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Cops not following the law is a sign of a failed state. Do not be so happy about this situation.

PockyClipsNow says

Cops not following the law is a sign of a failed state. Do not be so happy about this situation.

She's a 103 years old for crying out loud. And quite frankly, evicting a 103 year-old woman and her 83 year-old daughter strikes me as a far more obvious sign of a failed state than allowing them to stay.

I guess all forclosures are with 103 year old moms and their 83 year of daughters...

thomas.wong1986 says

I guess all forclosures are with 103 year old moms and their 83 year of daughters...

Thom you have a point here but do you not agree that the stay of eviciting was the thing to do here? all i can say for you is that you were born in 86 so I guess you still have a lot of learning to do

Bigsby says

She's a 103 years old for crying out loud. And quite frankly, evicting a 103 year-old woman and her 83 year-old daughter strikes me as a far more obvious sign of a failed state than allowing them to stay.

Completely agree with you. It would be a shame on our nation if we started kicking out old folks to the curb who fallen on hard times.

Indeed, cops should be following the law, but a truly heartwarming story would be if the 103-year-old lady's neighbord pitched in and gave her enough money to make whatever payments were due.

Does her state have reverse mortgages? The Frenchwoman Jeanne Calment infamously participated in one of these and then outlived the person who was supposed to get her house when she died; she made it all the way to 122!

PockyClipsNow says

Cops not following the law is a sign of a failed state. Do not be so happy about this situation.

Not if the state is unjust, such as a Kleptocracy.

Hmm, what if the person living in the house was merely 93 or 83 or 73 or 63 or 53?

I don't think we should be so proud of ourselves that an exception was made. It was made solely because it would be bad publicity to follow the letter of the law.

Sometimes I think the much vaunted American Exceptionalism includes the following:

We will do what is wrong, but we will make an occasional exception if good public relations dictate that we do so. You might get lucky if you are cute, very old, photogenic, have rich parents or belong to some other favored class.

Yes, I am being sarcastic.

At what age should people simply stop paying all bills because they wont be kicked out or have the gas shut off???

I would like to know for my retirement planning.

Interesting no one here is questioning why a 103 year old person would have a mortgage. From another source, it appears the property may belong to her grandson.

The linked article above is very lacking in details.

If she's a renter, do all you landlords here think free rent is appropriate for those 100+ years old?

Yes if you have older parents max out ALL thier debt, take expensive vacations, and dont worry they wont be evicted?

I smell a rat. The chances this lady got this mortgage 20 years ago (at age 90?) is zero.

PockyClipsNow says

Yes if you have older parents max out ALL thier debt, take expensive vacations, and dont worry they wont be evicted?

I smell a rat. The chances this lady got this mortgage 20 years ago (at age 90?) is zero.

Pocky, it's not the age, the ugly truth about our nation is that there is a lot of fraud and abuse of the elderly. These real estate scumbag brokers have been chasing old folks down to give them all sorts of risky loans where they would surely lose their homes in return. It's the entire industry in real estate late night tv. Just find some old folks who fallen on hard times and screw them in a real estate transaction when they are most vulnerable and desperate.

I don't know if that's the case here, but it might be considering how prevalent it is. And if it were up to me, we'd have all these real estate scammers shot or in prison.

Its true that predatory lending is out of control.

We all know why. Because the feds backstop all the loans, no doubt the feds backstopped this one.

If a lender had 'thier own money' in the game what are the chances a 103 yo woman could get a mortgage? zero. Thus zero fraud and zero foreclosures.

What we have now is government subsidized/sponsored predatory lending. Then the cops show up to foreclose and the face of what we have become as a country is too horrible to execute the law. Not exactly concentration camps, just fraud/corruption at every level like CCCP. This is not changing in our lives, its too big. The economy is largely based on fraud now?

Here's what I was able to pull from Fulton County Board of Assessors:
03-MAR-09 $17,000 DEUTSCHE BANK NATIONAL TRUST COMPANY TR MUHAMMAD ALI S
15-NOV-02 $129,500 MUHAMMAD ALI S CORNELIUS KATHELYN
13-JUN-86 $20,363

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, looks like I lost the pro-per-tee...

Remember when the phrase 'I mortgaged the house' meant you did a bad thing and were screwed?

MAYBE THOSE DAYS ARE BACK?!

PockyClipsNow says

Remember when the phrase 'I mortgaged the house' meant you did a bad thing and were screwed?

You mean like in Monopoly?

JodyChunder says

Thom you have a point here but do you not agree that the stay of eviciting was the thing to do here? all i can say for you is that you were born in 86 so I guess you still have a lot of learning to do

I am much much older than you think born decades before 1986. Such events are actually not common. The press however does find the obsure events to publish. Somethings dont change.

"Family members said they had enough money to pay the loan, but were having a difficult time getting Chase to accept a payment."

you an old turd like me then ; D. sorry to assume. you are rite about our press. garbage

PockyClipsNow says

Yes if you have older parents max out ALL thier debt, take expensive vacations, and dont worry they wont be evicted?

I smell a rat. The chances this lady got this mortgage 20 years ago (at age 90?) is zero.

No, she got the loan at age 97. And a heloc too, from BOA. Came with 5lbs of prunecake.

The cops and moving company did the bank a huge favor. If they had kicked the old lady out, it would make the bank look really, really bad. That bad publicity would cost more than writing off that piece of crap house she lives in. And the 103-year-old woman looks like she'd die if the cops tried to move her out of the house. And that would make everyone look real bad.

No, the bank got lucky on this on. The bureaucrats probably had no idea the eviction request they submitted was addressed to a decrypted 103-year-old. They are probably letting off a huge collective sigh of relief.

However, news articles/videos like this are exactly the reason I have no respect for the news media today. Hello, what exactly is the story? Why did this 103-year-old have a mortgage to pay off? She owned the house for 53 years.

I can only assume a reverse mortgage or home equity loan was taken out in order to pay for her medical expenses. But I'm not sure the woman is still competent to make such a decision herself. So, I'd have to further guess that her daughter is acting in power of attorney and got the loan.

The thing is, I shouldn't have to make all these assumptions. The news report should be more thorough. The report should tell us why the house was in legal dispute for years. We know nothing about the case itself other than the fact that the residents are old.

By the way: mortgage literally means "death pact", and in this case, you know that's going to be true.

The lady's lucky that this asshole didn't serve the eviction notice.

fat boys with ASTHMA! they gotta work some place

Once you hit 100 you should be "released" from the community. I think that's a fair leeway given that most sci-fi societies release people when they can't work anymore.

Anyways, rules are rules, regardless of your age or other conditions.

Yes the REAL STORY SHOULD READ:

103 yo woman defrauded by her children who stole her house(equity) (elder abuse story). But the lame media put it on the poor government officials to make them look bad (by government officials I am talking about banksters)