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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Sep 27, 5:51am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Sep 27, 5:51am
Immigration does not work, not even economically’ – German government needs €10 billion more in welfare payments than originally predicted for 2025
The German federal government has “miscalculated” billions in welfare payments, known as citizens’ money, with their initial estimate of €36 billion far short of the €46 billion reportedly needed.
In documents obtained by Bild newspaper, the German labor ministry assumes an average of 2.9 million people are in need of welfare parents in the documents for the “2025 budget,” dated from August 2024. However, this document indicates that the expenditure on standard rates and accommodation costs is expected to total €45.6 billion, which is a far cry from the €36 billion set in the 2025 citizen’s allowance budget.
The huge discrepancy has sparked outrage, but Hubertus Heil’s (SPD) labor ministry told Bild that the figures published “are not comprehensible and are methodologically based on several false assumptions… For example, a significant portion of the costs of accommodation are to be covered by the municipalities and are therefore not relevant to the federal budget in the amount stated.”
However, Heil’s denial did not specify how far off Bild’s figures were, and notably, Bild was citing internal documents from the ministry itself.
The huge sums paid out due to citizens’ money has become a politically explosive subject, first due to the enormous costs it is placing on the German taxpayers, second due to the fact that the German economy is facing a worker shortage, and third due to the huge number of foreigners taking advantage of this welfare system, as half of all recipients are foreigners and many of the others who are German citizens also have a migration background.
“Immigration doesn’t work, not even economically. And if one were to differentiate between Germans based on their migration background, the picture would be even more devastating,” MEP Maximilian Krah, who is a member of the AfD but remains unaffiliated in the European Parliament, wrote on X. He shared a graph showing how few Germans are actually receiving welfare payments.
However, he is not the only one calling into question Heil’s numbers. Most recently, the Federal Audit Office also cast doubt on Heil’s budget, stating that the labor ministry’s figures could only happen as budgeted if “600,000 people entitled to benefits would stop receiving them altogether” in 2025. These experts complained at the time that this was “not very realistic.”
Other parties are also attacking Heil. CDU’s group vice-chairman Jens Spahn said the matter “bordered on deliberate deception.”
Meanwhile, budget spokesman for the CDU/CSU parliamentary group, Christian Haase, said: “Heil is deliberately budgeting for false figures in order to conceal the problems with the citizens’ allowance,”
“This is a scandal,” he added.
CDU general secretary Carsten Linnemann said the ruling left-liberal government “continues to lie to itself, the budget will blow up in its face.”
Even the Free Democrats (FDP), who belong to the ruling government, slammed the budget figures. FDP politician Torsten Herbst said he expected “the labor minister to present realistic figures in his draft budget.”
However, some of the harshest statements came from the AfD, which wrote on social media: “Labor Minister Hubertus Heil (SPD) suddenly presents a new budget gap of almost €10 billion in the citizen’s allowance. According to the minister’s documents, his department expects citizen’s allowance costs of almost €46 billion for 2025, although only €36 billion were officially reported.”
The party is now recommending mass deportations totaling 1.3 million people to plug the budget hole, which it claims would bring the welfare payments back in line with the original sum budgeted.
“It must be remembered that around half of the citizen’s allowance recipients are foreign citizens! Simply by deporting the approximately one million Syrians (as of the end of 2023) who no longer have a reason to flee, the citizen’s allowance costs could be reduced enormously. The same applies to the approximately 300,000 foreigners who are required to leave the country (as of mid-2024).
“The Federal Audit Office had already cast doubt on the Minister of Labor’s sugar-coated figures weeks ago, stating that the figures would only be correct if the number of citizens’ allowance recipients fell by around 600,000 in 2025. Either Heil really miscalculated in an amateurish way or – which is much more likely – he deliberately wants to mislead the population. In both cases, such a Minister of Labor is completely unacceptable and underlines that the SPD does not care about our country.”
https://rmx.news/article/immigration-does-not-work-not-even-economically-german-government-needs-e10-billion-more-in-welfare-payments-than-originally-predicted-for-2025/
The German federal government has “miscalculated” billions in welfare payments, known as citizens’ money, with their initial estimate of €36 billion far short of the €46 billion reportedly needed.
In documents obtained by Bild newspaper, the German labor ministry assumes an average of 2.9 million people are in need of welfare parents in the documents for the “2025 budget,” dated from August 2024. However, this document indicates that the expenditure on standard rates and accommodation costs is expected to total €45.6 billion, which is a far cry from the €36 billion set in the 2025 citizen’s allowance budget.
The huge discrepancy has sparked outrage, but Hubertus Heil’s (SPD) labor ministry told Bild that the figures published “are not comprehensible and are methodologically based on several false assumptions… For example, a significant portion of the costs of accommodation are to be covered by the municipalities and are therefore not relevant to the federal budget in the amount stated.”
However, Heil’s denial did not specify how far off Bild’s figures were, and notably, Bild was citing internal documents from the ministry itself.
The huge sums paid out due to citizens’ money has become a politically explosive subject, first due to the enormous costs it is placing on the German taxpayers, second due to the fact that the German economy is facing a worker shortage, and third due to the huge number of foreigners taking advantage of this welfare system, as half of all recipients are foreigners and many of the others who are German citizens also have a migration background.
“Immigration doesn’t work, not even economically. And if one were to differentiate between Germans based on their migration background, the picture would be even more devastating,” MEP Maximilian Krah, who is a member of the AfD but remains unaffiliated in the European Parliament, wrote on X. He shared a graph showing how few Germans are actually receiving welfare payments.
However, he is not the only one calling into question Heil’s numbers. Most recently, the Federal Audit Office also cast doubt on Heil’s budget, stating that the labor ministry’s figures could only happen as budgeted if “600,000 people entitled to benefits would stop receiving them altogether” in 2025. These experts complained at the time that this was “not very realistic.”
Other parties are also attacking Heil. CDU’s group vice-chairman Jens Spahn said the matter “bordered on deliberate deception.”
Meanwhile, budget spokesman for the CDU/CSU parliamentary group, Christian Haase, said: “Heil is deliberately budgeting for false figures in order to conceal the problems with the citizens’ allowance,”
“This is a scandal,” he added.
CDU general secretary Carsten Linnemann said the ruling left-liberal government “continues to lie to itself, the budget will blow up in its face.”
Even the Free Democrats (FDP), who belong to the ruling government, slammed the budget figures. FDP politician Torsten Herbst said he expected “the labor minister to present realistic figures in his draft budget.”
However, some of the harshest statements came from the AfD, which wrote on social media: “Labor Minister Hubertus Heil (SPD) suddenly presents a new budget gap of almost €10 billion in the citizen’s allowance. According to the minister’s documents, his department expects citizen’s allowance costs of almost €46 billion for 2025, although only €36 billion were officially reported.”
The party is now recommending mass deportations totaling 1.3 million people to plug the budget hole, which it claims would bring the welfare payments back in line with the original sum budgeted.
“It must be remembered that around half of the citizen’s allowance recipients are foreign citizens! Simply by deporting the approximately one million Syrians (as of the end of 2023) who no longer have a reason to flee, the citizen’s allowance costs could be reduced enormously. The same applies to the approximately 300,000 foreigners who are required to leave the country (as of mid-2024).
“The Federal Audit Office had already cast doubt on the Minister of Labor’s sugar-coated figures weeks ago, stating that the figures would only be correct if the number of citizens’ allowance recipients fell by around 600,000 in 2025. Either Heil really miscalculated in an amateurish way or – which is much more likely – he deliberately wants to mislead the population. In both cases, such a Minister of Labor is completely unacceptable and underlines that the SPD does not care about our country.”
https://rmx.news/article/immigration-does-not-work-not-even-economically-german-government-needs-e10-billion-more-in-welfare-payments-than-originally-predicted-for-2025/
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DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2024 Sep 27, 6:30am
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2024 Sep 27, 6:30am
Immigration pays for itself in Canada. It was designed to bring in young workers to bail out Canada's social welfare system. Of course, it has other costs.
But Europe brought in refugees who don't work. Except maybe Ukranians.
But Europe brought in refugees who don't work. Except maybe Ukranians.
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WookieMan
2024 Sep 27, 7:28am
WookieMan
2024 Sep 27, 7:28am
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says
I don't think they generally work. If they do, they suck at it. Had my buddy fill in my pool. His two guys were complete morons. Broke my fence. Snapped a 3/4" gas line on something I never asked them to take out, and I can speak enough Spanish for them to understand me.
Needless to say I had to shut off the gas to the entire house. My buddy is a dip shit too. Comes in and asks me, "what's that smell?" It's fucking natural gas dip shit. I'll be friends with him, but so many fuck ups on this job. Wife is refusing to pay him the second half. Kind of awkward but we're in agreement until he fixes the mess he made. Electric issues as well. Low voltage. He's probably the worst contractor I know.
If for some strange reason you know someone needing work in IL, I will tell you who to avoid. This guy. Tough as I like hanging out with him, but he sucks at his job. He buys and sells horses as his main income. He's a fun to hang out with idiot if that makes sense.
But Europe brought in refugees who don't work.
I don't think they generally work. If they do, they suck at it. Had my buddy fill in my pool. His two guys were complete morons. Broke my fence. Snapped a 3/4" gas line on something I never asked them to take out, and I can speak enough Spanish for them to understand me.
Needless to say I had to shut off the gas to the entire house. My buddy is a dip shit too. Comes in and asks me, "what's that smell?" It's fucking natural gas dip shit. I'll be friends with him, but so many fuck ups on this job. Wife is refusing to pay him the second half. Kind of awkward but we're in agreement until he fixes the mess he made. Electric issues as well. Low voltage. He's probably the worst contractor I know.
If for some strange reason you know someone needing work in IL, I will tell you who to avoid. This guy. Tough as I like hanging out with him, but he sucks at his job. He buys and sells horses as his main income. He's a fun to hang out with idiot if that makes sense.
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The_Deplorable
2024 Sep 28, 1:09pm
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says
The Globalist Nazis brought in the refugees, not Europe.
"But Europe brought in refugees who don't work."
The Globalist Nazis brought in the refugees, not Europe.
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AmericanKulak
2024 Sep 28, 1:45pm
AmericanKulak
2024 Sep 28, 1:45pm
The_Deplorable says
Once could be FIB entrapment. Twice and the guy likes tweens.
https://x.com/ivan_8848/status/1837623293613887576
Once could be FIB entrapment. Twice and the guy likes tweens.
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RWSGFY
2024 Oct 22, 9:16pm
RWSGFY
2024 Oct 22, 9:16pm
The_Deplorable says
The pedo sounds desperate. Was he ordered to work harder for his rubbles or else some tasty tea will be hand-delivered to him? 😂
https://x.com/ivan_8848/status/1837623293613887576
The pedo sounds desperate. Was he ordered to work harder for his rubbles or else some tasty tea will be hand-delivered to him? 😂
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Eric Holder
2024 Nov 8, 10:54am
Eric Holder
2024 Nov 8, 10:54am
Good. Sholtz is finally paying the pricer for being weak-ass pussy.
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mell
2024 Nov 8, 11:12am
Eric Holder says
Yes for not telling zelensky, xiden and the EU to get lost and resuming trade with russia. This war is over, watch how fast z tucks tail and peace and prosperity "erupts"
Good. Sholtz is finally paying the pricer for being weak-ass pussy.
Yes for not telling zelensky, xiden and the EU to get lost and resuming trade with russia. This war is over, watch how fast z tucks tail and peace and prosperity "erupts"
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-military-spd/germanys-spd-rejects-nato-2-percent-defense-spending-target-idUSKBN1AM001
Keep in mind, they laughed at Churchill, proudly declaring he was a warmongering eccentric, if not downright delusional, literally right up until the Sudentenland. And all the Liberals of the day claimed "Peace in Our Time."
We really should be thinking about how to divide Germany into Saxony, Prussia, Bavaria, Hannover, etc.and if Morganthau was right all along.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan
#Germany #FourthReich #EUArmy