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BTW, why the great champion of American worker - The Elon Musk - is not bringing Tesla factories back from overseas, namely Chyna?

Just asking.

RWSGFY says

BTW, why the great champion of American worker - The Elon Musk - is not bringing Tesla factories back from overseas, namely Chyna?

Just asking.

Aren't the Teslas built in China sold in China? Are any of the Teslas sold in America imported?

HeadSet says

RWSGFY says

BTW, why the great champion of American worker - The Elon Musk - is not bringing Tesla factories back from overseas, namely Chyna?

Just asking.

Aren't the Teslas built in China sold in China? Are any of the Teslas sold in America imported?

What does it matter? Build it here - sell in Chyna.

Still laughing my ass off that the "California Coastal Commission" is trying to stop Elon from launching.

More scary was Biden suing Elon for not hiring non-citizen Chinese Nationals on Starship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgMl662Av8o
"All In" - Elon Musk's BRUTALLY Honest Interview With Tucker Carlson (2024)

AmericanKulak says

Still laughing my ass off that the "California Coastal Commission" is trying to stop Elon from launching.

I get what you're saying, but I don't find it funny. It's a state that basically controls the country. I think the electoral college works, but one state shouldn't get that much pull on voting. You're almost 25% to victory if you get CA. Some local commission shouldn't stop space launches. At some point I do think the federal government needs to step in on CA.

Most are CA people here. Even if right leaning, most don't know how the rest of the country works. I've been to every state, not a flight layover, 1-20+ times in the lower 48. FL, AZ, MT being the most with actual stays for days if not a year. Actually TN as well. MO, WI and MI as well. Not a brag. I meet people and chat.

I love tech, but that's basically all CA is good for. It's why I'm on this website. I buy almost nothing that says made in CA. I just get the tags that say my camping chair will give me cancer.

AmericanKulak says

Still laughing my ass off that the "California Coastal Commission" is trying to stop Elon from launching.

More scary was Biden suing Elon for not hiring non-citizen Chinese Nationals on Starship.

Mojave is a FAA certified spaceport and not on the coast. He can launch from there and no Coastal Commision can do anything about it.

Off the subject, I'm in Santa Clara for a few hours and there are a lot of "Teslarians" riding around.

WookieMan says

You're almost 25% to victory if you get CA. Some local commission shouldn't stop space launches. At some point I do think the federal government needs to step in on CA.

California needs to be broken in at least half.

Virginia was ridiculous until the Civil War. At some point, say 40 Electoral Votes, a state must be broken up.

HeadSet says

Aren't the Teslas built in China sold in China? Are any of the Teslas sold in America imported?

No Chinese models are sold in the US. Chinese models are primarily sold in Asia, Africa and parts of Europe.

BTW - got this new beauty coming next month in the new Quicksilver color.

Texas build using their new paint shop in Austin! Most American made car in the land.

AmericanKulak says

Virginia was ridiculous until the Civil War.

True, we sawed off the ridiculous part.

socal2 says

BTW - got this new beauty coming next month in the new Quicksilver color.

To each their own. Not judging. That car is ugly AF. Wouldn't work for people that have kids. No utility. What do people actually do? I pull and put heavy stuff in trailers and have 5-8 passengers. That car is literally useless to me beside looking like shit.

I don't know, I'm handy. I rarely hire people out to do anything for me. I need a car that can help with that. No EV make/model can do what I need to be done. By a long shot too. I also don't just sit at home. Not saying you can't like them, they just don't make sense for a large portion of the population.

HeadSet says

True, we sawed off the ridiculous part.

The fighting part. The rest is Admins and Bureaucrats.

WookieMan says

Wouldn't work for people that have kids. No utility. What do people actually do?

My existing Tesla works absolutely fine for me (wife, 2 kids and a mother-in-law) and the majority of Americans that will never need to tow a thing or drive 10,000 miles a month in the frozen tundra.

My new lease payment is only $430 a month. I will save over $150/month in gas on top of that. You can't find a better deal to drive one of the planet's most advanced and FUN cars to operate.

socal2 says

WookieMan says

Wouldn't work for people that have kids. No utility. What do people actually do?

My existing Tesla works absolutely fine for me (wife, 2 kids and a mother-in-law) and the majority of Americans that will never need to tow a thing or drive 10,000 miles a month in the frozen tundra.

My new lease payment is only $430 a month. I will save over $150/month in gas on top of that. You can't find a better deal to drive one of the planet's most advanced and FUN cars to operate.

We don't pay gas. Get reimbursed monthly. Tow weekly. Camp frequently. Get off road to an extent. Just had 8 people in my wife's 4 Runner for the Chicago Marathon this weekend. One less car in the city.

We drive a lot and there's no chargers here in IL or WI without going 30 minutes out of your way and then waiting another 30-60 for a charge. We don't live in an urban area. Our time with worth exponentially more than a fun ride.

I can install the service to charge an EV in my home no problem. M-F fine, that would work. Charge at night, come the weekend, nope. It's not uncommon to travel 400 miles for us pulling a trailer or camper. Not one EV can do that by a long shot. We'd need to stop 3-4 times for a full charge. I'll golf with buddies. 4 dudes and 4 sets of clubs ain't gonna work and we'll drive 100 miles to golf. The human and golf club weight would easily cut 20% off the range.

Two of the people that were at the marathon with us had Teslas. I've driven one of theirs. They're middle of the road on the them. Fun to drive. Range anxiety. They live near where I do. One couldn't find a charge and ran out of battery. Not every place is CA. There really aren't that many chargers except in the city.

Even rural I can walk to a gas station in 5-10 minutes if I ran out of gas. Can't carry electric in a can. I'll be sticking with ICE vehicles the rest of my life. Even when the kids move out.

WookieMan says

I'll be sticking with ICE vehicles the rest of my life. Even when the kids move out.

You already own a battery operated golf cart!

Besides - by the time we are old and shouldn't be driving, we will be hauled around in Tesla's autonomous Cybercabs. They will probably have some Uber drones for greater distances too.

socal2 says

You already own a battery operated golf cart!

Yes. A cart. It's not a vehicle. There's no acronym for golf cart. It's a cart. It's not ATV, UTV, SUV, etc.

socal2 says

Besides - by the time we are old and shouldn't be driving, we will be hauled around in Tesla's autonomous Cybercabs. They will probably have some Uber drones for greater distances too.

No. I need to drive. I need control. I don't trust anything. My eyes works just fine. There are t-bone accidents that you cannot avoid regardless of a 1,000 sensors. I live in an area with cornfields at rural intersections. There's no way a Tesla can stop that. You have to get partially in the intersection when the cross traffic doesn't stop. Then people blow lights and stop signs. I'd have no faith.

Elon held a ~1 hour Pro-Trump Townhall in Pennsylvania earlier today:
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847024043536404569

Featuring a dark MAGA hat and US Flag backdrop.