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Office of Foreign Assets Control stole shares out of my brokerage account


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2025 Jan 8, 1:28pm   131 views  17 comments

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After the US successfully provoked Russia into invading Ukraine, the US government also confiscated shares in Russian companies from US citizens' brokerage accounts.

I had shares in YNDX and SBRCY, on the recommendation from a Ukrainian-Russian guy I know from working with him. Then in early 2022, poof gone from my Schwab account because the US State Department hates Russia so much.

Schwab tells me that the shares are being held in escrow for me, but I cannot get at them for the indefinite future. The part of the US government that did it is called OFAC:

https://ofac.treasury.gov/

This is little short of criminal action on the part of the US government, yet again. It's as if US citizens have no rights because a bunch of people in the State Department either don't like the competition for global power, or because those State Department employees making these decisions nurture an ethnic grievance against Russia for perceived persecution 150 years ago.

All of my mother's ancestors and half of my wife's ancestors were under Russian domination 150 years ago and I personally just don't care.

Our enemies are not in Russia. They are all in DC.

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1   Ingrid   2025 Jan 8, 1:31pm  

Absolutely. What has Russia ever done to the US? did they invade when the US annexed Hawaii? Did they invade when the US grabbed Puerto Rico? They even sold Alaska to the US. If they had been enemies, would they have done that? I think all this enemy talk is to keep the man in the street talking about something else than the govt being the real enemy, and those that keep Americans sick and enslaved.
2   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 8, 1:57pm  

You could probably sue under the 5th amendment. But it would cost you more than the shares are worth.
3   WookieMan   2025 Jan 8, 2:09pm  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

You could probably sue under the 5th amendment. But it would cost you more than the shares are worth.

Probably, or just be an ass hole and get to a decision maker. When I'm too lazy I'll have my son do it and just coach him on what to say on speaker phone. I swear too much. He's had to do it a lot lately. He does get the job done though more politely but still rude.

I'm polite in 99% of my interactions on the phone or in person. 1%, you get the Wookie shit show. I'll tear your soul out and make you wish you weren't born.
4   Ceffer   2025 Jan 8, 2:29pm  

It's called the 'Neocon Tax'. After all, you have ancient liabilities incurred by proxy against the Slavs.

Now you know.
5   🎂 stereotomy   2025 Jan 8, 2:41pm  

Ingrid says

Absolutely. What has Russia ever done to the US? did they invade when the US annexed Hawaii? Did they invade when the US grabbed Puerto Rico? They even sold Alaska to the US. If they had been enemies, would they have done that? I think all this enemy talk is to keep the man in the street talking about something else than the govt being the real enemy, and those that keep Americans sick and enslaved.

Not to mention the fact that during the Civil War, Russia kept England at bay from meddling in the conflict. For most of the history of the US, Russia had been a friend to the US. The Soviet era was an anomaly.
6   clambo   2025 Jan 8, 3:31pm  

Well that sucks. Losing money is always a bummer.
Russia has been ruled by maniacs forever; for several decades the USA spent gazillions of dollars defending Europe from Russian empire builders with invasion dreams.
Now the present maniac dictator finally started the war; luckily we aren't actually fighting it, just supplying weapons and money (like the USA did for England, Israel, even Russia once upon a time).
7   Eric Holder   2025 Jan 8, 3:37pm  

Patrick says

After the US successfully provoked Russia into invading Ukraine


ARE YOU SAYING THAT OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER IS SO STUPID AND GULLIBE AS TO BE LURED INTO A QUAGMIRE BY A SENILE POTATO? BLASPHEMY!!!!
8   Patrick   2025 Jan 8, 3:38pm  

I'm saying that the war was deliberately provoked by the US.

The US has repeatedly made promises to not move NATO eastward, but those were all lies.
9   Eric Holder   2025 Jan 8, 3:44pm  

clambo says

Now the present maniac dictator finally started the war; luckily we aren't actually fighting it, just supplying weapons and money (like the USA did for England, Israel, even Russia once upon a time).


Not money, but old stockpiles of weapons amassed to fight the Commies and which otherwise would have to be recycled which costs real money. As it stands now the lion share of "money" we spend is just accounting gimmick where old beaten down 1982 HMMV they used to sell at government auctions for $2K is now counted at replacement value of a modern troop carrier, i.e. at $200K+. And the best part? It all is covered by $300B in Soviet assets stuck in the West before the Belend of Kremlin started his genocidal war. Patrick will eventually get his money back from that pile too. If stupid Potato didn't stomp on the brakes in the fall of 2022 thus preventing kicking of the Red Army back behind legal borders, Patrick would already have his money. With interest.
10   Eric Holder   2025 Jan 8, 3:50pm  

Patrick says


The US has repeatedly made promises to not move NATO eastward, but those were all lies.


It's bullshit. It was refuted so many times it's not funny. If search worked worth shit the old thread where it was beated to death would be easy to find.

There is no written treaty (or any other official document for that matter) making any such promises. If you think there is, it should be easy to find. Heck, if there was, it would be published on the first page of TASS website. Alas, it's not.

Besides, are you saying that OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER IS SO STUPID AND GULLIBLE HE DIDN'T GET SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING IN WRITING? BLASPHEMY AGAIN!
12   WookieMan   2025 Jan 9, 2:16am  

1990? We're talking 35 years. Europe got into two world wars in that time frame. I don't hate Russia, but shit changes. Alliances change. I'm sure Russia has followed every agreement they made as well, said no one.

Europe will just have to go to war again. I think this time we stay out.
13   clambo   2025 Jan 9, 10:17am  

Slightly off the subject, a Prince Harry story herewith.
Around 2014 I visited my father who as 93 at the time and living in Florida.
He had a "financial adviser" at Morgan Stanley in Boca Raton.
My father allowed me to look at his financial stuff for the first time in my life. He was unsure and wanted my opinion.
The fucking asshole at Morgan Stanley bought stocks for my father in fucking Russian energy companies among other bullshit stuff.
Unfortunately, my father had signed a waiver allowing Morgan Stanley to invest his money in risky shit.
Normally, this is prohibited; FINRA doesn't like guys making unsuitable investments for people.
We later got all of the Morgan Stanley accounts transferred in kind to Vanguard and then I sold the Gazprom and other nonsense third world stuff.
Moral: emerging markets, third world, non-democratic domiciled companies are bad risks; don't buy them and if you do, kiss that money goodbye.
14   zzyzzx   2025 Jan 9, 10:51am  

Patrick says

The US has repeatedly made promises to not move NATO eastward, but those were all lies.


We promised the USSR that, but the USSR doesn't exist any more.
15   Patrick   2025 Jan 9, 10:53am  

clambo says

then I sold the Gazprom and other nonsense third world stuff


You were right to sell before the US government confiscated it.
16   Patrick   2025 Jan 9, 11:01am  

zzyzzx says

We promised the USSR that, but the USSR doesn't exist any more.


Looks to me like the promises were explicitly to Russia, which everyone understood was the core of the old Soviet Union anyway:

https://www.sott.net/article/371465-Declassified-US-documents-prove-Gorbachev-WAS-promised-no-eastward-NATO-expansion


For example, on February 6, 1990, when Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, "The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next."


https://newkontinent.org/nato-russia-and-the-other-broken-promise/


But there is a second, even less discussed, promise that the US made to Russia . . . and broke.

In May 1997, when President Clinton broke America’s promise and expanded NATO much more than an inch to the east, he at least signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act on Mutual Relations, which promised generally to “not consider each other as adversaries” in a “peaceful and undivided Europe” and promised explicitly that as NATO expanded east, there would be no “permanent stationing of substantial combat forces.” And even that, according to Gorbachev’s memoirs, verified by Jack F. Matlock Jr., who was the American ambassador to Russia at the time and was present at the meeting, was a repetition of the February 1990 promise, not just that NATO membership wouldn’t extend east, but that NATO troops would not extend east. The US obliterated this promise.

Since that second promise, Stephen Cohen, who was director of the Russian Studies Program at Princeton University, says that NATO has built up its “permanent land, sea and air power near Russian territory, along with missile-defense installations.” US and NATO weapons and troops have butted right up against Russia’s borders, while anti-missile installations have surrounded it, leading to the feeling of betrayal in Russia and the fear of aggression.
17   Patrick   2025 Jan 9, 11:11am  

My point is that America is the bad guy in all of this, not Russia. America obviously would not tolerate Russia arranging a change of government in Mexico to one sympathetic to Russia, and then arming the Mexicans.

Yet somehow the corporate press has induced a kind of TDS about Russia in otherwise sane people.

Seriously, I just do not understand the hatred for Russia.

It's not like America has any claim to moral superiority. We have rigged elections, political prisoners, mass censorship, and assassinations like they tried to do to Trump in Butler and probably did do with Seth Rich and many others.

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