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De-dollarization and Brics currency rise.


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2023 Feb 21, 12:53pm   17,800 views  250 comments

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGd-DvuEPfU

This is a 1hr video, but very good explanation of coming de-dollarization. Take sometime to listen to it.

I dont agree 100% with the points in the video but would like any financial experts thoughts about it.

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174   FarmersWon   2024 Jun 2, 11:00pm  

1 USD buys 83 Hindus.
Some year ago you could only buy 40 Hindus for $1.

Hindu has become cheaper and begging worldwide. Dollar is king and Hindu is slave.

Even few shekels can buy lot of Hindus to work in war zone. Hindu is desperate. Hindu money is worthless, no challenge to USD.
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/17/1229525320/india-israel-hamas-war-jobs-migrant-workers
175   indc   2024 Jun 3, 9:07am  

@UkraineIsTotallyFucked

Why do you think Trump is talking about De-dollarisation now?
176   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 3, 9:28am  

indc says

UkraineIsTotallyFucked

Why do you think Trump is talking about De-dollarisation now?


Who cares?
177   FarmersWon   2024 Jun 3, 9:50am  

Hindus live/earn in US but still wants to destroy it.

India supporting treasonous Hindus must be deported.
178   AD   2024 Jun 3, 11:29am  

indc says

UkraineIsTotallyFucked

Why do you think Trump is talking about De-dollarisation now?


Trump is concerned the standard of living will significantly degrade because of a lot weaker dollar. Biden has not even during the 2020 campaign.

That is why Trump realizes we have to be as energy independent as possible, as especially food prices will be hard hit with an increase in the price of diesel.

Perhaps also this means that the price of the cheapest laptop at Walmart goes up 50% because of de-dollarization.

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179   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 3, 11:38am  

AD says

That is why Trump realizes we have to be as energy independent as possible, as especially food prices will be hard hit with an increase in the price of diesel.


We are. We are a net oil and gas exporter (on and off). Food? We have been a huge exporter of that for over a century.

AD says

Perhaps also this means that the price of the cheapest laptop at Walmart goes up 50% because of de-dollarization.


And all of that will be sold for dollars. So much for 'de-dollarization'.

They will then be made in North America and a few other places.
180   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 3, 12:04pm  

Basic take here: UST loses reserve asset status bit US dollar does not lose reserve currency status.



https://youtu.be/DD1CnjI2Z3k?si=IWyzw7QlIYKjIXVO
181   AD   2024 Jun 3, 12:19pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

And all of that will be sold for dollars. So much for 'de-dollarization'.

They will then be made in North America and a few other places.


Yes, sold in dollars at Walmart and other retail outlets in the USA, but at a higher price because of de dolarization (and weakened USA dollar).

True, as far as being made other than by the Chicoms such as made in Mexico, Vietnam, Philippines, Guatemala, Peru, etc.

Cheapest Chrome book at Walmart around $188 now. I think same sold for around $150 a couple of years ago.

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182   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 5, 11:57am  

AD says


but at a higher price because of de dolarization (and weakened USA dollar).


There is no 'de-dollarization'.

The Walmart example you cite is not an example of de-dollarization. Dollars were used to buy the fucking laptop, not gold or bitcoin or magical BRICS bucks.


183   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 5, 12:19pm  

A lot of references to 'yuan' in this article could apply to 'yen' 27 years ago. Especially about export mercantilism.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/what-would-it-take-for-a-bric-based-currency-to-succeed/
184   stereotomy   2024 Jun 5, 2:35pm  

China is largely dependent on energy and food from the rest of the world. It has dirt and mines, as well as rice paddies, but not enough food to feed its people or energy to fuel its industry (this is why they're gung-ho for nuclear, besides the obvious arms benefit of the PUREX process for refining plutonium).

Europe and the US have to pay farmers to curtail production so as to maintain prices - their farmers are that productive because the climate and resources are at present abundant. Hell, Europe is trying to run its farmers off their lands because the cows fart too much.
185   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 5, 10:50pm  

stereotomy says

Europe and the US have to pay farmers to curtail production so as to maintain prices - their farmers are that productive because the climate and resources are at present abundant. Hell, Europe is trying to run its farmers off their lands because the cows fart too much.


European farmers are dependent on farm supports and protectionism precisely because they are not productive as they need to be. Same for Japanese farmers.
186   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 11, 10:20am  

What? How come no rubles, rupees or rials are involved? Duuhhh..BRICS De-dollarization!


187   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 11, 11:04am  

Wow! $400 billion!

But...BRICS! De-dollarization!




188   Rin   2024 Jun 11, 11:34am  

Ppl, let me help you to isolate when the possibility or perhaps better stated ... the fear of de-dollarization was apparent in the global markets. It was during the reign of error ... George W Bush, the worst president in modern US history.

That's when Gold broke out of its multi-decade bearish channel and into a bull market. Here's that chart ...



Since GWB, gold bugs have been screaming & shouting but yet, instead of expecting every pullback to $1100/oz or $1500/oz (or even $1800/oz), to melt up to $5000/oz or $10000/oz, they could have just swing traded it and made money.
192   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 24, 4:36pm  

First the USD was going to hyperinflate and lose the GRC.

Then was going to be replaced by the Euro.

Then SWIFT was going to be usurped by INSTEX.

Then the PetroYuan was going to kill the PetroDollar.

Then Shanghai Gold Exchange was touted as the killer app.

When that didn’t work the e-yuan was sure to do it.

After that came Libra.

During Covid the Fed did everything the dollar fatalists ever predicted and they assured me the DXY would never again go above 100.

Then the DXY went to a 30 year high.
Bitcoin and crypto have created fabulous wealth but have also solidified the USD as GRC via stable coins.

And amongst all of this stuff that has never worked over the years the BRICs continuously hinted “this year” would be their big launch. And yet Lucy pulls the football away every year.

Now that none of this stuff has worked the goalposts have been moved again and two new stories have emerged.

1) The USD wont lose Global Reserve Currency status but USTs will lose Global Reserve Asset status…never mind the fact that USTs losing GRA status would contribute to the USD returning to all time highs.
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2) The USD is not the most important form of money but energy is. Never mind that money was invented so man could harness energy without having to use it directly.

I continue to love these de-dollarization stories for the same reason I love science fiction.
It’s creative, it’s interesting, it’s forward looking….and in 20 or 30 years some of it will be true..


https://x.com/SantiagoAuFund/status/1761384508077592784
193   AmericanKulak   2024 Jun 24, 4:40pm  

BRICS replacing the USD is like 20 years old right now. It's all Syrio-Iranian-Russo MSM bullshit
195   RWSGFY   2024 Aug 17, 5:25pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says






Kim Dotcom is a stupid cunt.
196   AD   2024 Aug 17, 5:49pm  

I look at this fund which is priced in US dollars. Ticker is BNDX and I compare it to the ticker BND. This gives me some glimpse as far as owning foreign assets and how they exchange or convert to US dollars.

BNDX dropped about 20% from its all time high in 2019, and BND dropped about 26% from its all time high in 2021.

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197   AD   2024 Aug 17, 6:35pm  

Also I noticed that Walmart's cheapest laptops (Chromebook and Windows) are still $180 as they were in 2020.

That tells me the dollar is still strong as far as imported cheap laptops.

I'd run Ubuntu on the cheap Windows laptop.
198   FarmersWon   2024 Aug 18, 1:52am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

First the USD was going to hyperinflate and lose the GRC.

Then was going to be replaced by the Euro.

Then SWIFT was going to be usurped by INSTEX.

Then the PetroYuan was going to kill the PetroDollar.

Then Shanghai Gold Exchange was touted as the killer app.

When that didn’t work the e-yuan was sure to do it.

After that came Libra.


Hindus are chimps. Nobody with two brain cells believe these chimps.
But these low IQ idiots do believe in their own BS like flying monkey:
199   AmericanKulak   2024 Aug 18, 2:03am  

Bridgewater steps back from China as biggest hedge fund slashes stock bets for 7th quarter
The US hedge fund’s holdings of Chinese stocks listed in the US have declined by 80 per cent in value since September 2022, according to filings

https://www.scmp.com/business/markets/article/3274775/bridgewater-cuts-china-stock-bets-7th-straight-quarter-market-trails-us-japan#
200   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Aug 18, 6:14am  

brics has no currency it’s just cancel culture avoidance for inner trade between members, no middle man.
201   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 18, 6:25am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

brics has no currency it’s just cancel culture avoidance for inner trade between members, no middle man.


That is pretty much all it has amounted to so far, yes. But it isn't because the dollar 'is trash'. It's because demand for it is stronger. Esp when we raised our interest rates fast & hard. That messed up things for the Turd World that have at least $70T in debt amongst themselves.
202   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Aug 18, 6:29am  

debt by nation breakdown. we are way ahead, and i don’t think that’s good.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html
203   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 18, 9:47am  

Three contiguous regions that comprise 50% of the world's GDP.
204   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 18, 9:50am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Three contiguous regions that comprise 50% of the world's GDP.


Only thing that matters is GDP to debt ratio. And it totally lies about China's by excluding the massive debts held by SOEs.
205   AD   2024 Aug 18, 11:37am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Only thing that matters is GDP to debt ratio.


Yes as that is akin to debt to income ratio. It measures how sustainable the debt load is.

Its also important to track debt payment or debt service as a percentage of tax receipts, and debt payment as a percentage of total federal budget.

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206   AD   2024 Aug 18, 11:46am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

And it totally lies about China's by excluding the massive debts held by SOEs.


as far as State Owned Industries (SOEs) in Communist China, yes as the Chicoms can easily conceal the debt of their SOEs

they do not have the transparency of the USA such as Amazon and Google have to report their financials and investors track debt to equity ratio, etc
208   AD   2024 Aug 21, 10:50pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

BRICS 'is working'.

https://www.vedomosti.ru/finance/articles/2024/08/20/1056702-kitaiskie-banki-vozvraschayut-platezhi-za-uzhe-poluchennie-importerami-tovari?from=newsline


Yeah same goes with Russian selling more of its oil and gas to India. India is paying with Indian currency and I believe India is putting restrictions on what Russia can buy with those India dollars.

India relying a lot more on Russia oil and gas, whereas only 45% of its energy imports are from OPEC versus 85% in 2015.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indias-russian-oil-imports-rise-nine-month-high-april-2024-05-21/

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209   AD   2024 Aug 21, 11:21pm  

and this also
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210   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 21, 11:26pm  

AD says

I believe India is putting restrictions on what Russia can buy with those India dollars.


True.

These peeps all want to export but not import, for the most part. That won't work.
212   Patrick   2024 Aug 23, 5:49pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says







None of this makes sense to me.

Sure you can run a deficit with gold. Why would it make any difference to a trade deficit whether Russia is using gold or dollars?

And what are they talking about with Russian buyers getting their money back from China after receiving the goods? Who is sending the money back to Russia?
213   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 23, 6:45pm  

Patrick says


And what are they talking about with Russian buyers getting their money back from China after receiving the goods? Who is sending the money back to Russia?


Chinese banks or intermediary bsnks. The Indians have done it via another way, buy the result is that Russians have rupees that they aren't allowed to spend on Indian goods they want to buy.

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