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AmericanKulak says

Yeah, I have friends and family tell me that Epstein was actually pretty stupid, that he was put into the position and some other guy was his manager, then Ghislaine became the real head.

Maybe it was set up for him, but he wasn't stupid. The USVI is an American territory. No passport needed for kids or anything. No private landing strip. They all flew into STT and so did Epstein's private jet.. PROVE that anyone actually went to little St. James. You can't. They can just say they went to Saint Thomas, stayed at the Ritz and then boated over to the island. Zero tracking if you stay in USVI waters.

They thought they'd never get caught, but the locals caught on. I've never thought this was a blackmail thing and this is people I've talked to that met him in the USVI. This was a straight up child sex ring or at least young girls and I assume boys that were kidnapped. He rocked up the beaches with boulders so there was no public access to the high water line on Little St. James. Basically a fence.

I don't condone it at all, but it was a brilliant set up if you're into fucking kids. The no passport thing is key AND you're just going to Saint Thomas. No verifiable proof you went to the island. So no. Epstein was not stupid. Even if someone else set it up he was pretty brilliant for that line of work on the execution of it. Sick. I don't like serial killers, but some of them were extremely smart. Crime is sick, but you have to give credit for those that can pull it off. As long as it doesn't involve me.

WookieMan says

Maybe it was set up for him, but he wasn't stupid. The USVI is an American territory. No passport needed for kids or anything. No private landing strip. They all flew into STT and so did Epstein's private jet.. PROVE that anyone actually went to little St. James. You can't. They can just say they went to Saint Thomas, stayed at the Ritz and then boated over to the island. Zero tracking if you stay in USVI waters.

If that was his idea, I think is what I'm hearing.

The whole think with him being a financial genius and all this other crap was invented, he was a useful idot, and ended up being handled by Ghislaine. Her or her controllers were responsible for the Setup.

AmericanKulak says

The whole think with him being a financial genius and all this other crap was invented, he was a useful idot, and ended up being handled by Ghislaine. Her or her controllers were responsible for the Setup.

You're not wrong. Most men are manipulated by women. I don't get fucking adolescents as a grown man unless you're of same/similar age. I did it. Even as a 21 yer old I'd never fuck a 15 year old. Too creepy and illegal in most countries. 40 year old and a 25 year old, that's a different game and legal.

I also wonder if Epstein or whoever was running the show lied about the age of the girls? Maybe they were legal and just picked chicks that looked younger? My buddy married a chick that looked 14 but was 20 while he was 25. There's so much to this story. I gotta trust the locals I know. Not Americans, but USVI citizens. They all knew what was going on.

This list will only be released under one of two conditions:

1. Enough time has passed that everyone involved is long dead and has no kin that is powerful enough to object to their family name being associated with pedos.

2. Someone leaks it.

3. Never they would rather spend the rest of their lives in guided bunkers with nuclear winter than a day in prison with the truth known.

Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and more—these are just some of the high-profile figures who allegedly flew in convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's notorious "Lolita Express" private jet.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-flew-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-plane-full-list-people-named-1654827

I used to have a subscription to Time, Newsweek, and Popular Mechanics.

I was young and naive.

Onvacation says

Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and more—these are just some of the high-profile figures who allegedly flew in convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's notorious "Lolita Express" private jet.

Not Trump. In fact, Trump banned Epstein from all Trump properties. Bill Clinton and Bill Gates flew to Epstein's Island quite often, and the media is trying to lump Trump with those two by saying Trump flew on Epstein's plane when Trump may have taken a ride to NY or even just rode on a plane formerly owned by Epstein.

HeadSet says

Not Trump.

I know. I find it amusing that they put Trump first on that list.

List doesn't matter guys. Not gonna keep beating this horse dead. There's no proof that anyone even went to the island. No runway on the island. They took boats. Yes a helipad, even then they don't have to have a passenger manifesto from STT. It's a territory. No customs involved. You just get off the plane and go on your merry way.

If you've flown domestically on a private plane there's nothing. You just get on. No one could prove anything. Public can't get on the island.

Got to get over the fact you'll ever get to what happened on that island. Bad things likely. But you'll never get a list or people charged.

WookieMan says

There's no proof that anyone even went to the island.

Riight.

WookieMan says

runway on the island.

Helipad. And the Lolita Express (and it's flights were) real.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

WookieMan says

runway on the island.

Helipad. And the Lolita Express (and it's flights were) real.

Yes. They landed at STT. An international airport that has to report those things. A chopper or boat takes off to the island nothing has to be reported. It's impossible to prove without Epstein alive because he's the witness.

There's no runway in that image and it's easy enough to land a helicopter almost anywhere without trees. Doesn't change they land at STT and could fly or boat over there. They just have to give ATC intentions, not destination to fly VFR. There's no customs. You get off the plane and go on your way. No way you could land a business jet on that island having been around it. Shit St. John, USVI doesn't have a landing strip. 2nd biggest USVI.

The list doesn't matter. They flew to STT. They could have gone to the Westin on St. John or other hotels or villas and Epstein just gave them a ride. We'll never know. Until someone that was abused there comes forward, it's a lost dream of people on the list getting charged. Was the perfect setup. All the victims are likely dead anyway. Tie some concrete to them and drop them 20 miles into the Caribbean. Evidence gone. Maxwell is the biggest conundrum why she's still alive. She did everything is my theory. She sees Epstein dead and refuses to talk. She seems stone cold bitch level. So she might live.

The_Deplorable says

This would be interesting. Still wouldn't prove anything though. Epstein Island is iron clad. Nothing will come of it ever. Diddy is different. I don't think he's all that intelligent. I was a teen when his music was big. As a musician, it was shit.

This is along the lines of Weinstein. He was just a puppet and played along to make millions. Who was pulling the strings on a retard? That's the bigger question. Just because he was famous doesn't mean other famous people want to hang out with him. There's another ring leader that we'll never find out about. Blackmail is a bitch. Again though it doesn't mean people that hung with him did anything wrong. I don't like him, but innocent until proven guilty.

I'm not even paying attention to Diddy.

It's just another Epstein List we'll never see.

It depends on who got the blackmail goods and will they release them. Epstein was closed tight as a drum. You knew that when the FBI was going over that island that nothing was going to get out, every 'reveal' was peripheral to the official organs, it all became top top secret. Whether Diddy becomes Epstein Redux remains to be seen. Of course, there are intimations that Epstein himself may ultimately appear to give testimony later, it's all very weirding.

They are implying that the Diddy stuff cannot be buried in the same way, but I guess we'll see. Seeing KamalaToe's pornos would be a blast.

The FIB has that list for themselves, as does the CIA.