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tatupu70 says

Huh? Most of the rest of the US. I think you’re the one with your head in the sand…

http://www.inman.com/news/2011/01/24/cheaper-buy-rent-in-72-largest-us-cities

An inman article referencing trulia. That's hilarious.

klarek says

tatupu70 says

Huh? Most of the rest of the US. I think you’re the one with your head in the sand…
http://www.inman.com/news/2011/01/24/cheaper-buy-rent-in-72-largest-us-cities

An inman article referencing trulia. That’s hilarious.

Would you like other data? Do you disagree with the findings?

The US price/rent ratio is 10.42

tatupu70 says

Would you like other data? Do you disagree with the findings?

The findings are based only on the median price of 2BR apartments/townhomes/condos on their site. That's not a disagreement with their data, but a disagreement with their conclusion that "it is cheaper to buy a home rather than rent one", and with their methodology.

Beyond that, inman and trulia are home ownership puffery outlets. You can find better data if you're not looking through your bullish blinders.

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/affordability/

Not many cities within the inman/trulia report's top ten have crossed the rent/own break-even threshold, let alone 72 percent of 50.

I'm not a "birther" (like Clarence), but I find it interesting that Trump recently stated that Obama has spent over $2 million in legal fees to fight the "birther" thingy. The Donald asked the question: "if there is nothing there, why would you spend $2 million?" Very interesting question.

RayAmerica says

//// but I find it interesting that Trump recently stated that Obama has spent over $2 million in legal fees to fight the “birther” thingy. The Donald asked the question: .... Very interesting question.

Man Glenn Beck has certainly left his mark on this debate. Your assumed parody sounds remarkably like a favorite Birther tactic to appear reasonable, "Even though I've been talking about this for an hour now, it's really a non-issue. But we should all keep asking questions...."

I'm definitely not saying that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990. But isn't it INTERESTING how much energy he spends denying it. Why doesn't he just PROVE where he was for every second of 1990? It is a very interesting QUESTION.

Inman's heading:

Cheaper to buy than to rent in 72% of largest U.S. cities

and opening paragraph:

Despite the rising number of renters across the country, it is cheaper to buy a home rather than rent one in 72 percent of the 50 largest cities in the U.S., according to an index released by real estate search and marketing site Trulia.

For emphasis:

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Trulia’s rent vs. buy index compares the median list price with the median rent on two-bedroom apartments, condominiums and townhomes listed on Trulia.com as of Jan. 10, 2011.
—–

You have no objections to the lies flung around by two sites with a reputation of bullshit propaganda, but are still holding the impetus on me to prove them wrong after I already did. Unbelievable.

OMG reminds me of Talk Soup. Man what a fake smile though.

"Bristol says if even one girl is prevented from getting pregnant, I will feel a sense of accomplishment."

Not a very good bang for the buck.

I think I could achieve much better results with $262K. I would spend the first $100K on a kickass party with a band and everything. Condoms will be passed out of course.

Then I'd spend the other $162K on sex education including hospital tours where all the youngsters have to watch a live birth. Although this might not be as much a deterrent as you think. Some girls get so misty-eyed over babies that even seeing all the bloody reality is washed away by LOOK AT THE BABY! Might work a bit better for boys. Perhaps show them "here's your job at the gas station, where you will spend your youth paying for knocking her up".

What ever happened to Levi? I remember seeing him up on stage at the GOP Convention. Senator McCain should have had a military recruter talk with this guy. Levi could have joined the Army, married Bristol, and mother and child would have been taken care of.

Seems to me that Levi made some statements about being a bad ass red neck. Fighting in Afghanistan would given him an outlet.

Vicente says

I’m definitely not saying that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990. But isn’t it INTERESTING how much energy he spends denying it. Why doesn’t he just PROVE where he was for every second of 1990? It is a very interesting QUESTION.

Glen Beck also spent lots of money (presumably in the millions) trying to silence this question. He even went crying to un-American international courts. And get this poor Beck lost the court battle…

…Hmmm… now I am not saying that he raped and murder that girl in 1990 (he probably did not), but he refuses to answer the question, then looses the court case trying to silence the question…

…Hmmm… makes the question more interesting.

it's already April and prices in our area are going down.

But I totally forgot that Susan researched it to the opposite.

RayAmerica says

I’m not a “bither” (like Clarence), but I find it interesting that Trump recently stated that Obama has spent over $2 million in legal fees to fight the “birther” thingy. The Donald asked the question: “if there is nothing there, why would you spend $2 million?” Very interesting question.

Because in this country people can sue others for any reason they want.

I have a question: Why has Obama been winning all the birther lawsuits? ...Hmmm... yes... interesting...

Yeah well the Commodity market players are humping your dinner plate, gas tank, the bread box, and your refrigerator. Like the Robot Chicken washing machine humping robot. While the Fed dims the lights, and pours the wine.

The Donald is now sending PI's to Hawaii to investigate Obama's birth.

Wow, nobody thought of that before?

Strange he didn't hire famous Thomas Magnum P.I., he's a known Obama critic.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/07/trump-sends-investigators-to-hawaii-to-look-into-obama/

Ok first, this thread is driving me nuts... bunch of little old ladies bickering about the real color of apples and oranges... jeesh.

Klarek, Im not sure where you live, but in Walnut Creek, (Bay area) I just checked CL and saw the following:
3 bedroom rentals range: 1450-6100
2 bedroom rentals range: 1000-1900

The point being, especially in the bay area, these micro climates in prices have NO reflect on prices outside of these areas. The data is absolutely mind boggling to come up with any one conclusion. Some house around the corner from me just sold for $800k, I see they are doing some renovations already assuming kitchen and some others items ($100k). People have the money for these places, they are not going away. I have been hearing and reading for the past 2+ years... its crappy, going down hill, bottom is coming..... I have yet to see anything but a flat line at least in my "micro climate" of real estate. And I only pay attention to whats in my immediate area. I could care less about Brentwood and Milpitas, San Mateo, etc. These have no real effect on my house value. (at least what I have seen to make me any more worried)

He should make a new show: "Apprentice: Hawaiian PI". Imagine all of these doofus MBAs running around the Hawaiian government archives on missiions to "prove" Obama isn't American. The show would be fucking hilarious!

Up the antics and do a "Celebrity Apprentice" version. Have Dog The Bounty Hunter lead a group of burnout celebrities around Hawaii trying to dig up dirt on the President. The ideal cast:

Charlie Sheen - obligatory drug addict
The Koran burning Florida Pastor - to prove Obama is a Muslim and to burn the birth certificate!
Tom DeLay - for the dancing competition!
Orly Taitz - the Birther Queen herself!
Big Bird - famous Muppet Birther!
Stephen Colbert
Joe Farah - Editor of WorldNetDaily and mustachioed conspiracy theorist extraordinairre!

Vicente says

Strange he didn’t hire famous Thomas Magnum P.I., he’s a known Obama critic.

I would be appropriate for a man who lives in a self deluded fantasy world to hire a fictional detective. Oh yeah, and also be a tea bagger.

Forced to face a little reality Trump did lose his defamation suit against the reporter that called him a mere-millionaire.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30813448/ns/business-us_business/

I think this is an opening for a re-imagined Magnum P.I.

Donald Trump as the off-screen Robin Masters?
Charlie Sheen as Thomas Magnum
Higgins?

Who would play all the buddies?

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-finance/real-estate/buyers-shun-new-homes-1301521568482/

one thing for sure, and that is 2011 is a terrible time to buy.

shrekgrinch says

leoj707 says

I have a question: Why has Obama been winning all the birther lawsuits? …Hmmm… yes… interesting…

Because it takes a vote of four SCs to hear the case and they won’t. It will be a big mess that they would rather not deal with, as both Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia have said publicly.

Thanks that makes perfect sense. Oh… wait… no, that is total bullshit.

A brief history of the failed legal struggle fueled by tea bagging fantasies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

Federal Courts

Berg v. Obama
United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit affirmed the district court's ruling that Berg lacked standing.

Kerchner v. Obama
Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.

Barnett v. Obama
At a hearing … …Carter… …he dismissed the case. The case is currently pending in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

Hollister v. Soetoro
U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.

Cook v. Good
Cook's case was dismissed as moot

Rhodes v. Macdonald
U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.

State Courts

Martin v. Lingle
The court denied Martin's petition

Donofrio v. Wells
the case reached the United States Supreme Court on December 8, 2008, the Court declined without comment to hear the case.

Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz
The suit was dismissed after initial hearings.

Keyes v. Bowen
The California Supreme Court declined, without comment, to review the case on February 2, 2011.

Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana
Governor's motion to dismiss was granted. The Plaintiffs appealed the ruling to the Indiana Court of Appeals, which upheld it on November 12, 2009.

Indictment attempts using "citizen grand juries"
Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia rejected the "indictment" on July 2.

2007 and before= great time to buy.
2007 = great time to buy.
2008 = great time to buy.
......
2011 = great time to buy.

It's always good time to buy

:)

I think all reasonable people, regardless of their political persuasion, would have to agree that even Donald Trump would be far better than Obama at this point. Obama is a complete disaster. 2012 can't come soon enough (even though I'll be 2 years older).

Isn't Trump the one who thinks cheating people on real estate deals is brilliant basis for foreign policy?

RayAmerica says

I think all reasonable people, regardless of their political persuasion, would have to agree that even Donald Trump would be far better than Obama at this point. Obama is a complete disaster. 2012 can’t come soon enough (even though I’ll be 2 years older).

Only people that don't know Trump beyond his marketed image.

George W. was a disaster, Obama has just been a disappointment.

At least W. does not brag about cheating people in business deals.

Klingons would make great Realtors. " DaHjaj 'oH QaQ jaj Daq tlhong!"

shrekgrinch says

Hey! I am NOT a birther.

Haha, you funny.

That is like the pope hobbling around in his fancy clothes and hat conducting mass, then saying, "I am NOT the pope; why would you think that!"

Why am i not surprised that Shirk is in to the whole teabag thing ? Fricken deviant.

Or that the teabaggers are pulling this bait and switch. They get elected supposedly to fight spending (by the most out of touch voters (such as shirk) that have no clue why interest rates are still close to zero after all the stimulus that has occurred).

And then they turn around and hold the budget hostage to their extremely unpopular social agenda.

I do not agree with cutting funding for Planned Parenthood. I and others want government out of our lives and off our wallets, but do not object to women having access to inexpensive health care. Teabagging is a gay male sex act, so the people who call those who attended Tea Party meetings "teabaggers" are wrong. The gays I know would never go to a Tea Party. The EPA should stop over-stepping its authority, so if it needs its wings to be clipped, fine.

What is mysterious is why did not Obama and the Democrats pass a budget last year before the new Republican majority house of representatives was seated? Some suspicious people may conclude that Obama cynically planned this showdown after the disastrous election in November gave him a "shellacking" by deliberately not having a budget.

kimboslice says

Teabagging is a gay male sex act

That's why I find it amusing that shirk (or shirkwad as his friends call him) is so in to it !

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

leoj707 says

George W. was a disaster, Obama has just been a disappointment.

Obama is Bush on hyper-steroids. The only thing that's changed under Obama is that the national debt has exploded beyond what the reckless spending Bush could have ever dreamed. Wall Street and the Mega Bankers power has grown even more under Obama, and in case you haven't noticed, he has dramatically expanded the war in Afghanistan along with new aggression into Libya. I could go on and on. Obama is hardly just a little "disappointment" unless you're drowning in Kool-Aid.

marcus says

kimboslice says

Teabagging is a gay male sex act

That’s why I find it amusing that shirk (or shirkwad as his friends call him) is so in to it !
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Shouldn't you be at your union rally voting yourself another raise at taxpayer expense while spitting at the private sector?

shrekgrinch says

Yeah, because 4 SCs were needed to decided whether the case would be heard. Which didn’t happen in all those cases — that is what ‘U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case’ means. You did know that right, Genius? So what is my ‘bullshit’ exactly?

Oh wait… now I see… thanks for pointing that out… my bad…

Wait no, on second thought… Still Bullshit.

Each of your fingers must be a little bull's backside, and you are making quite a mess of your keyboard.

It is bullshit to misrepresent facts and/or distort facts.

Correct me if I am wrong but, your insinuation is that, while there may be merit to the suits, the Supreme Court does not want to hear them because it is not something they want to “deal with.”

And that sir, is… um… cough… bullshit.

…hmmm, I remember another messy issue of who was the President that the SC had not problem ruling on. The day the SC will not listen to a case because it is too messy and difficult is the day we need a new panel of justices.

Oh, so 3 out of the 12 cases the SC “declined, without comment, to hear the case.”
I am sure that the SC declines to comment on cases all the time for all sorts of reasons, but perhaps we can do some sleuthing and look at the other 9 cases for a clue.

…Hmmm… I am seeing words like: dismissed and declined (after hearing the argument), moot, lacked standing, etc…

If I have misrepresented your insinuation and you agree that all 12 cases have been rejected because they are baseless and without merit, them my apologies.

Until then I call shenanigans on you.

shrekgrinch says

PROVE that I am a birther. Especially since I have never claimed any stance stating belief that Obama was not born in the US.

Why? when some guy says that he is totaly striaght, but just likes to go down on men a couple times a year I don't have to prove he is not straight. He already did if for me.

Ray I am not going to do your research for you. In this day and age ignorance is a choice. Remember just because they say it on FOX “news” does not make it true, in fact it is probably not.
RayAmerica says

The only thing that’s changed under Obama is that the national debt has exploded beyond what the reckless spending Bush could have ever dreamed.

Haha, no.

Wall Street and the Mega Bankers power has grown even more under Obama,

Um, no again.

and in case you haven’t noticed, he has dramatically expanded the war in Afghanistan

Uh, yeah… that is where we should have been fighting instead of Iraq. Or don’t you want to get ben Laden?

along with new aggression into Libya.

Too soon to tell.

I could go on and on.

Don’t bother.

leoj707 says

Haha, no.

leoj707 says

Um, no again.

leoj707 says

Uh, yeah… that is where we should have been fighting instead of Iraq. Or don’t you want to get ben Laden?

leoj707 says

Too soon to tell.

leoj707 says

Don’t bother.

I admit it. I'm overwhelmed by the sheer power of your in depth analysis and incredibly intelligent responses. You win (ummm, just like Charlie Sheen).

Nomograph says

- Focus on Afghanistan to root out enemies who attacked the U.S.

I thought the attackers on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia? CIA estimates that there are only 200 al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan, which of course proves beyond all doubt that Obama was right when he dramatically increased the number of troops there.

PS: you also forgot to mention Obama's expansion into Libya. I wonder why?

PS #2: you also forgot to mention Obama's incredible expansion of the National Debt. I wonder why (part 2)?

PS #3: you also forgot to mention Obama's failure in "renegotiating NAFTA & GATT" which he repeatedly promised during his campaign. I wonder why (part 3).

RayAmerica says

I admit it. I’m overwhelmed by the sheer power of your in depth analysis and incredibly intelligent responses.

Don't worry, I understand how one of you intellectual capabilities could feel overwhelmed by what I would consider limited analysis. However, remember that there is much more behind my short answers, but as I said...
leoj707 says

Ray I am not going to do your research for you. In this day and age ignorance is a choice.

Ray, your inability (borne either by choice, or natural mental capacity) to "face facts" give me little desire to illuminate you further.