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2024 Sep 10, 2:45pm   2,565 views  196 comments

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168   AD   2024 Sep 12, 6:08pm  

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Go to 2:01 in video and 4:22 in video where the Springfield Ohio residents speak of ducks from parks and pet animals from farms being taken

this is the video that Trump may have mentioned in addition to 911 calls in regards to Springfield Ohio

notice the media has not continuously berated Trump about this after the debate because likely it will draw attention to this video and other very similar videos

https://youtu.be/ImSlcxvDz4Q

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169   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 12, 6:12pm  

AD says

notice the media has not continuously berated Trump about this after the debate because likely it will draw attention to this video and other very similar videos


But the Dumbass Democrats are. Amazing the level of political stupidity they are capable of.
170   WookieMan   2024 Sep 12, 6:16pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says





She's not likable to men. Same with professional women that actually work. She comes across as a bitch.

Not in my age range but I'd run from any woman that behaves like she does. Women are always gonna lose in America for POTUS. It would take level 10 talent and attractiveness. She's dumb and the age is showing on her neck. She ain't 36 anymore. I'm 41 and don't ever see a female POTUS in my lifetime. There's no talent in the pool. By default women probably lose 5 points over the female vote gain.

We can fawn over Tulsi, but she lost badly too in a primary. Even beta males won't vote for women. There are a lot of factors why she loses, but this is part of it and why I think it's a landslide win for Trump. The map will be west coast, IL and some of the Northeast. I'm not convinced on CO either. I don't think CA has taken that over too much or IL.
171   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 12, 6:24pm  

WookieMan says

Women are always gonna lose in America for POTUS.


Democrat women. First woman POTUS will be GOP, I think. Soon as we find our own Maggie Thatcher.

WookieMan says

We can fawn over Tulsi, but she lost badly too in a primary


Yeah. A DEMOCRAT primary.
172   AD   2024 Sep 12, 6:25pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says


AD says

https://youtu.be/ImSlcxvDz4Q

notice the media has not continuously berated Trump about this after the debate because likely it will draw attention to this video and other very similar videos

But the Dumbass Democrats are. Amazing the level of political stupidity they are capable of.


yes, its like a Jon Leibowitz (Stewart) claptrap

MSNBC will rerun it continuously before they move onto another more pandering story

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175   PeopleUnited   2024 Sep 12, 8:40pm  

Patrick says





The funny thing is KAmunist is actually less likable and less trustworthy than Bidet. With him it was lipstick on a Pig/corpse, with her it is lipstick on a demon.
176   PeopleUnited   2024 Sep 12, 8:48pm  

WookieMan says


I'm 41 and don't ever see a female POTUS in my lifetime. There's no talent in the pool.

If 2020 didn’t happen I would be inclined to agree. Look at 2016, which backs up your assessment. And remember, for the majority of people I believe Hilary is more likable than Kamunist Harris. However Kamunist gets points for not carrying as much baggage as Hilary who was potentially more polarizing than even Kamunist. But then again in 2020 they installed a Bidet in the White House that the voters of the states didn’t order if you know what I mean. I mean the corpse basically didn’t even campaign but supposedly got more votes than Obama? So all bets are off when they have proven time and again (2022 was another shit show) that they can steal with impunity and the courts are too chicken shit to enforce the law. I encourage all conservatives to vote, but it is the people/algorithms that count the vote who determine the outcome.
177   PeopleUnited   2024 Sep 12, 8:54pm  

Ceffer says

I prefer 'Illuminati War' myself.

It is the beginning of the great deception.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
178   WookieMan   2024 Sep 13, 2:36am  

Patrick says





Gonna dox myself a bit. Don't bring pole vault into this.
179   Patrick   2024 Sep 13, 12:12pm  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/what-you-dont-know-might-surprise


Now, as for the Harris-Trump debate, otherwise, and given the rigged features of the exercise, it’s obvious that Mr. Trump muffed several major scoring opportunities. When Ms. Harris dredged up the notorious hoax about “very fine people on both sides” in Charlottesville, Mr. Trump could have addressed the moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis and asked them why they did not “fact-check” the utterance, which had been thoroughly debunked by the Left-wing site Snopes.com, advertising itself as “the definitive Internet reference source for researching urban legends, folklore, myths, rumors, and misinformation.” Nor did they fact check the likewise debunked “suckers and losers” hoax about US soldiers supposedly uttered by Mr. Trump at the Normandy D-Day cemetery. Actually, Muir and Davis “fact-checked” Mr. Trump over thirty times and Ms. Harris hardly at all.

In any case, Mr. Trump blew many other chances to pin Ms. Harris with her own lies and hypocrisies — like, failing to state plainly that in nearly four years she never actually visited the Mexican border (whatever her designated title was: “Border Czar,” “Root Causes Detective”) . . . failing to clarify that the president has been removed from the abortion debate altogether and has no role in telling women what to do with their own bodies under current law. . . that Ms. Harris’s voteless selection as nominee was a paradigmatic affront to “our democracy” that even her own fellow party members ought to recognize . . . that the War in Ukraine was actually started in early 2014 by Barack Obama, Victoria Nuland, and the CIA, not by Mr. Putin . . . and omitting to state that all — every last one — of the 2020 election lawsuits across the nation were dismissed on procedural grounds and not on the merits of their arguments, which were never heard in court. That’s just a short list. It is also rumored that Ms. Harris got the debate questions beforehand, since her husband, Hollywood lawyer Doug Emhoff, is a close friend of Dana Walden, Co-chair of the Disney Corporation board of directors (Disney owns ABC-News.)

Anyway, that much-awaited event is over now and we are into the homestretch of this election. Kamala Harris has still shown no disposition to meet the press, to answer any questions impromptu and unscripted. The voting public seems to be losing patience with that. Her poll numbers are sinking, despite her admirable ability to speak in declarative sentences and lead joyful laugh-fests.
184   Ceffer   2024 Sep 15, 3:37pm  

AND, they still fucked themselves with their obvious manipulative treacheries and cheating.

Interesting.
188   Patrick   2024 Sep 15, 7:25pm  

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/how-abc-manipulated-viewers-with


What I did notice was that they kept Trump and Harris in a tight two-shot, meaning, they never pulled back to show just how much shorter she is than him. That makes a big difference. Their camera showed them to be of equal size 95% of the time. I know that was deliberate because everyone knows height matters in elections.

As a contrast, the Trump and Hillary debate which shows them both in full body shots — they didn’t dare do that with Harris.

When they did pull back it was a strange perspective so as not to notice the height difference...

I will also note that the only viral story that has emerged from the debate is the “eating cats and dogs” story. While the Democrats are trying to spin this as a major negative on Trump, I am not so sure that is what people want for Harris. I think they wanted her to come out of it with some viral bump.
189   HeadSet   2024 Sep 15, 8:02pm  

Patrick says

When they did pull back it was a strange perspective so as not to notice the height difference...

They did the same with Reagan - Dukakis, as far as not to show a height difference. They even had the camera on gimbals to lower so that Dukakis would not look short.
191   Patrick   2024 Sep 16, 12:37pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/missed-shots-monday-september-16


One thing we’ve learned throughout the pandemic is that the media always rushes out a distracting violent catastrophe as soon as any embarrassing news threatens to break. So as soon as I heard the news about Routh’s arrest, I wondered whether there was some other story they were trying to obliterate with a second assassination story.

I found it almost instantly.

To get the story in any media, we must travel all the way to the ancient land of India. Yesterday, Times Now ran an article headlined “ABC Whistleblower's Alleged Affidavit Surfaces: Top Claims About Harris-Trump Debate.”

In the potentially explosive affidavit, a whistleblower (name redacted), first stated he lives in Manhattan and has worked for ABC for over ten years in various technical and management positions. He —I’m going with ‘he,’ but we don’t know for sure— then referred to liberal changes in ABC’s editorial policies since 1996 — suggesting he has worked at ABC for a long time.

He claimed ABC has a massive anti-Trump bias, and then described details about close, unfair pre-debate coordination between ABC and the Harris campaign.

It’s important to remember that anyone can type up and sign an affidavit. Affidavits are considered evidence, but they are subject to rebuttal, and are evaluated for credibility. So, before we look at the claims, let’s consider the most remarkable and most credible feature of this affidavit: it was prepared, signed, and notarized before the September 10th debate.

The affidavit accurately predicted, ahead of time, exactly what we all saw play out the next day. You can’t get any more credible than that.

True, the pre-debate date could have been faked. But the whistleblower anticipated that challenge, and so (according to the affidavit), he also:

— sent a certified letter containing the affidavit to himself, postmarked September 9th, which remains unopened;

— dispatched a FedEx package with the affidavit on September 9th, delivered to his residence on September 10th, which remains unopened; and

— sent a certified letter with the affidavit to Speaker Mike Johnson on September 9th.

Call all that life insurance. (Initial online rumors he died in a car crash were just that, and my best is intentional disinformation.)

In other words, the whistleblowing affiant can prove he signed his prophetic affidavit before the debate. But he offered even more evidence. In the affidavit’s most potentially explosive claim, the whistleblower claimed he has recordings:

Additionally, For further investigation, I have secretly
recorded several conversations that will prove that the Harris
Campaign insisted upon not only the Fact Checking of
Donald Trump, but also insisted on what questions were not
to be asked under any circumstances or else the Harris
campaign would decline to participate in the debate.

That allegation of recordings must make ABC’s lawyers extremely nervous. They don’t know exactly what they can safely lie about.

Now for the claims. The whistleblower claimed that the Harris campaign insisted on certain secret conditions, to which ABC agreed, including that:

— Trump would be aggressively fact-checked, and Harris wouldn’t be fact-checked at all.

— Harris would not be asked any questions about covering up for Joe Biden’s dementia.

— Harris would not be asked any questions about her record as California’s Attorney General.

— Harris would not be asked about her brother-in-law Tony West, a former top Obama DOJ official and Uber executive, who was alleged to have helped embezzle billions (with a ‘B’) of taxpayer dollars and is being floated for Attorney General in a Harris Administration.

— Harris received secret, pre-debate “sample questions” that were not exactly the same as the questions she was asked but were close enough to let her prepare canned responses.

— Harris got other accommodations, such as a special podium and promises of favorable split-screen coverage.

— Trump got no accommodations.

According to Times Now, neither ABC nor the Harris campaign have responded to this credible affidavit’s claims. With the new attempted assassination news, this story is designed to disappear in the fog like so many others have. But we don’t need to let that happen.
192   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 17, 6:38am  

At the risk of sounding richwicks, this smells of bullshit.
195   Patrick   2024 Sep 18, 8:59am  

https://modernity.news/2024/09/18/clip-shows-springfield-city-manager-admitting-hes-heard-about-reports-haitian-migrants-are-eating-pets/


Freshly uncovered footage originally from March shows a Springfield, Ohio City Manager confirming that he has “heard about” reports of Haitian migrants eating pets, confounding claims by the media that the whole issue is a baseless online conspiracy theory.

When Donald Trump claimed during last week’s presidential debate that Haitian migrants were eating dogs and cats, he was swiftly fact checked by ABC moderator David Muir.

“I just want to clarify here, you bring up Springfield, Ohio. And ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community,” said Muir.

Except, that doesn’t appear to be true.

https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/1836178999178866766

Video footage from a Springfield City Commission Meeting that took place on March 12, 2024 shows a concerned resident raising the subject.

The man suggests that life in Springfield is “180 degrees different to what they’re used to,” suggesting he is talking about recently arrived Haitian migrants.

“And one of the things that I heard that bothered me very much and I’ve actually had quite a few people contact me here lately is some pretty horrible things happening to domesticated animals in the neighborhood,” he states.

“We’ve had some stuff in the park and again they’re being taken advantage of for reasons other than…”

At this point, Springfield City Manager Brian Heck appears to express doubt, stating, “You asked me if there was proof, we just don’t have proof.”

“People who have confided in me have asked me for anonymity, I can’t give their names up,” responds the resident.

“I mean we haven’t seen the proof that you’re talking about, and I have heard about it,” says Heck.

This contradicts to some extent what Heck said last week, when he released a public statement asserting the reports were false. ...

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