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2024 Aug 10, 9:43am 1,044 views 82 comments

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Nomograph is not some bot or AI troll; he has been a member of Patrick.net since 2007 or so, during the housing bubble. Briefly, here are some of his beliefs:

- Nomograph is centrist with a Libertarian bent, essentially a classical Conservative.

- Nomograph believes that the world is a more peaceful and verdant place today than is has ever been during the history of civilization. Starvation and rampant disease has been essentially eliminated, and most people enjoy opportunities that our predecessors couldn't even imagine.

- He believes in preserving traditional American values: small government, strict separation of church and state, personal freedom, rule of law, checks and balances, free elections, free markets.

- He supports gay marriage as a personal freedom. People should be free to do as they please as long as long as it doesn't harm others. Men have been fucking other men since the dawn of time and will continue to do so. Nomograph believes that people who are afraid that men fucking other men will somehow put their marriage at risk need to develop deeper faith in their own ways and beliefs.

- Nomograph is a gun owner and believes in 2nd amendment rights to bear arms. At the same time, he also realizes that the Founding Fathers had no understanding of what the term "arms" would come to mean in the modern world: weapons freely available to anyone capable of killing huge numbers of people. Thus, there needs to be a reasoned approach to how we define this right.

- He believes in personal responsibility at the most radical level. He believes if you are unhappy, it is YOUR job to change YOURSELF. If you are a poor American, you have the opportunity to improve yourself and your situation and it is your responsibility to do so. The government is not responsible for your success, wealth, and happiness. It is up to you if your marriage succeeds or fails. It is up to you if your career succeeds or fails. It is up to you to raise your children with the beliefs and morals you find important. It is up to you to live a healthy lifestyle and eat proper foods.

- Nomograph believes that almost every single conspiracy theory is nonsense. People can successfully conspire only at the smallest scale, such as within a small group or business. Any conspiracy that involves more than three people will most likely be found out. A conspiracy of more than 10 would be essentially impossible to keep secret, and national or global conspiracies are simply not possible. Multigenerational conspiracies like chemtrails and geoengineering are laughably ridiculous, according to Nomograph.

- Since a national conspiracy is impossible, Nomograph understands that Trump lost the election. It is not possible to have such a large conspiracy, with so much scrutiny, and not have the entire thing completely fall apart. Remember that Trump couldn't even throw a note in the toilet in the privacy of the White House without it being found out. A national election conspiracy collapses under the weight of it's required complexity, as do all conspiracies.

- Nomograph is a veteran of foreign wars.

- Nomograph is a physician, scientist, and educator

- Nomograph is vigorously pro-education.

- Nomograph rides a Harley

- Nomograph thinks California is the best state to live in, because it offers the greatest personal freedom and natural beauty. He can also split lanes on his Harley in California, making traffic irrelevant. Many people are afraid of the personal freedoms that California embraces and find such freedoms threatening, but Nomograph minds his own business and takes comfort in knowing that his own personal freedoms are protected and embraced. He does not like the state income tax, but likes the very low property tax rate.

- Nomograph believes in reasonably open borders, free trade, and a free labor market. He believes that allowing migrant workers to come is good for all. He knows that most migrant workers would prefer to return home to their families after the season is over, but many stay rather than risk a dangerous border crossing yearly. Nomograph believes that reinstating the successful Bracero program would be the best possible solution.

- Nomograph believes that if a migrant worker steals your job, then you deserved to lose it. He thinks it is each individual's responsibility to ensure that they have the necessary skills to be competitive in the labor marketplace. He does not believe it is the government's responsibility to protect your job.

- Nomograph does not want Trump to be president because he does not stand for traditional American, Conservative, or Libertarian values. He promotes restriction of free markets. He does not support free labor markets. He supports large and intrusive government policies. He does not practice personal responsibility, but rather encourages a victim mentality and culture of blaming. He supports curtailing personal freedoms.

- Nomograph is not a smart man.

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Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 9:49am

Nomograph says

Nomograph is a physician

Did you take the jab? Do you believe that the vax was safe and effective?

If not Trump, are you voting for Harris? If so, why?

Not expecting cogent answers, Thanks for playing.

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 9:53am

Nomograph says

- Nomograph rides a Harley

So you're a fag? Watch some South Park and you'll get it. Until then I wouldn't write that you're a Harley rider. They're losers.

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 10:05am

Nomograph says

- Nomograph believes that if a migrant worker steals your job, then you deserved to lose it. He thinks it is each individual's responsibility to ensure that they have the necessary skills to be competitive in the labor marketplace. He does not believe it is the government's responsibility to protect your job.

Lol. How about minimum wage??? It incentivizes people to cross the border and make 3-4x's what they would in Mexico or Central America. Are you on drugs or something? Thinking people want open borders is bat shit crazy.

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 10:09am

Onvacation says

Did you take the jab? Do you believe that the vax was safe and effective?

I was vaccinated with two boosters, but now that the virus has evolved to a less virulent state, I no longer feel the need. The vaccine was safe but only marginally effective due to rapid viral mutations. Billions of doses have been given with a very low rate of adverse events. You can read about the known side effects and rate of occurrence here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html. If you wish to dismiss the medical and scientific findings and embrace non-medical and non-scientific discourse, that is up to you.

I got COVID once, in 2022, and it was nbd by that time. I knew quite a few people who died during COVID, most had co-morbidities.

Onvacation says

If not Trump, are you voting for Harris? If so, why?

Trump and Harris are the two options.

Trump does not stand for traditional American, Conservative, or Libertarian values. He promotes restriction of free markets. He does not support free labor markets. He supports large and intrusive government policies. He does not practice personal responsibility, but rather encourages a victim mentality and culture of blaming. He supports curtailing personal freedoms.

Harris is a better supporter of free markets, free labor, and less government intrusion into personal freedom. She practices personal responsibility and does not encourage a victim mentality or culture of blaming. She supports the expansion of personal freedoms.

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 10:12am

Nomograph says

She supports the expansion of personal freedoms.

The freedom to kill and mutilate children?

LOL
You need to wean yourself off the MSM.

Wasn't expecting cogent answers.

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 10:31am

Onvacation says

Wasn't expecting cogent answers.

My answer is perfectly reasoned and cogent. You may want to examine why you feel that anything you disagree with is not "cogent."

Nomograph does not encourage abortion. Nobody does. Nomograph also does not support intrusion of government into highly personal medical decisions.

Onvacation says

The freedom to kill and mutilate children?

Using hyperbolic language does not make for a cogent argument. Abortions are almost entirely conducted at the germinal and embryonic stage where a small cluster of cells are discharged by hormonal induction. If you want to make a cogent argument for government control reproduction, you are better off staying away from emotional and bombastic terminology.

The entire thing is backfiring for Republicans. They are losing popularity over this issue, and no longer can rally the base with it. Furthermore they have impeded those who wish to get pregnant by in-vitro fertilization. The law of unintended consequences.

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 10:36am

WookieMan says

Nomograph says

- Nomograph rides a Harley

So you're a fag? Watch some South Park and you'll get it. Until then I wouldn't write that you're a Harley rider. They're losers.

Brilliant and well reasoned personal attack 😛. You may wish to examine why you feel the need to call someone who disagrees with you "a fag."

For the record, I also have owned several Triumphs, Ducatis, and a BMW. Variety is the spice of life, Wookie.

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 10:36am

Nomograph says

If you want to make a cogent argument for government control reproduction, you are better off staying away from emotional and bombastic terminology.

What about the genital mutilation your party supports under the name of "gender affirmation surgery"?
https://www.medstarhealth.org/services/gender-affirmation-surgery

As a doctor, do you support this?

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 10:37am

I flagged the "fag" comment btw. I think Patrick has a rule against personal attacks.

Why can't we all just get along? 😂

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 10:43am

Nomograph says

I also have owned several Triumphs, Ducatis, and a BMW. Variety is the spice of life,

No rice burners?

I've been riding on the street for 45 years, Mostly on Japanese sport bikes. I have friends who ride Harleys. They are not gay. I have ridden a few Harleys and they are a lot of fun on the straight highway, incredible torque. They get scary when the road gets twisty. It's just a whole different experience

11 mell 2024 Aug 10, 10:46am

Onvacation says

Nomograph says

If you want to make a cogent argument for government control reproduction, you are better off staying away from emotional and bombastic terminology.

What about the genital mutilation your party supports under the name of "gender affirmation surgery"?
https://www.medstarhealth.org/services/gender-affirmation-surgery

As a doctor, do you support this?

No physician who swore the hippocratic oath supports the murder of unborn children unless the mother's health is in danger (and very rare other edge cases such as rape) and it's a toss up. Same for genital mutilation and medical hormonal malpractice onto those who cannot consent. It's trolling

Al_Sharpton_for_President 2024 Aug 10, 10:47am

Nomograph says

The vaccine was safe but only marginally effective due to rapid viral mutations

Not a vaccine but a transfection reagent. The nanoparticles containing the mRNA spike sequence were not targeted, and have been shown to migrate out of the innoculation site. If they bleb onto a cell, that cell can become a target for an anti-spike immune response. There are a number of companies developing nanoparticles containing chimeric antigen receptor sequences for treating cancer. Not one is using non-targeted nanoparticles. Yes, they are delivered i.v., but still, only an insane person would take the risk of non-targeted transfection.

13 mell 2024 Aug 10, 10:48am

Nomograph says

I flagged the "fag" comment btw. I think Patrick has a rule against personal attacks.

Why can't we all just get along? 😂

What's wrong with being gay? Asking for a progressive friend

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 11:05am

Nomograph says

I flagged the "fag" comment btw. I think Patrick has a rule against personal attacks.

Why can't we all just get along? 😂

It was a reference to South Park the TV show. If you took it personally that's on you for some reason. Not at all personal referencing a TV show.

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 11:08am

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

The nanoparticles containing the mRNA spike sequence were not targeted, and have been shown to migrate out of the innoculation site. If they bleb onto a cell, that cell can become a target for an anti-spike immune response.

You fundamentally don't understand how this works. The immune response is toward the spike protein, not the mRNA that encodes the spike protein. mRNA is not protein, it is composed of nucleic acids. The mRNA itself is degraded by nuclease enzymes, not antibodies. There is no immune response towards mRNA itself.

If you believe strongly that the vaccine is deadly, you owe it to yourself to understand how mRNA vaccines work and what the potential sources of toxicity are. Otherwise your argument loses credibility.

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 11:12am

Nomograph says

Brilliant and well reasoned personal attack 😛. You may wish to examine why you feel the need to call someone who disagrees with you "a fag."

I didn't call you a fag. I referenced a TV cartoon show. Keep talking in the 3rd person though. Makes one look super intelligent.
Nomograph says

Nomograph does not encourage abortion. Nobody does. Nomograph also does not support intrusion of government into highly personal medical decisions.

You contradict yourself in the same paragraph. You're obviously trolling. I know you're a former user under a different username. Trying to figure out who.

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 11:13am

mell says

What about the genital mutilation your party supports under the name of "gender affirmation surgery"?

I support personal freedom. If someone wants to mutilate their genitals, or get a tattoo, or a boob job, they should be 100% free to do so.

I really don't spend much time thinking about what other people do to their genitals. It's not my business and I have more pressing matters to deal with. It's just another fake issue.

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 11:16am

Onvacation says

I've been riding on the street for 45 years, Mostly on Japanese sport bikes. I have friends who ride Harleys. They are not gay. I have ridden a few Harleys and they are a lot of fun on the straight highway, incredible torque. They get scary when the road gets twisty. It's just a whole different experience

I can't really ride sport bikes much anymore, the ergonomics are tough. Lately I enjoy doing weekend trips and occasionally longer, so my Harley is well suited for that. I do scrap peg pretty easily in the twisties though.

19 mell 2024 Aug 10, 11:18am

Nomograph says

mell says

What about the genital mutilation your party supports under the name of "gender affirmation surgery"?

I support personal freedom. If someone wants to mutilate their genitals, or get a tattoo, or a boob job, they should be 100% free to do so.

I really don't spend much time thinking about what other people do to their genitals. It's not my business and I have more pressing matters to deal with. It's just another fake issue.

Sure, if they're 18 and over and the taxpayer isn't on the hook for their self mutilation. But even then an MD who swore the hippocratic oath should have concerns if it's bad for the patient's physical health. So you should vote Trump to prevent the pedophiles from mutilating kids who cannot consent.

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 11:21am

Nomograph says

Onvacation says

Did you take the jab? Do you believe that the vax was safe and effective?

I was vaccinated with two boosters, but now that the virus has evolved to a less virulent state, I no longer feel the need. The vaccine was safe but only marginally effective due to rapid viral mutations.

Lol. You quote the CDC. The same CDC that said covid was deadly and hide your kids and family in a house for 2 years. It wasn't. You can make up all the people you know that died, that's a load of BS.

I had it 3 times. It was no worse than a minor cold. You don't know anyone that died from it. Post their names. They're dead, so can't dox them. You won't. Post an obit from anyone 2020-2022. We'll wait. You said multiple so it should be easy.

21 mell 2024 Aug 10, 11:22am

Nomograph says

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

The nanoparticles containing the mRNA spike sequence were not targeted, and have been shown to migrate out of the innoculation site. If they bleb onto a cell, that cell can become a target for an anti-spike immune response.

You fundamentally don't understand how this works. The immune response is toward the spike protein, not the mRNA that encodes the spike protein. mRNA is not protein, it is composed of nucleic acids. The mRNA itself is degraded by nuclease enzymes, not antibodies. There is no immune response towards mRNA itself.

If you believe strongly that the vaccine is deadly, you owe it to yourself to understand how mRNA vaccines work and what the potential sources of toxicity are. Otherwise your argument loses credibility.

That's a non sequitur. The mrna can encode into the dna and the immune response against the spike protein all over the body is deadly, since it consistently leavea the inoculation site. All all-cause mortality studies have shown a huge increase since the toxxine introduction. You cannot argue with math, it just is. Stay pureblood.

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 11:27am

Nomograph says

If someone wants to mutilate their genitals, or get a tattoo, or a boob job, they should be 100% free to do so.

You're comparing apples to gorillas. Tattoos and boob jobs are minor procedures. Cutting off reproductive organs is insanity. You need to be in an asylum at that point. It's mental health. Most of them commit suicide. Pretty inhumane. I'm not cool with anyone dying, but apparently you enjoy gays and trans people offing themselves. Totally sick. Maybe work to get them help? Novel idea.

Tenpoundbass 2024 Aug 10, 11:29am

Nomograph says

A conspiracy of more than 10 would be essentially impossible to keep secret, and national or global conspiracies are simply not possible.

Well of course 10 people can't keep their mouths shut, but the spooks can Seth Rich them, the Masters of the Universe(GAYTF) can sensor them, the media can ignore them, the DOJ and persecute them for wrong speak. To be perfectly clear here, there is not one single "Conspiracy Theory"(I'll get back to that mouth full in a minute) that is super duper secret that nobody knows about, because 10 folks privy to the inside scoop didn't run their mouth and spill the beans. Everything the Left and RINOs has done to this country since Reagan has been well documented and 95% of everything is well documented by the FBI in 100% redacted paper trails. Seems easy enough if the "Conspiracy Theorists" were full of shit, to disprove them. But nah, they release a white sheet a paper with about 25 to 30 page margin wide sharpie marks, covering every iota of information in said documents. Then clowns like you start yammering it's proof they are innocent of the accusations.

But lest circle back to "Conspiracy Theories" and wild outlandish "Conspiracy" accusations.

Why is it, when the Government believes you are embroiled in a Conspiracy to conspire to commit crimes, it's damn near an open and shut case, in which there is no escape, your ass is grass?

BUT!!

When the government gets caught up in lies and deceit and their conspiring to commit crimes against their office, and their oath to the constitution, all of a sudden "Conspiracy" is something that should be laughed at?

So you believe that Trump conspired with Russian Hookers to get pissed on, in exchange for state secrets to Putin, but you are unwilling to believe that it was all unconstitutional lawfare cooked up by Hillary and Obama's cabinet and state department workers, with help from foreign agents working to undermine America and essentially pull a coup?

This line of thinking makes you a fucking Nitwit and not worthy of the effort to entertain in political discourse.

Anyone that uses the phrase "Conspiracy Theory" as an escape from uncomfortable political discussion, is outclassed by the person they are trying to one up in that conversation. It's low brow thinking. And a cheap escape from being proven wrong.

Either the facts disprove accusations or they don't. Whinny, pissing and moaning and name calling does not prove you right.

A black box is not proof of shit.

Al_Sharpton_for_President 2024 Aug 10, 11:29am

Nomograph says

You fundamentally don't understand how this works.

Classic projection. It is not a vaccine. Do you understand the principal of transfection?

AmericanKulak 2024 Aug 10, 11:30am

Nomograph says

I support personal freedom. If someone wants to mutilate their genitals, or get a tattoo, or a boob job, they should be 100% free to do so.

Yeah, some 13-year old kid groomed for some Teacher's peer clout and virtue signally is not a 23-year old model getting sugar daddy to give her Double Ds.

Especially when Walz and Newsome keep it secret from parents.

Meanwhile you can't give your HS Sophomore kid an aspirin to take in their lunchbox.

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 11:35am

AmericanKulak says

Nomograph says

I support personal freedom. If someone wants to mutilate their genitals, or get a tattoo, or a boob job, they should be 100% free to do so.

Yeah, some 13-year old kid groomed for some Teacher's peer clout and virtue signally is not a 23-year old model getting sugar daddy to give her Double Ds.

He's off his rocker and trolling. I reference a TV show and he takes it personal. Comparing a dick whacking to a boob job is beyond logic. Good luck if you keep engaging. I think I'm out.

Tenpoundbass 2024 Aug 10, 11:41am

Nomograph says

Nomograph believes in reasonably open borders,

Are the open borders within reason now?
Because a huge fucking swath of the Democrat voting population does not think it is.
A huge swath of the Democrat voting population does not support Hamas, and Muslims over any peaceful group anywhere on the planet period.
A huge swath of the Democrat voting population does not support giving exceptional right to the LBGT rubric at the expense of everyone else, nobody has any rights above them let alone equal to them. The same can be said for the race baiting as well.

Your hubris of not give a shitness, that aligns with the Democrat party in totality, is sending the Party down the toilet.

Either someone will have to hijack the Democrat party and take it away from the Commie Scumbags, Race Hustlers and Oppressive one sided Rights enforcers, like Trump did to the Republican party. Or the Democrat party will go the way of the Wig party.

Democrats don't like to admit they are wrong, but they are keeping their fucking mouths shut now, while I'm in public, reading some Libtard scumbag the Riot act for Commie scumbags in an earshot to hear. I get looks of admiration and thanks. Where as from 2016 to 2020 there was no shortage of outclassed nematodes chiming in, calling me Hitler.

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 11:45am

Nomograph says

I support personal freedom. If someone wants to mutilate their genitals, or get a tattoo, or a boob job, they should be 100% free to do so.

Even children? Do you really think a primary school student has the wherewithal to "choose their gender"? What about puberty blocking drugs?

It seems so wrong.

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 11:47am

Nomograph says

I really don't spend much time thinking about what other people do to their genitals. It's not my business and I have more pressing matters to deal with. It's just another fake issue.

Tell that to the kids who are maimed and mutilated by the choices of adults around them.

"Gender affirming care" is sick. And it's not children that are perpetrating it.

Ceffer 2024 Aug 10, 11:53am

What a bizarre AI generated profile, with some handler editing the baloney to goose the 'credibility'.

A gay sympathetic physician, scientist, and educator veteran who rides a Harley and believes the vaxicides are real vaccines and claims to have been vaccinated twice. Yet, amongst the small handful of threads and comments are a headliner from 26 Feb 2023 with "How many people have been killed from the Trump Vaccine?", already an opportunistic propaganda reversal twist.

A physician who promotes Covid vaccines, whether through profit motive or ignorance, is a public health hazard. Any physician who isn't smart enough to see the transparent lies behind Covid, displays a failure of basic judgment skills. Most doctors who aren't retarded know, but just follow orders like good soldiers and gaslight to defend their license and living.

"Nomograph is not a smart man". What an utterly bizarre thing to say after trying to generate credibility through a bunch of faked bait hooks and mixed metaphor credentials.

'Doctor' who ride Harleys after spending any time in an emergency room indicates another failure of personal observations and judgment. Motorcycle riding doctors tend to be the fiction types in soap operas, not real life, after seeing the squashes, deaths and paralyses caused by motorcycles.

Favoring the maiming of vulnerable youth populations with the tranny indoctrination baloney: Monster plain and simple.

Nomograph is a 'no such person'. I don't know who or what thought this would generate credibility, but is as daft as a Biden three dollar bill.

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 11:58am

Tenpoundbass says

This line of thinking makes you a fucking Nitwit and not worthy of the effort to entertain in political discourse.

Disagree. Maybe Nomograph really is brainwashed and this is a call for help.

It's hard to believe he believes what he purports to believe but at least he's willing to dialog.

Try setting a brainwashed person straight in the real world and they are likely to angrily lash out at you and work to cancel you. I won't even bring up my ideas in public. I like working.

At least nomo is willing to debate.

Ceffer 2024 Aug 10, 12:06pm

Debating with a more sophisticated than usual AI may be good for jousting practice on some level. The topics and assertion fallacies rife in the bot's trolls, however, are propaganda repeating stations from the lying MSM and do not dignify real debate or even emotion.

This bot has a real person handler I don't doubt, but I can see the handler modifying and editing the stale AI generated stuff from its screen.

It's like watching the doctor at Kaiser reel off the allopathic Rockfeller profit based AI prompts from his computer screen at face value.

Guess we have to put up with this botswarm shit until the election is over (if it ever happens).

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 12:22pm

mell says

So you should vote Trump to prevent the pedophiles from mutilating kids who cannot consent.

Huh? Vote for Trump to prevent pedophiles from mutilating children? Are they doing the mutilation in a pizzeria? I hope they are harvesting adrenochrome at the same time, it would be a waste to pass up a value-added opportunity 😂.

Vote for Trump, or else your children will have their genitals mutilated by pedophiles 😂😂😂

It's a non-issue; there is essentially no surgical manipulation of genitals in the U.S. The exact numbers are 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. The rest of GAC is hormones or puberty blockers.

I think it's pretty weird, but it's a decision for the family and the individual, not the government. Making histrionic claims of pedophilic mutilations is silly and actually discredits the argument against such GAC. Instead, try using a more fact-based approach on why you think the government knows better than the family and individual.

Plus Trump won't do anything about it; he couldn't care less.

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 12:23pm

Ceffer says

a more sophisticated than usual AI

Oooh. A conspiracy. Quite a shock coming from the queen of conspiracy theories 😂

Nomograph 2024 Aug 10, 12:27pm

Onvacation says

Try setting a brainwashed person straight in the real world and they are likely to angrily lash out at you and work to cancel you. I won't even bring up my ideas in public. I like working.

If everyone out in "the real world" thinks you are a crank, and only here on Patrick.net are you able to find a few like-minded souls to commune with, you may consider the validity of your positions.

You vastly underestimate people, and overestimate yourself, by dismissing those who disagree with you as being "brainwashed"

WookieMan 2024 Aug 10, 12:34pm

Nomograph says

You vastly underestimate people, and overestimate yourself, by dismissing those who disagree with you as being "brainwashed"

Why does Kamala have no policy positions after about 3 weeks? What was she doing as VP? She did nothing about the border in 3.5 years. It only got worse. She didn't even address that Biden was brain dead even though intelligent people knew he was.

You're not being dismissed. You're not bringing forward facts and trolling.

Convince us why Kamala should be POTUS. We'll wait.

Tenpoundbass 2024 Aug 10, 12:40pm

Onvacation says

At least nomo is willing to debate.

You see what Nomo posted on his thoughts. When I am talking to folks on the left like that. I will sit and listen to them monologue for 15 minutes and not interrupt them once. But when I try to outline my position, I get about four words out before they are trying to finish what I'm saying, dismiss it as "Conspiracy Theory" and getting louder and louder as I plea for them to hear me out and give me the same respect I gave them.
They never debate, not honestly. They stick in their jabs, and get the hell out of there. Even if they are being cordial about it.

There's a Project manager on a job I'm doing electric for that's his MO when we discuss politics. Even when the nightly news even CNN and MSNBC confirms my position that night. You think he changes his view the next day? No he just doubles down.

I told him that Rachell Maddows has her hand so far up your ass, it's coming out your mouth, and you're talking like her puppet.

Then I did the puppet hand gesture while he was talking. (This only after countless attempts to have a two sided debate with him)

They also like to invoke Civics into the discussion. The jackass in question, likes to pull out his Hail Marry by talking about Civics, and Congress and decorum. He likes to bitch about Matt Gaetz, and he only has a Rachell Maddow view. He said he hasn't introduced one single bill since coming in office, that all he does is say mean stuff to Democrats in Congress. He's a Democrat and hates Matt Gaetz and says he is supposed to be there to do "HIS" bidding. A Democrat not even from his district. This is how he invokes "Civics" in his discussion, like everything else Civics out of context.

So after establishing that he has never actually saw one Congress session where Matt Gaetz was talking, he also admitted that outside of a handful of Democrat and Republican Congressmen he can't name more than 5 or 6 people in Congress, but Matt Gaetz is one of them. He thinks he knows enough about Congress to lecture me about Civics. I then informed him, there are two kinds of Congressmen, one goes in to pass laws and right wrongs the other vows to go in reform, and investigate. One is a legislator and the other is a committeeman. Both are just as equally mandated by the voters that elected them to pass the law or investigate what they promised to reform. I told him that Matt answers to his people back home that elected him, not Rachell Maddows and you. He talks about the Civic duty of these people to do his bidding, while ignoring the folks that actually sent them to Washington. Matt Gaetz is one a paltry few, that is actually doing what he promised to do for his voters.
Then upon further researching when I got home, I found on a .gov site, that Matt Gaetz has introduced over 136 pieces of legislation. And has backed countless others. Think the GC guy will repent in any shape or form for his misspeak? Fat chance!

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 12:43pm

Nomograph says

The exact numbers are 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17

So they really are mutilating kids.Nomograph says

You vastly underestimate people, and overestimate yourself, by dismissing those who disagree with you as being "brainwashed"

Even the brainwashed people?
What about global warming? Do you believe CO2 is boiling the earth?

Onvacation 2024 Aug 10, 12:44pm

Nomograph says

"the real world"

Where is that?

It only takes one person to call you out and make your life miserable here in Cali if you espouse the "wrong" ideas.

Ceffer 2024 Aug 10, 12:45pm

Nomograph says

Oooh. A conspiracy. Quite a shock coming from the queen of conspiracy theories 😂

LOL! Bot Handler who claims to be gay or gay friendly is resorting to homophobia accusations. Maybe they should hire somebody who doesn't drink on the job or smoke three packs of unfiltered Camels a day. I can see the ruffled basement Intel chair magnet with hot pockets, dribbled coffee and five o'clock shadow.

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