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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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4108   Ceffer   2024 Sep 2, 12:15pm  

The_Deplorable says





https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1830110518113186289

Wohhhhh, baby! Too heavy on the red pill, there, get it back to first gear. You might be mistaken for a Russkie Loving Kommie. Or is it Nazi. Or is it Moloch defier. Or is it Orthodox Christian Stooge. I'm confused.
4111   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Sep 3, 5:05pm  

Patrick says






I think this is to cover up how easy it was for the Russians to shoot it down, instead.

Lockheed-Martin still makes and sells F-16s. If it got out what a POS it is, well...that wouldn't be good for sales now, would it?
4112   WookieMan   2024 Sep 3, 5:46pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

I think this is to cover up how easy it was for the Russians to shoot it down, instead.

You think Ukrainians even know how to fly a Cessna with a bottle of vodka between their legs? Eurasia is completely inept at anything. Ukraine won't "win" but either side is a shit show. War of attrition. Russia has more bodies. They win.

Awful song, but whatever: https://youtu.be/04F4xlWSFh0?si=N6WhHV9bjAAxeTn8
4113   zzyzzx   2024 Sep 4, 6:00am  

WookieMan says

War of attrition. Russia has more bodies. They win.


That never stopped other people from beating Russia. Poland and Germany come to mind.
4114   RWSGFY   2024 Sep 5, 8:21am  

One month of rampant lampshade-making out of Pukin's subjects in the 1200 sq km of Kursk lost to Nazis and all we hear from Pukin is "some bandits are running around there". 🤡



Are Nazis real or not? Are they dangerous or not? Wasn't the idea of Speshual
Military Opereyshun to protect Soviet citizens from the Nazis? Is it still going according to plan? How do you like my Cucker Tarlson impersonation?
4115   Patrick   2024 Sep 6, 11:54am  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/ghosts-in-the-machine


Russia is about to roll up on what’s left of Ukraine. Our State Department neocon division thought it was wicked-smart to start a little action there in 2014, to provoke Russia into a ruinous war against NATO (the game: “Let’s You and Him Fight”) in order, theoretically, to wreck Russia and depose Mr. Putin. Didn’t work. Do you know why? I will tell you (it’s really simple): Russia’s leadership is more intelligent than ours, and far less psychopathic. They perceived correctly that we were only wrecking ourselves.

Ten years later, the Ukraine caper draws to a humiliating end for our neocons, and a ruinous end for NATO and the EU. So far this year, it appears that “Joe Biden’s” party has ceased paying attention to Ukraine. The pretty yellow and blue flags have all but disappeared — except in Massachusetts, we noticed, the most highly “educated” and most deeply insane state in the union. I’ll be interested in how Kamala Harris explains our Ukraine war policy in Tuesday’s presidential debate. Defending democracy, I suppose.

The governments of the major EU nations stupidly followed the bidding of America’s psychopathic neocons and now they ‘ll have to answer for it as their people awake to the destruction of the EU nations’ economies. Early elections will be called and globalist stooges will be swept away. The turmoil will rhyme with the chaos of 1848, a year of revolution. NATO, finding itself not just purposeless but toxic to Europe’s well-being, must dissolve as members on the periphery withdraw, some seeking to join the BRICs economic bloc. Germany, France, and the UK get sucked helplessly into a new great depression and social turmoil as they contend with many millions of hostile migrants.

Here in America, you can already hear the fake anguished cry of “Russia, Russia, Russia” echoing out of Merrick Garland’s fake Justice Department. We’re to understand that the Russians are coming for our election — more gaslight — when it’s actually the Democratic party, led surreptitiously by its lawfare cadres, Norm Eisen, Marc Elias, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord, Lisa Monaco, et al. Their many of their courtroom pranks have failed against Mr. Trump. Judge Chutkan was bloviating in the DC federal court this week to generate a little heat on MSNBC, but her case has a wooden stake through its heart and Xs where its eyes used to be.
4116   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Sep 6, 5:22pm  

RWSGFY says


One month of rampant lampshade-making out of Pukin's subjects in the 1200 sq km of Kursk lost to Nazis and all we hear from Pukin is "some bandits are running around there". 🤡



Are Nazis real or not? Are they dangerous or not? Wasn't the idea of Speshual
Military Opereyshun to protect Soviet citizens from the Nazis? Is it still going according to plan? How do you like my Cucker Tarlson impersonation?


You got things mixed around:


4117   Patrick   2024 Sep 9, 9:23am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/kkkat-ladies-monday-september-9-2024


The most astonishing metric of how bad things are getting for Ukraine was the fact that, after new conscripts get one glimpse of the front lines, assuming they live through it, they promptly head for the hills:

CNN spoke to six commanders and officers who are or were until recently fighting or
supervising units in the area. All six said desertion and insubordination are becoming a
widespread problem, especially among newly recruited soldiers.
"They go to the positions once and if they survive, they never return. They either leave their
positions, refuse to go into battle, or try to find a way to leave the army," he added.

Who can blame them? Desertion is now so common and so understandable that Ukraine decriminalized first-time desertion offenses, and officers don’t even report many desertions anyway...
4118   RayAmerica   2024 Sep 9, 10:00am  

Patrick says


"They go to the positions once and if they survive, they never return. They either leave their
positions, refuse to go into battle, or try to find a way to leave the army," he added.

First, the Ukraine Government has to kidnap 'recruits' off of the streets. Then, they have to deal with a high number of desertions and surrender by their soldiers who quickly realize that they face almost certain death.

This all translates into more evidence that indicates American (officially) boots on the ground will soon be required. Perhaps that was the goal in the first place by our Neo-Con war planners?

My guess is that the powers behind the throne will see to it that, by whatever means necessary, the Neo-Con puppet Kamala Harris will be installed as POTUS, and then about 6 months into her term and in order to 'save Ukraine and the rest of Europe,' blah, blah, blah ... Ukraine will get an ever increasing number of American troops in order to fight their war (that WE created). The infusion of American troops will be as a result of some major false flag event that is typically needed to get the gullible American public in the mood for war. Once again, you'll see Ukraine flags flying, while teary eyed old men bravely declare that they wish they could go and fight those evil Russians. We might even see the despicable warmonger sissy Lindsey Graham riding on top of an Abrams tank. By the way, is Michael Dukakis still alive?
4119   Patrick   2024 Sep 9, 11:35am  

https://www.rt.com/news/603708-ukraine-istanbul-us-nuland/


Nuland confirms West told Zelensky to abandon peace deal

The US, UK and other backers of Ukraine told Kiev to reject the deal reached at the 2022 Istanbul peace talks with Russia, former US under secretary of state Victoria Nuland has said.

In an interview with Russian journalist Mikhail Zygar, former editor-in-chief of the liberal news channel Dozhd, which aired on Thursday, Nuland was asked to comment on reports that the peace process between Moscow and Kiev in late March and early April 2022 collapsed after then-British Prime Minister Boris Johnson traveled to Ukraine and told Vladimir Zelensky to keep fighting.
4121   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Sep 14, 9:30am  

The_Deplorable says




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkE2-f8lVIw

that’s one guy, plenty of polish politicians say opposite of that.
4122   Patrick   2024 Sep 15, 5:27pm  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/the-origins-of-us-involvement-in


Ukraine is essentially a giant CIA base, posing as a sovereign nation.

The CIA moved into Ukraine after the fall of the Soviet Union, looking to take advantage of the lawless and destabilized country, using it as an offshore proxy, outside the scope of US oversight.

It began with the Nunn-Lugar Act in 1991, and then carried on into 2005, when then Senators Obama and Lugar visited Ukraine, to inspect the former Soviet bio, chemical, and nuclear facilities (pictured below), and then added Ukraine to the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and began turning these former Soviet facilities into “defensive research facilities”, which opened the door for US contractors to establish their foothold in Ukraine, and set up their money laundering and racketeering operations, under the guise of “foreign aid”.

Then the CIA funded Nazi militant groups in Ukraine which led to the outbreak of civil war in 2014 in the Donbas. Amidst the chaos, the US State Department, via Victoria Nuland, leveraged the situation to install US-loyal puppets, including the infamous leaked phone call between her and fellow State Department bureaucrat Geoffrey Pyatt, about ensuring “their guy” Yatsenuik, was installed as Prime Minister. The State Department, in tandem with the CIA, covertly took control of Ukraine via Color Revolution in 2014.
4123   RayAmerica   2024 Sep 16, 8:11am  

Recall how the mainstream media, aka, the Ministry of Propaganda, were slobbering all over each other while claiming that the Abrams Tanks would be a game changer in Ukraine?

Ukraine rapidly losing US Abrams tanks – media

Military Watch estimates that 20 of the 31 units supplied to Kiev have been destroyed, badly damaged or captured

https://www.rt.com/news/604126-military-watch-ukraine-losing-abrams-tanks/

PS: Ukraine soldiers continue to refer to the Abrams as 'under armored, poorly functioning death traps,' while the Russians refer to them as 'junk that are made out of tin,' proven by the fact that they are easily taken out by Russian drones whenever they enter the battlefield.
4124   RayAmerica   2024 Sep 16, 8:19am  

Alleged would-be Trump assassin recruited for Ukraine’s International Legion

Before he was caught with an AK-47 on a golf course near Trump, Ryan Routh went to Kiev to fight for Ukraine’s military and recruit for its International Legion. Routh told US media he “had partners meeting with [Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense] every week.”

NOTE: article contains video of Routh being interviewed in Ukraine, whereby he expresses his fanatical support: 'Every able bodied man in the entire world should be here fighting for Ukraine.'
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/09/15/suspect-trump-assassination-plot-recruited-for-ukraines-international-legion/

4125   WookieMan   2024 Sep 16, 10:34am  

RayAmerica says

PS: Ukraine soldiers continue to refer to the Abrams as 'under armored, poorly functioning death traps,' while the Russians refer to them as 'junk that are made out of tin,' proven by the fact that they are easily taken out by Russian drones whenever they enter the battlefield.

Not the best source. US media has just stopped reporting on the whole war. Every side has a propaganda wing to it.

Also, the US really doesn't need tanks. There's no chance of anyone making landfall in a US attack. It's a racket to get government buddies contracts. So it wouldn't surprise me if ours were inferior.

That said, Russia cannot even take a tiny swath of land. They've lost a lot in the Black Sea fleet. Tanks are relevant, but they don't win wars. Pushing 3 years at this point.

Fact is there's really no need for war. Skip the cost or quality of the tanks. The fucking transportation costs are astronomical to get them to Ukraine.
4126   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Sep 16, 11:01am  

WookieMan says


Also, the US really doesn't need tanks. There's no chance of anyone making landfall in a US attack. It's a racket to get government buddies contracts. So it wouldn't surprise me if ours were inferior


Yup. These particular tanks were to fight a Soviet invasion in 1990s Europe. They were last successfully used in Operation Desert Storm. But that was against shitty Iraquis.

Strykers are better for use in the US. Yet the recent Civil War flick showed mostly Abrams. Stupid.

I think Strykers are able to avade drone attacks better than tanks, too.
4127   Eric Holder   2024 Sep 17, 2:04pm  

Explain this to me:

KYIV, Sept 16 (Reuters) - Ukraine said on Monday it had asked the United Nations and the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to join humanitarian efforts in Russia's Kursk region following a cross-border incursion by Ukrainian forces.

Ukraine's army remains in the Kursk region more than a month after launching the assault, in which President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says Kyiv has taken control of about 100 settlements. Russia's Defence Ministry said on Monday its forces had regained control of two more villages.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha said he had instructed his ministry to invite the UN and ICRC to work in the Kursk region on Sunday. The ministry confirmed that it had issued the requests.

"Ukraine is ready to facilitate their work and prove its adherence to international humanitarian law," Sybiha said on X after visiting the Sumy region, from where Ukrainian forces launched the cross-borer attack.

He said the Ukrainian army was ensuring humanitarian assistance and safe passage to civilians in the Kursk region.

The Foreign Ministry said the invitations had been sent to the ICRC and UN, "taking into account the humanitarian situation and the need to properly ensure basic human rights in the territory of the Kursk region."

It said it had asked the ICRC to monitor Ukraine's compliance with the principles of international humanitarian law.
It was not immediately clear how or whether the UN or ICRC had responded.

Russia's state-run TASS news agency quoted Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov as saying such statements were "provocative". He made clear Moscow, which began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, expected the UN and ICRC not to accept the invitations.


Does OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER actually want Nazis to continue lampshading his subjects?

Where's that pucture with Kursk and Dumb Ass in a pool?
4128   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Sep 17, 2:14pm  

Eric Holder says

Does OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER actually want Nazis to continue lampshading his subjects?


Biden wants the Azov Ukey Nazi's to keep selling lampshades on eBay?

Wow!




4129   RWSGFY   2024 Sep 17, 3:02pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says


Eric Holder says


Does OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER actually want Nazis to continue lampshading his subjects?


Biden wants the Azov Ukey Nazi's to keep selling lampshades on eBay?

Wow!



Biden told OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER to forbid UN and Red Cross to monitor the treatment of his subjects in the Nazi-occupied Kursk People's Republic?

Wow indeed!

PS. Here's the pic:

4130   Patrick   2024 Sep 18, 11:37am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/alice-in-spyland-wednesday-september


Follow the money! Last week, Politico ran a whiny story headlined, “European governments criticize IMF trip to Russia as ‘propaganda win’ for Putin.”

If there is one kind of win that corporate media hates more than any other kind of victory or success, it is a propaganda win. They just can’t stand it. Please, they always cry, anything but a propaganda win. Not that. Not for Putin.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is a Washington-based international finance agency formed in 1994. Since then, its octopus-like tendrils have spread worldwide, making massive “development loans” and dishing out “financial advice” to other countries with more strings attached than a concert hall harp section.

Although the IMF is ostensibly neutral, its strings always benefit U.S. interests.

When Russia first invaded Ukraine in 2022, the IMF’s tendrils shrank away from that country, as part of Joe Biden’s backfiring sanctions regime. But last week, the IMF announced it was sending a delegation to Moscow to renew relationships. Although the announcement was light on details, looney Ukraine supporters did not fail to detect the obvious message. Politico:

Ukraine's backers argue that by visiting Russia, the IMF is sending the
message that relations with Moscow are normalizing despite its continued
unprovoked aggression in Ukraine.

Haha, unprovoked. The point is, the wheels are coming off the Ukraine bus. First, it was the Ryan Routh attack, which has done and will do more to tank Ukraine’s prospects than any other single event. Routh’s unhinged Ukraine support mingles with his assassination attempt, to create a politically unpalatable narrative stew.

The IMF’s new mission to Russia is the kind of behind-the-scenes stuff that says more than a hundred headlines. Follow the money, and the money is going to see President Putin.

Russia’s economy has done terrific in the last two years, breaking all previous records, in the absence of any IMF “help.” They’d be crazier than the CIA wants you to think Ryan Routh is, if they got back in bed with the grasping financial agency. The IMF has a lot of selling to do.
4131   Ceffer   2024 Sep 18, 10:56pm  

LOL! Maybe it was cheaper to send the F16s to Ukraine than to mothball them.

https://rumble.com/v5fi9o5-total-disaster-ukraine-lost-its-third-f-16-fighter-jetrussia-captured-the-c.html
4133   Ceffer   2024 Sep 20, 3:02pm  

This is awful. Their organs weren't even harvest-able. What a waste when the customers are waiting.

https://t.me/GitmoTV/31762

4134   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Sep 21, 12:29am  

Once again, German tanks burn in Kursk:


4136   Patrick   2024 Sep 23, 8:09am  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/wheezing-past-the-graveyard


According to Col. Wilkerson, Sec’y of Defense Lloyd Austin told the “president” to his face that there will be no flinging of US-supplied long-range missiles from Ukraine “deep into Russia,” as the neocon-infested White House been chattering about endlessly. Wiser heads deep in the DOD HQ have decided the matter. Lump it, if you must, Tony Blinken and Jake Sullivan. The Russians’ “red-line” on such a caper is so wide you can see it from the International Space Station — that is, if you’re an astronaut marooned up there due to combined NASA/Boeing incompetence. . . but that’s another story.

Meanwhile, UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer was all revved up for the missile operation and flew to Washington for a one-to-one meet-up with “JB” to get the go-ahead. The Brits are avid for another World War. The last two went so well for them that they kissed their vast empire goodbye. Now they want to kiss goodbye their sceptered isle itself, which has almost no economy left and is overrun by cultural hostiles who are not into Shakespeare. The Brits’ floundering government is a posse of monomaniacs fixated on defeating Russia which, at this point in history, is like a dormouse (Glis glis) facing down a brown bear (Ursus arctos).

“Joe Biden,” reportedly “furious” at losing his executive power, was constrained to tell Mr. Starmer that the missile strike op was off, which left the UK PM miffed that he had crossed the ocean for no reason. Who knows, the Brits are so nuts these days that perhaps they’ll try to pull it off on their own. Mr. Zelensky, the no-longer-elected leader of Ukraine was begging them to try it because Ukraine has nothing left. NATO as a whole really has nothing left, either. Not much of a combined military, scant munitions left in the cupboard, and no will to wage war among the depressed citizens of its member nations.

There is nothing left except to come to terms on a settlement that will leave Ukraine not a member of NATO. The entire affair has been a humiliation for NATO and America, especially for the “Joe Biden” management team (whatever it actually consists of these days). The longer they refuse to engage in talks, the less of Ukraine will be left as a sovereign entity — having proven to the world that its sovereignty rests solely on its capacity to be used as a catspaw by the American neocon / intel blob. You’re reminded that for seventy years prior to 2014, Ukraine was not a problem for anyone until we made it a problem on-purpose — our purpose being idiotic and malicious — and Ukraine could, in theory, revert to not being a problem for anyone again. Wouldn’t that be wonderful?
4139   Patrick   2024 Sep 26, 8:21am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/stormy-weather-thursday-sept-26-2024


Volodymyr Zelensky is Ukraine’s former president and now its unelected Martial Law Coordinator, a position invented in real time out of necessity after Zelensky’s term ended without holding new elections. Corporate media still calls him the “president,” since he wields the powers of a president, but that title is not even close to accurate.

With U.S. elections looming, and uncomfortable questions about Zelensky’s authority cropping up like spring Ukrainian sunflowers, Curruptocrat Zelensky quickly developed a secret “Victory Plan” that he plans to present to President Cabbage today in Washington.

But Ukraine is a leaky ship of state, and anonymous bureaucrats are telling eager reporters what to expect. In addition to lots more money and more weapons, Zelensky’s amazing Victory Plan is expected to rest on two main prongs.

First, he wants the United States’ help in targeting Russian cities with U.S.-supplied and U.S.-directed missiles. This, Zelensky apparently believes, will tree the Russian Bear. Zelensky thinks the Russian people are weak-minded and cowardly and, if they are subjected to devastating missile attacks, they’ll overthrow the evil dictator Putin and peace will descend on Europe like a dove.

In other words, Zelensky expects the Russians to defeat Russia.

Of course, Russia could also respond by bombing Kiev into a smoking ash heap, which it has patiently resisted doing for almost three years now. Despite Ukraine relentlessly trying to bomb Russia’s Crimean bridge, Russia has also held back from taking out Ukraine’s six bridges across the massive Dnieper river, which bisects the country. That operation would probably only take an hour.

So the plan also includes a second, defensive prong. Zelensky reportedly also wants immediate NATO membership, to protect Ukraine from Russian retribution for strikes on its civilian centers. Russia, Zelensky thinks, won’t risk a war with NATO, which would be required to directly intervene for Ukraine if it were a member.

In other words, Zelensky sees Israel’s deal and wants the same thing for Ukraine.

But Ukraine is not Israel. Nor is Russia comparable to Hezbollah and Hamas. And yesterday, the escalatory ladder extended more when President Putin announced changes to Russia’s nuclear doctrine that would allow a thermonuclear response to any massive missile or drone attack against Russian cities. He also said if a nuclear state helps Ukraine, it would be considered a “joint attack” against Russia. ...
4141   Ceffer   2024 Sep 26, 4:44pm  

Of course, there is that huge Mockingbird fake news lobby with its trash talking subscriber group (not naming names) who beg to differ. When somebody tells you they want everything you believe to be a lie, and you still believe them, what does that mean?



https://t.me/hkitabayashi/1572
4142   Ceffer   2024 Sep 27, 6:06pm  

Guess it WAS cheaper to send those F-16s to Ukraine than to mothball them.

https://t.me/hkitabayashi/1591
4145   WookieMan   2024 Sep 29, 6:07pm  

Valid point. Thing is it just doesn't matter. No one actually cares besides college students and Democrat war mongers. Who would have thought....

Outside of using nukes, Russians are useless dip shits. So are Ukrainians. They could have resolved this themselves almost a decade ago. I say let them have at it. Who cares?
4146   Ceffer   2024 Sep 29, 6:11pm  

The_Deplorable says





https://x.com/ivan_8848/status/1839434787070644636

Foreign Secret Agent Man Blinken's Satanic inversion lie re-writing history that can still be fact checked.

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