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Collecting from FDIC


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2007 Mar 26, 11:42pm   23,436 views  194 comments

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If enough mortgage debt doesn't get repaid, many banks may go under. I've been getting out of the stock market and into CD's, but now I'm starting to think there is risk there too. One of my CD's is from IndyMac, which has already taken a hit from the subprime mess.

IndyMac is FDIC insured, but how hard is it to collect from FDIC? Given that it's a government agency, I'm sure it's a real pain.

Then there is the more serious risk that FDIC itself won't be able to make payments if enough banks go under. But there's no need to be paranoid about that, right?

Patrick

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170   astrid   2007 Mar 28, 6:20am  

I know then from than, but something that properly checks for singular/plural and verb tenses would be very useful for me. I never quite gotten a hang of proper English grammar.

I prefer open source and web based applications. Faster updates and greater reliability, also sidesteps the stupid rights issue. I hate copyrights - I think they should get 15 or 17 years just like patents.

171   sfbubblebuyer   2007 Mar 28, 6:23am  

My short in CFC is the only thing that made money today. :D

172   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 6:30am  

I never quite gotten a hang of proper English grammar.

Human languages have difficult grammatic rules.

I prefer open source and web based applications. Faster updates and greater reliability, also sidesteps the stupid rights issue. I hate copyrights - I think they should get 15 or 17 years just like patents.

I like to be able to work offline. Otherwise, I will be coming here too often.

I think many EULAs allow installation on a desktop AND a laptop, which is still quite generous. I am fine with the current copyright laws. However, many people do not understand that they are not buying the software; they are merely buying a license to use the software.

173   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 6:31am  

I know then from than

I know loose from lose. :-P

174   sfbubblebuyer   2007 Mar 28, 7:01am  

I might be reading too much into this, but I suspect we'll see more stories like this as finances collapse around people's ears. :(

175   astrid   2007 Mar 28, 7:05am  

I'm obviously too educated and too old to ever breed.

176   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 7:08am  

They worked menial jobs to pay a townhouse mortgage, took in a boarder and had a few run-ins with the law, including a shoplifting arrest over children's clothing.

Theft is a crime of moral turpitude. They could have been deported.

177   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 7:08am  

I’m obviously too educated and too old to ever breed.

Huh?

178   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 7:18am  

I might be reading too much into this, but I suspect we’ll see more stories like this as finances collapse around people’s ears.

People are responsible for their choices. They should be held accountable for their choices. If they make the wrong choice, they better fact the consequences. If they choose the "easy" way out, they deserve no sympathy from me or any other reasonable person.

Contrary to popular belief, one cannot always breed his/her way out of a difficult situation. Is a child really a gift from God?

Fine, I am incapable of compassion. You can all hate me now.

179   DinOR   2007 Mar 28, 7:27am  

astrid,

My oldest sister was unable to have children. As a result she saw all of the nieces and nephews more as "individuals" and people rather than "freakin' kids". I was always surprised how well behaved the kids were when we came to pick them up.

The world needs AUNTS too ya know! :)

180   astrid   2007 Mar 28, 7:42am  

The woman is younger than me and she has a 9 year old kid! Her kid would probably have had kids before most people in my high school IB class do.

The really freaky thing is that I knew someone just like this in high school (in Montgomery country, MD) who was a sophmore but 19 years older. At that time she had two kids, one was 3 or 4 years old.

But people like this make me never want to have kids, because this kind of gene pool for the next generation cannot end well.

181   Randy H   2007 Mar 28, 7:43am  

Peter P

Such libertarian ideals are immune to the fundamental shift in perspective regarding children when one becomes a parent. This too is likely a natural thing and has ensured the survival of our species to this point.

After the first time gazing into your own child's genuinely innocent eyes you immediately realize that children are never "deserving" of any fate, regardless of the sins of their parents; regardless if their parents are deserving public hanging. It was not the child's obligation to mold their parents.

182   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 7:44am  

But people like this make me never want to have kids, because this kind of gene pool for the next generation cannot end well.

Well said.

183   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 7:45am  

After the first time gazing into your own child’s genuinely innocent eyes you immediately realize that children are never “deserving” of any fate, regardless of the sins of their parents.

I hear you. This is another reason why I am afraid of having kids.

184   astrid   2007 Mar 28, 7:49am  

Randy,

I don't think Peter P or I were suggesting the kids (or even the husband) deserved what happened to them. Rather, that those kids should not have been born at all because the parents were not morally or financially ready to be responsible parents.

185   astrid   2007 Mar 28, 7:59am  

DinOR,

Well, we'll see what happens. Right now, my cousins and my boyfriends siblings are all shaping up to be DINKs or just plain single. There might not be any kids in our future, just a lot of free time for poker nights, foreign travel, and bread baking.

186   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 8:04am  

There might not be any kids in our future, just a lot of free time for poker nights, foreign travel, and bread baking.

It will be much worse. People in underdeveloped countries will continue to breed at neck-breaking pace while educated folks are disincentivized to have kids. The result is that the would will be completely occupied by cavemen. Humanity will de-evolve.

187   sfbubblebuyer   2007 Mar 28, 8:07am  

People in underdeveloped countries will continue to breed at neck-breaking pace

This is exactly why I refuse to give to any charity sending food to third world countries without sending condoms. Which means I don't give to any of those charities.

188   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 8:08am  

My solution:

1. Modify foreign aid strategy, move from a need-based paradigm to a merit-based paradigm.

2. Improve access to education in the third world. Education is way more important than food.

3. Import techology into the third world. This should vastly improve quality of life over time.

4. Discontinue all need-based welfare systems in the developed world.

189   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 8:09am  

This is exactly why I refuse to give to any charity sending food to third world countries without sending condoms.

I agree with you.

190   astrid   2007 Mar 28, 8:16am  

Peter P,

Do keep in mind that the bulk of my family is in Shanghai.

Sad but true, the individuals in my family who are most likely to breed are also the dumbest of the bunch.

191   GallopingCheetah   2007 Mar 28, 8:47am  

Peter, gc at yahoo.com was a fake email address. Try now.

192   Peter P   2007 Mar 28, 8:56am  

Sent.

193   Jimbo   2007 Mar 28, 10:25am  

DinOR,

1% is actually pretty low in terms of overall transactions expenses, mgmt. and service. Merrill is about 2% and most are in between. My guess is the rep probably feels you are well established in your field, know everybody that’s worth knowing and is at least attempting to leverage your referral base. Throw the guy/gal a few bones and see if s/he will negotiate down even a little further?

The truth is that I am under the minimum assets required for that cost level, but this is an old friend of mine who I agreed to let manage my money as a favor to him, since he is just starting out. He is taking over the brokerage from his father-in-law, who is retiring, so he doesn't really need the help, but I know how it is when you are starting out in a new career, so I figured I would help out. Before that, I did all my own research and traded via E*Trade.

I did refer a few wealthy people I know his way, but none has decided to send their business his way. If someone does bite, I guess I can ask for a lower rate, then.

194   EBGuy   2007 Mar 28, 10:50am  

Latest S&P Case-Shiller Home Price Index numbers are out. Charlotte is the only city not declining. Looks like Shiller is doing a victory lap in the press release. DinOR should be happy -- Seattle finally (barely) turned negative and Portland continues to decline.

“The annual declines in the composites are a good indicator of the dire state of the U.S. residential real estate market,” says Robert J. Shiller, Chief Economist at MacroMarkets LLC. “ The 10-City and 20-city Composites are both showing negative annual returns, a striking difference from the 15.1% and 14.7% returns they reported this time last year. The dismal growth in the 10-City composite is now at rates not seen since January 1994.”
The decline in the returns of the composites is led by Detroit and Boston, starting their year with annual declines of 6.9% and 5.6%, respectively. Seattle and Portland – having shown some resistance to the sharp downward trend - have reported their second consecutive flat or negative monthly returns. With Phoenix and Tampa now reporting negative annual returns, 11 of the 20 metro areas are now in year-over-year decline.

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