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dhmartens says

"The Chickens are Gay"

The Hypocrisy of all this is the "Chickens are Gay", and eating them will make you gay. 1) The chickens are raised in cages and get zero conjugal visits with roosters, 2) New evidence shows people who eat broccoli have broccoli DNA in their blood stream. Therefore chicken eaters are absorbing the DNA of Gay Chickens.

Yeah but they still can't marry.

YesYNot says

In America, might doesn't make right. Money makes right.

Money is a type of might, no?

YesYNot says

Polygamy is irrelevant.

Why do you discriminate against polygamists? After all, you just said

YesYNot says

"Not capable of producing children" is not an argument to prevent people from getting married.

Why limit marriage to two people? Why do you hate polygamists? Why do you not support polygamist rights? Why are you against social progress?

No one is advocating for 'change for the sake of change.'

All of the changes I mentioned are generally agreed on as necessary. As we evolve as a society, new norms are formed as our understanding of the world around us changes.
The tide is changing on gay rights due to newer understandings of the number of people who are gay, that it is not a psychological disorder to be cured, etc. There is also a shift in the balance of power from a particular religion to a more secular approach. We are still clearly dominated by Christian beliefs, but leaders no longer have to toe the Christian line on every issue.
Our society is not looking any more favorably on bestiality, polygamy, or any other red herring that religious conservatives hold out their as traps on the 'slippery slope.' These are silly rhetorical crap arguments held onto by people who for the most part think that masturbation and contraception are sins.

YesYNot says

A Chick-Fil-A sandwich is a fried piece of chicken Wrong, it's pressure cooked

with a small wilted piece of lettuce, not in my experience

some mayo, no mayo, you obviously can't read or just make shit up as you go along

a bit of pickle, and a white bun. Eating too much of this will not be good for your health.

eating too much of anything is not good for your health. Pointless statement.

It has almost a days worth of sodium, protein, and fat, while giving about 5% of a days fiber, 20% of a days calories, and negligible amounts of vitamins and minerals.

Total Bullshit, as the recommended intake for the items you list are based on a persons size, weight, sex, pregnancy status, overall health, to name a few....

Maybe we should all just play it safe and stop eating at Chick-Fil-A.

go ahead! More for me...

freak80 says

Money is a type of might, no?

No. It's speech. The pen is mightier than the sword. Oh crap you are right.

Polygamy is not progress in the sense that it is agreed by current social norms for a variety of reasons that polygamy is not OK.

freak80 says

For example, I am a polygamist. Why does the government say I cannot marry more than one person? Why the "discrimination" against me?

*Ehem* yes an "example", we are talking hypothetically here right? ;-)

Polygamy is a separate issue with its own problems. In theory I think that consenting adults should be able to engage in polygamy if they want. If there were a movement to legalize polygamy I would support it.

However...

freak80 says

Why the "discrimination" against me?

Generally in the US the discrimination against polygamists has not been about marriage rights, but other...issues...

Probably the biggest problem is that the group that currently would push for legalization also marries 12 year olds to 60 year old men. Not the type of people that inspire others to rally to their cause.

There are also a host of other issues surrounding polygamy that are not present in gay marrage (primarily surrounding women's rights), but that is probably a conversation for another thread.

But, who knows? Maybe if Romney becomes president the LDS mormons will figure that they have enough support to bring back "the doctrine of plural marriage" as Joseph Smith put it.

xrpb,

It's pressure cooked in refined peanut oil. That's still fried.
It doesn't come with any mayo, so I was wrong. Interesting enough it has both oil, and eggs, so it may as well have mayo.

Eating too much of anything will be bad for you. Eating a serving of carrots everyday is not too much. With the chick-fil-a sandwich, one serving a day is too much. Please eat up. Take the whole family.

The percent of total calories, protein, fat and nutrients are based on average recommended daily allowances. Anyone with an IQ over about 60 probably understands that. Anyone who knows how to read understand that is why I used the word 'about.'

YesYNot says

xrpb11a says

Fail.

http://www.cfarestaurant.com/pleasantgrove/Menu2-Detail#pid=ChickfilA-Chicken-Sandwich#?details=nutrition

I fail to see how this refutes anything. It is where I got the data from. Sodium is 1400 mg. You should get 1500 to 2000. Protein is 30 g. You need 30-60 based on most recommendations around the world. The USDA says 100 to 160, but their biggest mission is to support agriculture. They have 2 to 15% of a few minerals (basically negligible). Fat is 16g * 9 = 144 calories. That is about 8% of the a days worth of calories. 8 to 10% is plenty of fat. Some people think that 30% is good, but most people are fat and have heart disease in middle age.

What the hell is this mess? Did you write this post with a crayon?

YesYNot says

xrpb,

It's pressure cooked in refined peanut oil. That's still fried. Wrong again. It's 'pressure fried', which is different than "fried"

It doesn't come with any mayo, so I was wrong. Interesting enough it has both oil, and eggs, so it may as well have mayo.

so now you want to redefine 'mayo' as well as 'marriage'...well, that's on topic with the thread...

Eating too much of anything will be bad for you. Eating a serving of carrots everyday is not too much. a 'serving' of anything is not considered 'eating too much'. Case Closed.

With the chick-fil-a sandwich, one serving a day is too much. Please eat up. Take the whole family. Ok.

The percent of total calories, protein, fat and nutrients are based on average recommended daily allowances. Anyone with an IQ over about 60 probably understands that. anyone with an IQ over 60 would realize that nutrition guidelines are specifically based on size/weight/sex. ...

Can someone please explain, why both spouses don't die of heart disease, when they both clearly shared the same diet for 50-60 years?

TO much of anything is bad for you this is true, but granola eaters are as much at risk of suffering a heart attack as anyone that ate bacon once a week all their life.

YesYNot says

As we evolve as a society, new norms are formed as our understanding of the world around us changes.

That statement could be used to support *any* cause.
Who's norms? Who's understanding of the world? Yours? Mine?

YesYNot says

The tide is changing on gay rights due to newer understandings of the number of people who are gay

The "might makes right" argument again. At least you're consistent. "If a large number of people are doing X, then X is ok!"

YesYNot says

Our society is not looking any more favorably on bestiality, polygamy

Why not? Isn't our society "evolving"? What exactly is "our society"? It seems pretty divided right now.

So answer my question:

Why should the definition of marriage be limited to two people? Or, since you brought it up, why should it be limited to one species?

freak80 says

Or, since you brought it up, why should it be limited to one species?

Marriage should be limited to consenting adults. Animals can not consent.

freak80 says

Why should the definition of marriage be limited to two people?

Good question it probably should not, but once again polygamy raises a host of other issues that are not comparable to gay marriage.

zzyzzx says

If the homeowner isn't insulted by your offer...you didn't bid low enough!!!

Since Romney pledged to "Be better than Ted Kennedy on Gay rights", these fat ignorant Americans will indeed be eating fast food on Election day.

freak80 says

Why should the definition of marriage be limited to two people?

Got any reasons not, yourself?

leoj707 says

Good question it probably should not

Hey, at least you're honest.

Why should Judaism be limited to Jews, people that have been Bat Mitzvah for that matter?

Why can't a Pig farmer, just go down to the synagogue and apply to be Jewish?

lostand confused says

These folks must miss the old days when you could proudly discriminate, hang people deemed less human and do all sorts of nasty things and be proud of it.

Are you suggesting that wanting to preserve the traditional definition of marriage is equivalent to hangings? Please, make that case!

Why is it LIBERALS can NOT resist the temptation to demean, disparage, insult, ridicule, slander, use degrading sexual innuendo, swear, curse and use undefined slogans when posting?

Why is that type of behavior virtually non existent from the conservative/libertarian side???

Surveys suggest the more liberal a person is the more miserable they are. Yup, its always someone else's fault, its "The Man", the rich, the conservatives, the successful, Big Pharma, Big Oil, business owners, etc.

Some of you are very liberal and are obviously very miserable. It manifests itself in your posts...hope you get better soon.

Todays book recommendation: Liberty and Tyranny - Mark Levin

CaptainShuddup says

Can someone please explain, why both spouses don't die of heart disease, when they both clearly shared the same diet for 50-60 years?

TO much of anything is bad for you this is true, but granola eaters are as much at risk of suffering a heart attack as anyone that ate bacon once a week all their life.

That's silly.

Wouldn't the granola eater be at much greater risk of suffering a heart attack, then the bacon eater?

how can eating bacon cause a heart attack?

How do I know when i ve crossed the just enough bacon threshold, and eaten too much? Is the 1/2 lb I eat for breakfast everyday, too much?

What about the lb of back fat I'm grabbing for lunch from down at the puerto rican food cart?

Honest Abe says

Why is it LIBERALS can NOT resist the temptation to demean, disparage, insult, ridicule, slander, use degrading sexual innuendo, swear, curse and use undefined slogans when posting?

Why is that type of behavior virtually non existent from the conservative/libertarian side???

Haha, funny and I suppose this is some of the virtually non-existent conservative insulting of liberals...

Honest Abe says

...the more liberal a person is the more miserable they are...

Thanks for making it easy! I did not even have to look at another post to find the pertinent quote.

CaptainShuddup says

Why should Judaism be limited to Jews, people that have been Bat Mitzvah for that matter?

Why can't a Pig farmer, just go down to the synagogue and apply to be Jewish?

They don't want your type coming along and messing up the gene pool, gotta keep the race pure

You're just full of piss and vinegar anyways

Maybe if the pig farmer grew his sideburns out long to a perm, and stopped drinking tap water, he could go acidic jew. That is, so long as he had the priest there to pray for and bless that succulent hog, just as he was about to slaughter it

Its no wonder anyone would eat anything not Kosher'd. I mean, imagine the unholy acts that bag of pretzels that doesn't have the circled K on them, wreaks havoc on your guts. You need a good rabbi to pray for your flour and sodium, as it bakes

errc says

What about the lb of back fat I'm grabbing for lunch from down at the puerto rican food cart?

Yeah what about it...

Thanks now I'm hungry!

Ate there, loved it (I rarely eat fast food), but I support free speech. I also support free enterprise, you don't want to eat there (for whatever reason) then don't eat there. I don't spend my money at JC Pennys, Starbucks or Target because I disagree with their support of gay marriage, but it's free speech and free enterprise.

There's always Boy George house of Sausage and Pickle emporium.

This is what you are going to see on Friday at Chic-fil-a:

P N Dr Lo R says

Even if marriage didn't have a moral or religious context, the fact that it takes a man and woman to produce children, not two women or two men, should settle the argument.

thats the whole point in support of marriage between man and women..accepted by all cultures today and through out history.. it is the legit sons and daughters who carry your name and their children... the legit blood line! If your gay, you pretty much kill off the family name and lineage..

A name is just a name. You want a legacy you start a corporation and put your name on it.

Vicente says

I used to like Chik-Fil-A, one of my favorite airport choices in a hurry. Not again until the old man is dead and buried.

Dont worry, 5 people have stepped up to replace your spot in line.

CaptainShuddup says

Chick Fil A isn't a anti gay company.

they financially support anti-gay groups. I don't care if they're christian. if I ate there the most annoyed I'd be with their christianity is that they're closed on sunday.

however, once they start funding political groups that push an agenda they've welcomed this kind of response from people. you want to play in politics don't be a whiny little baby when people start playing politics in return.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/01/chick-fil-appreciation-day-brings-out-supporters-more-protestors/

People all across America are "voting" with their wallets and their feet. It looks like the majority of normal Americans don't believe in changing the meaning of words that have been around for hundreds (thousands?) of years.

Some of my best friends are gay, and I enjoy both Chick-Fil-A as well as Ben & Jerry's ice cream.

Abe

BTW, your president had the same stance as Don Cathy until a month or so ago...until it "evolved" hahaha.

Now black church leaders are naturally upset with obamas evolved stance and will not stand with or support him for re-election.

obama is anti-church, anti-family, anti-business, anti-success, anti-presonal responsibility. Well done, if you're a commie.

xrpb11a says

so now you want to redefine 'mayo' as well as 'marriage'...well, that's on topic with the thread...

If one were to construct an amendment to the Constitution based on a literal reading of the Bible it might well contain the following stipulations:

1. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)

2. Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines, in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

3. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)

4. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)

5. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)

6. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe, and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

*****

You see, I realized the hypocrisy of the bible when I was in grade school. I have no problems with people having their own faith, but in 20 years or maybe less... The history books will probably look back on this period the same as de-segregation and slavery issues of the past. Remember seeing WHITES ONLY water fountains in history books or NO COLOREDS signs outside stores and finding it so odd!?

I think Anti-Gay Marriage advocates will be looked back upon with derision for those holding the GOD HATES QUEERS and GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND STEVE signs. Future generations will look at you and laugh.

BoomAndBustCycle says

1. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)

I guess this answers the polygamy question.

I am sure that Romney would happily endorse your proposed amendment.

Honest Abe says

Now black church leaders are naturally upset with obamas evolved stance and will not stand with or support him for re-election.

obama is anti-church, anti-family, anti-business, anti-success, anti-presonal responsibility. Well done, if you're a commie.

How can you believe ANY of this? You really think that Black church leaders won't support Obama in 2012?

Or that Obama, one of only a handful of sitting Presidents to preside over such a rapid increase in the DJIA is anti-business? Turn off your AM radio...it is miring you in partisan blindness.

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2012/01/dow_up_more_than_50_percent_si.html

Vicente says

I used to like Chik-Fil-A, one of my favorite airport choices in a hurry. Not again until the old man is dead and buried.

Wow. You want him dead.

That's not a whole lot better than the stuff the "God Hates Fags" crowd says.

I've always believed there was just as much "hate" on the far-left as there is on the far-right.

freak80 says

Vicente says

I used to like Chik-Fil-A, one of my favorite airport choices in a hurry. Not again until the old man is dead and buried.

Wow. You want him dead.

That's not a whole lot better than the stuff the "God Hates Fags" crowd says.

I've always believed there was just as much "hate" on the far-left as there is on the far-right.

I'm sure he meant, "dies his natural death". He didn't wish for him to be smote.

It's like Stalin opened a poultry fast food chain in here..

People are entitled to their opinions. I will not hesitate to do business with someone I hate if it makes business sense.

Peter P says

People are entitled to their opinions. I will not hesitate to do business with someone I hate if it makes business sense.

Weird. That's exactly what Prescott Bush said when he did business with the Nazis!

the real tragedy, is that you people eat the kind of crap in the first place

well, at least with AHA, now we're all going to have to pay for the crappy western diet, together.

How does that shit even constitute food?

a headless, limbless, genetically modified 'chicken' breast on two big, doughy pieces of nutrition-less bread. I guess it beats the wet cardboard with catsup and dehydrated onions on a 3 piece sesame roll, with fried potatoes and soda pop, across the way. sigh

we have people unknowingly eating themselves to death, their subconscious flooded with advertisements for these "fast food restaurants", and the best problem we can think to bitch about is the societal label we want to accept for same sex relationships. And we wonder why the world is so fucked