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H1B Battle on the Horizon


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2020 Jun 16, 6:22am   3,625 views  55 comments

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35   Patrick   2025 Jan 2, 1:22pm  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says







Lol, what is that, like 17 seconds of Apple revenue?

A real penalty has to HURT and hurt a fucking lot.

$25 billion would be a good starting fine for Apple. Just for starters, and to double every time they fuck up again.
36   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 2, 1:55pm  

Patrick says

DOGEWontAmountToShit says








Lol, what is that, like 17 seconds of Apple revenue?

A real penalty has to HURT and hurt a fucking lot.

$25 billion would be a good starting fine for Apple. Just for starters, and to double every time they fuck up again.


👍
38   preed   2025 Jan 2, 4:49pm  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says






Agreeing with Sanders has never been on my bingo card, but he's right on this one.

Now, let's talk about the ever-increasing offshoring of jobs. Engineering, QA, IT, finance, and customer service. Most goes to India, Mexico, and China. Chinese workers all report to the CCP and code is often stolen. I guess India seemed like a more secure bet. It takes at least 3 Indian employees for every good American, and years of training (with US training their replacements), but I guess the corporate overlords are good with that. Customers have become numb to daily patch releases and products that don't work.
39   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 2, 5:55pm  

https://x.com/mich_enjoyer/status/1874892912225620425
H-1Bs Add to Michigan’s Brain Drain

For every foreign worker one of our companies takes in, a native son or daughter has to leave

By James Dickson (
@downi75
)

The H-1B program is costing you your grandchildren. The Great Replacement is not a theory anymore. In Michigan, you could say it’s our lived experience.

Here’s how it works: A company—let’s say Whirlpool—wants to hire senior software engineers to work out of its Benton Harbor headquarters.

It hires the engineers through a third party—say, Atos Syntel. Some make $70,000 a year, others make $80,000.

But the going rate for a senior software engineer in West Michigan is well above $100,000. H-1B workers filling those roles make a lot less money.

This means one of two things. Both are bad for Michigan natives.

It could mean that the engineer is not actually senior, and that he is filling an early-career role could go to one of the 5,000 new college graduates who leave Michigan every summer in search of the good jobs we supposedly don’t have.

Or it could mean that the engineer actually is senior, and hiring an American of comparable skill would cost a lot more money.

For two decades now, we have lamented Michigan’s brain-drain problem. Every year, thousands of our new college graduates take their degrees and earning potential to other states. If only there was something we could do to keep them!

We need cool cities, said Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

We need to build the 21st-century economy, said Gov. Rick Snyder.

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer admitted she didn’t know what to do and put together a blue-ribbon panel to find answers.

The panel came up empty, but the answer to our twin problems of brain drain and the talent gap is staring us in the face. If we want to keep our kids home, we need to kick our addiction to cheap labor. It’s not that the H-1B visa program is bad, it’s that we need a program just like it for Michigan…
40   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 2, 6:41pm  

preed says

Agreeing with Sanders has never been on my bingo card, but he's right on this one.


Same here. And I posted this for the same reason.

Michael Moore was right about the 2016 election, too.
45   Patrick   2025 Jan 3, 6:48pm  

https://newrightpoast.substack.com/p/199-h-1beef


The ones who flew into the United States on H1B visas, however, were a far different
story, and begins the modern saga of ethno-narcissism and shameless cheating. While
our team in India was the utmost of professionalism, that can't be said for many of
their compatriots. The 2010's saw a huge influx of Indian visa holders flying into the
country, largely ones who had no business doing so. One H1B contractor we received
a was a whole different level of incompetence. His first code check-ins were SO
wrongheaded they didn't even compile, seemingly just copy-pasted from Stack
Overflow. We had to constantly hold his hand through solving the issues in the code
review until someone had enough and just did it himself. We asked our lead to
delegate him more menial tasks, which he obliged. His next task was to update a JIRA
script to automatically change status when an item was filled out. It was literally a
two-line code change. He made no progress for two weeks, stating he was "looking at
the documentation". Then he called in sick for a week. Then we guided him through
the solution, and he still fucked it up. Then he called in sick for another week. Again,
we did the job for him, and he asked us to email the code so he could check it into
Github under his own name. We refused.
46   Patrick   2025 Jan 3, 7:09pm  


Pericles 'Perry' Abbasi @ElectionLegal • Dec 29, 2024

I love being lectured on meritocracy by people who come from a country with a caste system
47   Patrick   2025 Jan 3, 7:12pm  

https://socialmatter.substack.com/p/on-indians


At first everything was fine. Their output was consistently solid, and the contractors were cordial and communicative, even the remote ones with the time difference, and everything was on time. It wasn’t to last though. The competence level on the on-site contractors was all over the map, ranging from excellent to barely being able to code. Worse, the quality of work from the engineers in India dropped dramatically, and we later found out they are notorious for putting their best employees on a project, then shifting to their B-Team after six months once they felt like they were locked in.
48   Ceffer   2025 Jan 4, 12:58am  

Woo hopium meets the H-1b?

https://t.me/qthestormrider777/25570
49   gabbar   2025 Jan 4, 4:34am  

Patrick says






Propaganda works but it has its limitations (it can get neutralized by contrarian media channels)....wage suppression is one of the tactics utilized for managing American people in general and American whites in particular, as Bernie notes above; corporations (not just tech but other trades like housing, automotive, retail etc. benefit) are bribing government to make this happen...both unaccountable Democrat and Republican Inc. and they are happy to oblige through this importation of cheap labor...... An independent American who cannot be leveraged is not desirable for government.

Plus monies from H1B is shifted to other federal departments, its a cash cow.
50   gabbar   2025 Jan 4, 4:41am  

Patrick says

https://socialmatter.substack.com/p/on-indians



At first everything was fine. Their output was consistently solid, and the contractors were cordial and communicative, even the remote ones with the time difference, and everything was on time. It wasn’t to last though. The competence level on the on-site contractors was all over the map, ranging from excellent to barely being able to code. Worse, the quality of work from the engineers in India dropped dramatically, and we later found out they are notorious for putting their best employees on a project, then shifting to their B-Team after six months once they felt like they were locked in.


So A-team is being replaced by B-team with lower wages?
51   gabbar   2025 Jan 4, 4:43am  

Patrick says






If true, this is evil being done by that particular agency/administration. I know a couple of people who work at Amazon warehouse in Cleveland. One is a single white grandma and one a single white woman with a young kid.....its hard work and they are happy with their jobs....this shit will impact people like them eventually.
52   Patrick   2025 Jan 7, 3:40pm  

https://revolver.news/2025/01/you-thought-h-1b-was-bad-turns-out-opt-is-really-killing-american-jobs/


Well, folks, just when you thought the immigration debate couldn’t get any spicier, another nightmare program takes center stage. Forget the drama around H-1B visas or student visa scams—turns out there’s an even bigger culprit lurking in the shadows. Meet OPT, the granddaddy of them all, and trust me, every American needs to know how this scam operates. ...

The F-1 student visa program, intended for education, has morphed into a system that actively hurts American college grads. Some shady schools exploit the system by offering minimal or no real education, letting foreign students qualify for the government’s Optional Practical Training (OPT) program. OPT allows these students to work full-time jobs under the guise of being “students,” giving employers massive tax breaks—up to $12,000 per worker—for hiring them over equally or more qualified Americans. See how this works? It’s all tied together.

And this cycle creates an unfair advantage for foreign grads, costs Social Security and Medicare well over a billion dollars each year, and also serves as a backdoor pipeline to H-1B visas, leaving American grads at the bottom of the priority list. ...

You thought the H-1B visa was bad? Wait until you hear about the largest guest worker program killing jobs for new American college grads—the Optional Practical Training (OPT):

• No caps
• Employers get payroll tax exemptions
• No wage requirements

OPT was originally a 1-year work permit for international students graduating from U.S. colleges to gain U.S. work experience to take back to their home countries. It was never meant as a permanent immigration pathway, but rather a short-term opportunity for skill development ...

After Bill Gates failed to get Congress to pass an immigration bill expanding H-1B visas, he enlisted lobbyist Jack Krumholtz to devise a plan using the OPT program to bypass the H-1B caps.

At a cocktail party, lobbyist Jack Krumholtz met then-DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff under George W. Bush and pitched his proposal to expand the OPT program. He suggested extending its duration beyond 1 year, effectively creating a workaround for H-1B visa caps.
54   RWSGFY   2025 Jan 15, 7:32am  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says






Elon has shut his face about the subject too.
55   gabbar   2025 Jan 15, 10:05am  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says






If President Trump + DOGE take action to make modify H-1B, it will be similar to modifying potential/future slavery of American labor force. Let's see if people's interests prevail over corporate interests...

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