is certainly true that American universities censor public discussion of scientifically provable facts like the large and inherent behavioral differences between the races and the two genders. So it is quite rational to lose confidence in the objectivity of universities. And it is also true that conservatives are discriminated against in academia.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/6/liberal-professors-outnumber-conservatives-12-1/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200707/ten-politically-incorrect-truths-about-human-nature
https://www.quora.com/What-politically-incorrect-facts-do-you-know-that-even-you-are-uncomfortable-knowing-Back-it-up-with-scientific-literature

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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 17, 12:58pm  

The was Horowitz' last crusade; to get the old 60s era Free Speech Rules back in effect. He was opposed by Admins everywhere.

It's so easy just to limit speech.
2   Bd6r   2018 Mar 17, 1:10pm  

Patrick says
It is certainly true that American universities censor public discussion of scientifically provable facts like the large and inherent behavioral differences between the races and the two genders.


That is censored also in media, not only at Universities. Perhaps censorship at universities is secondary.

Patrick says
And it is also true that conservatives are discriminated against in academia.


As someone being in academia I can say that this is true, although in a slightly different way how people usually think. There are enough conservative engineers, physicists, chemists, etc, but they are typically much more concerned with their work and have little time for politics. They closet themselves in their labs and do not express political opinions for most (nothing good can come out of expressing those opinions - nothing will change and you might get blacklisted). In humanities left bias runs wild, and since they are the ones who have enough time on their hands to protest, give interviews, etc, they are the ones who are usually noticed.
3   Ceffer   2018 Mar 17, 1:28pm  

If I actually thought that my alma maters were admitting qualified citizen students for the right reasons rather than unqualified students (even illegals preferentially) for the wrong reasons, I might think more about contributing.

This, of course, does not imply condemnation of legitimate foreign exchange programs within reason.

Otherwise, it seems like enabling an insane gambling addict who just keeps losing their grubstake but comes crawling back for more. The obnoxious and incessant liberal, intolerant trumpeting doesn't help.

When you start viewing schools and universities as agenda oriented political rackets rather than austere and principled places of learning, the whole perspective changes.
4   Bd6r   2018 Mar 17, 1:40pm  

Ceffer says
genda oriented political rackets rather than austere and principled places of learning


Ultimate goal is to have as many administrators as possible pulling in as large salary as possible. Political racket is secondary and it is observed simply because it is easier for incompetent admins to spout political slogans than provide quality education.
5   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 17, 1:51pm  

And it's easier to ban controversial speakers than to deal with all the outrage and shennanigans. Or the backdoor method, charge them ridiculous fees for security.
6   theoakman   2018 Mar 17, 2:28pm  

drB6 says
Patrick says
It is certainly true that American universities censor public discussion of scientifically provable facts like the large and inherent behavioral differences between the races and the two genders.


That is censored also in media, not only at Universities. Perhaps censorship at universities is secondary.

Patrick says
And it is also true that conservatives are discriminated against in academia.


As someone being in academia I can say that this is true, although in a slightly different way how people usually think. There are enough conservative engineers, physicists, chemists, etc, but they are typically much more concerned with their work and have little time for politics. They closet themselves in their labs and do not express political opinions for most (nothing good can come out of expressing those opinions - nothing will change and you might g...


I learned pretty quickly in grad school that this was the case. John Stewart was the most popular show and the Engineers and Chemists I ate lunch with were nonstop complaining about right wingers. There were two people who were very conservative and they were not blacklisted as much as they were ridiculed. I learned that it's not acceptable to present your political views at the workplace, unless they lean left. Personally, I don't want to hear any political views at the workplace, even ones that align with my own.
7   mell   2018 Mar 17, 2:46pm  

I walked around in SF with MAGA gear for one day as a bet/dare. It was gut wrenching at times, I was constantly looking over my shoulder looking to throw a punch or two or watching people cussing and potentially scheming. The left has completely destroyed any public cohesion that once existed in western countries with their Nazi style methods (remember the Nazis were actually leftists/socialists). That's why there is the Gen Z backlash, these teens/twens are not blind. They grow up constantly worrying and fighting about words in an Orwellian climate. There will be more elections that swing to the right in the West I have no doubt about it. Now that doesn't mean that everyone with lefty views is a crook, some are decent people who have a right to their political opinions. But it means that - like with certain cultures/religions - there are too many of those who want to oppress other views by any means necessary, and thus they need to distance themselves from those methods or be complicit.
8   Patrick   2024 May 13, 9:35pm  

https://reason.com/2024/05/10/nearly-half-of-all-masters-degrees-arent-worth-getting/


Nearly Half of All Masters Degrees Aren't Worth Getting

According to new research, 23 percent of bachelor's degree programs and 43 percent of master's degree programs have a negative ROI.
9   WookieMan   2024 May 14, 4:34am  

Patrick says

https://reason.com/2024/05/10/nearly-half-of-all-masters-degrees-arent-worth-getting/



Nearly Half of All Masters Degrees Aren't Worth Getting

According to new research, 23 percent of bachelor's degree programs and 43 percent of master's degree programs have a negative ROI.


This is 100% true. The most successful people I know just graduated high school and got to working. Especially men. My uncle is the prime example. If he ever reads this site, I'm sorry, but he's not intelligent. He knows it I believe. He just worked and as he built his company had people do the smarts work for him. Mainly my aunt and then obviously attorneys and accountants. I still don't know if he actually finished high school. Weird topic to ask about.

Another of my dads friends built an oil company. Housing downturn hit and he had built up the cash to buy over half of a bank when prices were .25¢ He individually bailed them out. He's since passed, but that turned into I think about $200M. Finished high school, no college degree.

I can list tons of these guys I know from my childhood and adulthood. Tons of them were meat heads that just went to work and figured out business. Sure if you like STEM fields a degree makes sense, kind of. I think you learn more just doing the job. I never learn website and how to make them. Are they great, kind of, but no one taught me and I figured it out without knowing a lick of coding.

Fact is the wealthy have businesses, not jobs generally. The earlier you start one and not dick around in college, the better off you are.
10   Tenpoundbass   2024 May 14, 5:15am  

I've been thinking about that. What if the Left is intentionally driving the sane people out of Universities? So that the Universities will become an echo chamber of people who want to be programmed by the Left.
11   Tenpoundbass   2024 May 14, 5:17am  

This is why it's important for major companies and our entrepreneurs clarify now, that they wont hire graduates from these Universities.
Trump is going to need to take accreditation from those Universities and have the Canceled Professors and Administrators create new Universities.
The Ivy League schools are beyond repair.
12   Patrick   2024 Jul 21, 10:05am  

https://fiddlersgreene.substack.com/p/why-not-shoot-a-president


Presently, in America, the path to virtually all professional jobs involves spending tens of thousands of dollars, and years of one’s life, to attend institutions of higher learning that are effectively progressive seminaries. Today’s prestige universities not only require mandatory progressive political indoctrination for students but also compel their staff to write statements dedicating their research efforts to the ends of left-wing political projects as a condition of their employment and funding.

When every one of your future "thought leaders" is trained from youth to conform to the preferences of one side of the political spectrum, are we right to expect government institutions to be managed fairly between the contesting parties?
13   Patrick   2024 Oct 17, 9:33am  

https://librarianofcelaeno.substack.com/p/some-inside-notes-on-education


In the first place, historically speaking, a university education was the major rite of passage of upwardly mobile middle-class young men and assorted oddballs who just wanted a grounding in the liberal arts. Yes, there were aristocrats like Byron and peasant strivers like James Garfield, but for the most part it reflected and perpetuated a bourgeois culture of service to society by way of elevated mind and manners, perfect for the brighter sons of lawyers, farmers, and businessmen. That middle class has been wholly hollowed out by neoliberalism and its rapacious value-stripping, driving up profits in the short term while leaving behind the hollow husks of its victims. By all sorts of means (student loans, overpriced textbooks, research and patent deals, etc.) globohomo did to colleges what it did to radio stations. Women arrived en masse on college campuses for the same reason (and at the same time) they did in corporate offices, to create a large- and cheaper- pool of labor for big capital to draw upon.

In many ways the university is at the center of the great web of corporatized rent-seeking that is our modern economy, the result of an implicit conspiracy to concentrate credentialing within an untaxed oligarchy with close relationships with both government and the business world, ensuring (at least in theory) a steady stream of ‘customers’ needing to go into increasingly higher debt to purchase the right to work. It is considered perfectly sane in our world to borrow $200,000 for the privilege of employment at the bank that lent it to you. Of course, the very act of demanding credentials for everything increases the demand for them, but the greater volume thus generated fuels inflation that necessitates in turn a demand for further and more expensive certifications. ...

When economic demand made necessary an increase in the number of students in college there would inevitably be a huge uptick in women once the admissions office began creeping left along the bell curve. The only way to get more men would be to keep going until you hit that class generally considered destined for prison or journalism or group homes- the dregs of intellectual life- or else to become so selective once more that only the far right of the spectrum, where men predominate, is the norm once more, as Carter suggests.




College is no longer the preserve of men seeking the polish of liberal arts or the rigors of the hard sciences; so what has it become? In many ways, coinciding with the increased presence of women, it now fills the role once played by the defunct institution known as the finishing school. These female-oriented academies existed to provide middle-class women with the attitudes and social graces that would make them attractive partners for their presumably college-educated husbands. The difference now is that for the majority, the state is their husband, and they are less the wives of individual men than the fungible harem of absolutist managerialism. Once you understand that, the behavior of college-educated women voting hard blue on the grounds that not being able to murder their children in utero would interrupt their service at the office makes a great deal of sense. Till death do they part. ...

As an aside, if you find yourself in college looking for a wife, you could do a lot worse than an early childhood ed major. They tend to be outgoing, lively, agreeable, organized, and (at least in the South) quite attractive as a whole. They like kids and often possess a kind of manic energy that they direct into activities like decorating, dressing up, and assorted crafts that they will easily repurpose for family life. The downside is that they tend to be, well, a bit on the basic side- not especially intellectual, prone to groupthink (if they’re doing it on Instagram, she’ll be doing it shortly), and typically very common in their overall tastes and interests. But if you want a generally kindhearted mid who can pass a background check, the early childhood ed major is a fine option. As a bonus, once the kids are older she’ll get bored and want to go back to work, which generally means cheaper health plans and access to all kinds of mortgage benefits- so there’s that too, a small price to pay for having to make conversation about pumpkin spice and Taylor Swift for a few decades.

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