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2018 Dec 2, 2:56am   15,276 views  124 comments

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Looks like a bit of a mess right now.

Also looks like the Diverse "New French" Inhabitants of Paris are having a "Blast.
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I hear Macron is envious of Trump, with just a 25% approval rating

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91   mell   2024 Jul 7, 11:37am  

RN suddenly 3rd place from 1st. Left coalition projected to win though it will likely mostly be a lame duck govt due to all 3 coalitions having enough seats to block. We know there was a lot of candidate scheming and tactics going into this run off to prevent a win of the right, but these numbers make you go hmm, seen this before?
92   SoTex   2024 Jul 7, 11:53am  

I thought Le Pen had it in the bag?
93   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 7, 11:55am  

SoTex says


I thought Le Pen (Penn?) had it in the bag?

No, same as last time - the Neoliberal Globalists and the Far Left worked hand in hand to deny seats to LePen, in many races withdrawing candidates for the strongest of them in that area. So if the Socialists were strongest say in Lille, the Macron Globalist party withdrew and their supporters told to vote Socialist.

Part of the FarLeft-CorporateSocialist alliance.

HOWEVER, even with the chicanery, Le Pen's party has enough strength to block any measures they don't like, so this is a victory.

In Europe, the boomers of the spirit of 68 there are militant about maintaining their pensions, no matter how much the young people suffer, and the Left/Globalist parties milk this fear to prevent reform.
94   mell   2024 Jul 7, 11:56am  

SoTex says

I thought Le Pen had it in the bag?

Not in the bag, but should have come out 2nd at least
95   SoTex   2024 Jul 7, 11:57am  

Lame.
96   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 7, 12:04pm  

Don't let the Media fool you - LePen is picking up a dramatic number of seats.

Macron got clobbered, 2nd place. The Far Left is an unstable coalition of Left, Ultra Left, Greens, etc.

I think the absolute must is to get rid of the RINO/fake Liberal Corporate-Fascist NWO Globalists like Macron first. Then let the Far Left fuck everything up.
97   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 7, 12:06pm  

The president gambled that French voters would block the far right as they have in the past.

But the National Rally instead won a larger share than ever in the first round of voting on 30 June.

More than 200 candidates from the Macron-backing Ensemble alliance and left-wing New Popular Front stepped down in seats otherwise facing a three-way battle, in a so-called “republican front” against the far right.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-election-2024-results-second-round-latest-b2575453.html

So far it's exit polls, let's see.
98   mell   2024 Jul 7, 12:31pm  

AmericanKulak says


SoTex says


I thought Le Pen (Penn?) had it in the bag?

No, same as last time - the Neoliberal Globalists and the Far Left worked hand in hand to deny seats to LePen, in many races withdrawing candidates for the strongest of them in that area. So if the Socialists were strongest say in Lille, the Macron Globalist party withdrew and their supporters told to vote Socialist.

Part of the FarLeft-CorporateSocialist alliance.

HOWEVER, even with the chicanery, Le Pen's party has enough strength to block any measures they don't like, so this is a victory.

In Europe, the boomers of the spirit of 68 there are militant about maintaining their pensions, no matter how much the young people suffer, and the Left/Globalist parties milk this fear to prevent reform.


Agreed but the lamestream media will spin this and try to take the wind out of trends in other countries. I really do think these days the only generations where the leftoids have a majority are boomers and millenials, maybe Gen z slightly but with the boomers (yep the former 68s are now the biggest globalists) dying out it's really only their Millenial childless hag spawn left which is rooting for the marxists
99   AD   2024 Jul 7, 12:38pm  

The left wing National Popular Front won today as the largest party in the French parliament.

So how will they govern with the "Macron moderates" coming in second place, and the right wing party coming in third ?

Does the left wing party in France have enough Macron moderates in parliament to pass legislation like more tax increases and an even more increase in immigration numbers ?

or will there be such a sudden and smug change in direction that it will alienate the Macron moderates and they will side with the right wing party ?
100   stereotomy   2024 Jul 7, 1:18pm  

Fuck the frogs. I'm glad to see that they now realize they are facing globohomo apocalypse, but that doesn't excuse them for fucking up the US government with Vietnam and their farcical adventures in Algiers against the rapefugees. Evern further back, the Sikes-Picot Agreement divvying up the territories of the former Ottoman Empire. Greedy gaullist fucks.
101   AD   2024 Jul 7, 2:05pm  

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supposedly Macron's party (Ensemble or Together !) is at worse "moderate" and leaning center right .... but that is in the context of French politics

so how many within Macron's party will split off and join the center right and right wing coalition ? it does not take that much to get them to have a majority of the 577 seats in France's parliament



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102   AD   2024 Jul 7, 2:11pm  

stereotomy says

Fuck the frogs. I'm glad to see that they now realize they are facing globohomo apocalypse


I agree as I wonder how much the French government will veer left and be a lot worse than Macron's party.

Will it have even more of an open border + welfare state state ?

Look at the Labor Party victory in United Kingdom.

I wonder how much emboldened they get and overreach to the point to cause a major shift in the electorate whereas the Labor Party is voted out in a relatively few of years.

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104   stereotomy   2024 Jul 7, 2:49pm  

AD says

stereotomy says


Fuck the frogs. I'm glad to see that they now realize they are facing globohomo apocalypse


I agree as I wonder how much the French government will veer left and be a lot worse than Macron's party.

Will it have even more of an open border + welfare state state ?

Look at the Labor Party victory in United Kingdom.

I wonder how much emboldened they get and overreach to the point to cause a major shift in the electorate whereas the Labor Party is voted out in a relatively few of years.

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As in this country, it's the same in France - a double-down on globohomo. When every daughter is violated by a rapefugee, and defense of one's home becomes a capital crime, then hopefully the sheeple will realize what they have enabled.

I see it within my own circles of close friends, friends, and then acquaintances. The worm is slowly turning - first it was the clot shot, now it's 2nd Amendment repression. Those of us who maintained the lonely vigil of truth will soon be joined with others from whose eyes the scales of propaganda have fallen away. It is a fraught and fearful vigil.
105   AD   2024 Jul 7, 9:37pm  

stereotomy says

When every daughter is violated by a rapefugee, and defense of one's home becomes a capital crime, then hopefully the sheeple will realize what they have enabled.


Good points.

I wish RichWicks was posting about this in regards to the masses of sheep who seem oblivious to their loss of liberties and the decay of society.

I haven't seen RickWicks post in a while.

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106   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 7, 10:09pm  

AD says


The left wing National Popular Front won today as the largest party in the French parliament.


Let's look at the numbers.

The media is pushing the "LePen came in third and last, *Sad Trombone* for them, Socialists first, Yee hah!"

En actualitie hon hon hon, National Rally (RN) won 143 seats, which is a significant increase from their previous best showing of 89 seats in 2022. So they grew their Assembly by about half again what they had.

What did the Socialists do? They got 180 seats. And Macron? Lost to 160 seats. And they only kept RN from winning more by colluding with each other very aggressively in scores of districts.

So that's pretty impressive. It's actually big GAINZ for the RN and the "First, Second, Third Place" crap is a globaloney media talking point:

180 Commies-Socialists
160 Gloablist/Liberals/French RINOs
140 Populist Right

And it has real power. With 143 seats for RN, it's a HUNG Parliament, which is brand new territory for France in the modern era.

And when you consider how volatile France usually is...

Prepare for fun
107   AD   2024 Jul 7, 10:29pm  

AmericanKulak says

And when you consider how volatile France usually is...

Prepare for fun


577 seats in France parliament

So far the forecast is this :

about 204 seats go to center right ("French Republicans") and far right

196 seats for New Popular Front (left wing) and non-affiliated center left parties

How many of the 160 seats for Macrons Party (the French "moderates") and the 7 non-affiliated centrists party likely are to join the center right to get to 289 seat majority ?

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From the Washington Post article today, and it seems the New Popular Front is more pro-immigration than Macron's party. Adn it wants to undo Macron's reforms such as to pensions and social welfare spending. Seems like a pipe dream even more than what the United Kingdom's Labor Party plans.

"The New Popular Front wants to lower France’s retirement age and vastly expand government spending on social welfare, environmental protection and health care."
108   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 7, 10:51pm  

9.3 million voted RN ("far-right") today.
5.1 million voted NFP (socialist) today.

The people of France wanted a right-wing government to put France first.

Instead, they're getting the opposite.
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1810089477131379006

(He's leaving out the centrist vote, but again, Macron and the Reds colluded, without that collusion, we might be looking at a RN majority)
109   AD   2024 Jul 7, 11:16pm  

AmericanKulak says

The people of France wanted a right-wing government to put France first.


Not sure Macron would form a coalition with the French Republicans (center right) AND Le Pen (far right) if Le Pen was to make significant concessions.

I am reading the New Popular Front (far left) wants to undo Macron's reforms such as with pensions and social welfare spending. That means higher taxes and at best slightly greater deficits (and debt to GDP ratio).

Macron is supported by the banking / financial elite so that could be enough for him to form with the center right.

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110   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 8, 11:28am  

NPF (socialist): 7M votes, 180 seats.

Macron's party: 6.6M votes, 159 seats.

RN ("far-right"): 10.1M votes, 142 seats.

This disparity is the result of Macron and socialists conspiring against LePen. 200 candidates dropped in specific regions, coalescing their parties against RN.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1810308521814335800
112   AD   2024 Jul 8, 10:47pm  

AmericanKulak says

This disparity is the result of Macron and socialists conspiring against LePen. 200 candidates dropped in specific regions, coalescing their parties against RN.


The NPF (far left) wants to undo Macron's reforms such as for pensions and social welfare spending.

How many in the Macron party is going to go along with that ?

And will that be what drives enough of them to form a coalition with the parties to the right of center ?
113   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 9, 11:19am  

AD says

The NPF (far left) wants to undo Macron's reforms such as for pensions and social welfare spending.

Yep!

Question is, which is more important to the Globalists? Keeping Immigration high, fueling artifically high rents, or cutting pensions and social welfare?
114   Booger   2024 Jul 9, 11:24am  

At least they are thinking of ways to fund it (temporarily):


115   AD   2024 Jul 9, 11:47am  

AmericanKulak says

Question is, which is more important to the Globalists? Keeping Immigration high, fueling artifically high rents, or cutting pensions and social welfare?


They can't disprove the Law of Milton Freedman, which is you cannot sustain an open border along with a welfare state.

It will be fun to watch how Macron manages this.

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116   Patrick   2024 Jul 11, 2:24pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/leading-from-behind-wednesday-july


Numbers vary. But as far as I can tell, Le Pen’s “far right” party received around 10.5 million votes. The Commie Coalition of “far left” parties got around 7.5 million votes. And the now bantam-sized, “center-right” RINO party of Macron got only 6.2 million votes.

You might wonder why Le Pen’s party lost, despite getting the most votes. It was because France’s far-left and center-right candidates worked together. In each district where Le Pen might have won, one or the other opposing candidate dropped out at the last minute and told their voters to support the other candidate. So, while the majority of French voters wanted the “far right” party, they discovered that what they thought were two traditional opposing party systems are really just a uni-party.

Alas, the predictable result that shocked reporters was that Marine Le Pen is now finding out the hard way that no woman is above the law:

The probe, which follows a preliminary inquiry, was opened last week over
suspicions of embezzlement, forgery, fraud and a candidate on an election
campaign accepting a loan, the Paris prosecutor's office confirmed to
POLITICO.

That will teach her! Nowhere in Politico’s article did it wonder whether Le Pen’s sudden new criminal prosecution was politically motivated. Nor did it compare Le Pen’s legal problems with the Orange Man.
117   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 11, 2:36pm  

Good lesson for these who want a multiparty system
here.

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