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SQT,
You’re just saying that because you’re afraid of the Surferman.
Well, it's that plus he can rip on Boomers like nobody's business AND he's hosting our next blog party (July 4th). You Bay Aryans should come, btw. Santa Barbara's not too bad a drive, right?
I will now have to think of a bunch of really reasonable arguements as to why you really suck.
I look forward to tasting your delicious, succulent venom -mmmm... :twisted:
find surfer-X’s pandering and groveling a bit much at times too.
Man I would really like to help DinOR knee some McDebtors in the nuts, please please can I help you do this? I think that there is way too much hate out there, Peter P should be able to eat as much as he wants and gain nary an ounce, pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaase let the bubble pop horribly.
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P&G mode off.
he’s hosting our next blog party (July 4th)
HARM do you swing, if so man are we so in. ahahahahahahahahaha
Claire,
Keep on postin'! At least you got a rise out of the surfer-dude.
T Lynch Hmmm, how old are you?
Ok here goes, as Luke Skywalker is filled with rage, Darth Vader (his father) sees the hate and compliments him on it, and says Luke I'm your Father Meaning your hate is good young Luke, nuture it, it is your destiny.
I am 28 by the way and was born around the time the Star Wars saga began.
Nope, you're too young, Star Wars came out in 1977, saw it as a very young bitter boy.
SP,
Yes, exactly. As I mentioned to Little Al I too waited with baited breath to see the articles of the day but collectively we have managed to go way past that.
"Yo, knucklehead cub reporter!" Put down your damn I-pod thing for a minute, quit e-mailing your girlfirend and give 300 words on this mortgage fraud thing!"
Google, google, yahoo, phone call, phone call. There ya go boss! (Goes back to e-mailing girlfriend)
I can't believe I used to foam at the mouth for these fluff clone pieces but we're way beyond that now, aren't we?
I will have to rewatch Star Wars, I thought he was simply stating a fact in the hopes that it would cause Luke to go over to the dark side
Mmmmm Claire.
Don't let SQT's bitterness infect you, she's filled with rage/hate and as we type is passing the rage/hate to a younger generation.
SQT, Ni Kung Fu Zhu Ha (your kung fu is the best!)
T Lynch Says:
Would the safer bet for me be to wait until say 2008 and just continue saving more money for the downpayment and if the housing “bubble†doesn’t burst by then would it be safe to say that the slow down was a “soft†one and not a full on collapse? Or is there no telling how long or when this “bubble†may burst and that I will always pretty much be flying blind when buying a home?
"Difficult to see. Always in motion is future." - Yoda
DJ…games…water balloons. No booze or profanity……
LILLL did you mean "BJ's, water games, booze and profanity?"
Man cuz I am so in :)
T Lynch,
That's what I'm doing......
Although I think Sacramento has started bursting already..... look at all their inventory...
We don’t have the land/building restrictions you see in the BA, and the sprawl out here has been massive.
Yes, driving up to Tahoe each winter, I notice more and more developments along I-80. It looks like soon enough the sprawl will reach Davis in one direction and Auburn in the other.
SQT,
I guess I'll never forget my first "X-Rant". (Do any of us forget our "first" time?) I'd been checking the web site for maybe a year and wasn't even sure what a "blog" was. The articles were great and I enjoyed knowing I wasn't the only person tracking this debacle in the making. And for a year it was fine. But I needed (ya know, wink wink) the "harder stuff". You know, (in the back room) wink wink. Keep in mind that back in the day we had trolls, and they provided endless entertainment as they were disemboweled. I'm sure there are those out there that visit just for the X-Man and scroll through just for the "punishment"! Randy H's well reasoned comments (while intellectually satisfying) just don't pack 'em in like X.
Sir Peter P, Lord of Crustaceans, is also very fond of ceramic knives.
whack-the-author:
DinOR: Are you drinking happy juice all the time, or what? Even your rants come off sounding nice!
ww2 nee nomadtoons: I enjoy the anecdotes, but somehow I feel like I know more about TN than I ever really wanted to know.
RandyH: one word - obfuscation.
Different Sean: I do enjoy the posts, but, oh yes, please tell us which edition of the "Liberal Manifesto" you keep at the bedside.
SP: You have a knack for saying exactly what I'm trying to say, but much more eloquently.
Mr. Haverty: most likely to go postal?
T Lynch,
Oh I'm gonna cry - I am totally screwed where I am, your house prices sound great (of course they are probably not), because I am stuck in Silicon Valley - 3b 2bath in a nice school district - $800,000 to $1.2m - how can we ever afford that?
Don't overstretch yourself - it'll be more misery than it's worth.
T Lynch,
From an asking of $299,000 to comparable (if not identical) homes selling for 230K? Whoa! That's a 23% hit. "Do you know how much that hurts a guy?"*
Guys, this is why I'm not a fan of down payments. At least not anymore than is absolutely necessary than to get the deal done. 20% downpayment (which btw virtually no one does any more) foof! Kuh-rispy!
*Vin Diesel's line in the movie "Boiler Room".
Claire, have you considered apprenticing with HaHa, he makes 160K/yr. Spread as much good juju as you can, counter the "it only goes up" crap with facts and data. You should familiarize yourself with the Chewbacca Defense and you'll soon see how ridiculous a 800K house in San Hosebag is.
Cochran: Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Gerald Broflovski: Dammit!
Chef: What?
Gerald: He's using the Chewbacca Defense!
Cochran: Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Huh? Is that a compilment or an insult?
Claire, we do not insult newcomers ;)
Just trying to let you know that there are many of us that feel similiar to you.
I’ve got 20 minutes worth of work left to do for the day, yet 3 hours still left to go.
Ahh the 20/3 rule, my friend works for the fed and it's 20/8
Nice. good times.
bikes2work
2006 Jun 21, 5:55am
Check out http://www.sfgate.com
The top of the page "Elk Grove - Super Hot Spot"
Wonder if the author of that just bought a hous there?
surfer-x
I wasn't really insulted - I just never bother with the :-) signs, and I do not know the chewbacca defense well enough to work it out.
newsfreak,
I couldn't take it and bailed, I was GS-11, but couldn't do nothing all day. I guess I'm not cut out for guberment work. I gave the job to my friend who is perfect for it. I should have stayed. But what is life if not filled with regret?
I've just had an idea - let's get Google and all the other tech firms to relocate;-) Then there'll be more housing available and no one with stock options to bid up the prices (here).......
surfer X,
I don't know how much regret there could be. When I got off active duty military I felt the obligation to make my years "count" by transitioning to the GS side to "salvage" my career. Well I would have been about 5 years shy of a full retirement and they transferred the whole operation to FL. The days felt like an eternity. I still run into some of the folks that worked there and they just look and sound utterly defeated. I get depressed just talking to them.
When we lived in Humboldt, geologists were a special class of people since there are so many faults lines ther I guess. Must have been alot of jobs for the USGS?
Not to mention all that weed, whoops, I meant hemp. You can make rope out of it.
bikes2work,
Here's the CNN version of this same story:
It has the entire list of cities. Here are some bubblicious cities with population declines (these are over 1 year's time):
Boston -1.52%
Salinas -1.17%
DC -0.67%
Cambridge, MA -0.66%
SF -0.51%
Costa Mesa -0.51%
Oakland -0.46%
Glendale -0.42%
Here are some (+) population growth bubblicious cities:
Sacto +0.54%
Sunnyvale +0.89%
San Josebag +1.06%
Mesa, AZ +1.29%
Santa Clara +1.54%
Miami +2.05%
Santa Clarita +2.31%
Roseville +2.76%
Rancho Cucamonga +6.44%
N Las Vegas +11.41%
Elk Grove +11.57%
What's interesting to me is not the areas with growth, which are generally in regions without land restrictions for development (minus the Google sphere you see), but what's interesting is all the bigger bubble cities LOSING population. So how do these "fundamentals" support prices in these places?
Maybe the reason the population growth is declining is because people are cashing in and getting out. I have one friend who sold their fixer-upper in San Jose and bought a brand new (much bigger) house in Arizona, and had some change left over!
Peter P
2006 Jun 21, 6:18am
Sir Peter P, Lord of Crustaceans, is also very fond of ceramic knives.
Actually I prefer steel. :)
LILLL,
You know things are screwed up if your friend thinks it's better in Switzerland. Now there's a place where they truly are not making any more land. The wife and I went to a wedding there about 4 years ago, and I recall checking out some real estate listings in papers for the fun of it, since we were in a ski resort area (Interlaken, Wengen, Murren). We thought prices were expensive back then. Since then the dollar has declined against the Sui Franc last I checked.
Who needs fundamentals when the realtors are still maintaining that the housing market is good.
we made rope,
the invisible rope of the mind.
sshhhh - one of them evangelical bible thumpers might hear you....
As my Dad believes, he almost lost his house a few years back because he doesn’t understand that taking out loans against your home is a bad thing.
Whaaaaat? Now this is bizarre, how can I be your Father if your Father is my Father? Just plain odd. Easily explained if we lived in the South though.
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Here's your chance, have at it. The grumpiness level is rising. Longtime readers probably have sensed the subtle shift in discourse here at Patrick.net. We do have a lot more readers now, and this will only continue to grow as the correction proceeds. But us authors are also increasingly disagreeing over issues that before seemed minor, but now seem more fundamental. In the beginning it was easy: do you believe there is a real-estate bubble or not? But now debate is mired in details of sticky this, hard or soft that, or inflation/deflation the other.
So, take this opportunity to whack-the-authors. Let us know what each of the "on-air personalities" here does that annoys, disturbs or bores you. Is it Randy H's never ending econobabble? Or HARM's fundamentals fundamentalism? Maybe Peter P's metaphysical contrarianism? Surfer-X's descriptive suggestions to select commentors? Maybe even SQT's unshakable reasonableness pisses you off, or astrid's philosophical introspection. Perhaps it's just the daily digressions on sushi and kitchen knives...
If we can't laugh at ourselves then we'll never hope to improve upon the lot we've drawn. Consider it a roast. Help us to see ourselves as you see us. (Obviously, the definition of "Troll" will be a bit different for this thread. Feed surfer-X at your own risk.)
--Randy H