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Regarding the report on CNN about RE values. They predict 2-3 % drop ? I think that's too precise for RE prices. Median is such a loose indicator. 2-3% up or down means nothing. Even a bum can negotiate that change up/down.

A range of % over a range of months is a much better way to predict IMHO.

Ha Ha you are a fucking idiot. The job you post is very very high level with very specific experience, yet from this you extrapolate that it is a normal position. Fuck you. I for one am so fucking glad you get job offers like this, now perhaps you will finally afford to BUY A FUCKING LIFE.

I don't fucking care how much money you make, to me you are just another fucking maggot living in the ant hill that is the Bay Area. Here's an idea you small minded fuck, why don't you buy a fucking Hummer with you astounding wealth and just print your fucking salary number on the side of it? Maybe then you won't just jack off in the shower or pay hookers when on vacation to Taiwan or Thailand.

Did I mention FUCK YOU?

heres a better idea you fucking moron, do me a favor and calculate your hourly rate, no lying now maggot, use the true 65+hr a week this type of job requires. Ok, I'll do it for you.

52*65=3380

175K/3380=$51/hr

congradulation on your new found wealth. You are a fucking idiot.

To BA,

Exactly. Also, these idiotic infotainers never bother to disclose what that median price drop means and how they've obtained it. What they report isn't just useless but downright misleading.

Surfer-X,

(sarcasm on)

I must disagree with you. What HaHa says is very valid. Everyone know that people in the BA are all between the ages of 35 and 45, play well with others, able to communicate with others, good at multitasking, knows about 5 bazillion programming languages intimately, speaks Hindi, do manager type stuff, dealt with frequent bouts of unemployment, etc.

Face it, if you don't fall under one of these categories. You're not a person, you're a Morlock(and possibly...a troll).

Duh!

(sarcasm off)

-one of these categories
+every one of these categories

:oops:

Ha Ha,

The benefits you've mentioned thus far don't come near that much. What kind of benefits are they offering?

Ok Ha Ha fucknob, let me see if I get this straight, you get paid 175K a year and another 300K a year in benefits?

You are now not only a fucking maggot on the BA ant heap, but a true fucking liar. Go pedal your shit elsewhere.

HARM, please for the love of fucking god, delete the troll.

Randy H,

While I'll agree that Larry or Sergey probably wouldn't waste their time, they do have attorney's on retainer with nowhere to go and all day to get there! I've heard of a certain "jock wear" mfr. that will go to the ends of the earth even if you parody one of their commercials!

However; it was so freaking funny I think even they would have to laugh, and if they don't, well f'em!

surfer-x Says:

"...use the true 65+hr a week this type of job requires..."

Yes! That's what I'm talking about!

Who the F wants to work that much screwing around with computers?
You've got to be looney. No high-tech job is worth it for that shit...

You can't afford a house in San Jose for 175K? Sure you can.
Try Bufkin Dr. or Hopi Cr. 95123 zip.

1,100-1,200 sf. but you can still afford one.

Or even a decent condo on Mataki Cr. near IBM on Cottle Rd.

175K plus more benefits? Sounds sweet. Sounds circa 1999 or something.

Are you in the right century, or did the Nasdaq collapse put the zap on your head?

You did invent the now (in)famous "Ha Ha" measurement of wealth.
I will give you that!

You guys should check out the photoshop contests on http://www.fark.com if you are worried about this pic of the Google Bros.

HARM, please for the love of fucking god, delete the troll.

Well, X,

I'm not defending Ha Ha's incessant need to remind us all of his salary & benefits, but in a previous thread you did ASK (I know you had tongue firmly in cheek, but still --big mistake ;-) ).

Ha Ha,

We're all delighted that your (old) salary became the Patrick.net wealth/price index and we're also impressed by your important new job, buddy --really. Please just curb the "I make ______ and still can't buy a house here" posts from here on, ok? That inside joke's getting a bit long in the tooth.

Ha Ha,

BTW, just in case you were wondering, YOU ARE NOT INVITED TO THE BLOG PARTY OVER AT SURFER-X's. Sorry to break it to you, buddy, but it should really come as no surprise. :-)

Whenever I hear someone "bragging" about making one Ha Ha it reminds me of the guys that used to brag that they had a Camaro in High School...

Sure a job making one Ha Ha is better than many jobs just like a Camaro is better than a Pinto or Chevette, but it is not something to brag about...

The thing is if you make the money fucknob purports to, you work 65+hrs a week.

My family lives in the Bay Area and, predictably, every conversation eventually centers around how many Ha Has they make, and how many Ha Has their CONDO is worth now. They haven't even noticed that their kids and grandkids have long since DISAPPEARED. But who cares when you've got CONDOS. And ones in Shallow Alto, no less. What a fucking cancer. I hope there is an afterlife so all the smug NIMBY B.A. elitists get their deserved eternal shower of bowel mud. I'd rather spend Christmas alone inside of a bottle of Jack Daniels every year for the rest of my life than hear another minute of their self-absorbed boomer drivel.

Oh yeah, and just to keep it on-topic: I hope Google implodes like the impacted colon that it is. If I had a magic lamp with a genie in it, my three wishes are: (1) I want a Magic Boomer Condo that spawns money, (2) I want the Bay Area to sink into the ocean, and (3) I want those two Google greedbags in the pic to experience prison sex.

@Bikes2work,

Good point about Fark --the stuff they post routinely makes the GooglePimps© pic look like a fawning tribute to S&L.

Red Whine says:
[... brilliant rant ...]

LOL. Thanks. That really hit the spot.

1 HaHa is a decent wage. But it is still a wage.

Exactly. As I have said before, being "highly salaried" is still salaried. Meaning: no G-V for you. :)

Actually, Speaking of copyright issues,I have a very basic question, and since many of you work in law, perhaps you could be of assistence. I am redesigning my site. On it are hundreds of examples of advertising pieces ranging from high volume emails to interactive rich media. Some of the work is purely conceptual. There are 2 pieces that were never used commerically but have some images in the background, mostly out of the way and somewhat obscure, but still there nonetheless. They came off of one of those pay-per-photo sites. Now... seeing that the site is made for future clients, there is the direct corrolation between potential money somewhat loosly connected to the work on the site. I realize that if the aforementioned company were to see these, they might ask me to take them down. My question is that would it be almost standard procedure simply to ask me to remove the image first.. or could they immediatly sue me for copyright infringement? It's no biggie. I'm thinking of taking the 2 pieces out anyhow. thanks guys!

and... speaking of working on computers for a living... I'm almost with you guys. I used to mow lawns and fix equipment for a living. I just hooked up a small trailer,mowed around 35 lawns, and did my own thing. It wasn't near the dough I make now, but there are days that I'd almost trade and go back. As it it now, I have to wear arm braces because I have slight tendonitus from working on these things almost round the clock. Got home last night, worked until 1AM... on ANOTHER computer!

Joe,
My wedding suit was a used suit my wife's mom got from the salvation army. No kidding. It was barely even worn, fit like a glove, and looked great. It made me look like some weasly CEO. If I had a wish for fashion, of which is a subject that I am ill-informed about, it would be that suddenly western ties and cowboy hats worn with suits and boots made a big comeback. I remember going to Texas as a kid and seeing businessmen downtown dressed like this and thought that that was the coolest thing in the world- getting away with dressing like a cowboy at the office.

Jesus.. I'm going to fill up the board.I should just read the posts first. sorry. ANyhow, if HA HA is still around, I had a technical question for you, since you seem to know your way around programming. Anyhow, do you have any working knowledge about the workaround for activex embeds in IE7? The problem now is that Microsoft got sued by some worthless company which required them to change their browser so that you have to click the page first before flash will load. I have since founf a workaround for this, but it isn't entirely stable in all browsers. This is what I have thus far:

}
-->

AC_FL_RunContent( 'codebase','http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
#version=7,0,19,0','width','1100','height','2500','src','email2','quality','high','pluginspage',
'http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer','movie','email2' ); //end AC code

Is there a better way to implement this? thankee!

David Seiders (NAHB) said:

"Anyone out there saying that April's 4.9% increase in home sales is an indication of a recovery in the housing market SHOULD BE LOCKED UP!" in his interview on Bloomberg's! He had a very refreshing candor about him that Suzie Assad should have not only acknowledged but encouraged! It seemed like he took great pains to distance himself from Lerah.

Welcome to the team Mr. Seiders!

SHOULD BE LOCKED UP!

Wow! He went on to say that the "overall trend" is decidely downward in nature as they went on to discuss the incentives that builders are now desperately employing. Randy H, David Seiders (NAHB) sounded like Shiller "got to him" and that he is now on the "payroll"! Shiller did not go into this with his eyes closed. He carefully weighed his natural market and it seems he has found a new spokesman for housing futures.

WWII,

Are you a fan at all of the "Mythbusters"? My brother and I had thrown a lot of "dummies" from perilous heights as kids along with our policy of "testing to destruction" primarily with "found" property. Not that we're proud of it but how long can a lawnmower run without oil? The way that rod's a knockin' (and nothing else salvage worthy) we might as well find out! I just know our "Pivoting Roof Top Water Balloon Launching Device" was a favorite with the local PD!

SFWoman,

LOL! The Nevada realt-whores can certainly one up that, when the time comes:)

SFWoman,

Just hysterical! Some of the realtor turned realt-whore quotes were just golden! Isn't that how Heidi Fleiss got her start? "Up scale", discreet?

I drove an older Volvo for years. If ever there was a car that could run without oil this was it. One time while breaking for a stop sign on a steep downhill I noticed the "oil light" came on. I thought huh, I just changed the oil........ Oh I dunno? Stopped in a service station and the attendant told me it was a "little low". 4 quarts low to be exact! Oh well, 4 out of 5 ain't bad. Ran like champ.

LOL! Synergy! Maybe the Google-pimps should pay you and HARM royalty for the idea.

This sort of "lateral movement" reminds me of OO's ideas from HK's RE price collapse.

"Third, throughout the downtime in Asia, the only industry that kept doing well was, cosmetics. The reason is, the women who are paid less to begin with find it particularly economically worthwhile to grab a rich husband, so to speak. I think this may be replicable here because of the wage gap between men and women. I also concur with the security products mentioned above, because crime rate in both place did go up due to recessions."

Time to invest in lipstick and guard dogs.

SQT,

I thought the realt-whore seemed to imply "would rather your husband be at up-scale gentlemen's establishment or one of those sleazy clubs"?

Uh, just for the record, Mr. DinOR would be SO DEAD either way it wouldn't matter! (These Filipina gals will hack you to death with a machette...... then take pictures to show their friends!)

But gee hon, it was an "up-scale" gentlemen's establishment!

Forget the ambulance, somebody call the coroner.

I do wonder about the social impact of the RE bubble collapse. Last time this happened, a lot of communities in SoCal turned very bad in a hurry. I think the reversal will be even faster this time around, given the amount of investment properties bought by far away and inexperienced landlords.

The other thing is how the overleveraged owner-users will deal with their lives. I'd hate to live with an upside-down interest only mortgage that I can't escape except via bankruptcy (now extremely difficult) or another RE bubble. (or inflation, but I think high inflation will push most of these guys into bankruptcy)

DinOR,

Exactly. Plus, the last thing any wife would want are attractive and well turned out "companions" offered there. Hubby might not be tempted to run off with a low rent hussy but they might think about doing a trade-in at one of these places.

As we go through life I've come to realize that every young gal you see is "someone's daughter". We should remember that! When we're about to "lay on the horn" in the parking lot, remember that old gal is "somebody's mother". Even though I get "snubbed" from time to time much of Oregon (Portland doesn't count here) is still a place where it's perfectly O.K to get the door for a lady and take your hat off when addressing one. We should remember that too.

SQT,

I'm not a man and my boyfriend is not the sort to frequent "gentlemen's clubs", so I don't know what they'd consider acceptable. Anyone care to anonymously anonymously comment on acceptability of marrying exotic dancers?

On the other hand, Anna Nicole Smith managed to catch herself one while pole dancing, so it's at least possible.

SQT,
If you have boys, they tend to be facisnated with burning things. I know me and everyone else I knew when I was little did, but we also lived in the sticks and had ready access to stockpiles of firecrackers which were sold by the grocery bag at large firecracker supercenters nearby. Out here that might be a tad more difficult. It seems that these days there are simply too many gadgets- Ipods, Gameboys, cell phones, and Xboxes to pacify children enough to be less interested in the great outdoors, and strange experiments.

SQT,

I'm sure it's not nearly the driving impulse it once was. With today's video games offering the chance to "lay waste" to an entire city, blowing the door off of a junk freezer with an M-80 just doesn't have the same appeal. Most of the "experiments" I've seen of late were amateurish, lacked imagination and delivered predictable results. Unlike the stunts (that some how pass for entertainment) on shows like "Jackass" ours were inventive and pushed the envelope. Usually until the FD arrived.

Thus the famous saying: Relax! The cops won't be here for another 10 minutes!

Can we make that applicable to mortgage fraud?

But we've "cooked" the applicant's income, debt to income and FICO score!

Relax! The cops won't be here for another 10 minutes!

SQT,

I assumed that there's no prostitution there. Marrying prostitutes is something else altogether.